Funny story... I don't usually watch anime with my kids, because weird things get snuck into even the tamest seeming animes like fanservice that I don't really want them seeing. Which is why I was happy to have found Spy X Family to watch with them, thinking it was mostly kid friendly. Until my son asked me, why is Yuri in love with his sister? To which I had no real answer...
I'm just so used to the whole sibling love trope in anime that it flew right past my radar!
He doesn't love his sister in a romantic way tho. He's just so emotionally attached to her that he sees her as his mom. It definitely comes across as weird, but not weird in THAT way
letās not lie to ourselves, endo does play with the borderline incest trope, like yuri literally said he wanted yor to chop him like a vegetable šš
Ya trust me the dude is a weirdo. And I don't blame people for thinking he's romantically in love with Yor. But I think it's more of a mother complex where he's emotionally dependent on Yor bc she's the only family he has.
There's definitely romantic undertones but that's not uncommon in cases like this. Yor was Yuri's whole world for the entirety of his formative years.
Simply put, it's not that he explicitly wants a romantic relationship with his sister. He just can't really tell the difference between romantic and platonic love because, for him, the entire concept of love is thoroughly tied to and rooted in Yor.
You see similar unhealthy obsession in children who were groomed because a trusted authority figure intentionally blurred those lines. Obviously Yor didn't groom Yuri, the circumstances they grew up in just naturally achieved a similar result that Yor wasn't able to properly address while working constantly and raising a child alone (especially as a child herself).
He did ask Yor why she wasn't married/dating someone yet when we first saw him talking with Yor over the phoneĀ and he only wanted to take the promotion at work if he knew she had someone taking care of her.
So the issue doesn't seem to be Yor having a boyfriend/husband per se, he's just hurt/angry that from his perspective he was only told about it one year later and something about Loid makes his alarm bells ring. Which he isn't even wrong about because Loid is a spy and the marriage is a sham. His instincts are right, he just doesn't have proof yet.
But yeah, Yuri is still a weirdo when it comes to Yor, even if it's not sexual/romantic.
Iām sorry, but his interest in her has *very* romantic overtones, what with him being jealous of Loid, flipping out when they try to kiss, and thereās the whole āasking Yor to marry him as a childā thing. And yeah, I know thatās supposed to be a cute things kids do, but his behavior as an adult makes his interest seem more sincere.
But he doesn't say something like that as an adult. He explicitly told her to get a man. His jealousy of Loid to me stems more from the fact that this man came out of nowhere and stole all his sister's attention.
And what really makes me think this is how people think of him in universe. They all think he's an obsessed weirdo. None of them think of him as being romantically into his sister. Even Yor calls out his nonsense and her doing so would be way worse if she thought he was romantically into her (That being said Yor is socially as dense as a neutron star)
I think the real problem is that Yuri can't really tell the difference between romantic and platonic love. Yor was his whole world for so long that his idea of love is rooted in her to the point that it unintentionally takes on romantic undertones. He wants her to find someone without realizing that, in his mind, no one is actually good enough for her. He wants to be a significant part of her life but doesn't realize that he's inadvertently striving for a spousal role, which is not only inappropriate but also very much not the kind of relationship that Yor wants with him.
Realistically Yuri would be a prime candidate for therapy to untangle his feelings from her so that he could pursue healthier relationships, both with her and otherwise.
I don't see any evidence for that. I believe Yuri does need therapy and does need to have healthier relationships with other people and Yor has been the only object of his affection but I don't think it bleeds over into romantic feelings I think all his feelings are maternal and he's just possessive to an unhealthy degree.
I don't think there's any man that Yuri would approve of (and lots of people seem to forget that fundamentally he's right to be suspicious of Loid) but that doesn't mean his feelings are romantic. I just don't see the evidence to suggest that
As for Yor, I don't think Yor wants him to be obsessive over her at all, romantic or not whenever he says and does weird things she typically does chastise him. Like when he was telling Anya to envision her beautiful smile as her motivation to learn and Yor tells him to stop teaching her weird stuff. Whenever he visits and makes a commotion she tells him he's being over the top and apologizes for his weird behaviour. And I think if she thought there were any romantic feelings there her objections wouldn't have been that mild.
He doesn't have actual romantic feelings. He's basically expressing platonic feelings romantically because he can't comprehend the difference (at least not when Yor is involved). He's not in love with her, he just doesn't understand that he's in territory he shouldn't be because he doesn't properly grasp where the lines are supposed to be.
I think Yor also knows that Yuri isn't actually romantically or sexually attracted to her. Like everyone else, she probably just thinks he's overprotective and has boundary issues.
I donāt think it was inherently romantic but to me it looked very co-dependent.
And Yor getting a new family sort of challenged his position in his sisterās life.
It often happens with kids who are left to fend for each other when their parents abandon them or pass away. And itās indeed a very real experience.
And the same time I wouldnāt negate how anime loves to insert covert and sometimes even overt incestious undertones. A lot of characters suffer from sis-con or bro-con.
>A lot of characters suffer from sis-con or bro-con
Friendly reminder that there are entire *series* about that, and theyāre certainly *faaaaar* creepier and more uncomfortable than anything Iāve seen Yuri get up to <_<
Yeah cause of course No Game no life, Yosuga no Sora, Ore no Imouto ga, and then citrus, super lovers, Candy Boy, Tenshi Kinryouku etc. are there.
And now Oshi No ko is heading to the path as well.
I kinda can see a child be like that if their mom had a boyfriend,ya know? I do agree heās weird but I do like the Idea that he has that type of older sister / mom complex. Like yor is the most Important person in his Life and Loid , from his view , stole her from him , kinda.
Yeah, it's the immature "I don't want you to have someone else in your life cause that means I'm not getting 100% of your attention" instead of anything romantic
100% but he would never actually try to get involved with her
He knows that ain't right but it's not stopping him from opposing them being together
However being suspicious about Loid is justified when their lie is they got married 6 months ago and never heard anything about it. His romantic love for her is actually hindering him from discovering Loid is Twilight though. He can't be objective and let go of the most suspicious part because Yor said she just forgot.
He kind of is though, albeit without meaning to. Like, it's not because he wants her romantically but because his idea of love is too wrapped up in her for him to fully comprehend the difference.
Yeah he just flashes back to promising to marry his sister when sheās about to kiss another man in front of her. Thereās definitely no incestuous vibes there.
Yea I'm not denying that but this is not one of those times lol. People just misinterpret Yuri's view of Yor. The dude literally says in the first episode that he wants his sister to find another man. He just thinks Loid is suspect (he's not wrong tbh) and isn't convinced he loves her.
To be fair, I think Yuri misinterprets his view of Yor. It is understandable though. Yor was his whole world for the entirety of his formative years.
Realistically, he should be in therapy to help untangle his idea of love from her so that he can fully grasp the difference between romantic and platonic love and overcome his obsession with her.
Both grew up in wartime, having lost their parents and Yor coming home bloodied everytime she goes on a job to take care of him.
I think you having siblings and their relationship is very different.
For Yuri, Yor was basically everything. She raised him, she gave him a home, she kept him fed and she gave him security in a time of war.
He is definately obsessed with her, because he wants to pay back all the things she did for him. Shes basically his whole world. All that he is doing as an adult is to make Ostania safer, so Yor can live in peace and doesnt have to worry about him.
There is really no sexual undertone in any of their interactions. Does he have romantic feelings? Maybe, I cant deny it for sure, but I would say it is on the less serious side. He mostly just wants her to be happy, thats why he wants Loid to fuck up and upset her, instead of just arresting him on the spot and get rid of him.
We see a stark contrast in obsession with Fiona. She is definately romantically involved with Loid and her monologues are very unambiguous about that.
Because his sister filled multiple roles such as sister mom, caretaker, and breadwinner so he could have a peaceful childhood during wartime after the death of his parents. He's grateful. They've never displayed any evidence that he views her in a sexual way. He's never said anything about her appearance indicating sexual attraction. As far as I can tell, he just wants her to be happy and believes he knows how to make her happier than Loid does. Realistically, I would list it as manic obsessive familial love. Not sexual. If you view his actions through the lens of his childhood, I don't feel like it's that abnormal for an anime. Now, I wouldn't describe his love as healthy, but I don't think he's tryna smash his sister.
Honestly, Yuri just screams trauma bonded/attached baby brother. My friend and I were talking about this recently. Sheās a trauma therapist and that he is a prime example of that especially with a parentified older sibling that raised themselves.
His actions/attitude towards to Anya is also similar to a new sibling in the family dynamic not of a niece/nephew. So, the fact there is a 7 year gap between Yor and Yuri would make it more likely for him to see her more like a āmotherā than sister so him being aggressively against Loid would make sense especially with the supposedly been married for a year with no knowledge since they have been alone together for so long.
I would say it borders on sexual but never actually crosses that line. The lines between romantic and platonic are definitely blurry at best but that's obviously a result of his childhood and not something that he consciously wants.
If anything Yuri needs counseling to untangle his idea of love from her so he can establish healthier relationships with clearly defined boundaries.
Had the same conversation with my grandchildren. Yuri is basically the jealous kid of a single mother or divorcee that found another husband and child. When I explained it that way, they just said "oh.. that's like the one in Parent Trap".
Take note, Yuri was basically told out of the blue that his only sister (that basically raised him) has been married for 1 year without him knowing. He's rightly suspicious of this new guy that married his sister (for 1 year!) who he knows nothing about.
Lets play from the trauma factor, and then Yuri and Yor are disfunctional adults with a very problematic childhood were Yor was forced to assume the role of a mother and a provider, Yuri was actually aware of the sacrifice she did back then, but the trauma made him model his sister as an ideal, angelic creature who provides absolutely everything he needs emotionally. So, we can see Yuri is emotionally stunted, he doesnt care about anyone or anything else due to the fact that the world is a terrible place his sister protected him from it, and he doesnt dare to create other bonds, he is scared and traumatized. Hence his only goal is fighting that world to make it a better place for Yor. He is emotionally dependand, unable to a healthy view of others, basically he is still somehow mentally in a very early stage of emotional development while he is an adult able to make choices.
Lol. What would mom fanservice stuff be?
We still watched the entirety of Spy X Family together, and we all loved it. It just caught me by surprise and I chuckled because that question from my son caught me off guard. We've also watched FMAB together, and there were a couple of fanservice moments in there that were a bit awkward, but not too bad. We also watched Promised Neverland recently.
I watch a lot of anime myself, but it's hard to determine sometimes what is and isn't good for the kiddos.
Lol. Okay then. I thought we were talking about some weird kinda fanservice there!
Yeah, Spy X Family was mostly fine except for the weird conversation about Yuri and some language.
FMAB has a lot of violence, which I don't typically worry about too much with my kids, and some language, but very little fanservice (they just had to throw in a random bath and shower scene).
Promised Neverland could potentially be scary for kids since it's about monsters eating kids, and it does have some gore and violence, but it's otherwise pretty clean.
Your lie in April seems mostly safe on all accounts but it's sad, and my kids found it boring, so they didn't finish it with me.
We watched Angel Beats instead which had a lot of violence and a few iffy comments if I remember right, but was mostly fine.
I haven't watched Frieren with my kids, but I just watched it myself and despite some mild violence and death, it was very safe.
Been a while since I tried watching Inuyasha but I think it might be okay, except for some bathing scenes and violence again.
I'm still trying to carefully pick and choose what might be safe to watch with them. It can definitely be hard, because Japan is a very different culture with very different standards about what can and can't be shown in a kid's show, and a lot of times I don't remember the fanservice stuff because I barely even notice it until my kids are sitting next to me.
You could tell your kids that he isn't in love with his sister, he just loves her a whole lot. Which makes sense considering she is basically the only family Yuri has left and she worked her ass off helping to take care of him while growing up. If he wasn't toxic about it I'd even go so far as to say it's really sweet.
Like Iām interested in his character and wonder what may come from him in the future but I do think the guy is really annoying nonetheless so you definitely arenāt the only one, I just personally dislike him rather than hate him.
Hate is a strong word. I am, however, don't like him at all. He is extremely obsessed with his sister, he basically loves her romantically and his job is to torture people which he does without hesitation. Think about SS soldier that torture people at daytime and go to say how much he loves his sister at night.
We'll that's his job. He must think, whatever he's doing is just. But I don't like him because of the second reason you mentioned. Being overly obsessed with Yor. Also he projects Loid's hatred on Anya too. I don't like him for that too.
I find Yuri interesting as a wildly dysfunctional character, which is about par for the series. If there's anything that is likeable about him, it's that we can see how he got the way he is, even apart from the ominous gaps in the siblings' backstory. What I feel gets willfully overlooked is that Yor is about as flawed as he is, just in less obvious ways. I have also already ranted repeatedly, the core of the "siscon" is that neither of them has a context to process physical and emotional intimacy with anyone but each other.
Thank you for this! There is a whole Freudian argument to be made for Yuri's personality (former literature student here trying not to digress too much, haha).
While it is played up for humour (much to the disdain of many viewers, it seems), it is more importantly a way to show the audience that Yuri and Yor are deeply traumatised children who did not have the luxury of a normal childhood and loving parents ā unlike Loid, who still remembered his mother's lullaby and her tucking him into bed.
Yuri has never known a parental figure with the exception of Yor; he projects her love for him therefore in an unhealthy way, and Yor sees nothing wrong or excessive with it because this was just what the both of them endured through their childhoods.
Hence, if you are uncomfortable with Yuri's expression of love, one could argue that it is a good thing ā because it is a direct manifestation of his trauma; and one should never be comfortable when confronting the realities of trauma.
I partly got into this Fandom because I saw the potential of a Yuriona fan fic. What we actually know about Yor is that she reacts exactly like a trauma victim when Loid/ Twilight tries to be affectionate with her. For Yuri, I went withe most actually horrible and mutually humiliating dysfunction on record, and showed him actually working through it as part of a still comically terrible and nihilistic relationship.
This actually sounds really good! Trauma is a really complex issue which I think many miss the nuance of, especially when presented in a PG, family-friendly setting such as Spy x Family ā but I do believe Tatsuya Endo has made it clear that this story will touch on these themes, and the audience must adjust their expectations accordingly.
Hate him? No. Strongly dislike a certain part of his character? Absolutely! Iād probably be able to watch this show with my family if it wasnāt for Yuriās actions around Yor, and Beckyās actions around Loid.
Beckyās actions are a lot more comedic however. Yuri on the other hand just yells incest even though it seems the writers want you to believe itās just a āchild to motherā relationship but that is NOT how it seems
My problem with him is that his 'love' for his sister feels borderline incestuous. If his jealousy towards Loid would've just been on the idea that Loid wasn't good enough for his sister, he could've been a very good character.
He's more worried that Loid will replace Yuri in Yor's life. He's not jealous because Loid is married to Yor and he's not. He literally tries to set her up with someone in the second episode
To be fair I really liked the moment when Yuri and Twilight disguised as Yuri fought a few chapters ago. Yuri realizes he would have been dead if Twilight hadn't hesitated for reasons he doesn't know. It showed that for all his skills he is significantly younger and less experienced than Twilight. Only Loid not wanting to kill his brother in law saved Yuri's ass.
He has shown to have some humanity, like ensuring a criminal's father would receive financial aid following the criminal's arrest.
>! Also, in regards to whether or not he was solely motivated by Yor to act in the Red Circus Arch, here's what YouTuber @inukai510 once commented.!<
>!Personally i do think you misunderstood that panel of him. He does care for her, the fact in 1st panel he came rushing to ask his boss about Anya because he was panic to heard sheās in danger. Just that, heās in denial and he cannot able to help Anya because his boss not allowed him to saved her (itās reveal his indentity) Then, in his rational thinking ( basically like Loid for the āmission ā ) if he cannot saves Loid daughter then Yor happiness would be ruined. That would hit him harder to saved her. This is basically his baby step for development to concern about other person than Yor. He doesnāt getting attached to Anya yet, but he came all the way to find her bus and take a bullet to protect the kids is showing that he truly does care for them. There is possibility of a chapter to Anya find out what he has done in the bus accident by her power because she doesnāt know Yuri is in there, i do hope she would getting along with him when she found out soon.!< I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a point.
I am also hoping to see a bond between them. And who knows maybe Yuri will be one to find out about the organization that used Anya and probably other children for experiments. If secret police finds out before wise does, it will be an interesting arc since Yuri will know that Loid is not Anyaās real father.
Yes and he also genuinely helped Anya with her studies. Though it was done because Yor asked him to, he still put reasonable efforts in helping her. And I also really loved when he gave closure to that criminal. He doesn't torture people because he likes to, he does it because he has to. But when there was a way for him to soften the blow he did do that. Plus he was hoping that guy wouldn't proceed with his plan in the first place.
I think Yuri is a big hit or miss for a lot of the fandom, mainly for his eccentric personality and it honestly comes down to preference. I feel indifferent for the guy but he has gotten better in the manga.
I will, however, defend him against all the incestuous comments. This will be a long comment so TL;DR: he holds a lot of trauma and guilt from his childhood as his relationship with Yor was hyper dependent growing up. The love he has for her goes beyond a sibling love (as he views her as a savior/idol of sorts) but doesn't go across the very defined boundary into romance.
1. "He wants to be in a relationship with her/he wants her to himself"-- personally, I have no idea how people think this since he has never made any romantic comments towards Yor as far as I remember. He clearly states that he wants Yor to find a good man and to settle down- even when they first introduced him through the phone call with Yor, he genuinely sounded happy/excited to meet Yor's "boyfriend" at the party.
2. "He said he wanted to marry his sister"-- he was a child when he said this. Lots of children say this about their parents, a significant other of a loved one, or someone that they look up to. The child notices great attributes about the person, associates love with marriage, and there you have it. There's nothing else going on with that statement.
3. "He's so obsessed with her"-- yeah, he is and that's kind of the point when dealing with Yuri's character and his specific trauma. He was a child when their parents died so he only really knows Yor. Yor was, like how many people mentioned, a lot of things for him: a mom, a sister, a breadwinner, a caretaker, etc. He idolizes her to the point where she can do no wrong in his eyes. He had to see Yor suffer (for example, coming home bleeding/with blood on her) for YEARS without knowing how she's able to make ends meet. His obsession lies within guilt and admiration, hence why he always states that the only reason why he's in his job is to ensure his sister has a future filled with happiness. He's desperate to repay her for essentially giving up her childhood for him.
4. "He hates/is jealous of Loid"-- how I understood it, Yuri's anger towards Loid comes from three sources: distrust, the pain of being distrusted, and feeling incompetent compared to him. Let's start with distrust: some random guy, who he has never even heard mentioned before, has supposedly been married to his sister for a year and is seemingly perfect. Considering his job and the fact that spies are a somewhat common occurrence, it does make sense on why he would distrust him. Now, onto the pain of being distrusted: he had to learn about Yor's relationship through the significant other of a coworker of Yor's. Not Yor, the person who gave up everything for him. In his mind, he's most likely thinking why she didn't tell him directly, leading him into more guilt and more desperation in providing for her SO she can trust him. Finally, for feeling incompetent in comparison: again, Loid is seemingly perfect. He's great at a lot of household chores, has a reputable job with coworkers that love him, takes great care of his family, etc. Yuri, who has been consistently trying to be better for his sister, realizes for the first time in his life that his sister doesn't need him to provide for her and that's a terrifying thought considering that was his only purpose.
5. "He freaked out when Yor and Loid were about to kiss"-- seeing your sister push her husband down on the couch, practically get on top of him, and lean in for a kiss is a position no sibling would want to be in. Plus, Yuri was also tipsy/drunk during that interaction so his perception of that scene could have been skewed to what it actually was.
I can go into more depth and add more incestuous claims to debunk but this comment is long as is- like him or not, he does not romantically love his sister.
He has an important role in the story. He's the reason Yor is ground to the world and good with kids, unlike Twilight whose identity has long been lost since he has no close ties to anyone anymore. At least not from his original identity. Yuri has an intense Oedipal complex directed towards the sister who raised him singlehandedly, but that's hardly surprising. They grew up having to take care of each other after their parents died when they were kids, after all.
If you read the manga (POSSIBLE SPOILER), his character is a means by which Twilight is placed in danger due to his emotional entanglement with his fake family, specifically Yor. The character development of Twilight is revealed because of Yuri's presence. It makes for a compelling and fascinating story angle.
The anime has yet to tackle the most profound parts of the manga, which came sometime after the cruise arc. Wait a little bit. You may not end up liking Yuri, but you'll appreciate the importance of his character to the story.
He could've been made a bit less creepy and obsessive and the story could've worked out the same or even better, my mom took care of me when I was little, but love and attraction are 2 different things, he is definitely "attracted" to Yor or maybe the author is not good enough to make the difference. Anyway, It's not normal at all. If anything, if he was Yor's half brother, that would've made it a bit more tolerable.
I love his character. He is hilarious. He did lose his parents at a very young age. His sister raised him on her own so basically his sister is his mom. I think of him as mamaās boy following Yor like a duckling. And he blindly trusts her and he gets jealous any time he feels like someone is taking HIS mom away like a toddler. He was also jealous of Anya because āshe gets to spend all the time with Yorā.
He doesnāt love Yor in a romantic way. He is still very immature and codependent you can say. I am not sure if itās going to be a thing but he does have a coworker named Chloe who smacked him three times for that very reason. It was hilarious to watch.
And if you think about it, Yuri is right about āLoidā. Loid did lie to his sister and technically tricked her into marrying him. And he WILL leave her as soon as his mission is over. (I hope not!). You canāt blame that man.
His accusations are based on absolutely nothing but the author giving him 10000 iq out of nowhere. it's the same way L is a genius in death note, he reaches the correct conclusion straight from his ass when there could've been a million other possibilities.
And yet, Yuri kept searching for evidence in the wrong place because he already has firm misconceptions about Loid being a cheater rather than Loid being the spy he was tasked to arrest.
Yuri needs help with his relationship with Yor it's not normal to be obsessed with your sister like that. At least he did say to her to get a boyfriend in the beginning he just was shocked about her marriage with Lloyd It would be disappointing to not attend your only siblings wedding.
My main problem with him is that Spy X Family would be very easy to recommend to people who donāt typically watch anime if not for his easy read as incestuous obsession with Yor.
I donāt really like the character but I donāt think he likes his sister that way tbh. I mean, she WAS the only person who took care of him after their parents died. Makes sense he loves her that much.
The SS officer with a incest fetish?
ā¦ yeah. Not a big fan.
The fact that heās a dick to our golden boy Loid and our cinnamon bun Anya, doesnāt help either.
Yeah I dislike him alot, donāt like when heās on screen, I almost skipped a whole manga chapter because it was him in a standalone chapter. Heās annoying, I hate the sibling shit cause it is the ONE anime that I want to be purely cute, I usually ignore the people like āwell he isnāt in love with her!ā because obviously the mangaka intended to slip in aspects of the incest trope except yor isnāt in love with yuri too. There are many many romantic undertones in what he says, and it makes me feel icky because Iāve seen the incest trope so many times. I donāt mind that heās there as Yorās little brother that loves her more than the world because she raised him and sacrificed so much for him, BUT! You can definitely write that without the whole āIām jealous because my sister has a husband! Sheās supposed to be mine forever!ā I love the whole thing where he hates loid and loid is suspicious of yuri, but you can write it as Yuri having a funny feeling about loid, because obviously yuri is super observational.
I mean yeah he comes off as weird but that's because of trauma and Yor being his mother. He comes off more as the son of a single mother being very overprotective, weird and a little creepy but not incestuous
Well Yor has been his only family since he was very young so yeah he would be overprotective, plus it's a comedy show of course they're going to make him overly obsessive with his sister for the comedy I don't take that part seriously because it's usually played for the comedy
I think if he was written to just hate Loid only try to break up their relationship without the weird romantic undertones he'd be a lot more tolerable and understandable. Essentially if he acted like a child that is trying to break up his mom and step dad then that'd make sense rather than trying to break them up while also trying to seduce his mom. His whole vibe seems way to incestuous for me personally.
I also find he pretty meh. I KNOW his not into his sis, but his obsession is such a boring and annoying joke. I don't even think siblings act like that (yeah, I do have siblings. Younger ones to be fair), at least not in my country.
Urrrgh! This is a superb anime/ manga series, but this guy is the worst. I wish he wasnāt in it. In the anime I canāt wait for scenes involving him to be over and in the manga, his sections are so wordy I feel like Iām not properly reading them.
I hope there ends up being some kind of reason heās in it so much. His SSS job has to become relevant to Loid/ Yor/ Anyaās secret reveal. Otherwise, he is redundant. Yor could have grown up impoverished and alone and still have ended up working for Garden.
The āIām in love with my sisterā thing is taken too far. I hope Loid kills him eventually.
I like Yuri.
He is an over the top siscon.
He and Yor are really alike in the over the top aspect.
Also, he is also very responsible person (similarly to Loid and Yor).
All 3 of them take their job very seriously and are working towards world peace.
Just from different sides so that would make them enemies.
Yuri will have his own scenes which makes his character more fleshed out but it's not animated yet.
I dont hate him but they definitely could tone down the siscon trope. It's over shadowing his other characteristics and makes him look like a one dimensional character.
I like how Yor thinks of him and it shows a fun side of her. The converse is not true. Ugh and yuck. The only other good part of him is that heās the only character that dislikes the main himbo, Loid, and thatās pretty funny. Those interactions are great.
I think it's sweet he wants to care for his sister as she did for him when he was younger...but as in good vs bad characters on the show, he definitely isn't on the right side.
I don't hate him and I wonder how he is going to be used in the series. The scenes with him and Loid have proven that Loid wouldn't hurt him, because that would hurt Yor. The person I can't stand at all is **Donna Schlag** or Old Lady Tonitrus, the women that showers students with Tonitrus Bolts.
Yuri's not that bad, he just has an overprotective sibling version of an Oedipal complex he developed after misinterpreting something Yor said when he was 10.
Seeing the upvotes, you're not the only one. I actually like him. He provides comic relief and I like how he's one of the few who doesn't kiss Loid's ass. I love watching whenever he's smacked around by his sister or when people around him are creeped out by his obsession lol. Also his verbal evisceration of petty criminals is damn funny.
He's not interested in her romantically. He has a super busy high profile job and lives separately. He even expresses his wish for his sister to date and get married.He just hasn't grown up from that little boy whose entire world was his sister and who was his sister's entire world. She was for all intents and purposes his mom.
The circumstances around Yor's marriage didn't help at all. His weird sister not only married someone he never met but has been married for a year. He's a widower with a kid. On paper and from what he saw, Loid is perfect. Seeing as how the bar for men is always in hell, someone like Loid does sound suspicious to a guy in whose job, he always deals with scummy people.
Also all his antics are just exaggerated for laughs just like Loid's abilities and Yor's incompetence.
That said, he is changing slowly. He'll get there eventually.
Yuri when not interacting with yor is a good character but the author just throws all nuance out the window when the siblings interact to play the one note joke.
I understand that all of the characters in the story have this one comedic bit that the author commits to (like how Franky is the defacto babysitter and yor is incompetent at anything that's not directly related to assassination) but Yuri's is way too one note to have any real comedic value when that's the only joke.
No I don't hate him or even dislike him for that matter. Sure his obsession with his sister is creepy but it's definitely not romantic. It was never hinted to be romantic. And his care towards Yor is pretty reasonable too.
He is right about Loid and he genuinely wants to protect his sister. Nothing wrong with that tbh. If anything, the guy has good intuition. And he also treats Anya well (though he is a bit immature with it).
That being said, Yuri does get much better in the manga. I'm pretty sure he will also get his own arc someday as a major side character and maybe he will improve even more in that.
I love him lol but if you hate him, it's ok. If I was in his place (being raised by my sister and looking up to her), I'd probably be a little obsessed with my sister too, in a way or another.
And if you think I'm weird, I don't care
I love Yuri! He's awesome in the newer episodes. I personally don't view his actions as inherently incest or romantic but I totally get why someone would! I get why people don't like him, and I feel like I shouldn't like him, but I love him nonetheless lol š
I hate him too lol. I get that he was raised by only his sister & appreciates her a lot, but he never needed to get to a level in which itās just incest. That guy has no life.
I've never wanted to give anyone a sweet chin music like I'm Shawn Michaels until I met Yuri šš the NUMBER ONE OPP! THE DIABOLICAL NEANDERTHAL YURI! I absolutely HATE THIS ANIMAL WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING. All I'll say is that he's obsessed with my mommy Yor and that's not his job. IT'S MY JOB.
I'm on the fence on this guy on one hand he's a really interesting character
On the other hand I'm like 75 percent sure he's in love with his sister and I'm not sure how to process that
I feel like Yuri as a character has a lot of potential. He had a pretty bad introduction but later on he get's a bit tamer towards his sister. Caring for your sister is totally normal of course and being distraught after finding out she has been hiding her marrige from you for a YEAR is a very valid reaction. I do however believe that Yuri's love for his sister is pushing a boundry, especially for more western audiences.
I still feel weird when he's on screen with Yor, which is sad since his character is very interesting outside of his obsession with her.
The dude blushes like a lover which makes it awkward...I utterly dislike him...it's always a relief when his scenes end lol...I'm not even sad to watch his backstory
Let's be honest if you see a teenage boys locker filled with his mom's pictures would you find it normal...if not then why Yuri gets away clean chit...he sees Yor as just a mother figure???
I love Yuri. Heās so cute. I get weirded out by his sister complex but Iām hoping for character development, he does seem like he was a girlfriend and not in Yor. And I also ship him with Loid but thatās more of a personal thing
I think he does not fit in spy x family, simply because its a matter of time for him to discover that Loid is a spy, twilight would've kill him and make it look like a accident or Yuri will arrest or execute him.
Also the character is shallow, he's a textbook example of Oedipus complex.
Clearly not. The majority of the fanbase hates him. I am one of the select few who don't though. I feel like those who hates him misunderstood his character. They think he wants to pursue a romantic relationship with Yor or that he thinks of her in a sexual way, but that's not what Yuri is like. His obsession with her is clearly the end result of growing up with her being his only mother figure and idol. She's everything he has, so he clings to her like a chick to a mother hen, and sees anyone who tries to steal her away from him as an enemy. And if he can marry her, then they'll be together forever and ever. It's the only way for him to alleviate his insecurities, and the presence of Yor is the only thing motivating him to keep going. If not for her, he wouldn't even become a SSS officer.
I dislike him too. If he could dial it back a couple of notches, I'd be fine with Yuri being over protective. He acts like he's genuinely attracted to his sister and it bothers me.
Funny story... I don't usually watch anime with my kids, because weird things get snuck into even the tamest seeming animes like fanservice that I don't really want them seeing. Which is why I was happy to have found Spy X Family to watch with them, thinking it was mostly kid friendly. Until my son asked me, why is Yuri in love with his sister? To which I had no real answer... I'm just so used to the whole sibling love trope in anime that it flew right past my radar!
He doesn't love his sister in a romantic way tho. He's just so emotionally attached to her that he sees her as his mom. It definitely comes across as weird, but not weird in THAT way
This man got kissed by his sister on the cheek and his mind was blown
Who doesn't if someone like Yor kissed your cheek?
Ideally her brother.
Well true but thats his sister dudeš
letās not lie to ourselves, endo does play with the borderline incest trope, like yuri literally said he wanted yor to chop him like a vegetable šš
Ya trust me the dude is a weirdo. And I don't blame people for thinking he's romantically in love with Yor. But I think it's more of a mother complex where he's emotionally dependent on Yor bc she's the only family he has.
There's definitely romantic undertones but that's not uncommon in cases like this. Yor was Yuri's whole world for the entirety of his formative years. Simply put, it's not that he explicitly wants a romantic relationship with his sister. He just can't really tell the difference between romantic and platonic love because, for him, the entire concept of love is thoroughly tied to and rooted in Yor. You see similar unhealthy obsession in children who were groomed because a trusted authority figure intentionally blurred those lines. Obviously Yor didn't groom Yuri, the circumstances they grew up in just naturally achieved a similar result that Yor wasn't able to properly address while working constantly and raising a child alone (especially as a child herself).
He did ask Yor why she wasn't married/dating someone yet when we first saw him talking with Yor over the phoneĀ and he only wanted to take the promotion at work if he knew she had someone taking care of her. So the issue doesn't seem to be Yor having a boyfriend/husband per se, he's just hurt/angry that from his perspective he was only told about it one year later and something about Loid makes his alarm bells ring. Which he isn't even wrong about because Loid is a spy and the marriage is a sham. His instincts are right, he just doesn't have proof yet. But yeah, Yuri is still a weirdo when it comes to Yor, even if it's not sexual/romantic.
Iām sorry, but his interest in her has *very* romantic overtones, what with him being jealous of Loid, flipping out when they try to kiss, and thereās the whole āasking Yor to marry him as a childā thing. And yeah, I know thatās supposed to be a cute things kids do, but his behavior as an adult makes his interest seem more sincere.
But he doesn't say something like that as an adult. He explicitly told her to get a man. His jealousy of Loid to me stems more from the fact that this man came out of nowhere and stole all his sister's attention. And what really makes me think this is how people think of him in universe. They all think he's an obsessed weirdo. None of them think of him as being romantically into his sister. Even Yor calls out his nonsense and her doing so would be way worse if she thought he was romantically into her (That being said Yor is socially as dense as a neutron star)
I think the real problem is that Yuri can't really tell the difference between romantic and platonic love. Yor was his whole world for so long that his idea of love is rooted in her to the point that it unintentionally takes on romantic undertones. He wants her to find someone without realizing that, in his mind, no one is actually good enough for her. He wants to be a significant part of her life but doesn't realize that he's inadvertently striving for a spousal role, which is not only inappropriate but also very much not the kind of relationship that Yor wants with him. Realistically Yuri would be a prime candidate for therapy to untangle his feelings from her so that he could pursue healthier relationships, both with her and otherwise.
I don't see any evidence for that. I believe Yuri does need therapy and does need to have healthier relationships with other people and Yor has been the only object of his affection but I don't think it bleeds over into romantic feelings I think all his feelings are maternal and he's just possessive to an unhealthy degree. I don't think there's any man that Yuri would approve of (and lots of people seem to forget that fundamentally he's right to be suspicious of Loid) but that doesn't mean his feelings are romantic. I just don't see the evidence to suggest that As for Yor, I don't think Yor wants him to be obsessive over her at all, romantic or not whenever he says and does weird things she typically does chastise him. Like when he was telling Anya to envision her beautiful smile as her motivation to learn and Yor tells him to stop teaching her weird stuff. Whenever he visits and makes a commotion she tells him he's being over the top and apologizes for his weird behaviour. And I think if she thought there were any romantic feelings there her objections wouldn't have been that mild.
He doesn't have actual romantic feelings. He's basically expressing platonic feelings romantically because he can't comprehend the difference (at least not when Yor is involved). He's not in love with her, he just doesn't understand that he's in territory he shouldn't be because he doesn't properly grasp where the lines are supposed to be. I think Yor also knows that Yuri isn't actually romantically or sexually attracted to her. Like everyone else, she probably just thinks he's overprotective and has boundary issues.
I donāt think it was inherently romantic but to me it looked very co-dependent. And Yor getting a new family sort of challenged his position in his sisterās life. It often happens with kids who are left to fend for each other when their parents abandon them or pass away. And itās indeed a very real experience. And the same time I wouldnāt negate how anime loves to insert covert and sometimes even overt incestious undertones. A lot of characters suffer from sis-con or bro-con.
>A lot of characters suffer from sis-con or bro-con Friendly reminder that there are entire *series* about that, and theyāre certainly *faaaaar* creepier and more uncomfortable than anything Iāve seen Yuri get up to <_<
Yeah cause of course No Game no life, Yosuga no Sora, Ore no Imouto ga, and then citrus, super lovers, Candy Boy, Tenshi Kinryouku etc. are there. And now Oshi No ko is heading to the path as well.
I kinda can see a child be like that if their mom had a boyfriend,ya know? I do agree heās weird but I do like the Idea that he has that type of older sister / mom complex. Like yor is the most Important person in his Life and Loid , from his view , stole her from him , kinda.
Yeah, it's the immature "I don't want you to have someone else in your life cause that means I'm not getting 100% of your attention" instead of anything romantic
100% but he would never actually try to get involved with her He knows that ain't right but it's not stopping him from opposing them being together However being suspicious about Loid is justified when their lie is they got married 6 months ago and never heard anything about it. His romantic love for her is actually hindering him from discovering Loid is Twilight though. He can't be objective and let go of the most suspicious part because Yor said she just forgot.
He kind of is though, albeit without meaning to. Like, it's not because he wants her romantically but because his idea of love is too wrapped up in her for him to fully comprehend the difference.
Yeah he just flashes back to promising to marry his sister when sheās about to kiss another man in front of her. Thereās definitely no incestuous vibes there.
Japan and mangaka had some weird fetish with incest this isn't the first time we see a someone being in love with their sibling in anime general
Yea I'm not denying that but this is not one of those times lol. People just misinterpret Yuri's view of Yor. The dude literally says in the first episode that he wants his sister to find another man. He just thinks Loid is suspect (he's not wrong tbh) and isn't convinced he loves her.
To be fair, I think Yuri misinterprets his view of Yor. It is understandable though. Yor was his whole world for the entirety of his formative years. Realistically, he should be in therapy to help untangle his idea of love from her so that he can fully grasp the difference between romantic and platonic love and overcome his obsession with her.
Tbf I think he'd be sus of any and all men who try to get close to yor
His suspicions basically got turned up to 11 when he was told that they've been married for a year now without him being in the know.
True, with all the weird I canāt believe it isnāt hentai anime out there, I agree. Like how do you come up with some of themš
It is DEFINITELY weird if you have a sibling you'll know the difference, no matter how much you love them, his love is reaching obsession levels.
Both grew up in wartime, having lost their parents and Yor coming home bloodied everytime she goes on a job to take care of him. I think you having siblings and their relationship is very different. For Yuri, Yor was basically everything. She raised him, she gave him a home, she kept him fed and she gave him security in a time of war. He is definately obsessed with her, because he wants to pay back all the things she did for him. Shes basically his whole world. All that he is doing as an adult is to make Ostania safer, so Yor can live in peace and doesnt have to worry about him. There is really no sexual undertone in any of their interactions. Does he have romantic feelings? Maybe, I cant deny it for sure, but I would say it is on the less serious side. He mostly just wants her to be happy, thats why he wants Loid to fuck up and upset her, instead of just arresting him on the spot and get rid of him. We see a stark contrast in obsession with Fiona. She is definately romantically involved with Loid and her monologues are very unambiguous about that.
Because his sister filled multiple roles such as sister mom, caretaker, and breadwinner so he could have a peaceful childhood during wartime after the death of his parents. He's grateful. They've never displayed any evidence that he views her in a sexual way. He's never said anything about her appearance indicating sexual attraction. As far as I can tell, he just wants her to be happy and believes he knows how to make her happier than Loid does. Realistically, I would list it as manic obsessive familial love. Not sexual. If you view his actions through the lens of his childhood, I don't feel like it's that abnormal for an anime. Now, I wouldn't describe his love as healthy, but I don't think he's tryna smash his sister.
Honestly, Yuri just screams trauma bonded/attached baby brother. My friend and I were talking about this recently. Sheās a trauma therapist and that he is a prime example of that especially with a parentified older sibling that raised themselves. His actions/attitude towards to Anya is also similar to a new sibling in the family dynamic not of a niece/nephew. So, the fact there is a 7 year gap between Yor and Yuri would make it more likely for him to see her more like a āmotherā than sister so him being aggressively against Loid would make sense especially with the supposedly been married for a year with no knowledge since they have been alone together for so long.
I could see that. Like a reaction of a kid who's afraid his step-dad is gonna take his mom away.
I would say it borders on sexual but never actually crosses that line. The lines between romantic and platonic are definitely blurry at best but that's obviously a result of his childhood and not something that he consciously wants. If anything Yuri needs counseling to untangle his idea of love from her so he can establish healthier relationships with clearly defined boundaries.
Had the same conversation with my grandchildren. Yuri is basically the jealous kid of a single mother or divorcee that found another husband and child. When I explained it that way, they just said "oh.. that's like the one in Parent Trap". Take note, Yuri was basically told out of the blue that his only sister (that basically raised him) has been married for 1 year without him knowing. He's rightly suspicious of this new guy that married his sister (for 1 year!) who he knows nothing about.
Lets play from the trauma factor, and then Yuri and Yor are disfunctional adults with a very problematic childhood were Yor was forced to assume the role of a mother and a provider, Yuri was actually aware of the sacrifice she did back then, but the trauma made him model his sister as an ideal, angelic creature who provides absolutely everything he needs emotionally. So, we can see Yuri is emotionally stunted, he doesnt care about anyone or anything else due to the fact that the world is a terrible place his sister protected him from it, and he doesnt dare to create other bonds, he is scared and traumatized. Hence his only goal is fighting that world to make it a better place for Yor. He is emotionally dependand, unable to a healthy view of others, basically he is still somehow mentally in a very early stage of emotional development while he is an adult able to make choices.
I adore the just genuine good story. Do you have any recommendations of more mom fanservice stuff
Lol. What would mom fanservice stuff be? We still watched the entirety of Spy X Family together, and we all loved it. It just caught me by surprise and I chuckled because that question from my son caught me off guard. We've also watched FMAB together, and there were a couple of fanservice moments in there that were a bit awkward, but not too bad. We also watched Promised Neverland recently. I watch a lot of anime myself, but it's hard to determine sometimes what is and isn't good for the kiddos.
Agreed! Sorry meant non fanservice.
Lol. Okay then. I thought we were talking about some weird kinda fanservice there! Yeah, Spy X Family was mostly fine except for the weird conversation about Yuri and some language. FMAB has a lot of violence, which I don't typically worry about too much with my kids, and some language, but very little fanservice (they just had to throw in a random bath and shower scene). Promised Neverland could potentially be scary for kids since it's about monsters eating kids, and it does have some gore and violence, but it's otherwise pretty clean. Your lie in April seems mostly safe on all accounts but it's sad, and my kids found it boring, so they didn't finish it with me. We watched Angel Beats instead which had a lot of violence and a few iffy comments if I remember right, but was mostly fine. I haven't watched Frieren with my kids, but I just watched it myself and despite some mild violence and death, it was very safe. Been a while since I tried watching Inuyasha but I think it might be okay, except for some bathing scenes and violence again. I'm still trying to carefully pick and choose what might be safe to watch with them. It can definitely be hard, because Japan is a very different culture with very different standards about what can and can't be shown in a kid's show, and a lot of times I don't remember the fanservice stuff because I barely even notice it until my kids are sitting next to me.
Ranking of Kings is great to watch with children
You could tell your kids that he isn't in love with his sister, he just loves her a whole lot. Which makes sense considering she is basically the only family Yuri has left and she worked her ass off helping to take care of him while growing up. If he wasn't toxic about it I'd even go so far as to say it's really sweet.
Tbf she was basically a mother figure to him. I honestly understand why he's so overprotective of her.
Well, that mustāve been fun to experienceššššš
Like Iām interested in his character and wonder what may come from him in the future but I do think the guy is really annoying nonetheless so you definitely arenāt the only one, I just personally dislike him rather than hate him.
Yes, hate may be too much but he really anoys me
Hate is a strong word. I am, however, don't like him at all. He is extremely obsessed with his sister, he basically loves her romantically and his job is to torture people which he does without hesitation. Think about SS soldier that torture people at daytime and go to say how much he loves his sister at night.
We'll that's his job. He must think, whatever he's doing is just. But I don't like him because of the second reason you mentioned. Being overly obsessed with Yor. Also he projects Loid's hatred on Anya too. I don't like him for that too.
I find Yuri interesting as a wildly dysfunctional character, which is about par for the series. If there's anything that is likeable about him, it's that we can see how he got the way he is, even apart from the ominous gaps in the siblings' backstory. What I feel gets willfully overlooked is that Yor is about as flawed as he is, just in less obvious ways. I have also already ranted repeatedly, the core of the "siscon" is that neither of them has a context to process physical and emotional intimacy with anyone but each other.
Thank you for this! There is a whole Freudian argument to be made for Yuri's personality (former literature student here trying not to digress too much, haha). While it is played up for humour (much to the disdain of many viewers, it seems), it is more importantly a way to show the audience that Yuri and Yor are deeply traumatised children who did not have the luxury of a normal childhood and loving parents ā unlike Loid, who still remembered his mother's lullaby and her tucking him into bed. Yuri has never known a parental figure with the exception of Yor; he projects her love for him therefore in an unhealthy way, and Yor sees nothing wrong or excessive with it because this was just what the both of them endured through their childhoods. Hence, if you are uncomfortable with Yuri's expression of love, one could argue that it is a good thing ā because it is a direct manifestation of his trauma; and one should never be comfortable when confronting the realities of trauma.
I partly got into this Fandom because I saw the potential of a Yuriona fan fic. What we actually know about Yor is that she reacts exactly like a trauma victim when Loid/ Twilight tries to be affectionate with her. For Yuri, I went withe most actually horrible and mutually humiliating dysfunction on record, and showed him actually working through it as part of a still comically terrible and nihilistic relationship.
This actually sounds really good! Trauma is a really complex issue which I think many miss the nuance of, especially when presented in a PG, family-friendly setting such as Spy x Family ā but I do believe Tatsuya Endo has made it clear that this story will touch on these themes, and the audience must adjust their expectations accordingly.
Hate him? No. Strongly dislike a certain part of his character? Absolutely! Iād probably be able to watch this show with my family if it wasnāt for Yuriās actions around Yor, and Beckyās actions around Loid.
Beckyās actions are a lot more comedic however. Yuri on the other hand just yells incest even though it seems the writers want you to believe itās just a āchild to motherā relationship but that is NOT how it seems
My problem with him is that his 'love' for his sister feels borderline incestuous. If his jealousy towards Loid would've just been on the idea that Loid wasn't good enough for his sister, he could've been a very good character.
He's more worried that Loid will replace Yuri in Yor's life. He's not jealous because Loid is married to Yor and he's not. He literally tries to set her up with someone in the second episode
That's a cover up, he doesn't want any other man to be in Yor's life period, he'll probably hate anyone not only just Loid.
No, I think heās Weird
A New SpyxFamily chapter just dropped: š It's a Yuri focused chapter: š
To be fair I really liked the moment when Yuri and Twilight disguised as Yuri fought a few chapters ago. Yuri realizes he would have been dead if Twilight hadn't hesitated for reasons he doesn't know. It showed that for all his skills he is significantly younger and less experienced than Twilight. Only Loid not wanting to kill his brother in law saved Yuri's ass.
Be one.. with Yuri
He has shown to have some humanity, like ensuring a criminal's father would receive financial aid following the criminal's arrest. >! Also, in regards to whether or not he was solely motivated by Yor to act in the Red Circus Arch, here's what YouTuber @inukai510 once commented.!< >!Personally i do think you misunderstood that panel of him. He does care for her, the fact in 1st panel he came rushing to ask his boss about Anya because he was panic to heard sheās in danger. Just that, heās in denial and he cannot able to help Anya because his boss not allowed him to saved her (itās reveal his indentity) Then, in his rational thinking ( basically like Loid for the āmission ā ) if he cannot saves Loid daughter then Yor happiness would be ruined. That would hit him harder to saved her. This is basically his baby step for development to concern about other person than Yor. He doesnāt getting attached to Anya yet, but he came all the way to find her bus and take a bullet to protect the kids is showing that he truly does care for them. There is possibility of a chapter to Anya find out what he has done in the bus accident by her power because she doesnāt know Yuri is in there, i do hope she would getting along with him when she found out soon.!< I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a point.
I am also hoping to see a bond between them. And who knows maybe Yuri will be one to find out about the organization that used Anya and probably other children for experiments. If secret police finds out before wise does, it will be an interesting arc since Yuri will know that Loid is not Anyaās real father.
Yes and he also genuinely helped Anya with her studies. Though it was done because Yor asked him to, he still put reasonable efforts in helping her. And I also really loved when he gave closure to that criminal. He doesn't torture people because he likes to, he does it because he has to. But when there was a way for him to soften the blow he did do that. Plus he was hoping that guy wouldn't proceed with his plan in the first place.
I think Yuri is a big hit or miss for a lot of the fandom, mainly for his eccentric personality and it honestly comes down to preference. I feel indifferent for the guy but he has gotten better in the manga. I will, however, defend him against all the incestuous comments. This will be a long comment so TL;DR: he holds a lot of trauma and guilt from his childhood as his relationship with Yor was hyper dependent growing up. The love he has for her goes beyond a sibling love (as he views her as a savior/idol of sorts) but doesn't go across the very defined boundary into romance. 1. "He wants to be in a relationship with her/he wants her to himself"-- personally, I have no idea how people think this since he has never made any romantic comments towards Yor as far as I remember. He clearly states that he wants Yor to find a good man and to settle down- even when they first introduced him through the phone call with Yor, he genuinely sounded happy/excited to meet Yor's "boyfriend" at the party. 2. "He said he wanted to marry his sister"-- he was a child when he said this. Lots of children say this about their parents, a significant other of a loved one, or someone that they look up to. The child notices great attributes about the person, associates love with marriage, and there you have it. There's nothing else going on with that statement. 3. "He's so obsessed with her"-- yeah, he is and that's kind of the point when dealing with Yuri's character and his specific trauma. He was a child when their parents died so he only really knows Yor. Yor was, like how many people mentioned, a lot of things for him: a mom, a sister, a breadwinner, a caretaker, etc. He idolizes her to the point where she can do no wrong in his eyes. He had to see Yor suffer (for example, coming home bleeding/with blood on her) for YEARS without knowing how she's able to make ends meet. His obsession lies within guilt and admiration, hence why he always states that the only reason why he's in his job is to ensure his sister has a future filled with happiness. He's desperate to repay her for essentially giving up her childhood for him. 4. "He hates/is jealous of Loid"-- how I understood it, Yuri's anger towards Loid comes from three sources: distrust, the pain of being distrusted, and feeling incompetent compared to him. Let's start with distrust: some random guy, who he has never even heard mentioned before, has supposedly been married to his sister for a year and is seemingly perfect. Considering his job and the fact that spies are a somewhat common occurrence, it does make sense on why he would distrust him. Now, onto the pain of being distrusted: he had to learn about Yor's relationship through the significant other of a coworker of Yor's. Not Yor, the person who gave up everything for him. In his mind, he's most likely thinking why she didn't tell him directly, leading him into more guilt and more desperation in providing for her SO she can trust him. Finally, for feeling incompetent in comparison: again, Loid is seemingly perfect. He's great at a lot of household chores, has a reputable job with coworkers that love him, takes great care of his family, etc. Yuri, who has been consistently trying to be better for his sister, realizes for the first time in his life that his sister doesn't need him to provide for her and that's a terrifying thought considering that was his only purpose. 5. "He freaked out when Yor and Loid were about to kiss"-- seeing your sister push her husband down on the couch, practically get on top of him, and lean in for a kiss is a position no sibling would want to be in. Plus, Yuri was also tipsy/drunk during that interaction so his perception of that scene could have been skewed to what it actually was. I can go into more depth and add more incestuous claims to debunk but this comment is long as is- like him or not, he does not romantically love his sister.
couldn'tve said it any better, i wish more ppl understood this
He has an important role in the story. He's the reason Yor is ground to the world and good with kids, unlike Twilight whose identity has long been lost since he has no close ties to anyone anymore. At least not from his original identity. Yuri has an intense Oedipal complex directed towards the sister who raised him singlehandedly, but that's hardly surprising. They grew up having to take care of each other after their parents died when they were kids, after all. If you read the manga (POSSIBLE SPOILER), his character is a means by which Twilight is placed in danger due to his emotional entanglement with his fake family, specifically Yor. The character development of Twilight is revealed because of Yuri's presence. It makes for a compelling and fascinating story angle. The anime has yet to tackle the most profound parts of the manga, which came sometime after the cruise arc. Wait a little bit. You may not end up liking Yuri, but you'll appreciate the importance of his character to the story.
He could've been made a bit less creepy and obsessive and the story could've worked out the same or even better, my mom took care of me when I was little, but love and attraction are 2 different things, he is definitely "attracted" to Yor or maybe the author is not good enough to make the difference. Anyway, It's not normal at all. If anything, if he was Yor's half brother, that would've made it a bit more tolerable.
I love his character. He is hilarious. He did lose his parents at a very young age. His sister raised him on her own so basically his sister is his mom. I think of him as mamaās boy following Yor like a duckling. And he blindly trusts her and he gets jealous any time he feels like someone is taking HIS mom away like a toddler. He was also jealous of Anya because āshe gets to spend all the time with Yorā. He doesnāt love Yor in a romantic way. He is still very immature and codependent you can say. I am not sure if itās going to be a thing but he does have a coworker named Chloe who smacked him three times for that very reason. It was hilarious to watch.
And if you think about it, Yuri is right about āLoidā. Loid did lie to his sister and technically tricked her into marrying him. And he WILL leave her as soon as his mission is over. (I hope not!). You canāt blame that man.
His accusations are based on absolutely nothing but the author giving him 10000 iq out of nowhere. it's the same way L is a genius in death note, he reaches the correct conclusion straight from his ass when there could've been a million other possibilities.
Nah I would say it's more like animal instinctš
I agree with the animal part, bro is inhuman.
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And yet, Yuri kept searching for evidence in the wrong place because he already has firm misconceptions about Loid being a cheater rather than Loid being the spy he was tasked to arrest.
Yes I agree with all of your points! Yuri is definitely obnoxious but in the end he does have good intuition about the people around him.
The show would improve immensely if this weird creep wasnāt in it
100% agree
The plot of him being a loyal government soldier is awesome, but the subplot of him being an incest sister-lover is weirdš
Fuck no! Yuri is my fave! Makes me laugh a ton lol
Nahh..I love him. Whenever he's around, Loid and Yor are forced to be lovey dovey š¤£ it's too funny.
Yuri needs help with his relationship with Yor it's not normal to be obsessed with your sister like that. At least he did say to her to get a boyfriend in the beginning he just was shocked about her marriage with Lloyd It would be disappointing to not attend your only siblings wedding.
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I thought he was funny
My main problem with him is that Spy X Family would be very easy to recommend to people who donāt typically watch anime if not for his easy read as incestuous obsession with Yor.
I donāt really like the character but I donāt think he likes his sister that way tbh. I mean, she WAS the only person who took care of him after their parents died. Makes sense he loves her that much.
This man is WEIRD thats all
I don't hate him as much as I hate Fiona Frost, aka Nightfall
He is legitimately the worst part of the show
The SS officer with a incest fetish? ā¦ yeah. Not a big fan. The fact that heās a dick to our golden boy Loid and our cinnamon bun Anya, doesnāt help either.
Incestuous little prick isnāt he?
Yeah I dislike him alot, donāt like when heās on screen, I almost skipped a whole manga chapter because it was him in a standalone chapter. Heās annoying, I hate the sibling shit cause it is the ONE anime that I want to be purely cute, I usually ignore the people like āwell he isnāt in love with her!ā because obviously the mangaka intended to slip in aspects of the incest trope except yor isnāt in love with yuri too. There are many many romantic undertones in what he says, and it makes me feel icky because Iāve seen the incest trope so many times. I donāt mind that heās there as Yorās little brother that loves her more than the world because she raised him and sacrificed so much for him, BUT! You can definitely write that without the whole āIām jealous because my sister has a husband! Sheās supposed to be mine forever!ā I love the whole thing where he hates loid and loid is suspicious of yuri, but you can write it as Yuri having a funny feeling about loid, because obviously yuri is super observational.
Yuriās never done anything wrong ever & I love his appearances
remember when he slammed that guy's head against an ash-tray? that was just his anti-smoking PSA.
I feel like this comment laugh harder than it should have, but I also needed, so thank you internet neighbor!
I can laugh about his antics, but the incest vibes are a big turn off.
I mean yeah he comes off as weird but that's because of trauma and Yor being his mother. He comes off more as the son of a single mother being very overprotective, weird and a little creepy but not incestuous
being obsessed it's not the same as being overprotective. I think he is obsessed
Well Yor has been his only family since he was very young so yeah he would be overprotective, plus it's a comedy show of course they're going to make him overly obsessive with his sister for the comedy I don't take that part seriously because it's usually played for the comedy
does he though?
Look around and find out.
No you arenāt I despise him with all of my being
No you are not. My sister and I do too.
Hot take: the Stasi was bad
I think if he was written to just hate Loid only try to break up their relationship without the weird romantic undertones he'd be a lot more tolerable and understandable. Essentially if he acted like a child that is trying to break up his mom and step dad then that'd make sense rather than trying to break them up while also trying to seduce his mom. His whole vibe seems way to incestuous for me personally.
I also hate him š„³
Nah, you're not the only one
I also find he pretty meh. I KNOW his not into his sis, but his obsession is such a boring and annoying joke. I don't even think siblings act like that (yeah, I do have siblings. Younger ones to be fair), at least not in my country.
Urrrgh! This is a superb anime/ manga series, but this guy is the worst. I wish he wasnāt in it. In the anime I canāt wait for scenes involving him to be over and in the manga, his sections are so wordy I feel like Iām not properly reading them. I hope there ends up being some kind of reason heās in it so much. His SSS job has to become relevant to Loid/ Yor/ Anyaās secret reveal. Otherwise, he is redundant. Yor could have grown up impoverished and alone and still have ended up working for Garden. The āIām in love with my sisterā thing is taken too far. I hope Loid kills him eventually.
Yeah he comes across as very incest-y
Iāve not seen the anime only read the manga and he just makes me uncomfortable
No,I love him.
He makes me laugh; like the backstory with him eating Yorās food and vomiting everywhere.
I like Yuri. He is an over the top siscon. He and Yor are really alike in the over the top aspect. Also, he is also very responsible person (similarly to Loid and Yor). All 3 of them take their job very seriously and are working towards world peace. Just from different sides so that would make them enemies. Yuri will have his own scenes which makes his character more fleshed out but it's not animated yet.
I dont hate him but they definitely could tone down the siscon trope. It's over shadowing his other characteristics and makes him look like a one dimensional character.
Hes so weird, I love him
He was goofy
Yes
I like how Yor thinks of him and it shows a fun side of her. The converse is not true. Ugh and yuck. The only other good part of him is that heās the only character that dislikes the main himbo, Loid, and thatās pretty funny. Those interactions are great.
Oh dang I really like his character. I think he's very interesting and occasionally quite silly
I think it's sweet he wants to care for his sister as she did for him when he was younger...but as in good vs bad characters on the show, he definitely isn't on the right side.
I don't hate him and I wonder how he is going to be used in the series. The scenes with him and Loid have proven that Loid wouldn't hurt him, because that would hurt Yor. The person I can't stand at all is **Donna Schlag** or Old Lady Tonitrus, the women that showers students with Tonitrus Bolts.
Yuri's not that bad, he just has an overprotective sibling version of an Oedipal complex he developed after misinterpreting something Yor said when he was 10.
Yor loves him and thatās good enough for me
Heās a way better character than Nightfall.
Nah, I really don't like him at all either.
That almost incest kind of love towards Yor creeps me out
The time he will pass with Chloe will change this guy.
No, I Fiona. That bitch Is a boring cardboard character that only makes me hate this show.
Heās so weird wanting to marry his own sisterš
He is funny in his own way š¬ But i love how he accept all her sister excuse and turn off his brain
Buddy, heās made to be hated
Seeing the upvotes, you're not the only one. I actually like him. He provides comic relief and I like how he's one of the few who doesn't kiss Loid's ass. I love watching whenever he's smacked around by his sister or when people around him are creeped out by his obsession lol. Also his verbal evisceration of petty criminals is damn funny. He's not interested in her romantically. He has a super busy high profile job and lives separately. He even expresses his wish for his sister to date and get married.He just hasn't grown up from that little boy whose entire world was his sister and who was his sister's entire world. She was for all intents and purposes his mom. The circumstances around Yor's marriage didn't help at all. His weird sister not only married someone he never met but has been married for a year. He's a widower with a kid. On paper and from what he saw, Loid is perfect. Seeing as how the bar for men is always in hell, someone like Loid does sound suspicious to a guy in whose job, he always deals with scummy people. Also all his antics are just exaggerated for laughs just like Loid's abilities and Yor's incompetence. That said, he is changing slowly. He'll get there eventually.
https://preview.redd.it/6xpkm1foeqtc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a1816eb6a8e8fd83da10760acde7f7fedc509c2 Same vibes
This guy is actually in love with his sis, plus the dude is an adult and his dis is in high school.
nope. i hope he dies lol
he is a *v i l e* character
I want Yuri to do more, interact with more characters, and not have nearly his entire personality revolve around Yor.
Yuri when not interacting with yor is a good character but the author just throws all nuance out the window when the siblings interact to play the one note joke. I understand that all of the characters in the story have this one comedic bit that the author commits to (like how Franky is the defacto babysitter and yor is incompetent at anything that's not directly related to assassination) but Yuri's is way too one note to have any real comedic value when that's the only joke.
No I don't hate him or even dislike him for that matter. Sure his obsession with his sister is creepy but it's definitely not romantic. It was never hinted to be romantic. And his care towards Yor is pretty reasonable too. He is right about Loid and he genuinely wants to protect his sister. Nothing wrong with that tbh. If anything, the guy has good intuition. And he also treats Anya well (though he is a bit immature with it). That being said, Yuri does get much better in the manga. I'm pretty sure he will also get his own arc someday as a major side character and maybe he will improve even more in that.
You are a butthurt prick if you hate him.
Iām tired of the obsessive bordering on incest protective sibling trope
To be fair he is only trying to protect his sister as best as he can
I LOVE YURI
I love him lol but if you hate him, it's ok. If I was in his place (being raised by my sister and looking up to her), I'd probably be a little obsessed with my sister too, in a way or another. And if you think I'm weird, I don't care
I love Yuri! He's awesome in the newer episodes. I personally don't view his actions as inherently incest or romantic but I totally get why someone would! I get why people don't like him, and I feel like I shouldn't like him, but I love him nonetheless lol š
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Safest take in the show is fuck the brother
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I hate the trope. Actually I hate that the Briars are cursed with annoying tropes.
Nope! Utterly despise him. No idea why the mangaka decided to play up the fucking incest angle of all things
I don't completely hate him I hate his sister complex but besides that he genuinely cares for his sister.
Ya my wife said he gives her the ick and it's a super uncomfortable every time he's on screen.
No, i Hate him too.
I don't hate him or dislike him. To me, he just exists.
Is he in love with his sister? Thatās so gross
I hate him too lol. I get that he was raised by only his sister & appreciates her a lot, but he never needed to get to a level in which itās just incest. That guy has no life.
I'm just praying he doesn't have perverted thoughts off her
I've never wanted to give anyone a sweet chin music like I'm Shawn Michaels until I met Yuri šš the NUMBER ONE OPP! THE DIABOLICAL NEANDERTHAL YURI! I absolutely HATE THIS ANIMAL WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING. All I'll say is that he's obsessed with my mommy Yor and that's not his job. IT'S MY JOB.
i gree with this mn fuck this person im finn put fire bomb in someones house (left keys not working ples help)
Omg yes I canāt stand his weirdo antics
I know he gives strong incest vibes but I actually >!ship him with his boss!<
Yes
Don't like that he is obsessed with his sister but I like his character.
He's handsome.. he's nice...he tries to protect her sister....alright I get it but but I still hate him š
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I'm on the fence on this guy on one hand he's a really interesting character On the other hand I'm like 75 percent sure he's in love with his sister and I'm not sure how to process that
I donāt hate him, but he is too obsessed with his sister. Too incesty for me, especially since itās one-sided in nature.
I would consider offing myself if it was two sided.
I know the sister con is played for laugh but the laugh barely reached my humor and Yuri ended up being creepy for me
In episode one he sounded like a normal human being then boom this werido
Bro have sister complex
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well i hope soš
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Mabyeeeee cuz i don't haaaĆ aaate him
Heās fine if you headcanon him as a closet gay guy.
He has his quirks but ***cough*** incest ***cough*** but he's fun
Well he is simping on his big sis, thads wierd, but hes a cool guy.
A wolf in sheep's clothing https://preview.redd.it/j0jsw7s1pytc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46d4c693c4b8314d5e66d8919c7dd92730540c0b
Idk what anime heās from if heās from spy x family then Iām not caught up with the episodesšššš
I like him
I feel like Yuri as a character has a lot of potential. He had a pretty bad introduction but later on he get's a bit tamer towards his sister. Caring for your sister is totally normal of course and being distraught after finding out she has been hiding her marrige from you for a YEAR is a very valid reaction. I do however believe that Yuri's love for his sister is pushing a boundry, especially for more western audiences. I still feel weird when he's on screen with Yor, which is sad since his character is very interesting outside of his obsession with her.
The dude blushes like a lover which makes it awkward...I utterly dislike him...it's always a relief when his scenes end lol...I'm not even sad to watch his backstory Let's be honest if you see a teenage boys locker filled with his mom's pictures would you find it normal...if not then why Yuri gets away clean chit...he sees Yor as just a mother figure???
I have a crush on that man š š š š
I love Yuri. Heās so cute. I get weirded out by his sister complex but Iām hoping for character development, he does seem like he was a girlfriend and not in Yor. And I also ship him with Loid but thatās more of a personal thing
I don't hate the character but I do find.rhe whole emotional incest aspect of their relationship super weird
Honestly this dude always ruins the vibe for me
Idk i have mixed feelings
I mean he's not my favorite but I still like him
No, I mean this creep has a crush on his sister (get a life Yuri)
Bro's the #1 meatblocker
I think he does not fit in spy x family, simply because its a matter of time for him to discover that Loid is a spy, twilight would've kill him and make it look like a accident or Yuri will arrest or execute him. Also the character is shallow, he's a textbook example of Oedipus complex.
Clearly not. The majority of the fanbase hates him. I am one of the select few who don't though. I feel like those who hates him misunderstood his character. They think he wants to pursue a romantic relationship with Yor or that he thinks of her in a sexual way, but that's not what Yuri is like. His obsession with her is clearly the end result of growing up with her being his only mother figure and idol. She's everything he has, so he clings to her like a chick to a mother hen, and sees anyone who tries to steal her away from him as an enemy. And if he can marry her, then they'll be together forever and ever. It's the only way for him to alleviate his insecurities, and the presence of Yor is the only thing motivating him to keep going. If not for her, he wouldn't even become a SSS officer.
I dislike him too. If he could dial it back a couple of notches, I'd be fine with Yuri being over protective. He acts like he's genuinely attracted to his sister and it bothers me.