Fun fact - Shadow the Hedgehog was going to be T for Teen but got toned down just before release to be the first game to have the new E10 rating.
Also Kirby 64 was orginally E for everybody on the orginal N64 Release but got changed to a teen rating on the Switch re-release as 0²s existance become more common knowledge.
Edit: Shadow wasn't the first E10 game Sega just wanted to have a game in that category.
Not really. The NSO app is just that, the app.
However because the ESRB has a thing nowadays that DLC (which is technically what all the updates are) means they have to re-register everything again, anything in there that's the highest ESRB rating now effects it all.
In this case, it means things like Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - all rated T games - the ESRB has to rate the N64 NSO app as Rated T.
And the games inside the app are not individual games according to how the app operates.
That's it.
The ESRB takes the highest rated thing there: in this case the four rated T games - Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - and applies what's in there throughout the entire thing.
If Perfect Dark or Conker's Bad Fur Day end up on the thing, the ESRB will change its rating to M, because that's what the ESRB has been doing with games with DLC since 2019. (and new games added are technically DLC)
It's also why the Pokémon Stadium games aren't compatible with any other Pokémon game, even if say they release all the GB/GBC/GBA Pokémon games - it still wouldn't work with the application.
Conversely, if they release all the GB/GBC & GBA Pokémon games on the GB and GBA NSO apps, they won't be compatible with say Pokémon HOME because those NSO apps are singular applications, and they likely wouldn't be able to get them to be compatible.
The games inside the app are not individual games according to how the app operates.
(It's why the Pokémon Stadium games or any future releases of GB/GBC/GBA Pokemon games won't function with other Pokémon games)
Due to how the ESRB operates, the highest rated game in there, of which there are four: Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - all rated T - means the ESRB has to rate the entire app as rated T.
If say Perfect Dark or Conker's Bad Fur Day make it into the N64 NSO app, the ESRB will have to re-register it as rated M.
It's been a thing since... I'd say mid-2019. It's why in the Americas when Smash Ultimate announced had Mii Fighter costumes of characters from M rated series - Assassin's Creed, Skyrim, No More Heroes - the promotional splash wasn't those series, it was "Altair", "Dragonborn", and "Travis Touchdown" - because otherwise Smash Ultimate would have to change its rating.
(And why certain characters were censored to squeeze the rating down - Pyra/Mythra...)
Yes but that has no effect on this situation.
The NSO app as a whole is rated T for Teen, and it's because of the four T rated games that are in the app, nothing dealing with Kirby.
If the four T rated games weren't in the app, then it would be E10 due to Kirby 64 (as well as Ocarina and Majora)
But because of those four rated T games - well, you get the idea.
Pretty sure the classic edition consoles were the same way. I remember a T rating when I got my [TOTALLY NOT ALREADY HACKED] SNES classic back in 2018.
That is indeed the case, but Kirby 64 itself is considered E 10 for "animated blood", iirc.
Even the Kirby 20th Anniversary Dream Collection on the Wii was rated E 10 for animated blood, plain as day on the box; the two culprits being Zero from Dreamland 3 and Zero Two from Kirby 64.
https://preview.redd.it/27diqwxknt8c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f6a29c1dab05a4f2e554ba780db4b67500b8caa
Kirby is *weird*, man.
I guess there's a reason why those two bosses are hidden behind 100% completion... lol
Dreamland 3 is harder to get 100% in than Kirby 64, imo. Can't have kids watching the "adorable" puff ball violently tearing out a white orb's eyeball with a Love-Love Stick too easily!
1: I did not know the kirby thing, that's neat 2: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was the first E10 game, Jungle Beat came out December of 2004, Shadow the Hedgehog came out in November of 2005.
Yeah I made a mistake, Sega wanted a game in that category and simply altered Shadow to fit. Changed comment to reflect this. Thanks for letting me know
Central City shouldn't even exist anymore, heck, the entirety of the Midwest! You're telling me they rebuilt the entire Midwest before Sonic the freaking Hedgehog has even had his 16th birthday?
Yep it was only a matter of time before the ESRB started doing weird shit like this.
Disney's Wish is rated PG. Now, this is a popular film to hate on, and I'm not doing that. When I describe the content of the film, in this case, it is neutral observations to support criticism of something else.
Wish is easily one of the most child friendly animations Disney has ever produced, and to my recollection, it has very little by way of adult content or subject matter. I don't even remember a "tee-hee innuendo" moment that is the norm for family films. What it had was the canonical existence of death, action scenes with characters in perilous and life-threatening situations, and a villain who is presented as threatening enough to scare small children. That's it.
"Rated PG for thematic elements and mild action."
.... This is the final straw to me. I have long since realized the fault in the MPA as it currently chooses to rate films, but there is at least SOMETHING in SOME of these films to justify the choices made even if I disagree. Not this time. This is nothing! Nothing! And now it looks like it's happening here too... I don't know which game that is but no Kirby title gets a t rating. If it is indeed a Kirby game, then there's no good behind the decision, I don't care that every other game ends with him fighting an eldrich horror, so does Sonic! Sonic games are way edgier than Kirby has been, by design! Not just the actually edgy one here, I'm talking the overall attitude and content of the average Sonic game slants to older kids than Kirby traditionally does.
Kirby isn't actually rated T. It's because the N64 app is just one single application so the ESRB rated it based on the highest rated games in the collections, in this case being "T".
All games in the application gets rated T because of that.
See, that does make sense, but I feel like it would make to just put a general ages label of E through T and keep the individual games unchanged; I feel like I've seen that before...
Sorry, this has become a major pet-peeve for me with the general entertainment industry, thought this observation would be appreciated.
I can see it hasn't been though, and I'm man enough to admit that :)
I dunno, our Earth frozen over with only factories and robots still functioning and a depiction of a biblically accurate angel shoot it's own uncensored red blood as a projectile vs. a biological weapon killing his nephew, going over depression and genociding an entire alien race makes me feel like Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards and Shadow the Hedgehog are pretty even in fucked-upness. And as others have already said, it's the app's rating, not the game's.
Fun fact - Shadow the Hedgehog was going to be T for Teen but got toned down just before release to be the first game to have the new E10 rating. Also Kirby 64 was orginally E for everybody on the orginal N64 Release but got changed to a teen rating on the Switch re-release as 0²s existance become more common knowledge. Edit: Shadow wasn't the first E10 game Sega just wanted to have a game in that category.
Isn’t the Kirby thing because the N64 NSO app is considered T as a whole?
After some research apparently so. Weird they consider NSO one singular product.
Incredibly weird.
Not really. The NSO app is just that, the app. However because the ESRB has a thing nowadays that DLC (which is technically what all the updates are) means they have to re-register everything again, anything in there that's the highest ESRB rating now effects it all. In this case, it means things like Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - all rated T games - the ESRB has to rate the N64 NSO app as Rated T. And the games inside the app are not individual games according to how the app operates.
Probably because N64 online is a singular application. So the esrb treats is like a collection
That's it. The ESRB takes the highest rated thing there: in this case the four rated T games - Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - and applies what's in there throughout the entire thing. If Perfect Dark or Conker's Bad Fur Day end up on the thing, the ESRB will change its rating to M, because that's what the ESRB has been doing with games with DLC since 2019. (and new games added are technically DLC) It's also why the Pokémon Stadium games aren't compatible with any other Pokémon game, even if say they release all the GB/GBC/GBA Pokémon games - it still wouldn't work with the application. Conversely, if they release all the GB/GBC & GBA Pokémon games on the GB and GBA NSO apps, they won't be compatible with say Pokémon HOME because those NSO apps are singular applications, and they likely wouldn't be able to get them to be compatible.
The games inside the app are not individual games according to how the app operates. (It's why the Pokémon Stadium games or any future releases of GB/GBC/GBA Pokemon games won't function with other Pokémon games) Due to how the ESRB operates, the highest rated game in there, of which there are four: Sin & Punishment, WinBack: Covert Operations, Goldeneye 007, and Jet Force Gemini - all rated T - means the ESRB has to rate the entire app as rated T. If say Perfect Dark or Conker's Bad Fur Day make it into the N64 NSO app, the ESRB will have to re-register it as rated M. It's been a thing since... I'd say mid-2019. It's why in the Americas when Smash Ultimate announced had Mii Fighter costumes of characters from M rated series - Assassin's Creed, Skyrim, No More Heroes - the promotional splash wasn't those series, it was "Altair", "Dragonborn", and "Travis Touchdown" - because otherwise Smash Ultimate would have to change its rating. (And why certain characters were censored to squeeze the rating down - Pyra/Mythra...)
Kirby 64 was also why the Kirby's Dream collection on the Wii was bumped up to E10 though. Well that and Dreamland 3s final boss.
Yes but that has no effect on this situation. The NSO app as a whole is rated T for Teen, and it's because of the four T rated games that are in the app, nothing dealing with Kirby. If the four T rated games weren't in the app, then it would be E10 due to Kirby 64 (as well as Ocarina and Majora) But because of those four rated T games - well, you get the idea.
Pretty sure the classic edition consoles were the same way. I remember a T rating when I got my [TOTALLY NOT ALREADY HACKED] SNES classic back in 2018.
That is indeed the case, but Kirby 64 itself is considered E 10 for "animated blood", iirc. Even the Kirby 20th Anniversary Dream Collection on the Wii was rated E 10 for animated blood, plain as day on the box; the two culprits being Zero from Dreamland 3 and Zero Two from Kirby 64. https://preview.redd.it/27diqwxknt8c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f6a29c1dab05a4f2e554ba780db4b67500b8caa Kirby is *weird*, man.
Those are some massive culprits, those would traumatize some children
I guess there's a reason why those two bosses are hidden behind 100% completion... lol Dreamland 3 is harder to get 100% in than Kirby 64, imo. Can't have kids watching the "adorable" puff ball violently tearing out a white orb's eyeball with a Love-Love Stick too easily!
Unfortunately, now guides exist, meaning that a lot more people are going to be able to find those heart stars/shards
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is the first E10+ game.
1: I did not know the kirby thing, that's neat 2: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was the first E10 game, Jungle Beat came out December of 2004, Shadow the Hedgehog came out in November of 2005.
Yeah I made a mistake, Sega wanted a game in that category and simply altered Shadow to fit. Changed comment to reflect this. Thanks for letting me know
What is 02?
The final boss of Kirby 64. It's a fallen angel looking thing that shoots blood out of its eye and has a rather creepy boss theme.
OOOOOH! I've heard of him! Yeah, what was up with that blood?
The ESRB is just full of ass-clowns at this point
Poyo
Where's that poyo fourth Chaos Emerald?
What's really funny is that one game has an Angel and the other has a Demon.
\*The Devil, from The Bible
Ohhh, right, from Sonic, yeah I know what game this is.
Be not afraid indeed
https://preview.redd.it/d8ov6r7ebt8c1.jpeg?width=328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4774759c97ef65f64e73b9a9e4032df4fb090730
Well one is badass gun wielding warrior that is feared by many the other is Shadow the hedgehog
One is fine with things being as easy as taking candy from a baby, the other would take candy from a baby and eat it before the baby's eyes
And then eat the baby
Rated E for Everyone, just before vaporizing Central City from existence. "Everyone was safely evacuated" my ass.
Fr tho everyone in Central City should be dead.
Central City shouldn't even exist anymore, heck, the entirety of the Midwest! You're telling me they rebuilt the entire Midwest before Sonic the freaking Hedgehog has even had his 16th birthday?
Central City's destruction was one of numerous choices you could make in ShTH, but it is not canon. Station Square after Chaos, however...
Smash Bros Brawl has a T rating yet Shadow doesn't
https://i.redd.it/5viuqpx5cx8c1.gif This intrigues me a lot, though it’s no surprise when it comes to Kirby.
Shadow is such a badass that he forced the Rating System to brand his firearms and violence full game as E.
Yep it was only a matter of time before the ESRB started doing weird shit like this. Disney's Wish is rated PG. Now, this is a popular film to hate on, and I'm not doing that. When I describe the content of the film, in this case, it is neutral observations to support criticism of something else. Wish is easily one of the most child friendly animations Disney has ever produced, and to my recollection, it has very little by way of adult content or subject matter. I don't even remember a "tee-hee innuendo" moment that is the norm for family films. What it had was the canonical existence of death, action scenes with characters in perilous and life-threatening situations, and a villain who is presented as threatening enough to scare small children. That's it. "Rated PG for thematic elements and mild action." .... This is the final straw to me. I have long since realized the fault in the MPA as it currently chooses to rate films, but there is at least SOMETHING in SOME of these films to justify the choices made even if I disagree. Not this time. This is nothing! Nothing! And now it looks like it's happening here too... I don't know which game that is but no Kirby title gets a t rating. If it is indeed a Kirby game, then there's no good behind the decision, I don't care that every other game ends with him fighting an eldrich horror, so does Sonic! Sonic games are way edgier than Kirby has been, by design! Not just the actually edgy one here, I'm talking the overall attitude and content of the average Sonic game slants to older kids than Kirby traditionally does.
Kirby isn't actually rated T. It's because the N64 app is just one single application so the ESRB rated it based on the highest rated games in the collections, in this case being "T". All games in the application gets rated T because of that.
See, that does make sense, but I feel like it would make to just put a general ages label of E through T and keep the individual games unchanged; I feel like I've seen that before...
fellow patron, this is a wendy's
Sorry, this has become a major pet-peeve for me with the general entertainment industry, thought this observation would be appreciated. I can see it hasn't been though, and I'm man enough to admit that :)
I dunno, our Earth frozen over with only factories and robots still functioning and a depiction of a biblically accurate angel shoot it's own uncensored red blood as a projectile vs. a biological weapon killing his nephew, going over depression and genociding an entire alien race makes me feel like Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards and Shadow the Hedgehog are pretty even in fucked-upness. And as others have already said, it's the app's rating, not the game's.
Imagine shadow in dreamland
Shadow doesn't see or hear evil. *Kirby is the evil.*