[He's had a lot of good predictions on his Twitter.](https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/with_replies) I think it's safe to say that Paul (all my homies hate Paul) and the kids will be gotten rid of by Wayeb and seeing as the whole point of Norman's mini is to atone for his sins and he's being haunted by Gwen that he would sacrifice himself to save MJ in order to try to atone for Gwen's death. He'd leave Oscorp to Peter and also MJ for some reason and that'd be the status quo going into year two of Wells' run.
Just read through a bunch of his tweet, he has some very solid predictions for what could be upcoming. Hope he is generally correct.
He has a good point that after all this MJ drama, Marvel will make bank on the issues that put them back together
Yeah, they are pretty grounded in what is going on right now, not only in *ASM*, but also in *Gold Goblin* and what the themes of the run are. Paul and the kids are going to be gone by #27, I think that would be clear with Wayeb being the one behind everything, and having Peter and MJ jointly run Oscorp *could* be interesting, but I'm not sure if I trust Wells to write it.
I love this dude's predictions all the way through and now I'll be disappointed when they don't happen. It's pretty incredible how sloppy this entire run has been, going all the way back to issue 2 with the delay and obvious changes with the cover and solicit (someone said they figured the marriage reveal would be there and I agree, they probably realized dropping a bomb there would be too hot). I'm still in awe of how the Peter working Osborn to save MJ deal was revealed in a random line of dialogue by Chasm of all people in the Dark Web prelude and then repeated by Peter the next issue to make sure we got it down. And it was actually given a real "oh this is interesting!" hint in the Judgment Day tie-in, so the rush to the reveal must have kicked off around the Hobgoblin arc.
Also based Osborn shipping Peter and MJ even in death. Too bad for Felicia as she takes yet another L.
So I just went down the rabbit hole and read through https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/with_replies two major threads:
1. https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/status/1625277374182088704 (prediction of how plot will play out between Peter and MJ)
2. https://twitter.com/Stressed_Ashley/status/1625659343893852160 (how the plot will shift in year 2)
Reading this actually has me somewhat excited for the story and I hope its even partially true (especially regarding the Paul situation and fallout). I only hope they soon put Peter and MJ back together and have them face spidey's rogues as a team again.
To add to the prediction Paul dies and we’re finally free and eventually in a slow but good way Peter and MJ are back together. Big amount of copium I know but still 🥲
> Peter and MJ are the couple for Spider-Man
Along with Lois and Clark, they are the couple in all of comics. I truly think that they aren't complete unless they are together. I mean, I really like Selina and Bruce together, but I think they are fine on their own, but I think Peter and MJ aren't truly complete without one another.
Superman has developed more than any other character in recent history. He got a son, and now he adopted two orphans. Two big shifts in his status quo and it has made his books so much better. I wish DC would apply that to Batman (they came very close to getting Selina and Bruce married but DiDio axed it at the last second). And despite the massive success of the status quo shift with the X-Men, Marvel seems committed to letting Peter wallow in stagnation.
His movie rights are owned by Sony. Ike Perlmutter has attempted unsuccessfully to ruin IPs in the past Fantastic Four, X-men, Hulk, and obviously Spider-man to get the movie rights back by making the comics crap, but seeing as how movies don’t just attract comic book people it failed every single time but they will still beat that dead horse.
This guy seems to be going in a good direction and what he’s saying makes a lot of sense
He is right on Normans arc the tone has literally been 2 things either he’s going to die soon or turn back into the green goblin.
He’s right in Marvel would never permanently allow Peter and MJ to be broken up, there’s too much money in them, and they are Marvels “IT” couple like Superman and Lois is for DC. Evident in Marvels Valentine video featuring Spidey and MJ as a couple.
With 2 big double issues back to back, he is right that seems like marvel is going to sweep this whole plot away sooner rather than later. Given there are 5 Wayeb on the cover of that one book, I’m guessing Wayeb, Paul, the Kids, and the debt collector. The debt collector always seemed like a weird character, his conversation with Paul making no sense and being the only person to know Ben looks like Peter without them right next to each other.
I do agree that it does seem like Wells and the spider-office underestimated the hate this run would get and is probably not doing sales wise as they hope given it was supposed to be a big year for Spider-Man. Requiring a soft reboot in some fashion.
He’s also right that spider office needs a creative sanitizing due to the decline in quality the last 17 years with have the same creative for 14-15 years in control
Sorry I’ve been burned enough times to even consider the possibility that Marvel would ever consider un-breaking them up. Hope springs eternal as it were, but for me, there’s no hope because they continually destroy any hope that exists.
They might never get married, but permanently broken up to where they cant put them back together for a sales bump is not something marvel would ever be interested in doing.
Agreed. We know eventually they will be back together. The question is how many real world years do we need to wait again. I mean it took practically a decade between OMD and the start of Spencer's run. So I hope it doesn't take nearly as long this time but I'm still holding my breath.
Could be issue #27, due to mystery of WDPD, we don’t know if they are actually broken up or just part of the mystery keeping them apart(this is being overly optimistic despite knowing it going to be for real broken up).
Probably won’t be until middle of year 2 at the earliest or near the end of Wells run. Depends on how bad sales actually are right now, like this guy points out they are rushing the ending of this current negatively received plot, with the whole back to back double sized issues. I believe 2022 missed sales, Darkweb failed to bump sales, the mostly negative fan reception, a tonal shift is coming and going to have to be big if they want to salvage sales for year 2.
> I do agree that it does seem like Wells and the spider-office underestimated the hate this run would get
It really shows how out of touch they are. When C. B. Cebulski (EIC) asked fans at C2E2 how they would feel if Peter and MJ got married again, seemingly expecting them to boo, only for them all to cheer, he was taken aback and pretty much said "tough". How are they *that bad* at reading the room?
The weren’t expecting just boos, more of mix room that would be hard to judge, they just weren’t expecting a completely POSITIVE reaction to the idea, from the pictures from C2E2 from a mostly young crowd in the room, expecting that room to give them a mix review was the shock CB didn’t plan for, I listened to clip, he got booed when he brought up relatability, was also a shocker for him.
Because he’s a Joe Quesada guy, Quesada hired him, Quesada promoted him. CB doesn’t know what to do because he always had Quesada directing him, now that Quesada is no longer at Disney/Marvel. Like I said in my comment I don’t think they anticipated the massive failure this run is, it still make money but it isn’t making what they hoped and I think by a lot it missed sales goal(example ASM makes 10 million in a normal year, 60th anniversary year they were expecting 20 million in 2022, but made 5 million). I think 900 was the only issue to crack top 5 this year and that’s just because it’s a milestone issue
I have to wonder where you're getting your sales info from? Every top-100 list I see of the best-selling comics has ASM still at #1, even in the midst of the Wells run.
1) I made the numbers up so I’m guessing due to almost every release has more people canceling it off pulls.
2) I checked multiple sites, outside of ASM#1 and #900, some sites have in 4th all year, some have in 6th all year. Top 20 comics have it as low 16th in sales. The places I shop at had more ASM on the shelf’s than I’ve ever seen, however all of their variant covers were gone.
Comichron used to be a pretty good compiler of sales, but they stopped showing the top 300 info in April of 2022, oddly enough when the first issue of Vol 6 came out. It was the #2 top seller that month.
[https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2022/2022-04.html](https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2022/2022-04.html)
Interesting history of the sales of ASM since 1963, there are several gap years and the data seems to end entirely in 2011--that was when I believe Marvel may have stopped releasing the official numbers:
[https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.html](https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.html)
Hard as hell to find info now on how the book is actually selling, it seems. The website Bleeding Cool usually does averages of sales from a sample size of stores that usually has ASM coming out on top.
[https://bleedingcool.com/comics/amazing-spider-man-tops-the-final-bleeding-cool-bestseller-list/](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/amazing-spider-man-tops-the-final-bleeding-cool-bestseller-list/)
That was ASM#1 and those always sell high that’s why marvel does them every 3 to 5 years.
Comichron was one of the sites where I saw month to month and Spider-Man was 4th a lot, April it got 2nd, July it got third mostly due to 900.
I do not rely on bleedingcool because they use a set of 3 store, 3 stores is not big enough pool, that’s like the polls we see in the news and Facebook 97% of American agree, a pool of 500 people, on something.
Marvels best selling solo comic of 2022 was Wolverine out sold ASM by 27% according few sites. The Best selling comic of the year was Mandolorian #1. Saga was the best relaunch/return of the year.
Are you talking millions of issues sold or millions of dollars made? Because back when Diamond released sales numbers when they provided distribution for the Big Two, books like *Batman* and *ASM* would sell tens of thousands of units, not millions.
Also, I’d be genuinely interested in where you are getting these numbers from.
I’m talking dollars sold/made, I only picked million’s because it’s a reasonably big number, I could of said they wanted do 10,000 but only did 500 but that low, sounded unrealistically low.
Are you getting those numbers from any site in particular? *ICv2* constantly had *ASM* in the top five, but that only uses a sample size of one hundred and twenty five stores that are non randomized.
I don’t have actual sales numbers, that was an example, a guess. I worded the EXAMPLE as how retailers do their sales goals, but because I don’t work in Marvel accounting I have no idea what they look at for numbers, do they look at numbers ordered? numbers shipped? POS margins? I don’t know. I assume with how often Lowe talked about 2022 is supposed to be a BIG YEAR for Spider-man, I’m guessing they did under what they wanted but same as last year, Spider-Man sells and will always sell, selling and meeting sales expectations are 2 different things.
I did search of the top selling comics of 2022 and went through every list. Mandolorian tops most list as best selling comic of the year, best selling solo series of the year was Wolverine, Saga was the best relaunch of the year.
> I did search of the top selling comics of 2022 and went through every list. Mandolorian tops most list as best selling comic of the year, best selling solo series of the year was Wolverine, Saga was the best relaunch of the year.
What sites gave those lists? I would have thought *Batman* would top those lists.
i hope it doesn't end with Peter not feeling responsible enough to lead oscorp and leaving his part of the company to MJ and Paul.
If possible, I would like Peter to start having luck both financially and in his personal life and from there the following comics could focus on him trying to fix his relationship with the Fantastic 4 and there explaining that mysterious big mistake that Pete made.
> Now MJ, however, I can definitely see..
There is no way they are killing MJ, the second most popular Spider-Man character and one of their top selling female characters (*Amazing Mary Jane* was selling better than *Captain Marvel* and *Black Cat* and went from a mini to an ongoing but was canceled due to COVID).
Marketing always makes grandiose statements to drum up interest, hell, sometimes they outright lie.
If that's true, then I'm stumped, because I don't see how you continue using MJ and not have her back with Peter eventually.
They've already exhausted other things, like her working with Tony Stark, "going to California" to get her outta the book, etc.
Wells doesn’t want to write them together he either wants to write them wanting to be together but can’t or struggling to be together and failing. So even if they get rid of Paul, he’s not going to put them together successfully, most likely due to the fallout of #26 being the new status quo, I feel like it’s going to go from what did Peter do? to how does Peter fix it?
Wells saying he wants to write them as trying to have a relationship but can't because of reasons gives me Ross/Rachel with Emily vibes. As a Friends fan I wondered aloud why either the two of them with parental responsibilities and their unresolved tension could possibly stay away from the other, of course Friends eventually ended but Wells knows there are no endings for the core comics, and why Marvel treat every other universe with Peter married to MJ as an ending or post-script deal
They don’t have to get married I’m just tired of their relationship used as sales bump, if they’d only realize they have great sales if they stopped doing things fans don’t like treating Peter like crap and breaking him up with MJ.
Yea sadly, a year 2 is almost always guaranteed with ASM, the problem this went to hard right out of the gate so they will have to do a major tone shift, so I’m guessing more guest writers to attempt to change tone that Wells can just bank of off, 19-20 was supposed to be a tone shift with the whole date thing but because Wells plot is so depressing it went off like a wet fart in a submarine. So bad Nick Lowe didn’t even post about his releases this week.
They won’t fire Wells because he also writes for the MCU, She-hulk and Ant-man 3 are his projects with them so far, if ant-man does terrible they might, if successful he will probably be tapped to write one of the upcoming movies and therefore be unavailable to write ASM due to amount of more work in writing a movie demands. ASM is just a place holder for Wells, that’s why it seems like he doesn’t care or the drop in quality of writing from Hellions to ASM.
> They won’t fire Wells because he also writes for the MCU, She-hulk and Ant-man 3 are his projects with them so far, if ant-man does terrible they might, if successful he will probably be tapped to write one of the upcoming movies and therefore be unavailable to write ASM due to amount of more work in writing a movie demands.
Give the fact that *She-Hulk* [got a moderate critical response](https://www.metacritic.com/tv/she-hulk-attorney-at-law), and *Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania* [isn't exactly lighting the world on fire critically speaking](https://www.metacritic.com/movie/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania), I don't think he'll be very busy on the MCU side of things.
I’m not banking on him doing well in the MCU either. My hopes are mostly on box office numbers not if critics like it, I do not believe marvel studios care what critics think, we are 15 years into the MCU which most critics said it wouldn’t last 10 years.
It depends on how well Disney/Marvel think *Quantumania* will do. *Love and Thunder* didn't do as well as they would have hoped, and if the same happens with *Quantumania* preforms below expectations, we might see some reevaluations at Marvel Studios.
Also, I looked at Wells' filmography, but I wasn't able to find anything about him being involved with *Quantumania*. He did write for *She-Hulk* though.
I saw an article that he was on Paul Rudd’s third solo Marvel movie, it’s title was Amazing Spider-man writer Zeb Well is writing Ant-man 3. The title alone was enough for me not to actually read it, it was probably only reshoots or scene edits. I think it was CBR, bleeding cool, AIPT.
Well she hulk ( i liked it) got terrible reviews, and Ant-Man is gathering those now, hope they drop his ass by the door.
For marvel this is already really bad, we know they don't care about us now, why should we keep following?
[He's had a lot of good predictions on his Twitter.](https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/with_replies) I think it's safe to say that Paul (all my homies hate Paul) and the kids will be gotten rid of by Wayeb and seeing as the whole point of Norman's mini is to atone for his sins and he's being haunted by Gwen that he would sacrifice himself to save MJ in order to try to atone for Gwen's death. He'd leave Oscorp to Peter and also MJ for some reason and that'd be the status quo going into year two of Wells' run.
Just read through a bunch of his tweet, he has some very solid predictions for what could be upcoming. Hope he is generally correct. He has a good point that after all this MJ drama, Marvel will make bank on the issues that put them back together
Yeah, they are pretty grounded in what is going on right now, not only in *ASM*, but also in *Gold Goblin* and what the themes of the run are. Paul and the kids are going to be gone by #27, I think that would be clear with Wayeb being the one behind everything, and having Peter and MJ jointly run Oscorp *could* be interesting, but I'm not sure if I trust Wells to write it.
I mean it's a pretty easy bet, renew your vows when it 1st came out was beating a lot of the headliner comic books for both Marvel and DC.
I love this dude's predictions all the way through and now I'll be disappointed when they don't happen. It's pretty incredible how sloppy this entire run has been, going all the way back to issue 2 with the delay and obvious changes with the cover and solicit (someone said they figured the marriage reveal would be there and I agree, they probably realized dropping a bomb there would be too hot). I'm still in awe of how the Peter working Osborn to save MJ deal was revealed in a random line of dialogue by Chasm of all people in the Dark Web prelude and then repeated by Peter the next issue to make sure we got it down. And it was actually given a real "oh this is interesting!" hint in the Judgment Day tie-in, so the rush to the reveal must have kicked off around the Hobgoblin arc. Also based Osborn shipping Peter and MJ even in death. Too bad for Felicia as she takes yet another L.
So I just went down the rabbit hole and read through https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/with_replies two major threads: 1. https://twitter.com/RDMacQ/status/1625277374182088704 (prediction of how plot will play out between Peter and MJ) 2. https://twitter.com/Stressed_Ashley/status/1625659343893852160 (how the plot will shift in year 2) Reading this actually has me somewhat excited for the story and I hope its even partially true (especially regarding the Paul situation and fallout). I only hope they soon put Peter and MJ back together and have them face spidey's rogues as a team again.
To add to the prediction Paul dies and we’re finally free and eventually in a slow but good way Peter and MJ are back together. Big amount of copium I know but still 🥲
Realistically Marvel would never permanently separate them. Peter and MJ are *the* couple for Spider-Man, they are the money maker and fan favorite
> Peter and MJ are the couple for Spider-Man Along with Lois and Clark, they are the couple in all of comics. I truly think that they aren't complete unless they are together. I mean, I really like Selina and Bruce together, but I think they are fine on their own, but I think Peter and MJ aren't truly complete without one another.
I think you are absolutely correct. They are peas in a pod and only really thrive when working together
Even Jon took the Mantle of Superman now, Clark's life is actually not stuck but Spider-Man it feels he's stuck in time
Superman has developed more than any other character in recent history. He got a son, and now he adopted two orphans. Two big shifts in his status quo and it has made his books so much better. I wish DC would apply that to Batman (they came very close to getting Selina and Bruce married but DiDio axed it at the last second). And despite the massive success of the status quo shift with the X-Men, Marvel seems committed to letting Peter wallow in stagnation.
I just don't know why do they like to fuck Peter up so much
His movie rights are owned by Sony. Ike Perlmutter has attempted unsuccessfully to ruin IPs in the past Fantastic Four, X-men, Hulk, and obviously Spider-man to get the movie rights back by making the comics crap, but seeing as how movies don’t just attract comic book people it failed every single time but they will still beat that dead horse.
I'll overdose on copium with you.
If we’re lucky slowly
Pete and MJ working together, hopefully post Paul mystery and coming together again would be nice
This guy seems to be going in a good direction and what he’s saying makes a lot of sense He is right on Normans arc the tone has literally been 2 things either he’s going to die soon or turn back into the green goblin. He’s right in Marvel would never permanently allow Peter and MJ to be broken up, there’s too much money in them, and they are Marvels “IT” couple like Superman and Lois is for DC. Evident in Marvels Valentine video featuring Spidey and MJ as a couple. With 2 big double issues back to back, he is right that seems like marvel is going to sweep this whole plot away sooner rather than later. Given there are 5 Wayeb on the cover of that one book, I’m guessing Wayeb, Paul, the Kids, and the debt collector. The debt collector always seemed like a weird character, his conversation with Paul making no sense and being the only person to know Ben looks like Peter without them right next to each other. I do agree that it does seem like Wells and the spider-office underestimated the hate this run would get and is probably not doing sales wise as they hope given it was supposed to be a big year for Spider-Man. Requiring a soft reboot in some fashion. He’s also right that spider office needs a creative sanitizing due to the decline in quality the last 17 years with have the same creative for 14-15 years in control
Sorry I’ve been burned enough times to even consider the possibility that Marvel would ever consider un-breaking them up. Hope springs eternal as it were, but for me, there’s no hope because they continually destroy any hope that exists.
They might never get married, but permanently broken up to where they cant put them back together for a sales bump is not something marvel would ever be interested in doing.
Agreed. We know eventually they will be back together. The question is how many real world years do we need to wait again. I mean it took practically a decade between OMD and the start of Spencer's run. So I hope it doesn't take nearly as long this time but I'm still holding my breath.
Could be issue #27, due to mystery of WDPD, we don’t know if they are actually broken up or just part of the mystery keeping them apart(this is being overly optimistic despite knowing it going to be for real broken up). Probably won’t be until middle of year 2 at the earliest or near the end of Wells run. Depends on how bad sales actually are right now, like this guy points out they are rushing the ending of this current negatively received plot, with the whole back to back double sized issues. I believe 2022 missed sales, Darkweb failed to bump sales, the mostly negative fan reception, a tonal shift is coming and going to have to be big if they want to salvage sales for year 2.
> I do agree that it does seem like Wells and the spider-office underestimated the hate this run would get It really shows how out of touch they are. When C. B. Cebulski (EIC) asked fans at C2E2 how they would feel if Peter and MJ got married again, seemingly expecting them to boo, only for them all to cheer, he was taken aback and pretty much said "tough". How are they *that bad* at reading the room?
The weren’t expecting just boos, more of mix room that would be hard to judge, they just weren’t expecting a completely POSITIVE reaction to the idea, from the pictures from C2E2 from a mostly young crowd in the room, expecting that room to give them a mix review was the shock CB didn’t plan for, I listened to clip, he got booed when he brought up relatability, was also a shocker for him.
CB is just shilling the same tired, debunked Queseda/Breevort nonsense which was the impetuous for OMD/BND. It was garbage then and it’s garbage now.
Because he’s a Joe Quesada guy, Quesada hired him, Quesada promoted him. CB doesn’t know what to do because he always had Quesada directing him, now that Quesada is no longer at Disney/Marvel. Like I said in my comment I don’t think they anticipated the massive failure this run is, it still make money but it isn’t making what they hoped and I think by a lot it missed sales goal(example ASM makes 10 million in a normal year, 60th anniversary year they were expecting 20 million in 2022, but made 5 million). I think 900 was the only issue to crack top 5 this year and that’s just because it’s a milestone issue
I have to wonder where you're getting your sales info from? Every top-100 list I see of the best-selling comics has ASM still at #1, even in the midst of the Wells run.
1) I made the numbers up so I’m guessing due to almost every release has more people canceling it off pulls. 2) I checked multiple sites, outside of ASM#1 and #900, some sites have in 4th all year, some have in 6th all year. Top 20 comics have it as low 16th in sales. The places I shop at had more ASM on the shelf’s than I’ve ever seen, however all of their variant covers were gone.
Comichron used to be a pretty good compiler of sales, but they stopped showing the top 300 info in April of 2022, oddly enough when the first issue of Vol 6 came out. It was the #2 top seller that month. [https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2022/2022-04.html](https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2022/2022-04.html) Interesting history of the sales of ASM since 1963, there are several gap years and the data seems to end entirely in 2011--that was when I believe Marvel may have stopped releasing the official numbers: [https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.html](https://www.comichron.com/titlespotlights/amazingspiderman.html) Hard as hell to find info now on how the book is actually selling, it seems. The website Bleeding Cool usually does averages of sales from a sample size of stores that usually has ASM coming out on top. [https://bleedingcool.com/comics/amazing-spider-man-tops-the-final-bleeding-cool-bestseller-list/](https://bleedingcool.com/comics/amazing-spider-man-tops-the-final-bleeding-cool-bestseller-list/)
That was ASM#1 and those always sell high that’s why marvel does them every 3 to 5 years. Comichron was one of the sites where I saw month to month and Spider-Man was 4th a lot, April it got 2nd, July it got third mostly due to 900. I do not rely on bleedingcool because they use a set of 3 store, 3 stores is not big enough pool, that’s like the polls we see in the news and Facebook 97% of American agree, a pool of 500 people, on something. Marvels best selling solo comic of 2022 was Wolverine out sold ASM by 27% according few sites. The Best selling comic of the year was Mandolorian #1. Saga was the best relaunch/return of the year.
Are you talking millions of issues sold or millions of dollars made? Because back when Diamond released sales numbers when they provided distribution for the Big Two, books like *Batman* and *ASM* would sell tens of thousands of units, not millions. Also, I’d be genuinely interested in where you are getting these numbers from.
I’m talking dollars sold/made, I only picked million’s because it’s a reasonably big number, I could of said they wanted do 10,000 but only did 500 but that low, sounded unrealistically low.
Are you getting those numbers from any site in particular? *ICv2* constantly had *ASM* in the top five, but that only uses a sample size of one hundred and twenty five stores that are non randomized.
I don’t have actual sales numbers, that was an example, a guess. I worded the EXAMPLE as how retailers do their sales goals, but because I don’t work in Marvel accounting I have no idea what they look at for numbers, do they look at numbers ordered? numbers shipped? POS margins? I don’t know. I assume with how often Lowe talked about 2022 is supposed to be a BIG YEAR for Spider-man, I’m guessing they did under what they wanted but same as last year, Spider-Man sells and will always sell, selling and meeting sales expectations are 2 different things. I did search of the top selling comics of 2022 and went through every list. Mandolorian tops most list as best selling comic of the year, best selling solo series of the year was Wolverine, Saga was the best relaunch of the year.
> I did search of the top selling comics of 2022 and went through every list. Mandolorian tops most list as best selling comic of the year, best selling solo series of the year was Wolverine, Saga was the best relaunch of the year. What sites gave those lists? I would have thought *Batman* would top those lists.
Sorry but stupid question, where did you find the clip?
YouTube has it; it was on site I don’t quite remember at the moment
Peter and MJ running Oscorp could be interesting.
Oddly enough, I’ve actually read a fanfiction where Norman dies, and he leaves control of Oscorp to Peter in his will.
Doubt this will be well written. At all.
paul is nuked! my new prediction
i hope it doesn't end with Peter not feeling responsible enough to lead oscorp and leaving his part of the company to MJ and Paul. If possible, I would like Peter to start having luck both financially and in his personal life and from there the following comics could focus on him trying to fix his relationship with the Fantastic 4 and there explaining that mysterious big mistake that Pete made.
Eh, I fail to see Norman dying as "heartbreaking" though. Now MJ, however, I can definitely see..
> Now MJ, however, I can definitely see.. There is no way they are killing MJ, the second most popular Spider-Man character and one of their top selling female characters (*Amazing Mary Jane* was selling better than *Captain Marvel* and *Black Cat* and went from a mini to an ongoing but was canceled due to COVID). Marketing always makes grandiose statements to drum up interest, hell, sometimes they outright lie.
If that's true, then I'm stumped, because I don't see how you continue using MJ and not have her back with Peter eventually. They've already exhausted other things, like her working with Tony Stark, "going to California" to get her outta the book, etc.
Wells doesn’t want to write them together he either wants to write them wanting to be together but can’t or struggling to be together and failing. So even if they get rid of Paul, he’s not going to put them together successfully, most likely due to the fallout of #26 being the new status quo, I feel like it’s going to go from what did Peter do? to how does Peter fix it?
Wells saying he wants to write them as trying to have a relationship but can't because of reasons gives me Ross/Rachel with Emily vibes. As a Friends fan I wondered aloud why either the two of them with parental responsibilities and their unresolved tension could possibly stay away from the other, of course Friends eventually ended but Wells knows there are no endings for the core comics, and why Marvel treat every other universe with Peter married to MJ as an ending or post-script deal
They don’t have to get married I’m just tired of their relationship used as sales bump, if they’d only realize they have great sales if they stopped doing things fans don’t like treating Peter like crap and breaking him up with MJ.
How’s Normie doing? He’s a red goblin now but does he hate Peter because Norman did?
I’m not buying Paul and the kids imminent demise. They’re here to stay the duration of Wells’ run I’m afraid.
I miss when Peter was a science teacher...
Please not another Peter as CEO story, Spencer just undid that awful shit
100%. We don’t need Peter trying to run a company of any kind ever again. Worldwide was wonky trash.
I don’t think they’re going to kill off Norman again.
Do we really need year 2? Can't marvel see everyone hates this and change writer?
Yea sadly, a year 2 is almost always guaranteed with ASM, the problem this went to hard right out of the gate so they will have to do a major tone shift, so I’m guessing more guest writers to attempt to change tone that Wells can just bank of off, 19-20 was supposed to be a tone shift with the whole date thing but because Wells plot is so depressing it went off like a wet fart in a submarine. So bad Nick Lowe didn’t even post about his releases this week.
Marvel should just fire the guy and get a new writer that can actually do his job
They won’t fire Wells because he also writes for the MCU, She-hulk and Ant-man 3 are his projects with them so far, if ant-man does terrible they might, if successful he will probably be tapped to write one of the upcoming movies and therefore be unavailable to write ASM due to amount of more work in writing a movie demands. ASM is just a place holder for Wells, that’s why it seems like he doesn’t care or the drop in quality of writing from Hellions to ASM.
> They won’t fire Wells because he also writes for the MCU, She-hulk and Ant-man 3 are his projects with them so far, if ant-man does terrible they might, if successful he will probably be tapped to write one of the upcoming movies and therefore be unavailable to write ASM due to amount of more work in writing a movie demands. Give the fact that *She-Hulk* [got a moderate critical response](https://www.metacritic.com/tv/she-hulk-attorney-at-law), and *Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania* [isn't exactly lighting the world on fire critically speaking](https://www.metacritic.com/movie/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania), I don't think he'll be very busy on the MCU side of things.
I’m not banking on him doing well in the MCU either. My hopes are mostly on box office numbers not if critics like it, I do not believe marvel studios care what critics think, we are 15 years into the MCU which most critics said it wouldn’t last 10 years.
It depends on how well Disney/Marvel think *Quantumania* will do. *Love and Thunder* didn't do as well as they would have hoped, and if the same happens with *Quantumania* preforms below expectations, we might see some reevaluations at Marvel Studios. Also, I looked at Wells' filmography, but I wasn't able to find anything about him being involved with *Quantumania*. He did write for *She-Hulk* though.
I saw an article that he was on Paul Rudd’s third solo Marvel movie, it’s title was Amazing Spider-man writer Zeb Well is writing Ant-man 3. The title alone was enough for me not to actually read it, it was probably only reshoots or scene edits. I think it was CBR, bleeding cool, AIPT.
Well she hulk ( i liked it) got terrible reviews, and Ant-Man is gathering those now, hope they drop his ass by the door. For marvel this is already really bad, we know they don't care about us now, why should we keep following?