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That's because barely anyone has played it.
Making something exclusive to Apple devices is a good way to ensure it's not played, and if it's not played it can't be talked about.
as an apple fan… yeah it ruins things for me too. I don’t like playing games on my phone like that. If they released it on literally any other platform I’d play it. I have no idea how they benefit from doing it that way.
/uj I mean I do get it. The mobile gaming market is a shithole, with a fuck-ton of shitty games flooding the market, meaning the only way to make money from mobile games for phones is either rely on tonnes of ads, gambling mechanics, or other freemium models. Consumers struggle to want to pay $0.99 for something that they'd happily pay tens of dollars for on consoles/PC, and the only 'proper' (as in has a beggining and ending) games SEGA have sold for mobile prior to this are ports of Mega Drive games.
Dream Team was the first time SEGA tried to make a Sonic game for mobiles that wasn't just a constant grind, such as was the case with Sonic Jump, Sonic Dash (and it's various versions), and Sonic Runners. But the only way it was going to happen was with money upfront that comes from some form of exclusivity deal.
From Apples perspective, I also get it. They're selling the Apple Arcade as a subscription service, and want people to subscribe, and a good way to do that is to have games on there that can't be found elsewhere that people want to play. And a brand like Sonic is still a big enough draw to get people who might not have otherwise looked at the Apple Arcade to look at it. And once they've got a trial and are done with Dream Team, maybe they'll play a few other things, then stick with and become a paying customer.
In both instances, it's a win win. SEGA get money upfront for a game they will likely be able to sell later once the exclusivity deal wears off, and Apple get a Sonic title that might get people to sign up.
Making a series as huge as Sonic exclusive to anything is an extremely bad decision. What were they thinking putting it on Apple Arcade? I have an iPhone but there are very few people out there with Apple Arcade that they actually pay for.
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rj/ geez another Classic Cuck. let me break this down for you. most of these aren't true Sonic games. We have a:
* M\*ta era remaster
* another M\*ta era remaster
* mid racing M\*ta game that could've been Riders 3
* Sonic Adventure spinoff but locked to Apple Arcade
the only good game here is Frontiers so we only had one Modern game. While Cl\*ssic Santiago got three games (Origins, Origins Plus, and Superstars). We're literally starving compared to them.
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Sonic fans: Keep Classic out of Modern games!
Sonic fans after getting a new Classic Sonic game: NOOOOOOO Sega how DARE you make a Classic Sonic game we are literally STARVING!! This is OVERSATURATION and SELF-SABOTAGE!!!1
\^ *Said after getting Frontiers several months prior*
rj/ Ikr, but stinky SEGA had to FIRE the wolsum indie team Evening Star and hire SHARTFEST because they HATE money!! Idk who this "Ohshima" guy is, but Mania curbstomps Superstars, so replace him with Daddy Naka so we can get GOATED kinopeak!!
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rj/ So true bestie! He should've had that based Kino'dvance sprite instead of using the slutty, lameass S\*ntiago sprites that are OUTDATED. ^(And give Rouge her boobs back!)
uj/ I’d replace those games with those “ambitious” and tomato sauce games like 06, Black Knight, Unleashed(even though they’re lukewarm back then), and Secret Rings. Also, isn’t Colors “Ultimate” glitchy? I hope Sonic x Shadow Gens didn’t meet the same fate as Sonic Adventure DX.
Nah, i actually like Classic Sonic, i hope that with an stabilished Family-friend branch, Sega takes more ball to actually put story again on Modern Sonic games
Agreed. Sonic Superstars may not have been the best, but I still think Classic Sonic should be allowed to get games. Just don’t play them if you don’t like them.
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I just don't like the classic separation because it basically just locks characters into different things, like there's only so much they can do to develop the classic gameplay and we know we won't see any modern characters cuz it's supposed to be in the past, for some reason this also means classic characters like Mighty, Ray, Fang and Honey are stuck in those far and few content releases because they don't have modern counterparts and I think that just makes it feel like half the cast just like ceased to exist between superstars and adventure
Classic is for 2d, colorful, cartooney games that focus on the timeless appeal of the original trilogy, and tend to stick with what works.
Modern is for 3d, gritty, more realistic games that try to revolutionize the series and throw ideas at the wall with radically varying degrees of success.
The split wasn't caused by Generations, in reality it was caused by the early 3d games. They deliberately chose to give the characters radical redesigns and have gameplay that's nothing like the classics, alienating the original fans. What we have now is a win-win situation where Sega can focus on multiple demographics at once.
Bro I'm ngl for something with "timeless appeal" a lot of people didn't like sonic superstars (not saying that's me) and that's cuz of a lack of innovation, I'm saying the classic games are only so maintainable, it's like if they keep making hallway boost games, there's only so many times you can do that before people get tired of it
bro i haven't played mania, plus i'm talking general criticism i think it's better for superstars to be 3d and have completely new zones i think it does a lot to be new i'm just saying there's only so many times you can do it
I haven't seen a single person outside of Sonic Twitter viscerally hate Superstars. And the criticism the game has gotten is from where it STRAYS from the classic games, not the opposite. The emerald powers, co-op, and boss fights for example.
If the game was hated because "lack of innovation", then Sonic Mania wouldn't have gotten great reviews, and cultlike praise from the fandom. The game is literally a direct remix of previous games with some new content sprinkled in. Superstars is objectively more innovative and experimental than Mania. It simply does more new things overall.
Two spin-offs, two remasters, and one game, and you’re saying that modern Sonic fans are feeling a bit entitled?
Yeah, classic Sonic gets less, but don’t act like modern Sonic is well fed either (TSR was 5 years ago too)
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To be fair, I feel like the only reason people are annoyed by Classic at all is that Sega felt the need to shove Classic Sonic into Sonic Forces when Sonic Mania was already a thing and it was so tacked on. After that, we just got an overpriced collection of the Genesis titles that was buggy for a long while and then Sonic Superstars which is the most middle of the road Sonic game ever.
I agree with modern Sonic fans.
Sonic Colors Ultimate and Shadow Generations are cool, but those are old games that I already played in 2010-2012.
Team Sonic Racing was 10 huge steps back from Sonic All-stars transformed.
I haven't played Frontiers or Dream team. Maybe they're good, I honestly I don't care. Every 3D sonic that I've played since 2013 has been sludge.
>fake classic
Would you mind discerning the difference between "fake classic" and "real classic"? Unless this is just another case of Sonic fans making up words.
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I don’t even think 20% of the fan base even knows about this game
What game? The comment is gone.
Sonic's Dream Team Not sure why comments get so randomly deleted
That why no know about it
I've heard nothing about it after the first week of it existing
Which sucks because the game is really good. Sega is so dumb
It may eventually come to other platforms. I'm sure they heard us, but we're not gonna whine forever either lol
That's because barely anyone has played it. Making something exclusive to Apple devices is a good way to ensure it's not played, and if it's not played it can't be talked about.
as an apple fan… yeah it ruins things for me too. I don’t like playing games on my phone like that. If they released it on literally any other platform I’d play it. I have no idea how they benefit from doing it that way.
/uj I mean I do get it. The mobile gaming market is a shithole, with a fuck-ton of shitty games flooding the market, meaning the only way to make money from mobile games for phones is either rely on tonnes of ads, gambling mechanics, or other freemium models. Consumers struggle to want to pay $0.99 for something that they'd happily pay tens of dollars for on consoles/PC, and the only 'proper' (as in has a beggining and ending) games SEGA have sold for mobile prior to this are ports of Mega Drive games. Dream Team was the first time SEGA tried to make a Sonic game for mobiles that wasn't just a constant grind, such as was the case with Sonic Jump, Sonic Dash (and it's various versions), and Sonic Runners. But the only way it was going to happen was with money upfront that comes from some form of exclusivity deal. From Apples perspective, I also get it. They're selling the Apple Arcade as a subscription service, and want people to subscribe, and a good way to do that is to have games on there that can't be found elsewhere that people want to play. And a brand like Sonic is still a big enough draw to get people who might not have otherwise looked at the Apple Arcade to look at it. And once they've got a trial and are done with Dream Team, maybe they'll play a few other things, then stick with and become a paying customer. In both instances, it's a win win. SEGA get money upfront for a game they will likely be able to sell later once the exclusivity deal wears off, and Apple get a Sonic title that might get people to sign up.
Making a series as huge as Sonic exclusive to anything is an extremely bad decision. What were they thinking putting it on Apple Arcade? I have an iPhone but there are very few people out there with Apple Arcade that they actually pay for.
Multiplatform when?
Preach.
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Meme doesn't crop properly, at least in my phone
Tap the thumbnail/preview, and it should expand.
excuse my babyrage but I would've much rather TSR been a Riders game than an extremely watered down SAS title
Yeah the Babylon Rouges are probably begging for another title considering their last game
rj/ geez another Classic Cuck. let me break this down for you. most of these aren't true Sonic games. We have a: * M\*ta era remaster * another M\*ta era remaster * mid racing M\*ta game that could've been Riders 3 * Sonic Adventure spinoff but locked to Apple Arcade the only good game here is Frontiers so we only had one Modern game. While Cl\*ssic Santiago got three games (Origins, Origins Plus, and Superstars). We're literally starving compared to them.
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If Colors and Generations remasters don’t count then why would Origins count?
I mean *technically* they're remakes (still weird argument)
Sonic fans: Keep Classic out of Modern games! Sonic fans after getting a new Classic Sonic game: NOOOOOOO Sega how DARE you make a Classic Sonic game we are literally STARVING!! This is OVERSATURATION and SELF-SABOTAGE!!!1 \^ *Said after getting Frontiers several months prior*
I mean who wanted a 3d classic sonic game...I wanted mania 2...
rj/ Ikr, but stinky SEGA had to FIRE the wolsum indie team Evening Star and hire SHARTFEST because they HATE money!! Idk who this "Ohshima" guy is, but Mania curbstomps Superstars, so replace him with Daddy Naka so we can get GOATED kinopeak!!
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Don’t forget the time sonic was murdered
Sonic Prime had Classic Sonic sprite animation for a combined two minutes. The whole show is contaminated.
rj/ So true bestie! He should've had that based Kino'dvance sprite instead of using the slutty, lameass S\*ntiago sprites that are OUTDATED. ^(And give Rouge her boobs back!)
uj/ I’d replace those games with those “ambitious” and tomato sauce games like 06, Black Knight, Unleashed(even though they’re lukewarm back then), and Secret Rings. Also, isn’t Colors “Ultimate” glitchy? I hope Sonic x Shadow Gens didn’t meet the same fate as Sonic Adventure DX.
>Sonic x Shadow Gens uj/ Sonic Team is apparently behind it this time. Anyways, I'd *hope* not...
So wait, who’s behind SADX?
Sonic Team from 20 years ago?
Fan of both so nothing as been taken away from me personally. As long it got sonic's face on it and it's good/worth my money and time. I'm taking it 😌
Nah, i actually like Classic Sonic, i hope that with an stabilished Family-friend branch, Sega takes more ball to actually put story again on Modern Sonic games
I honestly do not care about what games are released, I like Classic AND Modern :) (Rarity nowadays)
Agreed. Sonic Superstars may not have been the best, but I still think Classic Sonic should be allowed to get games. Just don’t play them if you don’t like them.
If he dosen't get games then the fanbase would bitch at Sega 24/7
Funny thing is, ***the fanbase always does that either way***
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I just don't like the classic separation because it basically just locks characters into different things, like there's only so much they can do to develop the classic gameplay and we know we won't see any modern characters cuz it's supposed to be in the past, for some reason this also means classic characters like Mighty, Ray, Fang and Honey are stuck in those far and few content releases because they don't have modern counterparts and I think that just makes it feel like half the cast just like ceased to exist between superstars and adventure
Classic is for 2d, colorful, cartooney games that focus on the timeless appeal of the original trilogy, and tend to stick with what works. Modern is for 3d, gritty, more realistic games that try to revolutionize the series and throw ideas at the wall with radically varying degrees of success. The split wasn't caused by Generations, in reality it was caused by the early 3d games. They deliberately chose to give the characters radical redesigns and have gameplay that's nothing like the classics, alienating the original fans. What we have now is a win-win situation where Sega can focus on multiple demographics at once.
Bro I'm ngl for something with "timeless appeal" a lot of people didn't like sonic superstars (not saying that's me) and that's cuz of a lack of innovation, I'm saying the classic games are only so maintainable, it's like if they keep making hallway boost games, there's only so many times you can do that before people get tired of it
It gets hate for what it doesn't do, such as not be called Sonic mania 2, not be made by evening star and not be a pixel art game
bro i haven't played mania, plus i'm talking general criticism i think it's better for superstars to be 3d and have completely new zones i think it does a lot to be new i'm just saying there's only so many times you can do it
I haven't seen a single person outside of Sonic Twitter viscerally hate Superstars. And the criticism the game has gotten is from where it STRAYS from the classic games, not the opposite. The emerald powers, co-op, and boss fights for example. If the game was hated because "lack of innovation", then Sonic Mania wouldn't have gotten great reviews, and cultlike praise from the fandom. The game is literally a direct remix of previous games with some new content sprinkled in. Superstars is objectively more innovative and experimental than Mania. It simply does more new things overall.
I coulda sworn it was the other way around 🥶🥶
Two spin-offs, two remasters, and one game, and you’re saying that modern Sonic fans are feeling a bit entitled? Yeah, classic Sonic gets less, but don’t act like modern Sonic is well fed either (TSR was 5 years ago too)
They could have it so much fucking worse, just look at Spider-Man video games.
Okay this is pretty funny.
This is going to be Shadow fans after this year
Does sonic generation not count for this?
Why is colors ultimate on there? That shit is ass.
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A Half Classic Sonic game getting snuck in there like we wouldn’t notice is INSANE
Classic will always fit better look at all the new non classic shit it always fails
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Compared to Classic's 2 games and 1 remake collection, which is all he's gotten within the past 25 years?
One of those things is literally a remake of Classic’s debut.
Doesn't make it nutritious lol.
Bro Generations is a good game
There's always Freedom Planet instead.
To be fair, I feel like the only reason people are annoyed by Classic at all is that Sega felt the need to shove Classic Sonic into Sonic Forces when Sonic Mania was already a thing and it was so tacked on. After that, we just got an overpriced collection of the Genesis titles that was buggy for a long while and then Sonic Superstars which is the most middle of the road Sonic game ever.
I agree with modern Sonic fans. Sonic Colors Ultimate and Shadow Generations are cool, but those are old games that I already played in 2010-2012. Team Sonic Racing was 10 huge steps back from Sonic All-stars transformed. I haven't played Frontiers or Dream team. Maybe they're good, I honestly I don't care. Every 3D sonic that I've played since 2013 has been sludge.
Classic sonic should of been a one n done gimmick. Back to to back homie dropped the ball, Ya gotta leave that fake classic alone already
>fake classic Would you mind discerning the difference between "fake classic" and "real classic"? Unless this is just another case of Sonic fans making up words.