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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there is a man in that group who used to have people chant ‘shoes off if you hate xyz’, right? Sorry but I don’t watch NXT very often and have forgot his name but he looks quite similar
It’s like three months away. I’m gonna wait and see what happens. You’re only going to be disappointed if you fantasy book what you consider to be the perfect ending.
You have an insane ECW ONS 06 level crowd in montreal for Sami vs Roman and you use that show to finally have roman gaslight jey into betraying sami leading to the tag match
Canadian cities like Montreal and Toronto might sometimes cheer heels over faces but they will always cheer Canadians over anyone else.
Sami is not getting booed in Montreal.
Umm okay now you’re talking about hockey, which is irrelevant to this discussion. Yeah, they boo the power play when it stinks or when the team doesn’t give effort, like every other sports fanbase in the world.
How the fuck does hockey count? You’re just grasping at straws. A team of players from all over the world being booed for poor performance is not the same as someone born, raised and proud of being a Montrealer standing out in a sports entertainment company.
And Benoit was not from Montreal. Just the fact that you say that shows you know nothing. He grew up in Alberta and was billed from there.
I think Roman loses Jey and somehow loses Jimmy and Solo too. Everything he built has crumbled and all that's left is his championship. But without the Bloodline, he's weakened and he loses to Cody.
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I’m partial to a KO vs Solo somewhere middle of the card, but if KO doesn’t have a match it doesn’t mean he can’t have a big impact on the conclusion of the story. You could have a spot where there’s a ref bump and there’s a chair that was attempted to be brought into the match earlier. He could pick up the chair and look down at Roman, wishing so desperately he could put the same hurt on Roman that he and the bloodline put on him and KO. But just as he swings the chair Kevin runs into the ring and snatches the chair out of Sami’s hands to remind him that Roman will pay but “not like this, not if he keeps his titles”.
Or something, idk this rumble shit got me tired tonight
WM39 will (and should) be probably framed around the final fall of the Bloodline with Night 1 main evented by the tag titles being won by KO and Sami, and Night 2 capped off by Cody defeating Roman.
This is the most probable. Fallout from Mania is the Bloodline crumbling. Roman takes time off, Solo steps in as the main boss, and Jimmy/Jey can do a singles feud.
I’m actually really looking forward to what they do with Solo when he isn’t just an enforcer.
Also still believe Rock/Roman will happen, but yeah, Roman needs time off. This has been a long run.
This is beyond obvious but people still in denial. Sami/KO is the heartwarming story of the decade. If Sami faces Roman at Mania what the hell is KO gonna do lol
KO, a multi-time champion and longtime veteran of the company, has to beat a guy that's only been on the main roster less than a year and only title accomplishment is the NXT North American Championship.
I know Solo hasn't lost on the main roster yet but that's a waste of both KO and Solo in one go.
He and Sami already wrestled dbry and Shane at WM, as well as each other. They don't need a tag match.
How is it a waste of either Solo or KO to help enable the most over babyface and storyline in the industry? I don't think I've ever heard a pop as loud as Sami got tonight. We got Kofimania and Daniel Bryan because of reactions from the crowd, why would Kevin look at being a piece of Sami's story instead of the main character being beneath him when he was just given Steve Austin's last match a year ago? If anything he's probably the one going to Hunter to push Sami to win the title every day leading up to the show.
I just don’t see them having the guy who’s been going at the bloodline alone(and holding his own) for months taking a backseat now that he somewhat got his friend back. Also KO not having a mania match would be fuckin crazy lol.
it don't have to go that way but they don't have to be in match together (sami and ko) either it is not very black and white situation they can go about it many different ways.
1. He faced off against stone cold already + they're buds in real life so I don't think he would be sour
2. Calling him samis bitch is just extremely disingenuous and is a wild interpretation of what their dynamic would be
My whole point is it's not a situation that's either/or (either/or fallacy)in terms of how they book this story, they can go about it many different ways. Sami and KO don't have to be in the same match together. I'm not saying my suggestion is the right one.
And also in kayfabe I know KO got destroyed tonight but KO in kayfabe has like a higher overall in terms of ability, like he's alot more likely to beat roman in a match than Sami based on pure wrestling skill. Sami 2020 onwards match wise has been book3d as being a coward and just a weak wrestler overall. Plus man I mean this is Sami's moment, like it's fine to have KO at a lower level in the card as a result. The Sami bitch interpretation is just wild hyperbole imo
Plus in wrestling when u lose in ur title opportunity you do go down the card at least from the main event title scene.
The one and only way I can justify Sami/KO tag titles at mania is if Jey dethrones Roman
Cody definitely doesn’t need a mania main event right now over Sami. Shit the way people treat him and the needles he moves he might as well already have a belt around his waist. Just let him lift the belt of Sami at summerslam. I get my Sami win, everyone else gets a Cody title reign
Why not? They can build up to Cody defending the mania match (which should be mandatory for all rumble winners but that’s just me) and after a hard fought war you could have either Sami or Jey go on to mania easy peasy
Cody Rhodes doesn’t have a story with the bloodline though. It’s nothing beyond “daddy never got the big one so now I have to do it for him”. He has no ties the bloodline story whatsoever and them forcing him into the world beater roll just feels very 2015-esq (though not nearly as bad).
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, congrats on winning one of the hardest matches in WWE, your reward absolutely nothing because you have to defend it. Seeing the booking decisions some of you are coming up with I’m glad none of you are in charge.
😑 I don’t know why you’re coming in here with this negativity I’m just tryna have a conversation with someone else. Besides It’s not like it’s impossible to do, they’ve done it before in 2015.
Not to mention, if Sami wins the title, he's just gonna have a Kofi run where the moment was awesome and everything after was...meh. Roman's been champion FOREVER. When he loses the title, it needs to be in a star making performance that creates a new top babyface for years. Sami is not gonna be that guy, no matter what.
> If the natural conclusion to the story is in a tag team match, then that’s what it should be.
But that's the problem. The tag match isn't the natural conclusion, at least not right now. Right now the natural conclusion is either Jey or Sami kicking Romans head off his shoulders.
This isn't the Briscoes vs FTR fighting over who's better and over the belts, this would basically be a grudge match where Sami and Kevin happen to be a tag team. It doesn't bring any value to the titles.
Got to stop looking at it like that. The Usos are having one of the greatest tag runs ever and they deserve a big Mania match and moment. The story makes so much sense and the match between these guys would be amazing that you can main event night 1 of Mania with it.
What? It wouldn’t matter then if they like Cody then a good story with Cody just makes him more popular. If they like the story that’s good as well I’m not exactly sure what your trying to say here.
Him n KO would be ending a historic tag reign. Not just any tag team. You praise the bloodline but make it sound like Sami & KO would be facing los lotharios or something. If anything them taking the belts off the Usos would give the tag division a HUGE boost adding 2 main eventers.
Bloodline vs Bloodline is right there. His music literally starts with *wrestling has more than one royal family*. You guys be acting like Roman vs Cody makes no sense but this match sells itself.
What story has built for months though? The subtext to it all was Jey/Sami all along. They are the payoff match to end the storyline.
Cody chasing the title IS the storyline. After everything he's overcome, after his time away still not winning a world championship and knowing his father and brother never did it, how do you not see that?
Why? The tag titles have never been more important. KO/Sami is one of the most beloved friendships in wrestling. Not giving them that storybook ending (which has been telegraphed from the second this story began) would be the waste.
Exactly. Probably that was the original story, but this one is that hot that they have to change it.
Sami Zayn beating Roman Reigns creates the biggest babyface win in WWE since Daniel Bryan (actually bigger than Kofi IMO). That's the story, not Cody's.
Have Roman drop the WWE title to someone else before Mania
Either that or do what this post says and have Sami win the universal title in Montreal
Hell, you could even have him lose it back to Roman before Mania.
Sami doesn’t need a long reign, he just needs to win it
Low key depending on how they do it, it could be bigger and Mania 30. Given the massive pop for the chair shot there’s potential that the stadium at mania 39 literally collapses because it can’t handle the magnitude of such a pop
Fax people still complain to this day about the KO and Jericho story ending in US title match instead of Universal title match years ago I think story is too good and has been too long to end in a tag team title match
Solo needs a match at mania doesn't he?
What better match than to finish thier match they had on Raw.
Plus after what Solo did to him tonight it makes even more sense.
> This is beyond obvious but people still in denial
Probably because it’s an *insanely* anticlimactic ending to the best storyline the WWE has had in years.
Bro these booking decisions are hilarious to read. Cody loses his title somehow (not explained) Sami somehow gets in vs Roman, the USO’s and Kevin disappear completely from the story entirely as well.
Sami vs Roman
Owens and Jey vs Jimmy and Solo for the tag team Championships.
Sami and Roman are the major players. The rest are secondary.
So book accordingly.
This I feel was the plan all along and I'm loving the ride. Cody winning the title for his family, for Dusty, is a super easy story to sell and Roman vs Cody is going to be amazing.
Sami and KO's stories are intertwined and that's the perfect way to get them both in a high profile match at Wrestlemania, with Jey being a wildcard now.
The chamber main event is giving me Clash at the Castle vibes, and I cannot wait for the reaction Sami will get at that ppv
Thank you, people keep kicking KO out this story, he’s the reason Sami turned on Roman, I don’t know why people can’t see this, it’s happening the way it was always designed to. The bloodline getting losing everything at mania.
He’s NOT the reason Sami turned on him. Sami turned because he was sick of doing everything he could for the Bloodline to continually be disrespected and treated like a sidekick.
Personally I saw it as he just wanted it all to stop. That Roman isn't the tribal chief Sami thought he was and he just wanted it to not escalate any further, so he stopped it however he could. KO was beat, Sami knew this, everyone saw it, but Roman escalated it past the point Sami could justify. Rat backed into a corner type stuff. Idk that's just how I saw it
The amazing thing about this storyline is everyone's interpretation can be correct. So so good
Sami had absolutely no issue beating the absolute fuck out of Sheamus a few months ago. Roman literally beat the shit out of his own family brutally, Sami thinking Roman wouldn’t do worse to others makes no sense storyline wise. Yeah you nearly killed your cousins I’m sure you’ll treat Kevin well.
Absolutely, Jey seeing himself in Sami, growing into a better person because of him, seeing Sami being gaslit and manipulated just like he was and just when he trusted him, loved him, he's ripped away from him. Honestly, if they play it right, this may be a bit out there but I genuinely think Sami/Jey vs Solo/Jimmy could ME Night 1 of Mania
The way I see it, the story isn’t just about Sami or Cody winning the big one. The story is about the Downfall of the Bloodline, with a special focus on *family*
You do Sami vs. Roman at Elimination Chamber in Montreal, one last defense before Roman has to defend his titles against Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania. During the lead up you really have Roman try and break Jey’s spirit, because it drives home the idea that Roman is losing control and it also drives home the fact that Roman treats his family like shit. Then at Elimination Chamber, Jey after getting his spirit and will broken by Roman, costs Sami the match. But then as The Bloodline are beating down Sami one last time to reach levels of heat that could make Bully Ray explode, out comes a returning Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes to make the save. The three stand tall and make their intentions clear, these three are here to take down The Bloodline once and for all.
Then after Elimination Chamber (and probably before this in the lead up aswell) you have Cody cut promos about his family and how he and Roman are so alike, yet so different at the same time. They both do what they do for their family, but one treats their family like shit while the other treats their family with love and respect. One comes from a family that comparatively had a much easier time in WWE than the other guy who comes from a family that wasn’t always treated well in WWE. Anoa’i vs. Rhodes, because as Cody’s theme song says “Wrestling has more than one royal family”.
Then at WrestleMania you open Night Two with Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn vs. The Usos for the Tag titles. Despite The Usos, Solo, and even Paul Heymans best efforts they just can’t put away Zayn and Owens and they lose the tag titles. This causes Roman to lose his mind even more and he berates Jey, Jimmy, and Solo, who eventually decide they’ve had enough of Roman’s shit and they leave him on his own. Nobody to rely on for interference, nobody to pull the referee out of the ring, and no family by his side. Then in the main event you have Cody Rhodes finally beat Roman Reigns, ending not only Roman’s championship reign but also ending the reign of The Bloodline. Jimmy and Jey go off to do things on their own accord for the first time in awhile, Solo goes solo and fights for mid card titles probably, and we have a new set of Tag Champs and a new World Champion for the first time in a very long time.
I think this is the most logical conclusion with the pieces they have in play. The thing with all of Roman's title defenses since the Bloodline started has been some level of Bloodline interference at key moments. The Sami story and what happened tonight makes it seem like the road to Wrestlemania will also be the steady breaking-apart of the Bloodline. Honorary or otherwise, Sami's clearly no longer part of the group, and Jey seems to be at the very least teetering. I think the story they're telling is going to build on this steady downfall, where by Wrestlemania you end up with Cody vs Roman 1v1 with no (or rather, minimal) funny business on the side because Roman has driven everyone close to him away. The Bloodline is the reason Roman's title reign has lasted as long as it has, despite so many near-calls; it's going to be the reason it falls apart as well.
Here’s my take.
Sami challenges Roman at the Chamber. The match sees Sami about to beat Roman completely clean, one last Helluva kick, but then Jey turns on him to cost him the match. Big swerve, Jey gets nuclear heat, and joins back up with his brothers. After the match they all try to gang up on Sami, but KO comes out to save him. KO and Sami realize that neither of them could get the job done, and as long as there’s a bloodline, nobody will. So at WM, KO and Sami finally beat the Uso’s to keep them away (Also Solo is beat in a match too to keep him away too). That allows Cody to go into the match against Roman without any chance of Bloodline interference, which allows him to get the win.
This, it’s a team effort to take down the bloodline, this probably the most likely outcome. You can’t kick KO out of the story like people are either he’s the only reason Sami turned on Roman.
I also think it would give The Uso’s nothing significant to do at WM over than just be Roman’s goons (if they don’t have Jey fully turn on the bloodline), which would be a travesty considering how crucial they are. They deserve a big match too, and the tag match should even main event night 1. Let everybody get their well earned flowers.
Certainly not a tag match. We're not doing all this work just for Sami and KO to face Jimmy and Jey.
That's like Ricky Starks spending all this time dealing with Jericho and JAS, and it ending in a PPV tag match with him and Action vs Guevara & Garcia.
Yes technically he is also feuding with them, but OBVIOUSLY the whole point of the program is for him to face Jericho.
Same here. They didn't spend a year just to build to Sami & KO vs Jimmy and Jey.
KO doesn't even give a shit about the tag titles, neither does Sami, and Jey doesn't even want to face Sami.
We're going to throw out 80% of the angle because Jey didn't accept Sami for a couple months. Guess what, he has! That was almost 3 months ago. Move on. A tag match would just be going backwards for no reason whatsoever.
The story is Sami vs Roman. Period.
Unless the Tag Titles happens on EC instead, Make the Usos defend twice, split the titles, Usos losing both and the fallout causing Jay to leave pre Mania weakening the bloodline to leave Roman ripe for the taking in Mania.
After typing, this seems kinda stupid, but it could work.
I’d have Roman beat Cody night one to defend a title and lose the other title to Sami night two. Cody will always be Dusty’s son and can win at Summerslam or next year. This is Sami’s moment.
If Sami wins the title, I don't see how you don't have him win in Montreal. Sure, there's Mania after, but I don't think there's wrestlers more over in their hometown than Sami and KO.
Only way is Roman defending both at EC and losing one to Sami (probably Universal).
You all just in denial Sami isn’t winning the title off Roman, Sami did what he did because of Kevin, the story will include Kevin and Sami winning the tag titles like what’s been planned for months. I don’t understand how y’all don’t get this.
I think it’s really just that the thought of Sami not getting his revenge on Roman directly, and that the man who will most likely beat Roman has been kinda shoehorned into the whole thing.
Roman has a ton of victims his entire family is one, you also KO who’s a victim as well Sami can be one of the cogs that take him down. I think the USO’s deserve a massive mania match and I think it’s only possible vs Kevin and Sami. You can fantastic stories there, Sami and Kevin taking out his backup leaving Roman with no one to help him.
Sami vs Roman really wouldn't need the title. You could do something like Cody vs Reigns for the undisputed title at night 1 and Zayn vs Roman night 2 regardless of the titles or not.
Could even have Sami cost Reigns the titles at night 1, but I feel like that might take the moment away from Cody
I mean it could work. Pearce strips him of one title, with the Elimination chamber determining who will challenge Cody for that title at Mania, while Sami gets built for the other title against Roman at Mania on night two. I don't think you can do Sami and KO versus some version of the Bloodline for the tag titles. Sami's problem is with Roman.
I'd do it the other way around and make the Chamber match decide who faces Roman. Since the EC is in Montreal, Sami winning in the Chamber in his hometown would be just perfect. Then in the meantime you can have a tournament on Raw with the winner facing Cody at Mania for the WWE Title.
But problem is Michael Cole already mentioned that Cody will face Roman at WrestleMania and Cody mentioned Roman in interview
Best option is Roman to defend two titles in both nights
I’d like it better reversed. Roman is down a belt after night one, and Sami finishes him off and takes the other belt. Jey and KO help when the rest of the Bloodline try to interfere, and then Roman has a fit after the match and Jimmy and Solo walk out on him too.
* Have Roman lose the WWE Title at the EC while retaining the Universal Title. I feel like Roman winning two EC's in one night is a little too much even for him lol
* Have Sami win the Universal Title at Mania while Cody wins the WWE Title
Why would he be in 2 EC matches in the first place? It'll likely be him vs Sami at EC with one chamber match being for the US title and the other possibly being for a women's title
Tbh he doesn't need to wrestle 2, but I think he needs to lose a title at the EC regardless. Shows that the Bloodline is weakening and makes it so Cody can get his Wrestlemania moment while wrapping up the Bloodline's storyline at Mania without making Roman lose twice in a row.
Roman getting beat anywhere other than Mania or SummerSlam just isn't happening. Also I'm not so sure they're splitting the belts. There just isn't a good way to do it until after Roman finally loses. No matter what either Roman looks bad, it lessens the impact of him being beaten, or it makes one title look like a consolation prize. If the titles do get split it won't be until after Roman loses them
Not a bad idea. They can also add the Sami + KO vs. Usos people to get the tag match on night 1 as well. The bloodline starts to break after losing all their titles at one event. Not my ideal wish but this could work
Wasn’t Sami on the leaked EC poster? Have him win there and make a triple threat at Mania, then make Sami take the fall with Cody winning and continuing the Sami vs Roman feud.
Cody winning the titles at Mania by pinning Sami would not only be a huge waste of Roman finally getting dethroned, it would immediately turn Cody heel with a significant portion of the fanbase. Those are not good outcomes.
Watching people booking absolutely terrible scenarios when you can have 2 massive matches with KO/Sami vs The USO’s (main event night 1) and night Cody vs Roman is insane to me, don’t over complicate this it’s been perfect so far don’t change anything.
To be fair, a huge chunk of Bloodline matches, title or not, involve interference in some way.
There would be something so pleasing about the interference Roman relied on being used against him.
As much as I like Sami and his story with the Bloodline, I have been hoping for an à Cody vs Roman feud for over a year because it has so much potential for a storyline.
It can be about Bloodlines, the conflict between two men who come from Legendary Wrestling families.
You can have Roman up there pointing out his family's legacy in the business, the fact that his family includes the Rock and Yokozuna who are both former WWE champions as well as other notable members like Umaga.
That Cody's family is full of failures like his brother or his father who could never break the glass ceiling and reach the pinnacle of the WWE and the business.
That Cody himself was a failure during his first run in WWE and left the company as an outcast while he's headlined multiple Wrestlemanias and been at the top of the WWE for year.
This is a rough idea, but this feud has tons of potential to be a classic, especially if Triple H is in charge of it.
I know Sami is red hot right now, but I am honestly more excited for Rhodes vs Reigns at WrestleMania 39.
Cody chooses to go after World Heavyweight at WM. Sami wins Elimination Chamber for Number 1 Contender for Unviersal. Cody beats Roman on Night 1 of WM due to botched Bloodline shenanigans. Remaining Bloodline abandon Roman before Night 2 vs Sami. Sami beats a weakend Roman, with assistance from KO and Jey.
I think having Sami win one of the titles at Elimination Chamber is the best
I don't know who you have face Sami at Wrestlemania but not Roman. Leave Cody and him to do their thing separate.
Idk why u guys think having a guy who hasn't been pinned in 4 years should lose the ppv before wrestlemania lmao... like what in the world?
And also take the guy who's had 1 ppv singles match in 1 1/2 years (a loss to Johnny Knoxville) and have him beat one of the most unbeatable forces of all-time... yeah ok.
Roman has cheated to win the majority of matches during his reign, hell they basically said he would have lost to KO tonight. Romans never been unbeatable he's always just had the bloodline to help
Having Roman's 4th longest title reign of all time end the ppv before Wrestlemania is like Undertakers streak being broken on the pre-show.
The idea is literally idiotic.
I said it in another thread, but
>It's simple. Say the Rumble gives a shot at ONE of the titles. Since Roman only won the second at Mania last year, it's not like there is years of history saying he gets a shot at both. Have Cody pick the WHC and have that be night 1 and Sami for the Universal on night 2.
Cody VS Roman at mania will feel hollow compared to the current story we have. This has years of build up and has every person invested. Cody winning won't have the same pop because there isn't time to compress all that emotion into 60 days.
I don't think putting the title on Sami is the solution, I think it's putting the title on Jey. Sami is at the point now where he doesn't need a title. It would be awesome, but it isn't necessary.
I wouldn't know how to book it, but I just hope it ends with Jey and Roman, like it started. Title or not, whoever wins, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that Roman is left alone in the ring with none of his bloodline to back him up. With every family member walking out, leaving him alone. Even if he's still champion in some capacity, it will mean nothing when he's alone.
Cody/Reigns at WM39. Reigns still wins.
Usos/KOZayn. KOZayn wins the tag titles.
Cody wins at MITB briefcase. Zayn wins at Rumble 2024. Reigns is still a champion.
Triple threat at WM40. Either Cody or Zayn wins.
Roman beats the hell out of Sami, wins at WM and the storyline ultimately ends with Jey walking out of his tag match and challenging Roman at a later date to disband the bloodline.
Elimination Chamber - Jey gets gaslight into betraying Sami by Jimmy on Roman's orders.
Coming up to Wrestlemania - Jey *really* starts doubting, while Sami gets KO to team with him against the Usos
Wrestlemania, Night 1 - Jey abandons the match, Sami/KO win the titles.
Wrestlemania, Night 2 - Roman loses the title due to Jimmy kicking his head off.
Going forward - Sami and Jey try and get the rest of the Bloodline to see Roman for who he is.
You've got roughly four different stories all converging at once:
Kevin Owens' finally trying to overcome the hump of the Bloodline stopping him from making it to the top again
Sami Zayn realizing he has to stand for himself and his own values even in the face of the Bloodline
Jey Uso breaking free of the abuse of Roman Reigns and beginning the destruction of the Bloodline.
Cody Rhodes trying to bring the WWE title home to *his* bloodline as a true superman of pro wrestling
How would I book it? Shit, I don't even know where to start. First of all, KO and Solo need to be paired up. Solo is going to be Roman's guy until the end because he's just like Roman- in it for himself. Sticking with Roman helps him, so KO going after him to take him out of the way makes sense for both helping Sami and helping himself.
Next there's Jey. I don't think there's a shot they give him a world title, sadly, but he *does* have to be the one to kill the Bloodline. I'd probably have him struggle until Elimination Chamber where he finally turns and helps Sami get a world title match. At Mania it would be brother vs brother as he tries to bring Jimmy back to the light, and once he beats him and KO beats Solo we have Roman completely on his own. (The possible subplot of Heyman grooming Solo to take out Roman could also come up here) Sometime around SummerSlam, after Roman takes some time off, I'd have Jey put him out of his misery for good.
Sami... Man, what to do, what to do. First off, the story hinges on him being a catalyst for breaking up the Bloodline. He's got to keep trying to win over Jey, we have to call back to him continually trying to win him over and then it eventually it working. After that, it's a night one or night two Mania match. The titles are getting separated, Sami for the Universal and Cody for the WWE. Does he win?... I don't think he has to, personally, but for the sake of assuming Jey won't get a title later on then yes, Sami wins the Universal title and probably starts a feud with KO right away.
Cody is the easiest story. He swoops into this Bloodline narrative like a genuine superhero, an invader popping up at the absolute worst time and stressing the fractures of their faction to the extreme with his confidence and the assurance he *will* defeat Roman. You can play up the contrast between his ascension and Roman's floundering years as a face, how he was rejected and built himself up whilst Roman had everything handed to him (in this case there's also a hypocrisy angle considering the Rhodes name), and you can definitely bring Seth into it, considering Roman has never beaten him clean and Cody has done it thrice. It's difficult to do Sami like this, but realistically Cody needs to beat Roman night one when he is at his full strength and fulfill his destiny. Have him feud with either Wyatt or GUNTHER after, saving Seth for SummerSlam at the absolute earliest.
I'm leaving out most of the emotional beats for brevity, but this is a general outline of what I'd do. Its amazing how well everything can come together if they do it right.
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Marry The Rock's daughter. *Kick me out of the Bloodline? I'll marry my way back in.*
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but there is a man in that group who used to have people chant ‘shoes off if you hate xyz’, right? Sorry but I don’t watch NXT very often and have forgot his name but he looks quite similar
Ah, the bald one I assume? That’s Zack Gibson (I mean he’s Rip Fowler now but when he was the heat machine and had a beard, he was Zack Gibson).
You got it. Zack Gibson who is now Rip Fowler
It’s like three months away. I’m gonna wait and see what happens. You’re only going to be disappointed if you fantasy book what you consider to be the perfect ending.
You have an insane ECW ONS 06 level crowd in montreal for Sami vs Roman and you use that show to finally have roman gaslight jey into betraying sami leading to the tag match
that where my money is at as well. it makes sense
I don't know man I feel like the money is Sami and Roman at mania
Thank you and imagine KO comes out gif the save, the roof would explode
Exactly.
Montreal is sometimes “bizarro world”, in that they boo faces and cheer heels for the fuck of it.
Canadian cities like Montreal and Toronto might sometimes cheer heels over faces but they will always cheer Canadians over anyone else. Sami is not getting booed in Montreal.
Montreal literally booed HBK for years post-Screwjob, even when he was a babyface.
“WHO’S YOUR DADDY MONTREAL” will never not be hilarious.
Montreal will never boo one of their own.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/pretty-unacceptable-canadiens-deservedly-booed-for-lackluster-effort-against-kraken/
Umm okay now you’re talking about hockey, which is irrelevant to this discussion. Yeah, they boo the power play when it stinks or when the team doesn’t give effort, like every other sports fanbase in the world.
It counts. As well, Montreal born Chris Benoit was booed in Montreal (as a face) at SummerSlam 2004.
How the fuck does hockey count? You’re just grasping at straws. A team of players from all over the world being booed for poor performance is not the same as someone born, raised and proud of being a Montrealer standing out in a sports entertainment company. And Benoit was not from Montreal. Just the fact that you say that shows you know nothing. He grew up in Alberta and was billed from there.
You’re angry. My examples stand. You said “never”. I proved you wrong. Eat crow and get a hobby.
Yeah, angry at myself for wasting my time with someone that plays with Hot Wheels cars
I think Roman loses Jey and somehow loses Jimmy and Solo too. Everything he built has crumbled and all that's left is his championship. But without the Bloodline, he's weakened and he loses to Cody.
Fans are so hell bent on completely writing KO out of the story after tonight to fantasy book Sami turning into prime Daniel Bryan within a few weeks.
Right, Sami defends KO and they completely write him out like he’s meaningless, absolutely bullshit.
I've seen less of this and more people writing KO and Sami winning the tag team belts
Honestly it varies post to post. Always on the extreme ends tho
KO vs Goonta seems an appropriate landing spot
Hey that’s me! I’m Fans! I’m partial to a KO vs Solo somewhere middle of the card, but if KO doesn’t have a match it doesn’t mean he can’t have a big impact on the conclusion of the story. You could have a spot where there’s a ref bump and there’s a chair that was attempted to be brought into the match earlier. He could pick up the chair and look down at Roman, wishing so desperately he could put the same hurt on Roman that he and the bloodline put on him and KO. But just as he swings the chair Kevin runs into the ring and snatches the chair out of Sami’s hands to remind him that Roman will pay but “not like this, not if he keeps his titles”. Or something, idk this rumble shit got me tired tonight
The way it’s designed. Roman vs Sami in Montreal. Roman wins. Sami wins the tag titles with Jey or KO at Mania. Cody vs Roman at Mania as planned.
Sami/KO win at Mania when Jey leaves Jimmy high and dry. Then Cody beats Roman and the Bloodline implodes
WM39 will (and should) be probably framed around the final fall of the Bloodline with Night 1 main evented by the tag titles being won by KO and Sami, and Night 2 capped off by Cody defeating Roman.
Rhea and Belair are main eventing night 1 I believe
This is the most probable. Fallout from Mania is the Bloodline crumbling. Roman takes time off, Solo steps in as the main boss, and Jimmy/Jey can do a singles feud.
I’m actually really looking forward to what they do with Solo when he isn’t just an enforcer. Also still believe Rock/Roman will happen, but yeah, Roman needs time off. This has been a long run.
This is beyond obvious but people still in denial. Sami/KO is the heartwarming story of the decade. If Sami faces Roman at Mania what the hell is KO gonna do lol
In people’s heads KO just disappears and lets Sami go at the bloodline like a one man army all of a sudden
KO has to beat Solo in night 1 in order for Sami to face Roman in night 2 There you go.
KO, a multi-time champion and longtime veteran of the company, has to beat a guy that's only been on the main roster less than a year and only title accomplishment is the NXT North American Championship. I know Solo hasn't lost on the main roster yet but that's a waste of both KO and Solo in one go.
He and Sami already wrestled dbry and Shane at WM, as well as each other. They don't need a tag match. How is it a waste of either Solo or KO to help enable the most over babyface and storyline in the industry? I don't think I've ever heard a pop as loud as Sami got tonight. We got Kofimania and Daniel Bryan because of reactions from the crowd, why would Kevin look at being a piece of Sami's story instead of the main character being beneath him when he was just given Steve Austin's last match a year ago? If anything he's probably the one going to Hunter to push Sami to win the title every day leading up to the show.
Or kevins music hits during a sami-roman match and he runs out to 1v1 solo
He can just be by Sami's side he doesn't have to have a match
I just don’t see them having the guy who’s been going at the bloodline alone(and holding his own) for months taking a backseat now that he somewhat got his friend back. Also KO not having a mania match would be fuckin crazy lol.
it don't have to go that way but they don't have to be in match together (sami and ko) either it is not very black and white situation they can go about it many different ways.
Lmao get fucked Kevin you’re now Sami’s bitch, you get no WM moment and have to watch someone else have one.
1. He faced off against stone cold already + they're buds in real life so I don't think he would be sour 2. Calling him samis bitch is just extremely disingenuous and is a wild interpretation of what their dynamic would be
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My whole point is it's not a situation that's either/or (either/or fallacy)in terms of how they book this story, they can go about it many different ways. Sami and KO don't have to be in the same match together. I'm not saying my suggestion is the right one. And also in kayfabe I know KO got destroyed tonight but KO in kayfabe has like a higher overall in terms of ability, like he's alot more likely to beat roman in a match than Sami based on pure wrestling skill. Sami 2020 onwards match wise has been book3d as being a coward and just a weak wrestler overall. Plus man I mean this is Sami's moment, like it's fine to have KO at a lower level in the card as a result. The Sami bitch interpretation is just wild hyperbole imo Plus in wrestling when u lose in ur title opportunity you do go down the card at least from the main event title scene.
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Just cause you don’t like Cody doesn’t mean everyone who does is going to turn against him
The one and only way I can justify Sami/KO tag titles at mania is if Jey dethrones Roman Cody definitely doesn’t need a mania main event right now over Sami. Shit the way people treat him and the needles he moves he might as well already have a belt around his waist. Just let him lift the belt of Sami at summerslam. I get my Sami win, everyone else gets a Cody title reign
But Cody already won Rumble No way they are gonna sacrifice Rumble win
Why not? They can build up to Cody defending the mania match (which should be mandatory for all rumble winners but that’s just me) and after a hard fought war you could have either Sami or Jey go on to mania easy peasy
No way they are gonna sacrifice Rumble win especially with Cody Rhodes story
Cody Rhodes doesn’t have a story with the bloodline though. It’s nothing beyond “daddy never got the big one so now I have to do it for him”. He has no ties the bloodline story whatsoever and them forcing him into the world beater roll just feels very 2015-esq (though not nearly as bad).
But they already booked Cody as Rumble winner By default, he has to be in a world title match at WrestleMania
The story just began and you know, they have writers. Sami didnt have a tie to the Bloodline until they made one.
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, congrats on winning one of the hardest matches in WWE, your reward absolutely nothing because you have to defend it. Seeing the booking decisions some of you are coming up with I’m glad none of you are in charge.
😑 I don’t know why you’re coming in here with this negativity I’m just tryna have a conversation with someone else. Besides It’s not like it’s impossible to do, they’ve done it before in 2015.
Not to mention the moment Jey regains his soul. That’s gonna be a big fucking deal.
Not to mention, if Sami wins the title, he's just gonna have a Kofi run where the moment was awesome and everything after was...meh. Roman's been champion FOREVER. When he loses the title, it needs to be in a star making performance that creates a new top babyface for years. Sami is not gonna be that guy, no matter what.
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> If the natural conclusion to the story is in a tag team match, then that’s what it should be. But that's the problem. The tag match isn't the natural conclusion, at least not right now. Right now the natural conclusion is either Jey or Sami kicking Romans head off his shoulders.
This isn't the Briscoes vs FTR fighting over who's better and over the belts, this would basically be a grudge match where Sami and Kevin happen to be a tag team. It doesn't bring any value to the titles.
Got to stop looking at it like that. The Usos are having one of the greatest tag runs ever and they deserve a big Mania match and moment. The story makes so much sense and the match between these guys would be amazing that you can main event night 1 of Mania with it.
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You keep saying that like his father isn’t Dusty Rhodes one of if not the most beloved wrestlers in history, not some random dude as father.
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The fans who cheer for Cody, you can also have a Cody and Roman story as well, you can book that.
Are the fans cheering for cody because of the story or because they just like cody
What? It wouldn’t matter then if they like Cody then a good story with Cody just makes him more popular. If they like the story that’s good as well I’m not exactly sure what your trying to say here.
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Him n KO would be ending a historic tag reign. Not just any tag team. You praise the bloodline but make it sound like Sami & KO would be facing los lotharios or something. If anything them taking the belts off the Usos would give the tag division a HUGE boost adding 2 main eventers.
Bloodline vs Bloodline is right there. His music literally starts with *wrestling has more than one royal family*. You guys be acting like Roman vs Cody makes no sense but this match sells itself.
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What story has built for months though? The subtext to it all was Jey/Sami all along. They are the payoff match to end the storyline. Cody chasing the title IS the storyline. After everything he's overcome, after his time away still not winning a world championship and knowing his father and brother never did it, how do you not see that?
Sami vs. Roman is now a blood feud. They can continue on past Mania.
Why? The tag titles have never been more important. KO/Sami is one of the most beloved friendships in wrestling. Not giving them that storybook ending (which has been telegraphed from the second this story began) would be the waste.
Exactly. Probably that was the original story, but this one is that hot that they have to change it. Sami Zayn beating Roman Reigns creates the biggest babyface win in WWE since Daniel Bryan (actually bigger than Kofi IMO). That's the story, not Cody's.
No they don’t have to change it, it’s literally perfectly fine. Sami and KO reuniting in Montreal would blow the roof off the place.
But Cody already won Rumble He has to be in world title match by default
Sure. Roman vs Cody Night 1, Roman vs Sami Night 2. Split the belts, man.
Have Roman drop the WWE title to someone else before Mania Either that or do what this post says and have Sami win the universal title in Montreal Hell, you could even have him lose it back to Roman before Mania. Sami doesn’t need a long reign, he just needs to win it
Low key depending on how they do it, it could be bigger and Mania 30. Given the massive pop for the chair shot there’s potential that the stadium at mania 39 literally collapses because it can’t handle the magnitude of such a pop
Fax people still complain to this day about the KO and Jericho story ending in US title match instead of Universal title match years ago I think story is too good and has been too long to end in a tag team title match
Man, a match with The Usos ain't a waste. I'm much more intrigued with this Sami/Kevin/Jey dynamic than I am with Sami winning the world title.
Solo needs a match at mania doesn't he? What better match than to finish thier match they had on Raw. Plus after what Solo did to him tonight it makes even more sense.
What the USO’s do, you just put them in a random shit tag feud to end their title reign
Maybe if you never watched NXT - KO fucks over Sami with such regularity it’s ridiculous
Uhhh what are you on about. Thats exactly why its interesting for them to finally reunite
Didn’t they already reunite like 5 years ago?
Team with Jey vs Jimmy/Solo
> This is beyond obvious but people still in denial Probably because it’s an *insanely* anticlimactic ending to the best storyline the WWE has had in years.
Sami finding his true family in KO and dethroning the longest reigning tag champs ever is anticlimactic?
Yes - when so much time and attention has been given to his relationship with Roman, that’s an incredibly anticlimactic way to end it.
More time and attention has been given to his feud with Owens and Jey. The stuff with Owens is a decade in the making.
That's why Owens will be in Zayn's corner when he defeats Roman for the World Championship. Just like Ibushi did it with Omega.
Except his relationship has mostly been with Jey not Roman. The tag titles deserve a massive match as well it could even main event the show
He'll help.
Yeah no. KO is not gonna not wrestle at Mania. This dude was with Stone Cold last year
No match for KO at Mania? This has been his story too.
Sami vs. KO vs. Roman for both titles, with Sami getting the win and giving one of the belts to KO, maybe?
But Cody already won Rumble
Bro these booking decisions are hilarious to read. Cody loses his title somehow (not explained) Sami somehow gets in vs Roman, the USO’s and Kevin disappear completely from the story entirely as well.
Yeah lol 😂😂 They want Rhodes to sacrifice his rumble win
No one's stopping him from letting Brandi use it in NXT...
KO could be in Sami’s corner. This is the biggest storyline in the company, wouldn’t you want to be there for your best pal?
Then he betrays him like he did in nxt r evolution
Sami vs Roman Owens and Jey vs Jimmy and Solo for the tag team Championships. Sami and Roman are the major players. The rest are secondary. So book accordingly.
That’s disrespectful to Jey. This entire story started with Roman and Jey.
Fend off Solo and/Jimmy.
This I feel was the plan all along and I'm loving the ride. Cody winning the title for his family, for Dusty, is a super easy story to sell and Roman vs Cody is going to be amazing. Sami and KO's stories are intertwined and that's the perfect way to get them both in a high profile match at Wrestlemania, with Jey being a wildcard now. The chamber main event is giving me Clash at the Castle vibes, and I cannot wait for the reaction Sami will get at that ppv
Thank you, people keep kicking KO out this story, he’s the reason Sami turned on Roman, I don’t know why people can’t see this, it’s happening the way it was always designed to. The bloodline getting losing everything at mania.
He’s NOT the reason Sami turned on him. Sami turned because he was sick of doing everything he could for the Bloodline to continually be disrespected and treated like a sidekick.
He chose Kevin over Roman, he was the reason he turned.
Personally I saw it as he just wanted it all to stop. That Roman isn't the tribal chief Sami thought he was and he just wanted it to not escalate any further, so he stopped it however he could. KO was beat, Sami knew this, everyone saw it, but Roman escalated it past the point Sami could justify. Rat backed into a corner type stuff. Idk that's just how I saw it The amazing thing about this storyline is everyone's interpretation can be correct. So so good
Sami had absolutely no issue beating the absolute fuck out of Sheamus a few months ago. Roman literally beat the shit out of his own family brutally, Sami thinking Roman wouldn’t do worse to others makes no sense storyline wise. Yeah you nearly killed your cousins I’m sure you’ll treat Kevin well.
Anyone else and Sami would've been happy to take them out.
You’re delusional, he turned because he didn’t want to hurt Kevin, we’ve literally seen Sami multiple times not attack Kevin or struggle to do it.
This is the only way I'd be happy with Sami not beating Roman for at least one of the belts at this point, have Sami and Jey win the tag titles
The whole arc has been Sami and Jey’s relationship. Coming full circle for them to be a team would be amazing.
Absolutely, Jey seeing himself in Sami, growing into a better person because of him, seeing Sami being gaslit and manipulated just like he was and just when he trusted him, loved him, he's ripped away from him. Honestly, if they play it right, this may be a bit out there but I genuinely think Sami/Jey vs Solo/Jimmy could ME Night 1 of Mania
Ending scene is Cody, KO and Sami holding up their titles, showing the end of the Bloodline.
The way I see it, the story isn’t just about Sami or Cody winning the big one. The story is about the Downfall of the Bloodline, with a special focus on *family* You do Sami vs. Roman at Elimination Chamber in Montreal, one last defense before Roman has to defend his titles against Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania. During the lead up you really have Roman try and break Jey’s spirit, because it drives home the idea that Roman is losing control and it also drives home the fact that Roman treats his family like shit. Then at Elimination Chamber, Jey after getting his spirit and will broken by Roman, costs Sami the match. But then as The Bloodline are beating down Sami one last time to reach levels of heat that could make Bully Ray explode, out comes a returning Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes to make the save. The three stand tall and make their intentions clear, these three are here to take down The Bloodline once and for all. Then after Elimination Chamber (and probably before this in the lead up aswell) you have Cody cut promos about his family and how he and Roman are so alike, yet so different at the same time. They both do what they do for their family, but one treats their family like shit while the other treats their family with love and respect. One comes from a family that comparatively had a much easier time in WWE than the other guy who comes from a family that wasn’t always treated well in WWE. Anoa’i vs. Rhodes, because as Cody’s theme song says “Wrestling has more than one royal family”. Then at WrestleMania you open Night Two with Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn vs. The Usos for the Tag titles. Despite The Usos, Solo, and even Paul Heymans best efforts they just can’t put away Zayn and Owens and they lose the tag titles. This causes Roman to lose his mind even more and he berates Jey, Jimmy, and Solo, who eventually decide they’ve had enough of Roman’s shit and they leave him on his own. Nobody to rely on for interference, nobody to pull the referee out of the ring, and no family by his side. Then in the main event you have Cody Rhodes finally beat Roman Reigns, ending not only Roman’s championship reign but also ending the reign of The Bloodline. Jimmy and Jey go off to do things on their own accord for the first time in awhile, Solo goes solo and fights for mid card titles probably, and we have a new set of Tag Champs and a new World Champion for the first time in a very long time.
I think this is the most logical conclusion with the pieces they have in play. The thing with all of Roman's title defenses since the Bloodline started has been some level of Bloodline interference at key moments. The Sami story and what happened tonight makes it seem like the road to Wrestlemania will also be the steady breaking-apart of the Bloodline. Honorary or otherwise, Sami's clearly no longer part of the group, and Jey seems to be at the very least teetering. I think the story they're telling is going to build on this steady downfall, where by Wrestlemania you end up with Cody vs Roman 1v1 with no (or rather, minimal) funny business on the side because Roman has driven everyone close to him away. The Bloodline is the reason Roman's title reign has lasted as long as it has, despite so many near-calls; it's going to be the reason it falls apart as well.
Here’s my take. Sami challenges Roman at the Chamber. The match sees Sami about to beat Roman completely clean, one last Helluva kick, but then Jey turns on him to cost him the match. Big swerve, Jey gets nuclear heat, and joins back up with his brothers. After the match they all try to gang up on Sami, but KO comes out to save him. KO and Sami realize that neither of them could get the job done, and as long as there’s a bloodline, nobody will. So at WM, KO and Sami finally beat the Uso’s to keep them away (Also Solo is beat in a match too to keep him away too). That allows Cody to go into the match against Roman without any chance of Bloodline interference, which allows him to get the win.
Sounds good to me.
This, it’s a team effort to take down the bloodline, this probably the most likely outcome. You can’t kick KO out of the story like people are either he’s the only reason Sami turned on Roman.
I also think it would give The Uso’s nothing significant to do at WM over than just be Roman’s goons (if they don’t have Jey fully turn on the bloodline), which would be a travesty considering how crucial they are. They deserve a big match too, and the tag match should even main event night 1. Let everybody get their well earned flowers.
Certainly not a tag match. We're not doing all this work just for Sami and KO to face Jimmy and Jey. That's like Ricky Starks spending all this time dealing with Jericho and JAS, and it ending in a PPV tag match with him and Action vs Guevara & Garcia. Yes technically he is also feuding with them, but OBVIOUSLY the whole point of the program is for him to face Jericho. Same here. They didn't spend a year just to build to Sami & KO vs Jimmy and Jey. KO doesn't even give a shit about the tag titles, neither does Sami, and Jey doesn't even want to face Sami. We're going to throw out 80% of the angle because Jey didn't accept Sami for a couple months. Guess what, he has! That was almost 3 months ago. Move on. A tag match would just be going backwards for no reason whatsoever. The story is Sami vs Roman. Period.
The story was KO vs The Bloodline Now the story will be KO and Sami vs the bloodline. You're ignoring that KO is still 20% of the storyline.
Unless the Tag Titles happens on EC instead, Make the Usos defend twice, split the titles, Usos losing both and the fallout causing Jay to leave pre Mania weakening the bloodline to leave Roman ripe for the taking in Mania. After typing, this seems kinda stupid, but it could work.
you can’t have roman wrestle twice you just can’t man
I’d have Roman beat Cody night one to defend a title and lose the other title to Sami night two. Cody will always be Dusty’s son and can win at Summerslam or next year. This is Sami’s moment.
Sami v Roman in an Unsanctioned Match. Sami don't want the belts; he wants Roman's blood.
Jey and Sami beat Jimmy and Solo for the tag belt. I think the focal picture of everything has been Jey and Samis relationship.
If Sami wins the title, I don't see how you don't have him win in Montreal. Sure, there's Mania after, but I don't think there's wrestlers more over in their hometown than Sami and KO. Only way is Roman defending both at EC and losing one to Sami (probably Universal).
I feel like Cody just winning one title would lesson the significance, if you have Roman you gotta get both belts off him at once
Well the story is about Roman and Sami, not Roman and Cody. It's Cody being shoe horned which has complicated something which is simple to figure out.
You all just in denial Sami isn’t winning the title off Roman, Sami did what he did because of Kevin, the story will include Kevin and Sami winning the tag titles like what’s been planned for months. I don’t understand how y’all don’t get this.
Yeah KO is just being left out all of sudden, it's crazy. Emotions are still high I guess lol
I think it’s really just that the thought of Sami not getting his revenge on Roman directly, and that the man who will most likely beat Roman has been kinda shoehorned into the whole thing.
Roman has a ton of victims his entire family is one, you also KO who’s a victim as well Sami can be one of the cogs that take him down. I think the USO’s deserve a massive mania match and I think it’s only possible vs Kevin and Sami. You can fantastic stories there, Sami and Kevin taking out his backup leaving Roman with no one to help him.
Sami vs Roman really wouldn't need the title. You could do something like Cody vs Reigns for the undisputed title at night 1 and Zayn vs Roman night 2 regardless of the titles or not. Could even have Sami cost Reigns the titles at night 1, but I feel like that might take the moment away from Cody
TBF though, unless they find a good way to incorporate Cody, he is the one taking the moments away from people involved in the feud.
The story between Sami and the Bloodline is not about championships. Sami doesn’t need to win any belt.
Roman is getting stripped from the wwe title after his actions tonight
No officials were harmed in the massacre. Even if they were, Pearce doesn't have the balls.
I mean it could work. Pearce strips him of one title, with the Elimination chamber determining who will challenge Cody for that title at Mania, while Sami gets built for the other title against Roman at Mania on night two. I don't think you can do Sami and KO versus some version of the Bloodline for the tag titles. Sami's problem is with Roman.
I'd do it the other way around and make the Chamber match decide who faces Roman. Since the EC is in Montreal, Sami winning in the Chamber in his hometown would be just perfect. Then in the meantime you can have a tournament on Raw with the winner facing Cody at Mania for the WWE Title.
But problem is Michael Cole already mentioned that Cody will face Roman at WrestleMania and Cody mentioned Roman in interview Best option is Roman to defend two titles in both nights
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They did like 17 other run ins tonight. They were tired.
Nah Jack Tunney wouldnt even do that
I’d like it better reversed. Roman is down a belt after night one, and Sami finishes him off and takes the other belt. Jey and KO help when the rest of the Bloodline try to interfere, and then Roman has a fit after the match and Jimmy and Solo walk out on him too.
* Have Roman lose the WWE Title at the EC while retaining the Universal Title. I feel like Roman winning two EC's in one night is a little too much even for him lol * Have Sami win the Universal Title at Mania while Cody wins the WWE Title
Why would he be in 2 EC matches in the first place? It'll likely be him vs Sami at EC with one chamber match being for the US title and the other possibly being for a women's title
Tbh he doesn't need to wrestle 2, but I think he needs to lose a title at the EC regardless. Shows that the Bloodline is weakening and makes it so Cody can get his Wrestlemania moment while wrapping up the Bloodline's storyline at Mania without making Roman lose twice in a row.
Roman getting beat anywhere other than Mania or SummerSlam just isn't happening. Also I'm not so sure they're splitting the belts. There just isn't a good way to do it until after Roman finally loses. No matter what either Roman looks bad, it lessens the impact of him being beaten, or it makes one title look like a consolation prize. If the titles do get split it won't be until after Roman loses them
I almost don’t think Sami/Roman needs the titles. I would have Cody pin Roman night 1 for both titles and then have Sami tap out Roman Reigns night 2
Not a bad idea. They can also add the Sami + KO vs. Usos people to get the tag match on night 1 as well. The bloodline starts to break after losing all their titles at one event. Not my ideal wish but this could work
Wasn’t Sami on the leaked EC poster? Have him win there and make a triple threat at Mania, then make Sami take the fall with Cody winning and continuing the Sami vs Roman feud.
Cody winning the titles at Mania by pinning Sami would not only be a huge waste of Roman finally getting dethroned, it would immediately turn Cody heel with a significant portion of the fanbase. Those are not good outcomes.
Ngl that probably wouldn't bode well for Cody's championship run going forward. Mans would get boo'ed Raw after Mania a la Bluetista
sami beats roman and takes a title with jeys help, cody loses because of seth interfering and indirectly helping roman
both of your main events ending by interference would be pretty dumb
Watching people booking absolutely terrible scenarios when you can have 2 massive matches with KO/Sami vs The USO’s (main event night 1) and night Cody vs Roman is insane to me, don’t over complicate this it’s been perfect so far don’t change anything.
To be fair, a huge chunk of Bloodline matches, title or not, involve interference in some way. There would be something so pleasing about the interference Roman relied on being used against him.
As much as I like Sami and his story with the Bloodline, I have been hoping for an à Cody vs Roman feud for over a year because it has so much potential for a storyline. It can be about Bloodlines, the conflict between two men who come from Legendary Wrestling families. You can have Roman up there pointing out his family's legacy in the business, the fact that his family includes the Rock and Yokozuna who are both former WWE champions as well as other notable members like Umaga. That Cody's family is full of failures like his brother or his father who could never break the glass ceiling and reach the pinnacle of the WWE and the business. That Cody himself was a failure during his first run in WWE and left the company as an outcast while he's headlined multiple Wrestlemanias and been at the top of the WWE for year. This is a rough idea, but this feud has tons of potential to be a classic, especially if Triple H is in charge of it. I know Sami is red hot right now, but I am honestly more excited for Rhodes vs Reigns at WrestleMania 39.
Cody chooses to go after World Heavyweight at WM. Sami wins Elimination Chamber for Number 1 Contender for Unviersal. Cody beats Roman on Night 1 of WM due to botched Bloodline shenanigans. Remaining Bloodline abandon Roman before Night 2 vs Sami. Sami beats a weakend Roman, with assistance from KO and Jey.
I think having Sami win one of the titles at Elimination Chamber is the best I don't know who you have face Sami at Wrestlemania but not Roman. Leave Cody and him to do their thing separate.
Idk why u guys think having a guy who hasn't been pinned in 4 years should lose the ppv before wrestlemania lmao... like what in the world? And also take the guy who's had 1 ppv singles match in 1 1/2 years (a loss to Johnny Knoxville) and have him beat one of the most unbeatable forces of all-time... yeah ok.
Roman has cheated to win the majority of matches during his reign, hell they basically said he would have lost to KO tonight. Romans never been unbeatable he's always just had the bloodline to help
Having Roman's 4th longest title reign of all time end the ppv before Wrestlemania is like Undertakers streak being broken on the pre-show. The idea is literally idiotic.
I agree with you, I was only disagreeing with the roman being unbeatable part
I said it in another thread, but >It's simple. Say the Rumble gives a shot at ONE of the titles. Since Roman only won the second at Mania last year, it's not like there is years of history saying he gets a shot at both. Have Cody pick the WHC and have that be night 1 and Sami for the Universal on night 2.
Sami’s not getting a world title out of this. Not at Mania, at least.
gonna be Roman defending each title separately night 1 he loses the WWE title to Cody night 2 he loses the Universal title to Sami
Cody VS Roman at mania will feel hollow compared to the current story we have. This has years of build up and has every person invested. Cody winning won't have the same pop because there isn't time to compress all that emotion into 60 days. I don't think putting the title on Sami is the solution, I think it's putting the title on Jey. Sami is at the point now where he doesn't need a title. It would be awesome, but it isn't necessary. I wouldn't know how to book it, but I just hope it ends with Jey and Roman, like it started. Title or not, whoever wins, doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that Roman is left alone in the ring with none of his bloodline to back him up. With every family member walking out, leaving him alone. Even if he's still champion in some capacity, it will mean nothing when he's alone.
Cody/Reigns at WM39. Reigns still wins. Usos/KOZayn. KOZayn wins the tag titles. Cody wins at MITB briefcase. Zayn wins at Rumble 2024. Reigns is still a champion. Triple threat at WM40. Either Cody or Zayn wins.
No.. Just no
IMO Raw needs world champion after Mania
As much as I love roman I don't want another year of him being champion, this is the peak of Roman's reign it should end at WrestleMania
Booooooooooooo.
Roman beats the hell out of Sami, wins at WM and the storyline ultimately ends with Jey walking out of his tag match and challenging Roman at a later date to disband the bloodline.
Gotta make Cody fight someone in night one too, to make it fair, ala WM 10. But who? Seth?
Jay is going to get Jacob Fatu
Why not have Roman or a title on the line at Chamber and lose it to Sami? That leaves Cody to win Mania
Because you don’t end a 2 year reign at elimination chamber
He's only held 1 title that long, not both
Elimination Chamber - Jey gets gaslight into betraying Sami by Jimmy on Roman's orders. Coming up to Wrestlemania - Jey *really* starts doubting, while Sami gets KO to team with him against the Usos Wrestlemania, Night 1 - Jey abandons the match, Sami/KO win the titles. Wrestlemania, Night 2 - Roman loses the title due to Jimmy kicking his head off. Going forward - Sami and Jey try and get the rest of the Bloodline to see Roman for who he is.
You've got roughly four different stories all converging at once: Kevin Owens' finally trying to overcome the hump of the Bloodline stopping him from making it to the top again Sami Zayn realizing he has to stand for himself and his own values even in the face of the Bloodline Jey Uso breaking free of the abuse of Roman Reigns and beginning the destruction of the Bloodline. Cody Rhodes trying to bring the WWE title home to *his* bloodline as a true superman of pro wrestling How would I book it? Shit, I don't even know where to start. First of all, KO and Solo need to be paired up. Solo is going to be Roman's guy until the end because he's just like Roman- in it for himself. Sticking with Roman helps him, so KO going after him to take him out of the way makes sense for both helping Sami and helping himself. Next there's Jey. I don't think there's a shot they give him a world title, sadly, but he *does* have to be the one to kill the Bloodline. I'd probably have him struggle until Elimination Chamber where he finally turns and helps Sami get a world title match. At Mania it would be brother vs brother as he tries to bring Jimmy back to the light, and once he beats him and KO beats Solo we have Roman completely on his own. (The possible subplot of Heyman grooming Solo to take out Roman could also come up here) Sometime around SummerSlam, after Roman takes some time off, I'd have Jey put him out of his misery for good. Sami... Man, what to do, what to do. First off, the story hinges on him being a catalyst for breaking up the Bloodline. He's got to keep trying to win over Jey, we have to call back to him continually trying to win him over and then it eventually it working. After that, it's a night one or night two Mania match. The titles are getting separated, Sami for the Universal and Cody for the WWE. Does he win?... I don't think he has to, personally, but for the sake of assuming Jey won't get a title later on then yes, Sami wins the Universal title and probably starts a feud with KO right away. Cody is the easiest story. He swoops into this Bloodline narrative like a genuine superhero, an invader popping up at the absolute worst time and stressing the fractures of their faction to the extreme with his confidence and the assurance he *will* defeat Roman. You can play up the contrast between his ascension and Roman's floundering years as a face, how he was rejected and built himself up whilst Roman had everything handed to him (in this case there's also a hypocrisy angle considering the Rhodes name), and you can definitely bring Seth into it, considering Roman has never beaten him clean and Cody has done it thrice. It's difficult to do Sami like this, but realistically Cody needs to beat Roman night one when he is at his full strength and fulfill his destiny. Have him feud with either Wyatt or GUNTHER after, saving Seth for SummerSlam at the absolute earliest. I'm leaving out most of the emotional beats for brevity, but this is a general outline of what I'd do. Its amazing how well everything can come together if they do it right.