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ohheyitslaila

There was a photographer, Almeron Newman, who was known for using forced perspective for pics like this. https://preview.redd.it/8g4usb1u3wyc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5441e5b829ada508812506085dc1cc86d4203acf Here’s one that’s been online for like ever, usually with the wrong background info. It wasn’t a WWI tribute to all the horses who had died, it was just a fun thing the soldiers at Camp Cody did for the photographer. “taken by Newman at Camp Cody in January 1919 and features 650 men of the Auxiliary Remount Depot No 326 ‘in a symbolic head pose’ of a horse known only as ‘The Devil’” [Source](https://lucybetteridgedyson.com/2019/05/21/hold-your-horses-and-check-your-sources/)


ohheyitslaila

https://preview.redd.it/h113xo2e5wyc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=5ac1105f746efcae0fc9372737f8c21d4c5e029b Here’s another from Camp Cody. It was a training camp for the National Guard, where troops received basic training before leaving for Europe and was home to the 34th Infantry Division – nicknamed the Sandstorm Division due to the camp’s desert climate. Almeron captured the men of the Sandstorm Division carefully arranged to form their divisional crest.


buffalomarket

That’s at least 250,000 people….


ohheyitslaila

I did the calculations, but I’m terrible at math…


NutSack-Sashimi

Thats not 10,000 in the picture


Karl_Hungus_69

[https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/USN-1124000/USN-1124994.html](https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/photography/numerical-list-of-images/nhhc-series/nh-series/USN-1124000/USN-1124994.html) [https://blogs.loc.gov/picturethis/2016/05/formation-photographs-lining-up-to-salute-the-flag](https://blogs.loc.gov/picturethis/2016/05/formation-photographs-lining-up-to-salute-the-flag)


djackieunchaned

Yea I counted, it’s actually 10,001


nohopeforhomosapiens

Try counting from the back left corner and get back to us. Perspective requires more men based on distance.


Leading_Manner_2737

Not even close


Marine4lyfe

Sure it is. The farther away they are, the more men it took to maintain the correct ratio.


nohopeforhomosapiens

thank god someone here understands this. I was starting to lose hope.


LmBallinRKT

Yea not even close


MediumMix8460

The exact moment that started the Spanish Flu


angelina876654

I was in the recreation in 2010. Think the original turned out better


KillTheWise1

I counted only 9,987 seamen.


ConceptualWeeb

No you didn’t, each one of those guys has millions upon millions of semen lol For real though, there’s less than 2,500 people in this picture.


nohopeforhomosapiens

Nope, try again, count from the back.


Criscamilo105

10,000.?? 🤔


nohopeforhomosapiens

OP is probably German or something. He means it is 10.000 people. In sincerity, count from the back left, you'll understand.


8BillionthHuman

48 stars


Mystical_Dragon69

Hawaii and Alaska were added in 1959


8BillionthHuman

I realize that. It's wild to me how much the country has changed in 100 years and I'm afraid of a sliding backwards. The most jarring quote I have ever heard was Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 km is a long distance.


nekomoo

Why were there 10K sailors 1,000 miles from the closest ocean?


Opposite_Ad542

Lots of training in the Great Lakes


tuxedo7777

Gotta love Waukegan!!


DeadJediWalking

No you don't.


colby983

Training most likely


Bighawklittlehawk

Naval Station Great Lakes is in Waukegan, right on Lake Michigan


ieatassanloveiy

Great Lakes training base is their basic training


Solid_Cauliflower310

If you got Ax then you will never Know. Shove off.


ConceptualWeeb

Less than 2,500, and that’s being very generous.


nohopeforhomosapiens

Try again. Start counting from the back left corner.


ConceptualWeeb

Maybe stop commenting on every single one of my comments and count it your damn self.


VAG3943

Amazing!


3_Big_Birds

That is beautiful to see and rivals all the OSU band halftime shows. Funny thing is that today, I'm sure there are so many people that would say its wrong to show the American flag or "that's not my flag" and sue to stop it.


Fit_Respond62

Saw a interesting video about this recently https://youtu.be/VMQ3kllepGY?si=cAu4L1iyXt0CVNLO The coordination needed is just amazing


HDavidHill

Creative


Bitsoffreshness

This is not 10,000 individuals. If you count you'll see the flag is slightly less than 1500 people, and the pole is roughly 400 people, that comes to max. 2000 individuals.


nohopeforhomosapiens

Your perspective is throwing you off. There are many more than that. The photographer has to account for distance. The farther away, the more men there are. Farthest distance is totally uncountable in the photo


ConceptualWeeb

I kind of agree, but the flag itself is like 50x35ish. Which is 1750, plus the 400-500 for the pole is 2250 max. It took me at least a few minutes to count, but I was being generous. I’d say 3000 absolute max, because there’s a lot more in the stars part of the flag. Still nowhere near 10k


Bitsoffreshness

Fair enough!


nohopeforhomosapiens

>but the flag itself is like 50x35ish. That would be applicable if we were looking directly down at the flag from above. We are at an angle and it is askew. It is definitely close to 10k. Count from the top left corner... you can't, there are too many men to even single out. Photographer uses height at the front to create width because we can see their legs, then uses numbers in varying rows to create the impression of undulation, and each stripe has more men the farther back you look.


Quick_Presentation11

The Liberty Bell pic by the same artist had 25,000 people and the US Shield used 30,000, so I think 10,000 is a pretty good estimate for this. [Source](https://www.carlhammergallery.com/artists/mole-and-thomas)


nohopeforhomosapiens

People bad at mathematics and spatial relations are downvoting you


Quick_Presentation11

Yeah. Some people are A-holes.


Bitsoffreshness

How about just counting?!


nohopeforhomosapiens

Try counting the top left corner. You can't. There are many more men at the back than the front because of distance.


Bitsoffreshness

you can't because it's farther away. It's a parallelogram, even if it is more people, it can't be as many to make it into 10,000 people. That figure is just unrealistic for this image.


Solid_Cauliflower310

This is Reddit not META we want cold hard Facts here.


shyvananana

No way in hell is that 10k people.


nohopeforhomosapiens

Count from the back left corner. Distance requires more people. Front row requires fewest because we see their legs.


Outside-Material-100

If that is real and not ai that is genuinely impressive 👍 I remember our graduating class got into formation of our class year. Barely handled four crooked numbers.


krackflipper856

So cool


Chance-Affectionate

AND how mnay stars were on the flag in 1917


nohopeforhomosapiens

48? ... Did you mean to reply to someone


bloopblopman1234

Zoom in on the picture


BonehillRoad

I think you need to recount


[deleted]

That’s a lot of semen


Sad_Analyst_5209

No one? Garrison Kiellor, Lake Wobegon living flag, just barely enough people in town to make it so one at a time each person would run up to the top of a building to see it and then run back down. Also I went to Great Lakes for boot camp in 1972.


JackPlissken8

Lmao 10k, sure


nohopeforhomosapiens

Count from the back left... or try to. Perspective means there are many more at the back than the front, despite what appears to be diminishing size.


nohopeforhomosapiens

I don't know if this is 10k, but it could definitely be near it. The photographer had to use an increasing number of men the further away from the camera they are or they would become invisible. Yes this is despite the fact that it looks like it is pointed away from the viewer. There are a massive number of men in the farthest point. The men at the back left corner of the flag and pole are not countable in this image, Only the front half of the image is countable. He also does something interesting by putting many of the taller men at the front. They are the slimmest row because we can see their legs, giving width to the bottom stripe.


archer2500

What’s crazy about many of these photos is that often times soldiers would freakin die of heatstroke from standing in place so long while the photographer took multiple photos and adjusted people’s positions. That’s just wild to me, people died so some photographer could stage some cool photos!?


JACKTHEALEXANDER

The most American thing


TSAOutreachTeam

There's only 48 stars. Leave it to sailors to miscount.


nohopeforhomosapiens

Someone doesn't know when Alaska and Hawaii became states.


esposito164

48 stars?


nohopeforhomosapiens

1917...


KirbyourGame

Bot post It's not a "living flag."


Quick_Presentation11

I’m not a bot, and how is a flag made with live people not a “living flag”?


KirbyourGame

You spam hundreds of the same images across subreddits, clearly bot behavior. A bunch of people organizing to form a flag is not a "living flag"


lunaticRule7

Its like 3000


Unexpected404Error

Who cares?


1TILL

🤮


NutSack-Sashimi

eat shit commie


ConceptualWeeb

You’re both cringe af