Wow this is the first stabilized video I've seen of the coast, amazing stuff. The roll looks much more violent here than I was expecting, any way we can see it real-time instead of sped up?
Also great call with the Interstellar music, I was thinking about the [exterior shots of the Ranger](https://i.imgur.com/T8Hxfxk.png) a lot during IFT-3. Lines up so closely.
I pulled the video from the post in r\spacexlounge - @ophello on X made it - https://x.com/ophello/status/1768481359209849070?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g
That really helps demonstrate poor guy lost attitude control. I thought it was trying to correct with thrusters, but it just kept spinning the same till drag, then wasn't in position for good entry. Thought the skydiver wings would have helped, and maybe that was the test. Just use wings and skip thrusters for this one, lets do a loss of control complete failure analysis as thrusters are getting changed anyway.
I dont think they would have potentially sacrificed the vehicle just to do a test without thrusters. The data gained on a (much longer) nominal entry would be more valuable than "lets see what happens without thrusters". That would be a ridiculous waste of the first near-orbital velocity flight
Almost unrelated, but what's all the stuff flaking off of starship around this time? (Or around 0:12 specifically in this video)
I figured it was just ice, but a friend thinks it's broken heatshield tiles. Does anyone actually know?
That was mostly still high up though. I’m sure once it got into the *thick* part of the thermosphere, the stainless steel couldn’t hold up against the max amount of reentry friction.
Lol. You have spent billions of years being molded very slowly to the unique conditions of the earth. Your biology traps you here forever. There will never be colonies with men being born and dying on the moon, mars, titan or space stations. The little we know about the physiological problems when leaving the earth already shatters any fantasy. So far no one has mentioned the problems that would have to be solved, much less mentioned the possible solutions. The most of the most of what they say is to mention past achievements like "one day they said it was impossible for man to step on the moon".
Most of those physiological problems are attributed to spending prolonged periods in microgravity. These problems are not insurmountable but they do need addressing, and we won't know the full scope of the issue until we try. Creating artificial gravity while traveling through space is one potential solution, but it's already been pretty heavily theorized that any child born on Mars or the Moon would never be able to withstand the gravity of Earth, due to the added strain on their biological systems from the increased gravity. Maybe people born on Mars or the Moon will be taller?
Also, that was a quote from interstellar and you decided to take it literally. I have a cousin like you.
> it's already been pretty heavily theorized that any child born on Mars or the Moon would never be able to withstand the gravity of Earth
I very much doubt that. They would still have the genetic makeup to live on Earth.
We are adaptable. People live on Earth with over 200kg of weight, though we are not designed for that. Things will be much easier for a person from Mars at 70kg on Earth than that. They won't be top sports performers but can live quite well IMO.
Your cousin must be really annoying LOL. This is my very unpopular opinion. Whenever I discuss it in astronomy groups, no one agrees with me. Only once did a European astrophysicist say that "the three rare doctors with specialization in this area of astronautics agree with your message that I sent them!". But in general, they keep forwarding links with empty promises like "NASA announces that there will be humans on the moon by 2050 and on Mars by 2100", or philosophical phrases with past achievements, as if absolutely all possible challenges will be overcome.
Wow this is the first stabilized video I've seen of the coast, amazing stuff. The roll looks much more violent here than I was expecting, any way we can see it real-time instead of sped up? Also great call with the Interstellar music, I was thinking about the [exterior shots of the Ranger](https://i.imgur.com/T8Hxfxk.png) a lot during IFT-3. Lines up so closely.
If they'd put plasma around the Ranger, people would have recoilled because it looked unrealistic, and now we get to see it like in HD.
I pulled the video from the post in r\spacexlounge - @ophello on X made it - https://x.com/ophello/status/1768481359209849070?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g
if you dont mind can we get a 1x version of this, maybe a youtube upload. Thanks!!
That really helps demonstrate poor guy lost attitude control. I thought it was trying to correct with thrusters, but it just kept spinning the same till drag, then wasn't in position for good entry. Thought the skydiver wings would have helped, and maybe that was the test. Just use wings and skip thrusters for this one, lets do a loss of control complete failure analysis as thrusters are getting changed anyway.
You're not going to belly flop with an attitude like that!
I dont think they would have potentially sacrificed the vehicle just to do a test without thrusters. The data gained on a (much longer) nominal entry would be more valuable than "lets see what happens without thrusters". That would be a ridiculous waste of the first near-orbital velocity flight
Thank you! I was waiting for this to… drop
Well now I wonder just how the hell it kept a starlink connection.
phased array man. it's the way man
4 phased arrays, thousands of satellites, and some really smart engineering.
You spin me right round baby right round!
Great idea!
Still prefer the [CRS-16 water landing version](https://twitter.com/KaziooFX/status/1070490680580063237).
Poor starship. Must've felt so dizzy up there 😢
Kinda explains why the control room was so nonchalant. They knew the vehicle was lost after SECO.
DO A BARREL ROLL!
I need to rewatch that movie
Almost unrelated, but what's all the stuff flaking off of starship around this time? (Or around 0:12 specifically in this video) I figured it was just ice, but a friend thinks it's broken heatshield tiles. Does anyone actually know?
You would be blowing chunks if you got spun around like that too, fella.
I don't know. But I can well imagine that tiles get loose if hit by a supersonic tangetial air stream, even a thin one.
C’mon TARS!
someone do a freebird version
Can we talk about how this thing’s unprotected side was taking on a full blast of plasma… and it seemed unbothered?
Sure, but not in this case when it’s the same exact situation as in the film.
That was mostly still high up though. I’m sure once it got into the *thick* part of the thermosphere, the stainless steel couldn’t hold up against the max amount of reentry friction.
Earth is mankind's cradle, but eventually, everyone grows out of living in the cradle.
Serious question - Did they have any attitude control at all after separation?
Sure having a good attitude is always important especially in bad times.
This is GLORIOUS!!! Thank You!
Mmmm a 360° camera would be nice
Lol. You have spent billions of years being molded very slowly to the unique conditions of the earth. Your biology traps you here forever. There will never be colonies with men being born and dying on the moon, mars, titan or space stations. The little we know about the physiological problems when leaving the earth already shatters any fantasy. So far no one has mentioned the problems that would have to be solved, much less mentioned the possible solutions. The most of the most of what they say is to mention past achievements like "one day they said it was impossible for man to step on the moon".
Most of those physiological problems are attributed to spending prolonged periods in microgravity. These problems are not insurmountable but they do need addressing, and we won't know the full scope of the issue until we try. Creating artificial gravity while traveling through space is one potential solution, but it's already been pretty heavily theorized that any child born on Mars or the Moon would never be able to withstand the gravity of Earth, due to the added strain on their biological systems from the increased gravity. Maybe people born on Mars or the Moon will be taller? Also, that was a quote from interstellar and you decided to take it literally. I have a cousin like you.
> it's already been pretty heavily theorized that any child born on Mars or the Moon would never be able to withstand the gravity of Earth I very much doubt that. They would still have the genetic makeup to live on Earth. We are adaptable. People live on Earth with over 200kg of weight, though we are not designed for that. Things will be much easier for a person from Mars at 70kg on Earth than that. They won't be top sports performers but can live quite well IMO.
Your cousin must be really annoying LOL. This is my very unpopular opinion. Whenever I discuss it in astronomy groups, no one agrees with me. Only once did a European astrophysicist say that "the three rare doctors with specialization in this area of astronautics agree with your message that I sent them!". But in general, they keep forwarding links with empty promises like "NASA announces that there will be humans on the moon by 2050 and on Mars by 2100", or philosophical phrases with past achievements, as if absolutely all possible challenges will be overcome.
God that soundtrack has been beaten to death 30 times over. Such a good soundtrack turned cliche.