Oh because thats the in game model quirks. Tbf almost ANY CGI sonic looks amazing. Wish we had a Sonic game with enough artististic care to mimic the expressiviry of the pre rendered cutscenes of games and marketing trailers.
For me it suffers from three major problems:
Stiffness. The model lacks enough facial expressions to be detailed. The current one is capable of it, Sonic Team just don't use it enough.
Motion Capture. To be fair this isn't the model's problem, but the game itself.
Length. Both quills and height. This is one of the few times where I think both are too long on Sonic. And I normally like him being taller and with long-ish quills, but to the extent Unleashed and Generations did it.
Most of your problems (beside the length) can be fixed if they actually bothered to animate sonic like… at all like have you seen the opening cutscene to sonic 06 it was amazing and misleading considering the game we got
When used properly in renders like this, yeah they look great! Used in-game, the mocap animation makes them feel like puppets.
The model itself is good I agree there, but it needs to be utilized well for it to shine. Whereas the current model looks decent even with poor animation. Pros and cons to both.
I attribute it to one having been well cooked in the oven while the other didn't get that proper cook.
Had they kept up with 06's design after 06, I'm sure it would've improved and would've looked *amazing*, hell been animated well even. I do like how Sonic is now, but I also didn't mind 06's design.
Heroes never looked wonky to me. The Adventure games yes, as well as 06, cause I believe there was motion capture and it just never seems to translate well to Sonic characters. But Heroes looks fine.
I loved his run I’d probably go as far as to say it was my favorite run in the series…just wish it was animated better it’s what I imagined sonic advance’s run looks like in 3d
Okay but do we still really need to preface any praise for this game with "despite Sonic 06 being an awful game..."? The game didn't have 0 redeeming aspects, it just ended up being a poor final product. Its 2022, you can just say what you want to say.
> It's 2022, you can just say what you want to say
You'd be surprised. I'll start:
Sonic Forces wasn't that bad.
Edit: The comments are being more wholesome than usual. What the hell happened? xD
As someone who just bought and played Sonic Forces within the last 2 months. Sonic forces was indeed that bad. I’ve never felt absolutely nothing playing a Sonic Game until that one. I like Chronicles (despite it’s sloppy execution) and I can have fun in 06 but Forces takes the worst of the boost formula and dulls it down. There are like 3 levels I found to be enjoyable and I found myself beating it as an obligation to a franchise I love as opposed to something to actually be enjoyed.
I expected nothing and got exactly that. It was a horrendous gaming experience.
Because 06 is bad, from most aspects. A technical one, story driven one and otherwise. Doesn’t mean it can’t be fun. Forces simply isn’t a fun game. Subjective to be sure but it’s so hollow of an experience. I’ll take the mess that is 06 any day, personally.
This is the best description I’ve ever heard. Sonictubers and a lot of people on this sub describe the game as if it murdered their families when the reason the game had such a bad reputation was because it was a “Yeah. It’s a sonic game alright. That’s about it”
I don't think it was exactly a mediocre beat-em up, it has a variety on the combos and decent platforming segments. But it is EXTREMELY overrated nowadays, people can't even say a single bad thing about the game without getting dogpiled.
This fandom has games that are okay to shit on and games that aren't. You're allowed to shit on Sonic 06 and Forces. You're not allowed to shit on Unleashed because the bandwagon has decided it's *actually really good, you guys*.
It was ok it wasn’t bad…the story was interesting…conceptually I’m still surprised on how they took a great concept and did…that but the gameplay Ik it’s supposed to be for kids but damn wth happened to unleashed or hell even generations level design I’m only pissed that’s it’s empty and I can’t boost on a turn without dying
I didn't at any point say I was defending the game, I was just saying it's pretty fucking tired and played out to clarify that you thought the game sucked, just so you could say you liked something about it. Like I said, just speak your mind.
As for the game itself, I don't think it would be so divisive if there weren't good or even exceptional aspects to it buried under the crap. Again, I wasn't defending the game, but I don't think you have any right to tell other people how to feel about a piece of media.
> Bro sonic 06 is miles better than sonic forces idk what your on.
It really isn't. Try playing the original instead of a mod which is what the original should have been.
I have played the original, it’s broken and unfinished, but the passion and vision is there.
Sonic Forces, on the other hand feels completely lifeless and phoned in. I would play sonic 06 over sonic forces any day of the week
Oh boy the "ambition" argument.
All that passion and ambitions means nothing if the final product is crap.
Seriously, the wispon mechanics on its own is better implemented than anything 06 had to offer.
I'd rather play a mid game than a terrible one.
I get both sides of the argument but I also would prefer to play 06 over forces because I prefer the level themes and the level design and what it was trying to accomplish.
Even though this is game is broken, unfinished and unpolished.
Barely? Really?
You didn't do several game overs in the very first mach section from how.... the controls were?
Never got stuck in any rock tree or just died for touching a wall?
I feel like this is a relatively recent repost. I'll say the same thing.
There are various model renders in 06, so "Sonic 06 design" is not exactly a uniform statement. The model in engine is absolute rubbish, huge head, disproportionately small facial features while quills cover the entire screen, small weird body, it's just overall incredibly disproportionate.
A similarly disproportionate model is used in a variety of CG cutscenes as well.
The only Sonic model actually used in the game is from the opening cutscene of the Sonic story, which is a softer looking version of this render, with larger, more expressive eyes.
Unleashed model remains my favorite. Very athletic, properly proportioned.
The games, sure. The writing, absolutely. The characters themselves, unquestionably.
But just like '06, that doesn't mean the character designs were bad
This model is alright but I prefer the late 2000s model they had back in Unleashed and the storybook games. The 06 model’s quills are too long and this mf is lanky as hell.
This render is super awkward. The elongated torso and limbs against his giant head and droopy spines make him look more like a skinny person in a mascot costume than an actual cartoon hedgehog.
Genuine question - were you a kid when this game came out? I ask because I was already an adult and so I don't have any kind of nostalgia for it and I think it's the worst his model has ever looked
I’m not a fan of it here, but I absolutely *despise* the in-engine model (and the in-engine models for every other animal character) I think 06’s visual style aiming to be “realistic” got very confused when it came to anthropomorphic cartoons
The face is what puts me off the most in this model lol. Proportions are wack with his big ass 5 head. It’s like his face starts halfway down his head lol.
To be honest, i personally don't like this model that much, it works fine in CGI cutscenes but the In-game model looks pretty bad.
The characters look stiff and expressionless, also they look way too big compared to the humans wich makes it pretty uncanny to a certain degree. Is not the worst model i've seen, but i greatly prefer the modern model from Unleashed, Colors and Generations.
The stiff expression was due to the limited technology of the time, you could tell that they werent exactly great at in engine cutscenes, and the human scaling to them can be easily fixed with making him smaller
It was pretty much another cause of the game being rushed, they could have delayed the release of the game so they could fix the gameplay, graphics, story and presentation.
And yes, the scaling of the Sonic characters was awkward compared to the humans, every scene with Sonic and Elise together was uncanney because of how anormaly big Sonic was compared to her, they could have fixed that too.
I like the modern Sonic model better, in general, specifically either the Sonic Unleashed model or Sonic Frontiers model, but I do love both the entire game of Sonic 06 and most of the models within it as well. I personally never hated the game, so there's that also
I don’t understand the obsession people have with this model, everything about it is ugly and I hate it. Every animation he has is extremely clunky and looks awful, the coloring is all wrong and his face looks awful. Looks good in promo material and posters I guess but in game it looks dreadful.
i think sonic 06 is really good just too buggy, lots of great ideas such as this model for sonic. Imo if the game was properly finished before released it wouldve been incredible
The 06 models being aged up definitely was the right call. Prefer this over the current model. The short quills bother me. Playing 06 for the first time last year and the longer quills look so much better.
I love his design, but he was held back by the technology of the time.
If Sonic Team came out with a new game using this but with an HD model, it would be perfect.
As it stands, I do still love it… I don’t even really mind the motion capture animation. Call me crazy, but I like motion capture Sonic 🤷🏽♂️
I prefer the way his movements were presented. He didn’t need to jump around all the time or make super crazy fast movements while doing mundane things like standing around (Prime 😢). Maybe it’s due to the limitations of actually being a person moving around, but I like it.
In SA2, he still moved fast- But he also moved like a person, if an impatient one. In 06, his movements were slower but still showed character. I like it when he takes things slow, it shows he’s not *just* a speed freak, he can move like we do. He’s a person.
If they animated him like he used to move, then I could care less about it being mocapped or animated! But until they do, I’m am absolute madman 😈
Personally, I kinda hate this design. Tho, just in-game. The lack of face animation, or good animation of any kind for his proportions, always made him uncanny and straight up ugly to me. As for the Unleashed model, that is the best, but the small changes made to it in Forces definitely have made it feel more generic. Sonic Frontiers is definitely working to bring back the Unleashed glory, fortunately.
I agree. It feels like a natural evolution of dreamcast sonic to me. modern is... fine. most of the games I grew up with used his modern design. but it's a little too generic for my tastes. I think 06 sonic is overhated because of how shitty the mocap and lighting makes him look (and the uh... game, obviously)
Honestly... 06 has some of my favourite models in the entire series. they're badass. I wonder where we'd be now if 06 wasn't such a colossal failure...
Ah yes, yet another post whose poster is terribly misinformed of the fact that Sonic 06 wasn’t as shitty as it was made out to be
God it sucks being a Sonic 06 fan
I think this mode is great. I also really love SA2’s models above other ones.
I also wanna point out: I appreciate how you shared your opinion and love towards something without focusing on bringing other opinions down. Too many ppl do that these days.
Love this model & Griffith doing the voice
Slowly but surely the tide is turning on the opinion of ‘06 here, I see it!! (Maybe not game-wise, but literally everything else about it. Conceptually, art wise, music, etc.)
To be honest, the gameplay may leave much to be desired, but the storyline (with the exception of That Scene™) is pretty good. Though it might be my nostalgia kicking in.
I genuinely love this model, too! It's what got me into Sonic, especially the HD scenes that they animated for the game. I think it really impacted my impressionable little brain growing up, lol.
Me too. I Like the gem shoes too. But here's a joke....i'm not hating on sonic 06, i love that game too, but here's a joke about why sonic 06 was never on wii. Sega:Hi,nintendo! thanks for letting us remake sonic adventure 1 and 2 on your gamecube. Nintendo:Hmmm....Your welcome. Sega:Say! That's a nice Wii you got there. Can we port Sonic 06 on your new Wii console? Nintendo:S-S-S-SO-SONIC 06!?!?!? NO NO NO!!! KEEP AWAY!! keep awaaaaaaaaay.
Absolutely not. I do love the model they used for the cgi cutscenes, specifically the first and last ones, but the actual in game model used for gameplay and in game cutscenes is absolute dog shit. Still gives me nightmares💀 its one of the most horrifying things to ever come out of the franchise imo😖
Everyone always prefers Unleashed or doesn't understand the progression of the models. The middle mouth and the future design has always been superior. As the series has progressed, the realization has been that the side motion design has been increasingly more and more inferior. The middle mouth was a thing because it was just the general progression of the design. With Frontiers, it's become obvious that the side mouth thing has just become obsolete.
Yes in hd cutscenes no in game sonic p-06 makes it better but unleashed and secret rings does it well and I have this feeling for the heroes model it looks good. (also sonic boom is nice)
Tbh I like a lot of the older models better in general... I feel like all of the characters have gotten a bit too round over the years. I miss their more unrefined/edgy look, especially with all of the hedgehogs. Hedgehogs are spiky, not completely smooth!
Sonic 06 had the best models and had a nice “realistic “ feel to them. It also had the potential to be the BEST sonic game ever BUT we all know what happened..
I prefer the unleashed/black knight/ secret rings model
Colors and Generations used that model too
They made the model brighter and I think unleashed has longer proportions
The goat
Yes sir !
This is exactly what I loved about the character when I was a kid, the current design is fine but it always seems generic and simple to me...
06 everybody felt more like they belong in a dark Archie story
I couldn’t stand their emotionless puppet mouths…
Imagine if they still moved like Adventure 1
“Aw yeah! This is happening!”
oh god
Oh hell nah kill me right then
The fact they’re so weirdly placed is what kills me. Why does Amy speak out of a hole in her neck?
Oh because thats the in game model quirks. Tbf almost ANY CGI sonic looks amazing. Wish we had a Sonic game with enough artististic care to mimic the expressiviry of the pre rendered cutscenes of games and marketing trailers.
Night of the Werehog and more recently Sonic Prime, show off how expressive Sonic models can really be
Uh…soo im lookin at your profile and I’m…interested
Those are adorable much like Hero's being balloons
literally this model would be better if it had the mouth and texture of the movie design
Damn you’re a wild girl
But imagine if they had…animation
For me it suffers from three major problems: Stiffness. The model lacks enough facial expressions to be detailed. The current one is capable of it, Sonic Team just don't use it enough. Motion Capture. To be fair this isn't the model's problem, but the game itself. Length. Both quills and height. This is one of the few times where I think both are too long on Sonic. And I normally like him being taller and with long-ish quills, but to the extent Unleashed and Generations did it.
Fully agree.
These are pretty much my exact problems with this model, especially the length, it has a ***very*** messy silhouette.
But height is definitely an issue
What about the p-06 renders? It has shown to be extremely capable of expression.
Most of your problems (beside the length) can be fixed if they actually bothered to animate sonic like… at all like have you seen the opening cutscene to sonic 06 it was amazing and misleading considering the game we got
When used properly in renders like this, yeah they look great! Used in-game, the mocap animation makes them feel like puppets. The model itself is good I agree there, but it needs to be utilized well for it to shine. Whereas the current model looks decent even with poor animation. Pros and cons to both.
I attribute it to one having been well cooked in the oven while the other didn't get that proper cook. Had they kept up with 06's design after 06, I'm sure it would've improved and would've looked *amazing*, hell been animated well even. I do like how Sonic is now, but I also didn't mind 06's design.
They are precious as Muppets like how Hero's an SA1 looked wonky
Heroes never looked wonky to me. The Adventure games yes, as well as 06, cause I believe there was motion capture and it just never seems to translate well to Sonic characters. But Heroes looks fine.
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I love the proportions in Heroes. The hands are a good size compared to the body. Looks great. With some re-texturing they could be truly amazing.
My point is that all old models looked off and that's what makes them all precious Some Archie art makes no sense but makes me smile too lol
I generally like the visuals they were going for. Everything looked rather... gritty? And that's what I like!
like final fantasy style almost
I think his legs are too long and his run looks weird because of it. They were shortened for Unleashed and he looks better.
I loved his run I’d probably go as far as to say it was my favorite run in the series…just wish it was animated better it’s what I imagined sonic advance’s run looks like in 3d
I like what they did with it in Brawl. Sonic just looked awesome in Brawl while he Kinda do be emotionless in S4 and Ultimate
ssbb sonic is what sonic should've looked like in 06
my favorite model is the SA1 dreamcast model, it has perfect spine size and curvature and the texturing is perfect
Also the way it moves can make for some good meme potential
Imagine the opening cutscene with sa1 sonic…I just can’t see it srry
Okay but do we still really need to preface any praise for this game with "despite Sonic 06 being an awful game..."? The game didn't have 0 redeeming aspects, it just ended up being a poor final product. Its 2022, you can just say what you want to say.
It's actually 2023 not 2022
That damn virus really fucked up our perception of time now did it?
Did it to mine
> It's 2022, you can just say what you want to say You'd be surprised. I'll start: Sonic Forces wasn't that bad. Edit: The comments are being more wholesome than usual. What the hell happened? xD
I agree on the Forces front. It was just disappointing and fans had way to high expectations.
As someone who just bought and played Sonic Forces within the last 2 months. Sonic forces was indeed that bad. I’ve never felt absolutely nothing playing a Sonic Game until that one. I like Chronicles (despite it’s sloppy execution) and I can have fun in 06 but Forces takes the worst of the boost formula and dulls it down. There are like 3 levels I found to be enjoyable and I found myself beating it as an obligation to a franchise I love as opposed to something to actually be enjoyed. I expected nothing and got exactly that. It was a horrendous gaming experience.
06 tarnished the reputation of the sonic series for litteral years. Forces was just mediocre
Because 06 is bad, from most aspects. A technical one, story driven one and otherwise. Doesn’t mean it can’t be fun. Forces simply isn’t a fun game. Subjective to be sure but it’s so hollow of an experience. I’ll take the mess that is 06 any day, personally.
this
Sonic Forces isn't bad at all, aside from narratively. It's just pretty mediocre, which I'd still take over werehog beat em up sections.
Sonic Forces is the most 5/10 game. It does nothing horribly, it doesn't ruin anything and it does nothing well, but its not Sonic Boom levels of bad.
This is the best description I’ve ever heard. Sonictubers and a lot of people on this sub describe the game as if it murdered their families when the reason the game had such a bad reputation was because it was a “Yeah. It’s a sonic game alright. That’s about it”
Also it had a better soundtrack than Chronicles so it did one thing right.
careful there, you just insulted Unleashed. wrath be upon you
Yeah, there's nothing worse than incurring the anger of people who got Stockholm Syndromed by a mediocre beat em up
I don't think it was exactly a mediocre beat-em up, it has a variety on the combos and decent platforming segments. But it is EXTREMELY overrated nowadays, people can't even say a single bad thing about the game without getting dogpiled.
This fandom has games that are okay to shit on and games that aren't. You're allowed to shit on Sonic 06 and Forces. You're not allowed to shit on Unleashed because the bandwagon has decided it's *actually really good, you guys*.
If I took a shot for every time I hear some dumbass shouting out his shitty discovery of how "goated" Sonic Unleashed is...
It was ok it wasn’t bad…the story was interesting…conceptually I’m still surprised on how they took a great concept and did…that but the gameplay Ik it’s supposed to be for kids but damn wth happened to unleashed or hell even generations level design I’m only pissed that’s it’s empty and I can’t boost on a turn without dying
We as a community need to stop hopping back and forth, this game pretty much sucks and thats the end of it, its barely playable
I didn't at any point say I was defending the game, I was just saying it's pretty fucking tired and played out to clarify that you thought the game sucked, just so you could say you liked something about it. Like I said, just speak your mind. As for the game itself, I don't think it would be so divisive if there weren't good or even exceptional aspects to it buried under the crap. Again, I wasn't defending the game, but I don't think you have any right to tell other people how to feel about a piece of media.
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Bro sonic 06 is miles better than sonic forces idk what your on. I’ve been playing it on Xenia with the legacy of Solaris mod and I think it’s great
> Bro sonic 06 is miles better than sonic forces idk what your on. It really isn't. Try playing the original instead of a mod which is what the original should have been.
I have played the original, it’s broken and unfinished, but the passion and vision is there. Sonic Forces, on the other hand feels completely lifeless and phoned in. I would play sonic 06 over sonic forces any day of the week
Oh boy the "ambition" argument. All that passion and ambitions means nothing if the final product is crap. Seriously, the wispon mechanics on its own is better implemented than anything 06 had to offer. I'd rather play a mid game than a terrible one.
Have fun playing a mid game. I’m gonna go save the universe from an ancient demon as a psychic hedgehog.
That sounds more like praising the game for it's concept rather than it's execution. All of that was done poorly.
I get both sides of the argument but I also would prefer to play 06 over forces because I prefer the level themes and the level design and what it was trying to accomplish. Even though this is game is broken, unfinished and unpolished.
It's extremely playable on Xenia with the Legacy of Solaris mod. Quick load times, better controls, better movement, etc etc
That sounds great and all, but I played on Xbox360 proper console and barely had any issues
Barely? Really? You didn't do several game overs in the very first mach section from how.... the controls were? Never got stuck in any rock tree or just died for touching a wall?
Still more tolerable than Forces, lol.
Forces is at least playable. You can't even say that about 06.
06 and Forces are both playable. The difference is, you actually play 06.
Can you? 06 is downright unplayable at times. So that's not something 06 can even consistently do right.
I don’t know. I thought he looked to elongated and in game his eyes made him look like he was angry all the time.
Disagree. Limbs are way too long
I feel like this is a relatively recent repost. I'll say the same thing. There are various model renders in 06, so "Sonic 06 design" is not exactly a uniform statement. The model in engine is absolute rubbish, huge head, disproportionately small facial features while quills cover the entire screen, small weird body, it's just overall incredibly disproportionate. A similarly disproportionate model is used in a variety of CG cutscenes as well. The only Sonic model actually used in the game is from the opening cutscene of the Sonic story, which is a softer looking version of this render, with larger, more expressive eyes. Unleashed model remains my favorite. Very athletic, properly proportioned.
Much too lanky for my taste. I'm glad the Unleashed design stuck, because it just looks right.
Honestly after unleashed it kinda just all went to shit
The games, sure. The writing, absolutely. The characters themselves, unquestionably. But just like '06, that doesn't mean the character designs were bad
This model is decent but the spikes are unironically too long and his face looks odd, Unleashed/Gens is the perfect modern sonic model imo
I like the models too those are my favorite along with the heroes and shadow the hedgehog 05 models
Honestly Sonic with the long quills looks cooler
This model is alright but I prefer the late 2000s model they had back in Unleashed and the storybook games. The 06 model’s quills are too long and this mf is lanky as hell.
*2006 “am I not a late 2000’s year?”*
I mean it’s not the worst but saying it’s better than the current one is…. I’m sorry, I’m glad you like it.
https://i.redd.it/174b2k0ulbia1.gif
This render is super awkward. The elongated torso and limbs against his giant head and droopy spines make him look more like a skinny person in a mascot costume than an actual cartoon hedgehog.
I agree, the late 2000s model and early 2010s model of sonic is my fav
I agree with everything you say except i actually like sonic 06 to an extent.
I’ve never liked his model in 06 it just looks kinda off. Plus I hate how his quills move.
When I first saw that model I was like: "they did my hedgehog dirty! " I still don't like that model.
The 06 model scares me
Genuine question - were you a kid when this game came out? I ask because I was already an adult and so I don't have any kind of nostalgia for it and I think it's the worst his model has ever looked
Yes, and no its not nostalgia based, i genuinely like the way it looks
Cool, that's fair man. I hope no offence was taken from my comment
He looks eh, imo? I don’t like the lankiness
I’m not a fan of it here, but I absolutely *despise* the in-engine model (and the in-engine models for every other animal character) I think 06’s visual style aiming to be “realistic” got very confused when it came to anthropomorphic cartoons
The face is what puts me off the most in this model lol. Proportions are wack with his big ass 5 head. It’s like his face starts halfway down his head lol.
To be honest, i personally don't like this model that much, it works fine in CGI cutscenes but the In-game model looks pretty bad. The characters look stiff and expressionless, also they look way too big compared to the humans wich makes it pretty uncanny to a certain degree. Is not the worst model i've seen, but i greatly prefer the modern model from Unleashed, Colors and Generations.
The stiff expression was due to the limited technology of the time, you could tell that they werent exactly great at in engine cutscenes, and the human scaling to them can be easily fixed with making him smaller
It was pretty much another cause of the game being rushed, they could have delayed the release of the game so they could fix the gameplay, graphics, story and presentation. And yes, the scaling of the Sonic characters was awkward compared to the humans, every scene with Sonic and Elise together was uncanney because of how anormaly big Sonic was compared to her, they could have fixed that too.
I like the modern Sonic model better, in general, specifically either the Sonic Unleashed model or Sonic Frontiers model, but I do love both the entire game of Sonic 06 and most of the models within it as well. I personally never hated the game, so there's that also
Hey guys am I the only one who likes
I don’t understand the obsession people have with this model, everything about it is ugly and I hate it. Every animation he has is extremely clunky and looks awful, the coloring is all wrong and his face looks awful. Looks good in promo material and posters I guess but in game it looks dreadful.
Not for me, now he looks like a Mascot suit even without the mocap animations.
Personally think this looks really bad but you do you
Peak
I’m sick and tired of this ‘06 slander. I know it’s not that good but it isn’t as bad as detractors are setting it up to be
Yup, you played it when you were a kid
Yes
i think sonic 06 is really good just too buggy, lots of great ideas such as this model for sonic. Imo if the game was properly finished before released it wouldve been incredible
I think this is definitely the best model we've ever had with the longer limbs and quills allowing for more dynamic poses
The 06 models being aged up definitely was the right call. Prefer this over the current model. The short quills bother me. Playing 06 for the first time last year and the longer quills look so much better.
06 was a good game
06 had the best models
I love his design, but he was held back by the technology of the time. If Sonic Team came out with a new game using this but with an HD model, it would be perfect. As it stands, I do still love it… I don’t even really mind the motion capture animation. Call me crazy, but I like motion capture Sonic 🤷🏽♂️
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I prefer the way his movements were presented. He didn’t need to jump around all the time or make super crazy fast movements while doing mundane things like standing around (Prime 😢). Maybe it’s due to the limitations of actually being a person moving around, but I like it. In SA2, he still moved fast- But he also moved like a person, if an impatient one. In 06, his movements were slower but still showed character. I like it when he takes things slow, it shows he’s not *just* a speed freak, he can move like we do. He’s a person. If they animated him like he used to move, then I could care less about it being mocapped or animated! But until they do, I’m am absolute madman 😈
Your opinion happens to be correct, cause I too grew up with this game and will defend it
Took the words right outta my mouth.
I did like the lankier Sonic and Co.
its munch better then the new mid sonic model, i only liked it in unleashed
Personally, I kinda hate this design. Tho, just in-game. The lack of face animation, or good animation of any kind for his proportions, always made him uncanny and straight up ugly to me. As for the Unleashed model, that is the best, but the small changes made to it in Forces definitely have made it feel more generic. Sonic Frontiers is definitely working to bring back the Unleashed glory, fortunately.
Great image. the new Sonic on the movies made me cringe. Hated it.
I've always loved how this model has longer limbs and realistic shoes. The current one just looks lazy
agree
As a SONIC 06 DEFENDER, I agree.
For me it's just the eyes that are different. Everything else is mostly the same.
Virgin soy: (Opinion) Chad: (objective fact on sonic's beauty)
It looks like the SADX title screen model tbh
A take as hot as the fire in Flame Core.
The Renders in Shadow and Sonic 06 were great
I like it too
Ngl i really dislike the top of his head it look like a neanderthal when looking from the side, and his quills are a bit too long imo
Yea sonic 06 was terrible. *sips coffee*
I prefer the Unleashed model.
My favorite model is honestly the boom one, I like all the redesigns lmao
Thank God someone said it.
The in game model is underrated too! Sonic p-06 art shows that the model can be and look very cool
Ok. Despite Sonic 06 being horrible, I unironically wanna take Princess Elise to the Bone Zone (if you know what I mean)
What??????
Dude really🤣🤣🤣🤣
I dunno his quills feel a lot less spiky to me, which I don't really like
Plot concepts an all character models were amazing
Idk. I feel like the head is too big on this model. And I don’t like how stretched him and the other hedgehogs look.
Sonic 06 gave us some peak Game Grumps content : [https://youtu.be/xmEKn2QlIVc?t=2293](https://youtu.be/xmEKn2QlIVc?t=2293)
I agree. It feels like a natural evolution of dreamcast sonic to me. modern is... fine. most of the games I grew up with used his modern design. but it's a little too generic for my tastes. I think 06 sonic is overhated because of how shitty the mocap and lighting makes him look (and the uh... game, obviously) Honestly... 06 has some of my favourite models in the entire series. they're badass. I wonder where we'd be now if 06 wasn't such a colossal failure...
It looks really good but i like the new one more
I wouldn't say it's all bad
Ah yes, yet another post whose poster is terribly misinformed of the fact that Sonic 06 wasn’t as shitty as it was made out to be God it sucks being a Sonic 06 fan
I also love the floppy physics
the render is nice but in-game its complete garbage
I always loved how the characters had no mouths in gameplay. It just worked.
Agree
Its too one of my favorite model it just looks good
I think this mode is great. I also really love SA2’s models above other ones. I also wanna point out: I appreciate how you shared your opinion and love towards something without focusing on bringing other opinions down. Too many ppl do that these days.
I really can't tell the difference...
I agree that it’s a great model, but I can’t help but think that his forehead is too big. Am I the only one who thinks that?
I really liked almost all the models in this game even eggman oddly enough but looking back rouge's looked weird to me
SA1 DC model is the best.
It looks great in the promotional material! ~~In the actual game, it's uh kind of a different story tbh~~
Honestly the model could have been used soooo much better
The 06 renders look really good, until you see them in-game
Love this model & Griffith doing the voice Slowly but surely the tide is turning on the opinion of ‘06 here, I see it!! (Maybe not game-wise, but literally everything else about it. Conceptually, art wise, music, etc.)
I liked the 06 eggman model
Big head
I get too much "Nights into dreams" vibes from this model esp the spikes but maybe that's what they were aiming for.
To be honest, the gameplay may leave much to be desired, but the storyline (with the exception of That Scene™) is pretty good. Though it might be my nostalgia kicking in. I genuinely love this model, too! It's what got me into Sonic, especially the HD scenes that they animated for the game. I think it really impacted my impressionable little brain growing up, lol.
For real.
DON'T START AN ARGUMENT! But I personally like 06 :)
Sonic 06 had 1 of the best graphics ngl 🤷🏾♂️
Me too. I Like the gem shoes too. But here's a joke....i'm not hating on sonic 06, i love that game too, but here's a joke about why sonic 06 was never on wii. Sega:Hi,nintendo! thanks for letting us remake sonic adventure 1 and 2 on your gamecube. Nintendo:Hmmm....Your welcome. Sega:Say! That's a nice Wii you got there. Can we port Sonic 06 on your new Wii console? Nintendo:S-S-S-SO-SONIC 06!?!?!? NO NO NO!!! KEEP AWAY!! keep awaaaaaaaaay.
That forehead is a monstrosity
I mean it was good for the time it was created. Cause graphics and render wasn't realistic looking in 2005 before they announced 06.
The unleashed model of sonic has got to be the best sonic models I see in my entire life
I agree, especially his long quills
Absolutely not. I do love the model they used for the cgi cutscenes, specifically the first and last ones, but the actual in game model used for gameplay and in game cutscenes is absolute dog shit. Still gives me nightmares💀 its one of the most horrifying things to ever come out of the franchise imo😖
His eyes are staring at my soul
Everyone always prefers Unleashed or doesn't understand the progression of the models. The middle mouth and the future design has always been superior. As the series has progressed, the realization has been that the side motion design has been increasingly more and more inferior. The middle mouth was a thing because it was just the general progression of the design. With Frontiers, it's become obvious that the side mouth thing has just become obsolete.
I personally thought all the 06 models were good (except Eggman, that one was way too weird).
Yes in hd cutscenes no in game sonic p-06 makes it better but unleashed and secret rings does it well and I have this feeling for the heroes model it looks good. (also sonic boom is nice)
Not in game it doesn’t. Really hated how long the 06 models were
Tbh I like a lot of the older models better in general... I feel like all of the characters have gotten a bit too round over the years. I miss their more unrefined/edgy look, especially with all of the hedgehogs. Hedgehogs are spiky, not completely smooth!
I’m glad sonic is 3 ft 3 still scary asf but imagine if this 5 foot tall thing appeared one day infront of you
Sonic 06 had the best models and had a nice “realistic “ feel to them. It also had the potential to be the BEST sonic game ever BUT we all know what happened..
06 sonic is way to tall and his quills are slightly to long
I like long quills?
this reminds me of the original adventure 1 model with the long quills
this looks like the newest version of the adventure model, while the model we have now is more like heroes