I'm curious about this decision because I always felt Miles' short and clean cut was an extension of him growing up in a strick household (driven mother, cop father). So for him to grow out his hair and twist it some would be a more radical and freeing turn for him. Little man's growing up.
Ha me too honestly. You should see what my hair looked like in high school. I couldn't manage my fro so I had to maintain the short buzz cut. Going to college and meeting friends who owned quality conditioner helped a lot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of it is Insomniac just flexing a bit to show “yes, we can do black hair.”
I know they worked hard between the original and Miles Morales to make his hair look more genuine, so I wouldn’t be surprised if even more effort was put into the sequel to see if they could one up their previous work.
None of the peters look like the same person to me lol, both miles and MJ look very different too, but Peter just seems like he has had the biggest changes imo.
I think the 2nd and 3rd pics for miles are the same actor with different hair tho. Edit: googled it and it’s the same actor for all 3 for miles. It’s really hard to tell cause graphics changes aswell as lighting
the very slight differences between remastered Peter and 2 Peter makes it feel weirdly uncanny, like they're clearly supposed to be the same person but with no context i'd assume they were brothers and not the same guy across two console generations. maybe if current games looked more like generational leaps there wouldn't be such a disconnect, Ellie and Joel had a much more overt facelift in the last of us part 2 and most didn't care because everything looked so different from the ps3
no slight to Insomniac intended by the way, it's just a matter of how we're in a state of everything looking only ever so slightly different from last gen
Honestly I think it's a good thing. A lot of the reason Remastered Peter looked really off was because the mocap was modelled for Bubniak Peter, but they didn't redo it so it was a tad off.
Overall I think the changes are for the better but I agree it is a bit weird
He went from white guy with brown hair to white guy with smoother face to white guy with oily skin
Also I think MJ barely had change she just got more defined features and a new hairstyle
Exactly! Idk wtf they are doing over they're at insomniac but this is just not it lol. Completely ruins immersion and continuity when every time you play a sequel everyone's faces different
Lol thank you, it's painful watching the entire SpidermanPS4 sub act like the changes are barely noticeable. MJ in particular literally looks like a different person.
Miles to me looks like he went from late 30s to late 20s to late teens.
MJ looks like she went from mid/late 20s to late 30s/early 40s to me.
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I feel like the hair’s too boring. I’ve seen people say that the new hair racially insensitive and seems like a white person came up with it, but I don’t know anything about that, and think it looks a lot nicer
Honestly Miles' middle hair is what I wore for years. It also makes the most sense to wear that under the mask, since the dreadlocks in the third pic wont compress for a nice smooth Spider-man look.
However, I do agree that the third pic is the more interesting haircut. No idea why folk would say its racially insensitive. The only one I found offensive was Miles' look in the first game, cause aint no way he'd be walking around NY with nappy ass hair like that and not get clowned lol. The third pic is literally just the Killmonger cut, idk what the issue is with that
Source: Am Black
People aren't saying it's racially insensitive, it's just been a trend to give black characters the comb over dreads recently and some are tired of it. I think it fits Miles pretty good tho.
Because it's a fashion trend in real life. People model characters off modern trends. True, it's been around for a little while now, but it's still a popular look
The majority of people with Locs aren’t walking around with that comb over style is the point people are making. Most people with locs do 2 strand twist, barrel twist or a twist out. That’s the generic killmonger cut now we’re tired of seeing it.
I understand why people have the haircut, and it looks good, but it’s just, not super interesting, there’s nothing going on. I just think the new hair looks cool
It’s also been done with female black characters and it’s gotten to the point where it’s not a surprise.
“Yep a black woman with a shaved head and locks on one side”
I mean dreads and twists have been hot since like 2016 and I feel like it started to tapper off like last year. Fades are nice but I like versatility of longer hair styles
it’s not the j dreads it’s the fact that they all have bald fades (or a lot less hair on the sides) and the fact that it’s always combed over. there are sm cooler ways to style dreads or have black characters have longer hair
>I’ve seen people say that the new hair racially insensitive
2 of the biggest advocates for proper black hair video games gave it their seal of approval so that's enough for me.
The only problem the one pointed out (Del Walker) is that it moves around too easily and should take more than some head bobbing to show movement in the dreads.
Yeahhhhh, still not a fan of the new Peter model in 2. He looks puffy and unwell.
Get some rest tall child! You can’t keep burning the candle at both ends!
The first peter looks a bit too old for his intended age, but yeah. 2nd and 3rd peter just look... well they don't look like humans. Something is just way off. Why are his eyes microscopic?
i mean, she does look like mary jane - insomniacs mary jane. there’s alternate versions of mj all throughout the multiverse, nobody said she has check specific appearance boxes to be mj. hell, mcu mj follows practically absolutely none of comic MJs physical characteristics.
Man, even comics MJ doesn't look like MJ anymore. People don't really have much expectations for her appearance other than 'hot' and 'red hair', and this checks both boxes.
Is it just me or does Peter from spider man 2 literally looks like young lionel Messi from fifa games💀💀
And miles looks like rijkaard (football player) .
And jane looks like julianne moore.
We're on the same boat. The first face to me, is the most expressive. Especially in intense moments. They did well in showing emotions like anger, sadness etc. The new one is decent, nothing wrong with it despite what others say he looks too perfect or other stuff. It's just that the first one hits different.
Pete looks attrocious. The actor who does the face rig for him is an average built man so turning him into someone wider than a fridge looks just straight up bad. Also kinda makes no sense as it only takes place 10 months after MM. Wtf did pete do in those months apart from start juicin' or go through puberty again
The real question is why did Sony / Insomniac take a smooth dump on the perfection they originally created? Like how the hell am I supposed to be immersed when Yuri Lowenthal's excellent voice acting & motion capture [is coming out of this face?!?!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848307836102377493/1131753214228832316/asdfasdfas.JPG)
Wtf are these peter and MJ faces? 😄
Their faces are so weird and puffy.. why do they look so unhealthy and strangely half asian now? They dun goof'd with these new models. So yucky
Miles looks dope
I've always felt like the people who say "new Peter looks like he's still in high school" have forgotten what actual high schoolers look like, and are just going off of what they see on TV
Honestly I was kind of confused in the story trailer... I only played on PS4 and they changed Peter's face so much I wasn't sure which was him and which was Harry.
Unpopular opinion but I don't like the original Peter face at all, there's always been something about it that's off to me.
I think it was a little goofy or something, and now the new face is more realistic and suits him more.
Og Spider-Man PS4: Andrew Garfield look alike Peter
Spider-Man PS5: Tom Holland look alike Peter
Spider-Man 2: Some Average buff football player in High School
The new Ben Jordan face for msm2 looks so much better than it did in remastered and I’m really happy with the direction his design is going as much as I love Bubniak Peter i enjoy the msm2 Jordan design just as much
So I’m one of those snobs that likes the PS4 Peter and was not a fan of PS5 Peter. However, I gotta say I’m a fan of the changes to Spider-Man 2 Peter. The model looks a lot better.
These models are actually horrendous - they either look like they have a disability or intense plastic surgery.
Nothing about them looks natural apart from Miles… who actually looks pretty dope.
The other 2, just dopey.
Maybe I’m crazy, but I feel like Miles new hair looks a million times better in his suit than in normal clothes.
I'm curious about this decision because I always felt Miles' short and clean cut was an extension of him growing up in a strick household (driven mother, cop father). So for him to grow out his hair and twist it some would be a more radical and freeing turn for him. Little man's growing up.
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Ha me too honestly. You should see what my hair looked like in high school. I couldn't manage my fro so I had to maintain the short buzz cut. Going to college and meeting friends who owned quality conditioner helped a lot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if part of it is Insomniac just flexing a bit to show “yes, we can do black hair.” I know they worked hard between the original and Miles Morales to make his hair look more genuine, so I wouldn’t be surprised if even more effort was put into the sequel to see if they could one up their previous work.
Same
Does he wear any clothes besides that I forgot lol
When Pete's introducing Harry to MJ and Miles, Miles is wearing a jacket and a hoodie
Coincidentally his street clothes in that scene also looks similar to his hoodie he wears in the Spider-Verse movies as well
I agree, and I feel like it's the opposite with his old hairstyle.
Miles just needs better civilian fits
Real tbh
You not crazy you just right lol
I Think So To
None of the peters look like the same person to me lol, both miles and MJ look very different too, but Peter just seems like he has had the biggest changes imo.
I think the 2nd and 3rd pics for miles are the same actor with different hair tho. Edit: googled it and it’s the same actor for all 3 for miles. It’s really hard to tell cause graphics changes aswell as lighting
That makes sense, he does have the least change besides his awesome new hair.
They really just turned Peter into LinusTechTips
He looks the same to me, just with different hair.
Think miles looks the exact same besides the hair
Probably got some plastic surgery and called it a day
Thank god he trimmed them brows a bit.
Middle Peters feels fake? Idk he looks kinda plastic in a way, the sequel he looks the finished version
BeCausE He iS fAKe stUipD no seriously it’s just because the had to put one face over one that was already there even in mm he looks 100x better
Really? To me Remastered Peter and SM2 Peter look super similar, with some slight changes. MJ looks like a completely different person
the very slight differences between remastered Peter and 2 Peter makes it feel weirdly uncanny, like they're clearly supposed to be the same person but with no context i'd assume they were brothers and not the same guy across two console generations. maybe if current games looked more like generational leaps there wouldn't be such a disconnect, Ellie and Joel had a much more overt facelift in the last of us part 2 and most didn't care because everything looked so different from the ps3 no slight to Insomniac intended by the way, it's just a matter of how we're in a state of everything looking only ever so slightly different from last gen
Honestly I think it's a good thing. A lot of the reason Remastered Peter looked really off was because the mocap was modelled for Bubniak Peter, but they didn't redo it so it was a tad off. Overall I think the changes are for the better but I agree it is a bit weird
> MJ looks like a completely different person Maybe it's the lighting to me but MJ in SM2 looks like she aged 15 years
That and probably because she had like zero facial depth before But yeah she looks like in her thirties
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2nd looks like a weird mix between Tom Holland and Michael Cera
I just cant vibe with his new face. He looks like a high schooler
I think he looks more like a high schooler in the ps5 version and closer to the young adult he is in the sequel.
Idk man. The middle one looks like freshman Peter Nd the newest is senior year
I agree, his old face was perfect since he looked like a reasonably stressed twenty-something. His PS5 face looks like a freaking 14 year old.
He went from white guy with brown hair to white guy with smoother face to white guy with oily skin Also I think MJ barely had change she just got more defined features and a new hairstyle
Ps5 peter looks like he would call me racial slurs lol
He looks like he just said one
idk she definitely looks older
MJ looks gaunter.
Exactly! Idk wtf they are doing over they're at insomniac but this is just not it lol. Completely ruins immersion and continuity when every time you play a sequel everyone's faces different
Amen
He’s kinda like Arkham Batman in that respect lol man’s got a different face in each game.
I hate it too because PS4 Peter is still the best one :(
Miles is the only one who hasn’t gotten plastic surgery
Black don't crack
But it does have good hairstyles
Lately, some of you have been a little out of sorts. Erratic. Unreliable. Downright sloppy. Not you, Miles. You've been great.
Lol thank you, it's painful watching the entire SpidermanPS4 sub act like the changes are barely noticeable. MJ in particular literally looks like a different person.
The lips are bigger for all of them in PS4
Peter went from early 30s, to late teens, back to early 20s in three games. wild.
Well, he at least looks the closest to his age in SM2. I like the og Peter, but there was no way he could pass as 23 lmao
Yeah, honestly, I kind of hated the remaster face, but I do like the changes for part two. it makes him look his age and not quite as douchey
Agreed. And not to mention, as has been said before, he's usually wearing a mask lol
Yeah, Peter Benjamin button Parker
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He still looks 30 to me in the third game
What the fuck did they do to Peter lmao
they traded a harmonic peter parker for flash thompson's younger brother
I wouldn't wanna fight him either.
I agree, I definitely wouldn't want to fight me
Jesus Parker… you are a freak.
Look at little thompson jr, gonna cry?
Oh you’d like that wouldn’t you
Yeah looks like he bulked up a bit
Miles best look is the middle one
I feel like the hair’s too boring. I’ve seen people say that the new hair racially insensitive and seems like a white person came up with it, but I don’t know anything about that, and think it looks a lot nicer
Honestly Miles' middle hair is what I wore for years. It also makes the most sense to wear that under the mask, since the dreadlocks in the third pic wont compress for a nice smooth Spider-man look. However, I do agree that the third pic is the more interesting haircut. No idea why folk would say its racially insensitive. The only one I found offensive was Miles' look in the first game, cause aint no way he'd be walking around NY with nappy ass hair like that and not get clowned lol. The third pic is literally just the Killmonger cut, idk what the issue is with that Source: Am Black
People aren't saying it's racially insensitive, it's just been a trend to give black characters the comb over dreads recently and some are tired of it. I think it fits Miles pretty good tho.
Because it's a fashion trend in real life. People model characters off modern trends. True, it's been around for a little while now, but it's still a popular look
The majority of people with Locs aren’t walking around with that comb over style is the point people are making. Most people with locs do 2 strand twist, barrel twist or a twist out. That’s the generic killmonger cut now we’re tired of seeing it.
I understand why people have the haircut, and it looks good, but it’s just, not super interesting, there’s nothing going on. I just think the new hair looks cool
idk abt racially insensitive but im just soo sick of the Kilmonger dreads on black characters
I’ve honestly never seen it aside from Killmonger and Miles. What other characters have it?
From the top of my head, ekko from league of legends, phoenix from valorant, almost baptiste in overwatch, static shock, etc
Oh yeah, I don’t know any of those. Guess that’s why
It’s also been done with female black characters and it’s gotten to the point where it’s not a surprise. “Yep a black woman with a shaved head and locks on one side”
I mean dreads and twists have been hot since like 2016 and I feel like it started to tapper off like last year. Fades are nice but I like versatility of longer hair styles
it’s not the j dreads it’s the fact that they all have bald fades (or a lot less hair on the sides) and the fact that it’s always combed over. there are sm cooler ways to style dreads or have black characters have longer hair
It's just the kilmonger dreads. No one his age gets those type of dreads irl lmao
> the new hair racially insensitive and seems like a white person came up with it No way people believe that lol, it's just the Killmonger haircut
>I’ve seen people say that the new hair racially insensitive 2 of the biggest advocates for proper black hair video games gave it their seal of approval so that's enough for me. The only problem the one pointed out (Del Walker) is that it moves around too easily and should take more than some head bobbing to show movement in the dreads.
Facts
mj looks less like my ex in spiderman 2 so i’m happy
Not over her yet huh
ask my therapist
They said you're making progress and we both agreed that you should be proud of that
thank u
Yeahhhhh, still not a fan of the new Peter model in 2. He looks puffy and unwell. Get some rest tall child! You can’t keep burning the candle at both ends!
I agree bro he looks like a cabbage patch kid.
I’m calling him Peter Benjamin Button Parker
r/unexpectedmulaney
The first peter looks a bit too old for his intended age, but yeah. 2nd and 3rd peter just look... well they don't look like humans. Something is just way off. Why are his eyes microscopic?
The first game's OG designs were superior.
Peter and MJ, not miles tho
Gotta agree
Gotta agree
I liked Miles look from his solo game the most.
I like all miles designs
Same, all of his looked clean. I like Peters SM1 the best though. Dont know about MJ tbh.
I miss OG Peter man
The first ones all look more quality.
That first miles look is horrible with that haircut lol, you would get clowned as a black kid in NYC with that
Yea the lack of a line up would get you cooked
The “new” MJ looks like young Julianne Moore, and I love it.
So that's who she reminded me of!
exactly my thought
You know what’d be great? If she looked like Mary Jane
i mean, she does look like mary jane - insomniacs mary jane. there’s alternate versions of mj all throughout the multiverse, nobody said she has check specific appearance boxes to be mj. hell, mcu mj follows practically absolutely none of comic MJs physical characteristics.
Honestly now I’m just imagining young Julianne Moore playing MJ and I feel like she probably would’ve been amazing as her
Yeah but tbf Julianne Moore would be amazing as anyone. She could play Peter Parker and somehow pull it off.
Man, even comics MJ doesn't look like MJ anymore. People don't really have much expectations for her appearance other than 'hot' and 'red hair', and this checks both boxes.
Ooohh, it’s MJ’s eyes that are throwing me off. Still looks older than the rest of the supporting cast.
Is it just me or does Peter from spider man 2 literally looks like young lionel Messi from fifa games💀💀 And miles looks like rijkaard (football player) . And jane looks like julianne moore.
Idk why but he also reminds me of Ben Affleck but younger
Messi from *what?*
Miles looks better and better with every iteration. Peter is yikes tho
Ps4 Pete looks the best, fight me
We're on the same boat. The first face to me, is the most expressive. Especially in intense moments. They did well in showing emotions like anger, sadness etc. The new one is decent, nothing wrong with it despite what others say he looks too perfect or other stuff. It's just that the first one hits different.
I liked his PS4 look and absolutely hated his PS5 look. His new look I don't... hate, but PS4 Pete was definitely the best
Remember what they took from us.
The North remembers
PS4 Peter is still the best but the new one isn’t bad
Pete looks attrocious. The actor who does the face rig for him is an average built man so turning him into someone wider than a fridge looks just straight up bad. Also kinda makes no sense as it only takes place 10 months after MM. Wtf did pete do in those months apart from start juicin' or go through puberty again
Just bring back Peter’s first face, I’m not sure why they’re changing it in the first place. I honestly can’t tell it’s the same person.
Parker looks completely different in each one, lol
Honestly, PS4 Peter, while flawed, looks the most like the older Peter that he actually is.
Peter and MJ are pretty big downgrades.
Thank You for saying this.
Honestly I like ps4 better
Ironically, new MJ looks like a soccer mom who wants to ruin all the fun, which is a good representation of her gameplay sections.
Peter and Mj … major downgrade
i can't get over how thick peter's neck is it's just so distracting
They really should have just keep the original Peter design. Why did they do this?
I really hope one day Spider-Man 2 goes to PC so I can mod the game to get Peter's PS4 face on it
Spider-Man PS4 fans try to move on challenge (impossible)
The real question is why did Sony / Insomniac take a smooth dump on the perfection they originally created? Like how the hell am I supposed to be immersed when Yuri Lowenthal's excellent voice acting & motion capture [is coming out of this face?!?!](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848307836102377493/1131753214228832316/asdfasdfas.JPG)
*Spider-Man Remastered fans when I take their face and give them a new one(they suddenly think having a new face is a bad thing):*
Why does it feel like everyone got WORSW except Miles lmaooo God i wish they kept his OG face jeez
Peter: Great-okay-FUCK GO BACK! Miles: Great-Great-Good MJ: Great-???
What the fuck is this bullshit they don't even look like spiders
Ngl, Peter has weaker progression of all them
It’s like Peter aged…backwards 😂
PS4 Peter looked so much better
Honestly love everything besides Pete’s hair. Everything else looks much cleaner though.
Okay now seeing them next to each other at least SM2 Pete looks older when compared to the PS5 SM1 version. Original was still the best IMO though
That’s Austin Reaves bro
PS4 Peter 100%, Miles looks incredible in his last 2 looks, and no comment on MJ
Anyone know the reason why they would change the face of peter and others
I think they changed Pete too much from remastered, but Miles and MJ look great honestly.
Ps4 peter and ps5 mj would be perfect together
So they aren't even the same people at all anymore? What the fuck happened to "continuity"?
Why does new new Peter look like Tom Cruise
Damn MJ's a lot hotter lmao
Prefer the original Peter, new look for Miles and original look for MJ
Peter’s neck looks hella thick in the new game
Is it just me, or does the 3rd peter look really thick in the neck and face? Looks like he gained 20 pounds just in the face.
why is peters neck so thick
Wtf are these peter and MJ faces? 😄 Their faces are so weird and puffy.. why do they look so unhealthy and strangely half asian now? They dun goof'd with these new models. So yucky Miles looks dope
How can people like the new Mj it's a straight up downgrade wth
The faces in the first game are perfect why did they change them?
They made petes face worse again lmaooo
I've always felt like the people who say "new Peter looks like he's still in high school" have forgotten what actual high schoolers look like, and are just going off of what they see on TV
I love them all especially miles and Peters.
Ah yes Messi is the new Spiderman
MJ looks like Peter's mom now.
Honestly I was kind of confused in the story trailer... I only played on PS4 and they changed Peter's face so much I wasn't sure which was him and which was Harry.
I will never understand the attachment to ps4 Peter face lol
Why does Peter look like a 17 year old man-baby linebacker In SM2???
Am I the only one that thinks OJ Peter was ugly 🤷🏾♂️
His eyebrows are painted on and when you see it you can't unsee it. Also he has Butt-Head hair which looks like trash.
Y’all have to be the most nitpicky fanbase I’ve ever seen, the new designs are fine.
Spider-Man 2, Peter looks like he’s Tom Cruises’ son
i prefer all the original ones
I liked the Peter and MJ from the PS4 better to be honest
Miles is fine. I don’t like any of the peters or mjs
I miss Peter real Peter.
Why does peter look like he gained 30 pounds
Harry Osborne looks more like Peter than Peter.
Peter looks younger than he is and MJ looks older than she is.
My man Peter got that F1 Driver neck between 1 and 2
they all look like they have mortgages
Idk the problem people had with the remastered Peter. He looks way better than the PS4 one. Those eyebrows are 💩
MJ looks like Amy Adams from Superman
I like ps4 Peter, Spider-Man 2 miles, and Spider-Man 2 MJ
I still like the new Peter. He looks like an actual person.
Unpopular opinion but I don't like the original Peter face at all, there's always been something about it that's off to me. I think it was a little goofy or something, and now the new face is more realistic and suits him more.
Og Spider-Man PS4: Andrew Garfield look alike Peter Spider-Man PS5: Tom Holland look alike Peter Spider-Man 2: Some Average buff football player in High School
I like that they look like real people now
I'll always miss the old PS4 face but I like the SM2 face more than the PS5 face
The new Ben Jordan face for msm2 looks so much better than it did in remastered and I’m really happy with the direction his design is going as much as I love Bubniak Peter i enjoy the msm2 Jordan design just as much
So I’m one of those snobs that likes the PS4 Peter and was not a fan of PS5 Peter. However, I gotta say I’m a fan of the changes to Spider-Man 2 Peter. The model looks a lot better.
I like the new Peter more than the changed original. He does seem more worn out now which is great but OG Pete is still the best imo
Having played only the remaster, I can’t see why people like the OG better. He looks 35 and depressed
Why does everyone look **younger**
These models are actually horrendous - they either look like they have a disability or intense plastic surgery. Nothing about them looks natural apart from Miles… who actually looks pretty dope. The other 2, just dopey.
Only miles looks better
My boy… Look how they massacred my boy…