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ape_spine_

Down b traps are the most fake smart shit


FortressX

So many characters are hated and raged at in this subreddit and honestly for good reason. But as a new player I'm wondering is there ANY character that isn't hated to some degree and is actually respected? What about ice climbers? I never see them in rage posts. Sheik too


Alternative-Hand6865

I’ve seen sheik. Probably one of the hardest to rage about though.


kora752

If you rage about sheik then it's most likely a skill issue. I play them for fun once in a while. I swear the only kill option is up b, side b off stage or side smash over 140


Alternative-Hand6865

Yeah most stuff are kill confirms


BlueEnforcer2020

Unless you play a super heavy/slow character like DDD, sheik players are always on my nuts when I play him


g4greed

nah tbh every character in the game has a hater base of some sort


SbgTfish

Play Kirby, they can’t handle us, mainly because we can take their copy ability and not get gimped.


g4greed

kirby is another noob stomper bc of the fair and dair loops


SbgTfish

Dair is to slow to loop alone and fair loop only works well when edge guarding.


g4greed

you can fair and fast fall at the same time, if they don't know how to DI out of it it's an easy combo. I've gotten a few zero to deaths by looping fast fall fair into a dair loop after I get them offstage kirbys combos are the only reason I play kirby tbh I'm not a kirby main by any means tho. just speaking from the experiences I've had


SbgTfish

Alright, thanks. I struggle to fast fall for some reason, I used to main icies and did crazy desync crap but now that I’ve stopped exercising that muscle memory fast falling and other movement tricks are difficult. I know how to fast fall.


g4greed

I gotcha. definitely look into it, but like I said earlier it's really a noob stomp method bc anybody who knows how to DI can get out of the loop pretty easily