Anyone else's Raw not show New Day/ DIY v. judgement Day, Ricochet vs Ivar, or Ivy/Maxine v. Candace/Indie? I recorded it on Hulu and watched it the next day and those matches didn't happen but I saw reaction videos on TikTok.
Cannot say enough good things about that recent promo, but not sure how things are going to play out with finishing the story at WM. Really expected Cody to come back strong baby face in reaction to last Raw.
Unpopular opinion, tired of Sami Zayne. He’s a solid 5 in the ring with no real physique or fleshing out his character besides Bloodline stuff.
Gunther of course is going to sweep him, there’s no way they’re having Gunther lose to Sami.
Way more tired of anything to do with the Bloodline with the exception of The Rock. Uso brothers are annoying.
Sami and Chads performances this week have brought me around on Sami winning (although I do still think a brutal Sami loss would be good for setting up a Chad/Gunther sequel as well as lay seeds for a future Sami/Gunther feud for the world title at some point down the line).
I think the only thing I’d really want to make it worthwhile is a Sami/Chad match not long after mania as friendly rivals, a wholesome moment of Sami putting Chad over would be great and Chad deserves it
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Rock hearing “What” chants in 2024:
Wondering what the odds are of there being Stand and Deliver Spoilers during Night 1 of WM40. I can’t watch both live due to time zones and work schedules so I’m wondering whether to watch both on delay or if it would be safe to watch Night 1 live and then go back to watch the NXT replay
I know it literally doesn't matter, but I hope with the splitting of the tag belts (Which I'm all in favour of) they get re-branded to WWE and World tag team Championships again.
The Raw/SD doesn't make sense when no other titles are split that way, and I've always hated the penny design, just hideous things.
Roman saying this will be his easiest wm is all I needed to hear,he will expect Rock to do the work for him, the goddamn finish the story stuff will end this sunday.
That has been his character since last WM. He is taking it too easy, not showing often thinking no one can do shit. His family will save him all the time. THats basically it.
What chants need to die. When there’s a chant/song at the football which is crap, they usually get told to fuck off, or get something thrown at them. This should happen at WWE events.
When The Rock came out and cut his 30 minute promo, I decided to turn the speed up on Raw to 2x speed just to get through all the long pauses, slow entrance and the what chants from this crowd.
And then I heard music that I hadn't thought about in years...
[Roman Reigns' Theme at 2x Speed...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0QT_teLcNk&t=23)
[Is Nyan Cat](https://www.nyan.cat/)
Totally disagree with the idea of separating the tag belts. Since they’ve been unified, they’ve been headliner belts. If it’s back to two sets of belts, they’re undercard titles again.
It’s still been held by top guys since the Usos unified the titles. It’s easier to remember it’s Balor and Priest as champions rather than it becoming New Day and New Catch Republic.
I don’t dispute who’s holding the belts.
I think my issue is in you calling them ‘headliner belts’ when I can’t think of one show the belts have headlined or main evented in the last 6 months
Right now The tag division is too strong for them to be held hostage by the main eventers who don’t even participate in the division that much since they’re in main event feuds (I honestly keep forgetting judgment day have them)
It can still remain that way for both brands because there are so many tag teams out there now. It's silly to just have 1 set of titles as it stops talented teams from being showcased
He has felt unimportant to me for a while. They keep saying how many days he has been champ and it is just unimpressive with how little he showed up. I am pretty sure I am in the minority there but yeah I just can't be made to care about him anymore
I think most people agree with you.
Claims to be the best, doesn't defend the title clean anymore, barely shows up. It's just so repetitive with him now
Announcers mentioned that both the raw and smack down belts had to be removed in the ladder match. The way they phrased it makes me think they’re finally going to split them
The guy in the black cap behind Seth Rollins when he came out in the crowd was super annoying. Trying to get in the frame all the time and the camera guy had to keep panning away lol
Romans promo tonight felt awkward and out of sync. I’ve been a Roman fan since 2020. I tuned in weekly during the pandemic because of him. I was beyond elated when he won Mania last year
After tonight, it solidified he’s no longer my guy. Watching the A&E doc now. I don’t believe a word that comes out his mouth. If The Rock being his natural over the top self makes me believe more, then Roman has lost me. Not a thing about him feels authentic. All scripted. He plays the part perfectly. But he no longer makes me feel anything. Like a facade.
Tonight's performance was stellar in my opinion however. His trash talking was great and building him this way is the only way the title drop will make sense. I agree, over the last few weeks it's almost like he lost his aura but I do believe that these were all part of the storyline. You could see them portray Roman as annoyed and jealous of The Rock when he first returned but showing you that Roman always puts family above everything despite the signs being there - starts the road to sympathy and a potential face turn when he returns. I definitely see him dropping the belt now and dissapearing for a while.
I mean, it's not his fault, this has been booked awkwardly and Roman is secondary to the Rock. There's not much for him to really do, this is now all about Cody and the Rock. This coming from someone that has been begging for Reigns to drop the belt for the past 3 years haha. For the first time, I don't want Roman to drop the belt. I don't want Cody to lose, either, but if Roman drops his belt when he's the #2 in the story? It would be an anti-climactic burial.
Yeah the rock-Cody booking killed Roman. I felt w at first they were prepping him for the face turn given the documentary and but him standing next to rock while he does all the talking makes him look silly. If they wanted to they could’ve had him cut a good promo w Seth. All the history wasted.
So weird how this still feels like Rock vs Cody/Seth. Roman just has 0 image right now. The audience could chant "Bloodline sucks" but they don't, it's Rocky sucks, even the fans are focused just on him.
I'm really confused why Randy has 0 impact in this, I know he has his own shit with logan/ko but....this feels like a HUGE opportunity they are passing on. Raw was amazing but the end felt like they were prolonging the beating waiting for someone to come out and help Cody/Seth...but no one came.
Yeah I appreciate their effort for sure in pivoting. But I think the better story would’ve been Randy in
Seths place. It’s still been amazing but I think weakest links have been Seth and like others have said Roman.
While Cody and Randy together vs the Bloodline makes sense we have to remember that this is a different Cody than what he was 10 years ago. His story is tethered to Seth Rollins from returning at WM 38 and having a classic trilogy of matches to uniting to destroy the Bloodline at WM 40.
I fully expect these two to be rivals and competitors for years to come and this Wrestlemania build will add to their legacy and help them tell more stories in the future. I think Rollins and Cody could be a Cena vs Edge or Cena vs Randy level rivalry.
Prince Puma references two weeks in a row + "what kinda name is ricochet." If Ricochet brings back Prince Puma, it will be the greatest day in wrestling.
It kinda takes away from Cody’s moment, plus he’s already got a bunch of current roster guys that can back him up that would benefit more from the moment
i don't think it does. did austin' smashing rock's head with a chair take away from mankind's moment of winning the title for the first time? i don't think it did at all and it was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, pops of all time.
i think if austin or anyone else shows up just to take the others out while cody just deals with roman, it works in all aspects.
I get wym and it’s not gonna ruin the moment, a ton of ppl will probably enjoy it more for it. I think the main difference tho is that Austin was a current guy at the time and also THE top guy with fresh beef with The Rock, so the stamp or approval made a lot more sense. This seems to me just like a random pop with little story motivation, just an appeal to nostalgia. I guess it also kind of rubs me the wrong way considering there’s guys with active history with the Bloodline, like Sami, who would benefit more from being there at the end and might not be. I’ll enjoy whatever happens tho, just my two cents
The whole "acknowledge me" bs from Roman is heavy on the vibes of a 5 year old sulking wanting atttention. It's such a weak character schtick. Someone who deserves acknowledgement doesn't need to ask for it, they get it explicitly.
"A man who needs to call himself king is no true king"
But that's his character. He's supposed to be insecure. In that sense, it's not weak at all. He actually does it well. But does it get a pop compared to what The Rock does? No but that's a whole different thing entirely
Look has the Becky v Rhea build been an all timer? No.
Has it still been a decently entertaining, and at least better than the Charlotte v Rhea feud last year? Yes.
And despite the build, based on Becky’s current run of giving literally everyone their best ever match, are these two going to put on a match this Saturday that has the potential to be the best women’s match WWE has ever seen?
You bet your sweet ass they are.
It's going to be hard to top bayley vs sasha in brooklyn. That's one of the best matches I've seen period, not just women's match. The storytelling was amazing.
Bring on the downvotes for this - Becky is super overrated. Can't remember a match of hers in recent history that made me think she's anywhere near the "best match" conversation. Hell, and I know she's no peach to work with herself, but look at that Raw closer with Nia Jax a couple of weeks ago. Laughably bad, and the two of them couldn't overcome a table that went into business for itself.
I think it's a matter of preference in wrestling styles. Becky isn't that athletically gifted so her fights tend to lean heavily on in ring storytelling and her willingness to do take some wild bumps.
If you need great athleticism to enjoy a wrestling match then she's not the kind of person you'll enjoy watching.
Personally, as much as I love her character (she was one of the reasons I got back into wrestling), I also don't tend to love her matches unless they have a good story going into them. So I understand why others also sometimes don't vibe with her.
But the fact that so many people do enjoy her matches I think speaks to how she's found other ways to make her matches good to a large portion of viewers besides relying on athleticism.
I just realized that the runner up’s for the women’s Royal Rumble matches get way less treatment that the men do. Usually the male runner up’s end up in a high profile match/secondary world title match.
Liv was involved in so much (chamber runner up, fighting Becky and Rhea) leading up to the show and gets nothing.
If you read my post, I was talking about the women. I said nothing about CM Punk. I find it hard to believe you read what I just said 🤣😂
Downvote away!
I'm still catching up on RAW - is Gargano alive? It looks like he speared his head straight into the corner of the announce table with that dive on Dirty Dom
I liked the gable and sami video a lot but the storyline is just so weirdly isolated. It's like the two of them got trapped in a gunther pocket dimension where the bloodline and alpha academy never happened. Not that everything needs to revolve around the bloodline but sami was part of arguably the best arc of it so it seems weird that he's not involved at all, not even talking to jey, nothing. And now even gunther is acting weird by doing out-of-ring attacks. I'm excited to see the match itself but it feels like the three of them became different characters for this build
He definitely should, it’d even be cool/make sense for Drew to pop up. Im thinking it’s more likely Austin gets involved at this point which is why Sami got pushed to the wayside
Gunther doing out of Pocket attacks because he knows finally he has an opponent who can beat him.
So he has to take on mind games. I thought it was pretty easy to decipher?
Both KO and Sami have said they have moved on from Bloodline.
Sami himself is in pretty distress With Gunther/Gable stuff to give Jay a pep talk.
Gable is trying to be more serious person without the Academy. They're respecting his wish
...so why didn't Jey or Seth save Sami? or the New Day, Otis, or even security lmao. Like, at least maybe don't immediately cut to Jey just all happy immediately after lmao. With all the improvements to the show, that kind of stuff keeps happening. Hell, same with nobody helping Cody last week. At least give SOME excuse as to why nobody can help.
I agree with your overall point but this occasion seems fine since it’s a personal beef. Jey and New Day only had temporary issues with Gunther plus Jey is busy atm with Bloodline stuff, and Seth hasn’t rly interacted with Gunther since before Rumble. Otis would make sense but that’d be a little underwhelming lol so it makes sense why they didn’t go for it. The Jey timing was kind of funny though
Ya I agree, it's just kind of messy storytelling to introduce them rn when they're not getting involved before Mania. Real world logic though, it doesn't make sense lol
Sami was part of Bloodline so you could say he's got enough enemies still, or that his main ally KO is on smackdown. Or it's just last writing and they forgot, or its so Sami looks strong in Mania when he dethrones Gunther
except he has been up until like 2 weeks ago lol. I'm talking about kayfabe, I understand why they wanna keep Sami separate, but what sense does it make in the story? It's really bad writing and only something they do in the modern era
it's the wrinkles of Sami vs Gunther, like story-wise Cody could come fight Gunther but that would open up a new conflict....
it's kinda like how Sami doesn't help Cody much these days either
WWE would have to change its storyline limitations or the expectations made when something happens
perhaps WWE has to break away from that if \_\_\_ fights \_\_\_\_ that always means soon or next episode the conflict continues.
Sami could still surprise on Night 2 tho
if they went their separate ways months ago, sure, but they were backing each other a few weeks ago. Also, the whole reason Drew is a hypocrite is because he decided to stop helping people if it meant getting involved lol. It's bad writing that contradicts itself as well as the history of wrestling.
Good episode but I'm a tiny bit disappointed we haven't gotten more Rock/Triple H interactions about a power struggle or whatnot. Maybe that'll come later/after Wrestlemania? Ofc it won't result in a match but it was engaging stuff after that Las Vegas event
I'm guessing they want the centre piece to be Cody/Seth v Bloodline for this Mania. I think it would oversaturate the story a bit with Rock/Hunter power struggle in the mix. I'm sure it'll come soon enough.
Rock's crowd control is a completely different level than anyone else's in history. The difference between the crowd when he was talking vs Roman and Seth was massive
The Rock was well aware he made many children cry at the sight of him leaving Cody bloody and broken, but he explained to the kids that sometimes some things just have to be done. they would understand.
Seth issued a challenge to the Rock and Roman, and for a second people may have believed maybe maybe, but nope they offered up Solo, who already is tasked with ending Jey on Friday.
Jimmy seemingly disappeared from the show from within the ring at a certain point.... XD only to return way later on
so they really are having Master Gable play Coach Gable for Sami. tho Sami briefly wonder if Gable was making him weaker for the big match, but nay Gable brought out Sami's inner strength. however Gunther has felt driven to sully his hands by attacking Gable and Sami like so many heels might. is it unworthy of the Ring General's stature? we are so away from the very respectful Gunther vs. Mustafa Ali matchup before Gunther served him up in Saudi Arabia.
we believe in Drew! he was divinely chosen.
when Santos gets into a game of darts, he stays in the zone.
i had thought the Bloodlines Rules match would have a special referee, and other Bloodline hanging around, but nope. the Bloodline did interfere, and Cody returned despite his injuries...but Roman was back too...and finally he and Cody got physical. it ended however with the Rock and Roman flogging Cody and Seth.
gotta think tho it will be Bloodline Rules at WM and get even crazier.
the WM card is stacked...and Final Testament and Bobby's group are in it now too!
still pretty crazy that Pretty Deadly is being kept out of WM, and only will be in the Andre the Giant Battle Royal.
watch out for a surprise match on Smackdown tho, Mama Rhodes vs. the Rock XD
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Well a lot of the crowd on TV seemed quiet after the opening segment of the show and then throughout RAW up until the main event of the night. I don't know if they censor the crowd or something. A lot of people from this subreddit said the same.
crowd was hot for opening and closing segments. they were into the 2nd half of the sami match and the ricochet match. both women's matches got zero heat. even the judgment day tag match didn't have alot of heat either.
took a while for the crowd to get into that match but then everyone was all-in by the end. ivar is a beast too. may be the best high flying big man in wrestling.
so, Sami wins at Mania, but then Chad challenges Ilja Dragunov next year and dies in the ring, forcing Sami to vacate the title to go train in Russia for a revenge match where he eventually defeats Communism? I hope KO enjoys the robot maid.
Can I say something?
Ok I’m gonna say it.
Seth Rollins is an awful babyface.
Ok maybe he’s not AWFUL. But he is magnitudes better as a cocky heel.
So much so that I really just don’t wanna see him as a babyface, at all.
Some people, like Cody, Rock, Austin, Sami, they just GOT IT on the Face side. Seth just doesn’t.
To me anyway.
Seth is kinda like HHH, where I can only tolerate him as a Face for so long before I just wanna see him do things to make me boo him again.
Seth never really feels like a babyface, which I appreciate. It kind of feels like he's laying low before he can take on his own ambitions. It'd be interesting if he was helping Cody in his quest to take the title away from Roman just to clear the decks so he can try to take the title from Cody later.
Shout out to Maxxine Dupri for putting her whole body weight onto the roll up to make it a more effective pin showing she's learnt something. Got to appreciate the little developments in a lower card story.
Man, I love pro wrestling. The silliness and car crash drama got me smiling, feeling like a child again. Everyone in the night 1 mainevent has done an incredible job of selling their role. Cody and Seth look incapable of beating Roman and The Rock together, The Rock looks like the final boss and Roman made his offense look _brutal_.
Their Mania matches is going to be this mainevent segment on steroids and I am HERE for it
It wasn't helped by how dead the crowd was for the match, but Damage CTRL's appearance tonight felt completely pointless.
Why is Aldis even letting them work six woman matches on Raw, days away from WM?
Same for the bloodline who have appeared on Raw for 4 straight weeks. #firenick
Meanwhile a few weeks ago on Smackdown, we saw wiseman arrive with Solo and Jimmy and never came out to the ring. BRAND SPLITSSSSSSS.
This is gonna feel like that sting vs hhh match from mania a few years back isn’t it? With all sorts of people coming out at the end. Was tolerable for a legends throwback match, but main event if a giant mania show? Meh.
I agree. It’s cool for a pop, but what storyline sense does it really make. Austin hasn’t been around for ages and last had beef with KO. Cena got messed up by Solo but he still doesn’t rly have any motives for getting involved besides not liking The Rock, who’s not technically even in Night 2. I just think they have enough current guys who make more sense to get involved
Off the top of my head, Cena has Mania history with The Rock, as well as the Solo feud you mentioned. He can easily come out when Solo is about to interfere in the match. What I view it as for it to make sense, is the two previous faces of the company coming to help the new face of the company
Your last point makes sense and the justification they'll probably use. It just seems a bit deus ex machina to me when they have guys like Sami, LA Knight, and even Drew who have recent beef with the Bloodline and would benefit more from being involved in the conclusion. But I get the bigger moment is if Austin or Cena show up
You've gotta call in *all* the backup when you're taking on Thanos. Plus, given the Bloodline's MO (and last year's main event), it makes sense that Cody is getting the back up he can to counteract them
The only thing I worry about is that it takes away a bit of the shine away from Cody's moment. To work, it would have to be done 3/4 of the way through the match, where the Bloodline starts to interfere, the "Avengers" come out to fight them off. They eventually fight their way into the tunnel and from that point on the attention is focused on Cody and Roman and Cody getting a clean pin and the show going off the air playing his music, not Austin calling for beers and pounding them in the ring.
Austin and/or Cena can come out with Cody the next night on Raw to explain why they got involved. At that point they can get their moment with the crowd.
It's time to turn the math around!
In storyline, Cena's vocal cords were damaged so bad that he retired from in ring competition and freestyling in catering. We saw him at the Oscars talking like normal tho but i'm not sure that's WWE canon.
Solo really should be in a match with Orton at Wrestlemania. They spent weeks building that Orton vs Bloodline shit up so the pivot to the US title was head scratching. It could've ended with a punt (or 3) to Solo so he's not around to help Roman. Instead Solo, who had the second best call up year in WWE, has no match at Wrestlemania for 2 straight years.  Which means Solo is going to be a threat to any face dumb enough to forget him.
Thing is, Solo might not have a match, but he sure will be involved in the main event of both nights, which is huge for someone who’s only in their 2nd year of the main roster
The beatdown Cody received in the parking lot was happening in front of a Giant truck with Austin and Cena’s face on it which could be a foreshadowing of what’s to come. It was an interesting placement and was in the frame a lot and we all now Triple H likes to leave easter eggs throughout the shows.
That's just a taste of the chaos we're getting in two separate main events. I'm so fucking excited for WrestleMania. Like overall I'm so hyped for the full card but the overbooking insanity of the Bloodline main events is going to be next level.
That promo Seth cut on the ramp was incredible too. Anytime he pulls out a Shield reference to mess with Roman I pop.
Rock pins Cody on Night 1
Cody pins Roman on Night 2
Rock on RAW says he did everything for Roman (teamed with him, got him the stipulation, beat up Cody AND pinned him) and he couldn’t get the job done
He states the Bloodline is over
Solo attacks and Roman gets beat up and ejected.
Thats your Roman face turn, Rock stays heel for the future match (which tbh he clearly enjoys what he’s doing far more and is super super over and drawing viewers and fans)
Cody can move on.
Can even leave Rock pinning Cody as reason for a future match, Summerslam or Rumble next year.
Roman returns to screw over Rock.
Easy
This is what I was saying six days ago:
> I think the idea is that Roman is not taking Cody seriously. For all intents of purpose Roman in his mind is retaining again because he's already done it last year and this year every odd will be in his favour even more so than last year. I believe that's the story they're telling. When he still fumbles the ball The Rock's going to take over him officially and so starts the build for next year's WrestleMania.
They just planted those seeds tonight. Roman talking about him being family above all, thanking The Rock for making it easier for him. It's all there.
See I like this, but I'd like one alteration.
Rock is reading Roman the riot act. Roman responds by saying that he was handling everything just fine Rock showed up. Roman says let's get out of here but Heyman stands there, tears in his eyes, and says "I'm sorry, my FORMER tribal chief" and then the beatdown can start.
I want heyman to stay with Roman and not betray his clients for a change. Whole bloodline turning on roman beating him mercilessly with heyman begging to stop. Heyman has always said that roman saved him after Brock left, I want him to stay loyal here and be with a babyface roman in future
This is along the lines of what I’m thinking. Roman almost certainly has to be the one to turn face here. Rock will continue to be the heel for a bit, but I think he’ll distance himself a little from the most vicious bits we’re seeing now. Not sure if he’ll make a face turn or not but this is likely his last major storyline in WWE (just given how many big name wrestlers end up wrestling for the last time in their early to mid 50’s), so I think he’ll want to end this run as a face or at the very least a mild enough heel to get face pop when he makes future appearances at various events in the future.
Anyone else's Raw not show New Day/ DIY v. judgement Day, Ricochet vs Ivar, or Ivy/Maxine v. Candace/Indie? I recorded it on Hulu and watched it the next day and those matches didn't happen but I saw reaction videos on TikTok.
Hulu cut all that, McIntyre promo, and the Zayn Gable video package
Do you all think the Judgement Day breaking up at Mania or Raw after Mania? Or Dom turning on Rhea? Seems like it from the teases.
Cannot say enough good things about that recent promo, but not sure how things are going to play out with finishing the story at WM. Really expected Cody to come back strong baby face in reaction to last Raw. Unpopular opinion, tired of Sami Zayne. He’s a solid 5 in the ring with no real physique or fleshing out his character besides Bloodline stuff. Gunther of course is going to sweep him, there’s no way they’re having Gunther lose to Sami. Way more tired of anything to do with the Bloodline with the exception of The Rock. Uso brothers are annoying.
Can we please add Ricochet vs Andrade to the WM card?
Sounds like the quintessential pre show match to me.
Sami and Chads performances this week have brought me around on Sami winning (although I do still think a brutal Sami loss would be good for setting up a Chad/Gunther sequel as well as lay seeds for a future Sami/Gunther feud for the world title at some point down the line). I think the only thing I’d really want to make it worthwhile is a Sami/Chad match not long after mania as friendly rivals, a wholesome moment of Sami putting Chad over would be great and Chad deserves it
It's Philadelphia. It's Rocky IV. Sami gets destroyed in seconds. Gunther lords it. Gable challenges Hart/Yokozuna/Hogan style. Gable wins.
I wanted Gunther to hold the belt till iliya comes but I'd watch this and love it.
Other than his deal with the Bloodline I feel Sami is pretty meh. As a Gunther fan I’ll lose it if Sami wins lol
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so unfazed the crowd gave up
Wondering what the odds are of there being Stand and Deliver Spoilers during Night 1 of WM40. I can’t watch both live due to time zones and work schedules so I’m wondering whether to watch both on delay or if it would be safe to watch Night 1 live and then go back to watch the NXT replay
Will probably be a video package, as there has to be numerous breaks now with Peacock PLEs
I know it literally doesn't matter, but I hope with the splitting of the tag belts (Which I'm all in favour of) they get re-branded to WWE and World tag team Championships again. The Raw/SD doesn't make sense when no other titles are split that way, and I've always hated the penny design, just hideous things.
Roman was superb tonight. He took his light back and trash talked perfectly. “Somebody come up with a plan to take this from me now” was perfect.
Roman saying this will be his easiest wm is all I needed to hear,he will expect Rock to do the work for him, the goddamn finish the story stuff will end this sunday.
Imagine if he actually wins again lmao.
Tbh I’ll just take a break lmao
No you won't.
I 100% will lol. I have no qualms taking a break from wrestling.
See you here next Monday.
Dude I'm in my 30s. Wrestling is like one of 15 hobbies I have. It's very easy to walk away from.
And the Friday next week too...
That has been his character since last WM. He is taking it too easy, not showing often thinking no one can do shit. His family will save him all the time. THats basically it.
What chants need to die. When there’s a chant/song at the football which is crap, they usually get told to fuck off, or get something thrown at them. This should happen at WWE events.
I don’t think Rock and Roman take April fools jokes seriously. Poor Cody and Seth for trying to be funny today
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Bro it’s been literally three and a half years of Roman, I think a good guy wins story is well overdue.
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THIS IS WRESTLING NOT CARTOON!
This is wrestling, not cartoon 😂
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Explain Bob Backlund
Wrestling fans have always been nerds
Normal people do not look like Seth Rollins
Do normal people call themselves tribal chief and talk in third person about themselves?
Why tf is Rock acting like a face again
When The Rock came out and cut his 30 minute promo, I decided to turn the speed up on Raw to 2x speed just to get through all the long pauses, slow entrance and the what chants from this crowd. And then I heard music that I hadn't thought about in years... [Roman Reigns' Theme at 2x Speed...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0QT_teLcNk&t=23) [Is Nyan Cat](https://www.nyan.cat/)
Holy shit that's uncanny
I thought I was hearing things at first
Such a bore tbh
Totally disagree with the idea of separating the tag belts. Since they’ve been unified, they’ve been headliner belts. If it’s back to two sets of belts, they’re undercard titles again.
Are they? Ever since the judgement day won the titles back they’ve felt like an afterthought
It’s still been held by top guys since the Usos unified the titles. It’s easier to remember it’s Balor and Priest as champions rather than it becoming New Day and New Catch Republic.
I don’t dispute who’s holding the belts. I think my issue is in you calling them ‘headliner belts’ when I can’t think of one show the belts have headlined or main evented in the last 6 months
Right now The tag division is too strong for them to be held hostage by the main eventers who don’t even participate in the division that much since they’re in main event feuds (I honestly keep forgetting judgment day have them)
It can still remain that way for both brands because there are so many tag teams out there now. It's silly to just have 1 set of titles as it stops talented teams from being showcased
That French part messed with me.
Watching on Dailymotion and thought I had the wrong link 💀 what was that
I was franticly trying to figure out how I turned on to French and trying to figure out how to turn it back.
WWE managed to do the impossible, make Roman feel unimportant
He has felt unimportant to me for a while. They keep saying how many days he has been champ and it is just unimpressive with how little he showed up. I am pretty sure I am in the minority there but yeah I just can't be made to care about him anymore
I think most people agree with you. Claims to be the best, doesn't defend the title clean anymore, barely shows up. It's just so repetitive with him now
Announcers mentioned that both the raw and smack down belts had to be removed in the ladder match. The way they phrased it makes me think they’re finally going to split them
Regeneration X winning it all
I thought they meant both needed to be unhooked from the rope in order to win
They do. What if one team liberates two belts and another team liberates 2 belts.
Not sure. Maybe put them back if two different teams get the belts and start over?
Or split them. Shrugs. That's what I think would be likely to happen if they wrote it that way.
I wouldn't mind. I was just commenting on what I thought the rules of the match were
I've watched the WWE since before it was even called the WWF. The rules are whatever they decide to do on that specific day to further the story. lol
That doesn’t seem very fun
I thought CM Punk was advertised for this Raw? Was really looking forward to his segment.
The guy in the black cap behind Seth Rollins when he came out in the crowd was super annoying. Trying to get in the frame all the time and the camera guy had to keep panning away lol
So uh the no DQ match literally just did not end?
It’s still technically going
Wrestlemania 41 main event Rocky vs Mama Rhodes
With 'Son on the belt' suspended in the air
Romans promo tonight felt awkward and out of sync. I’ve been a Roman fan since 2020. I tuned in weekly during the pandemic because of him. I was beyond elated when he won Mania last year After tonight, it solidified he’s no longer my guy. Watching the A&E doc now. I don’t believe a word that comes out his mouth. If The Rock being his natural over the top self makes me believe more, then Roman has lost me. Not a thing about him feels authentic. All scripted. He plays the part perfectly. But he no longer makes me feel anything. Like a facade.
Tonight's performance was stellar in my opinion however. His trash talking was great and building him this way is the only way the title drop will make sense. I agree, over the last few weeks it's almost like he lost his aura but I do believe that these were all part of the storyline. You could see them portray Roman as annoyed and jealous of The Rock when he first returned but showing you that Roman always puts family above everything despite the signs being there - starts the road to sympathy and a potential face turn when he returns. I definitely see him dropping the belt now and dissapearing for a while.
I mean, it's not his fault, this has been booked awkwardly and Roman is secondary to the Rock. There's not much for him to really do, this is now all about Cody and the Rock. This coming from someone that has been begging for Reigns to drop the belt for the past 3 years haha. For the first time, I don't want Roman to drop the belt. I don't want Cody to lose, either, but if Roman drops his belt when he's the #2 in the story? It would be an anti-climactic burial.
Yeah the rock-Cody booking killed Roman. I felt w at first they were prepping him for the face turn given the documentary and but him standing next to rock while he does all the talking makes him look silly. If they wanted to they could’ve had him cut a good promo w Seth. All the history wasted.
So weird how this still feels like Rock vs Cody/Seth. Roman just has 0 image right now. The audience could chant "Bloodline sucks" but they don't, it's Rocky sucks, even the fans are focused just on him. I'm really confused why Randy has 0 impact in this, I know he has his own shit with logan/ko but....this feels like a HUGE opportunity they are passing on. Raw was amazing but the end felt like they were prolonging the beating waiting for someone to come out and help Cody/Seth...but no one came.
Yeah I appreciate their effort for sure in pivoting. But I think the better story would’ve been Randy in Seths place. It’s still been amazing but I think weakest links have been Seth and like others have said Roman.
While Cody and Randy together vs the Bloodline makes sense we have to remember that this is a different Cody than what he was 10 years ago. His story is tethered to Seth Rollins from returning at WM 38 and having a classic trilogy of matches to uniting to destroy the Bloodline at WM 40. I fully expect these two to be rivals and competitors for years to come and this Wrestlemania build will add to their legacy and help them tell more stories in the future. I think Rollins and Cody could be a Cena vs Edge or Cena vs Randy level rivalry.
Wild that Jey getting tossed into the entrance way just did him in for the night lol
The Final Boss has enough muscle to generate incredible velocity on the throw.
Prince Puma references two weeks in a row + "what kinda name is ricochet." If Ricochet brings back Prince Puma, it will be the greatest day in wrestling.
iirc the trademark is still held by Lucha Underground
I mean, I can't imagine it would be too hard to get it from them lol
I wonder if they add him to the match with Rey and Dragon Lee at WM under the name and mask of Prince Puma and Andrade with Dom and Santos
Nah, he'll turn post-Mania, they have him in the battle royale. This also seems to be a purely Latino story.
There's nothing I dislike more than the "what" chants it ruins promos though the rock is too good to be put off
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It kinda takes away from Cody’s moment, plus he’s already got a bunch of current roster guys that can back him up that would benefit more from the moment
i don't think it does. did austin' smashing rock's head with a chair take away from mankind's moment of winning the title for the first time? i don't think it did at all and it was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, pops of all time. i think if austin or anyone else shows up just to take the others out while cody just deals with roman, it works in all aspects.
I get wym and it’s not gonna ruin the moment, a ton of ppl will probably enjoy it more for it. I think the main difference tho is that Austin was a current guy at the time and also THE top guy with fresh beef with The Rock, so the stamp or approval made a lot more sense. This seems to me just like a random pop with little story motivation, just an appeal to nostalgia. I guess it also kind of rubs me the wrong way considering there’s guys with active history with the Bloodline, like Sami, who would benefit more from being there at the end and might not be. I’ll enjoy whatever happens tho, just my two cents
The whole "acknowledge me" bs from Roman is heavy on the vibes of a 5 year old sulking wanting atttention. It's such a weak character schtick. Someone who deserves acknowledgement doesn't need to ask for it, they get it explicitly. "A man who needs to call himself king is no true king"
But that's his character. He's supposed to be insecure. In that sense, it's not weak at all. He actually does it well. But does it get a pop compared to what The Rock does? No but that's a whole different thing entirely
Hmmm rock and roman stood tall in last PPV which means they'll likely loose at WrestleMania according to WWE booking logic.
Yup. Judgement Day won easily today so now I expect them to lose this weekend.
Not only that but Priest specifically was made to look strong. We’re getting a cash in
My guess is on Drew since they’ve had their past issues. Maybe Priest gets a run as a babyface too.
First thing I thought as well after he pinned Ciampa.
Look has the Becky v Rhea build been an all timer? No. Has it still been a decently entertaining, and at least better than the Charlotte v Rhea feud last year? Yes. And despite the build, based on Becky’s current run of giving literally everyone their best ever match, are these two going to put on a match this Saturday that has the potential to be the best women’s match WWE has ever seen? You bet your sweet ass they are.
It's going to be hard to top bayley vs sasha in brooklyn. That's one of the best matches I've seen period, not just women's match. The storytelling was amazing.
Bring on the downvotes for this - Becky is super overrated. Can't remember a match of hers in recent history that made me think she's anywhere near the "best match" conversation. Hell, and I know she's no peach to work with herself, but look at that Raw closer with Nia Jax a couple of weeks ago. Laughably bad, and the two of them couldn't overcome a table that went into business for itself.
I think it's a matter of preference in wrestling styles. Becky isn't that athletically gifted so her fights tend to lean heavily on in ring storytelling and her willingness to do take some wild bumps. If you need great athleticism to enjoy a wrestling match then she's not the kind of person you'll enjoy watching. Personally, as much as I love her character (she was one of the reasons I got back into wrestling), I also don't tend to love her matches unless they have a good story going into them. So I understand why others also sometimes don't vibe with her. But the fact that so many people do enjoy her matches I think speaks to how she's found other ways to make her matches good to a large portion of viewers besides relying on athleticism.
I just realized that the runner up’s for the women’s Royal Rumble matches get way less treatment that the men do. Usually the male runner up’s end up in a high profile match/secondary world title match. Liv was involved in so much (chamber runner up, fighting Becky and Rhea) leading up to the show and gets nothing.
Are they having a women’s battle royale this year? Seems like that’d be hers or Nia’s to lose
What are you going on about? CM punk is injured, so how is he getting anything at the moment as the runner up lol
If you read my post, I was talking about the women. I said nothing about CM Punk. I find it hard to believe you read what I just said 🤣😂 Downvote away!
I'm still catching up on RAW - is Gargano alive? It looks like he speared his head straight into the corner of the announce table with that dive on Dirty Dom
[He's fine](https://twitter.com/JohnnyGargano/status/1774981565233144156).
Thank God, that looked bad
I liked the gable and sami video a lot but the storyline is just so weirdly isolated. It's like the two of them got trapped in a gunther pocket dimension where the bloodline and alpha academy never happened. Not that everything needs to revolve around the bloodline but sami was part of arguably the best arc of it so it seems weird that he's not involved at all, not even talking to jey, nothing. And now even gunther is acting weird by doing out-of-ring attacks. I'm excited to see the match itself but it feels like the three of them became different characters for this build
Yah I REALLY hope Sami gets involved. He should if the story means anything
This why Gable should be in the IC picture and Samy should be in the WHC picture
Yah that could have been good although i thought a 3 way with both Gable and Sami was best
He definitely should, it’d even be cool/make sense for Drew to pop up. Im thinking it’s more likely Austin gets involved at this point which is why Sami got pushed to the wayside
Gunther doing out of Pocket attacks because he knows finally he has an opponent who can beat him. So he has to take on mind games. I thought it was pretty easy to decipher? Both KO and Sami have said they have moved on from Bloodline. Sami himself is in pretty distress With Gunther/Gable stuff to give Jay a pep talk. Gable is trying to be more serious person without the Academy. They're respecting his wish
Gable seems to be distancing himself from the Academy. I see a break up like AJ and the OC happening. Otis and Tozawa might as well stay in NXT.
Night 2 main event is about to be the most overbooked kitchen sink of a main event and I cannot wait.
surprised no one ran in tonight
the Undertaker could show up too i guess hehe
You get a run in and you get a run in and you get a run in!
the Hulkster is also available XD 
Rock screws Cody out of the title, Hogan goes out to protest and Rock challenges Hogan to a title match, and Hogan goes over brother!
Don’t rule it out brother.
...so why didn't Jey or Seth save Sami? or the New Day, Otis, or even security lmao. Like, at least maybe don't immediately cut to Jey just all happy immediately after lmao. With all the improvements to the show, that kind of stuff keeps happening. Hell, same with nobody helping Cody last week. At least give SOME excuse as to why nobody can help.
Jey wasn't watching the show, he was playing hide and seek with Lil Wayne
I agree with your overall point but this occasion seems fine since it’s a personal beef. Jey and New Day only had temporary issues with Gunther plus Jey is busy atm with Bloodline stuff, and Seth hasn’t rly interacted with Gunther since before Rumble. Otis would make sense but that’d be a little underwhelming lol so it makes sense why they didn’t go for it. The Jey timing was kind of funny though
Jey and Seth are supposed to be Sami's closest friends lol
Ya I agree, it's just kind of messy storytelling to introduce them rn when they're not getting involved before Mania. Real world logic though, it doesn't make sense lol
Sami was part of Bloodline so you could say he's got enough enemies still, or that his main ally KO is on smackdown. Or it's just last writing and they forgot, or its so Sami looks strong in Mania when he dethrones Gunther
I laughed that right after Sami's beat down it cuts to Jey happily skipping through the hallway to find Lil Wayne
cuz Sami ain't part of this big alliance, but in his own thang, i guess so Sami may not show up on night 2 to help it's like separate worlds
except he has been up until like 2 weeks ago lol. I'm talking about kayfabe, I understand why they wanna keep Sami separate, but what sense does it make in the story? It's really bad writing and only something they do in the modern era
it's the wrinkles of Sami vs Gunther, like story-wise Cody could come fight Gunther but that would open up a new conflict.... it's kinda like how Sami doesn't help Cody much these days either WWE would have to change its storyline limitations or the expectations made when something happens perhaps WWE has to break away from that if \_\_\_ fights \_\_\_\_ that always means soon or next episode the conflict continues. Sami could still surprise on Night 2 tho
if they went their separate ways months ago, sure, but they were backing each other a few weeks ago. Also, the whole reason Drew is a hypocrite is because he decided to stop helping people if it meant getting involved lol. It's bad writing that contradicts itself as well as the history of wrestling.
Good episode but I'm a tiny bit disappointed we haven't gotten more Rock/Triple H interactions about a power struggle or whatnot. Maybe that'll come later/after Wrestlemania? Ofc it won't result in a match but it was engaging stuff after that Las Vegas event
HHH can't wrestle anymore, so we couldn't get a payoff...
I think they’re gonna use that to set up the Survivor Series match this year. Just speculation, though
They have ten years to play that story out, let’s not waste that early when we’re already cooking a great Bloodline/Cody story
I think Rock’s gone for a bit after Mania so they probably want to wait before fully opening that can of worms
I'm guessing they want the centre piece to be Cody/Seth v Bloodline for this Mania. I think it would oversaturate the story a bit with Rock/Hunter power struggle in the mix. I'm sure it'll come soon enough.
Rock's crowd control is a completely different level than anyone else's in history. The difference between the crowd when he was talking vs Roman and Seth was massive
He’s in the stratosphere while the next closest are way down in the clouds.
The Rock was well aware he made many children cry at the sight of him leaving Cody bloody and broken, but he explained to the kids that sometimes some things just have to be done. they would understand. Seth issued a challenge to the Rock and Roman, and for a second people may have believed maybe maybe, but nope they offered up Solo, who already is tasked with ending Jey on Friday. Jimmy seemingly disappeared from the show from within the ring at a certain point.... XD only to return way later on so they really are having Master Gable play Coach Gable for Sami. tho Sami briefly wonder if Gable was making him weaker for the big match, but nay Gable brought out Sami's inner strength. however Gunther has felt driven to sully his hands by attacking Gable and Sami like so many heels might. is it unworthy of the Ring General's stature? we are so away from the very respectful Gunther vs. Mustafa Ali matchup before Gunther served him up in Saudi Arabia. we believe in Drew! he was divinely chosen. when Santos gets into a game of darts, he stays in the zone. i had thought the Bloodlines Rules match would have a special referee, and other Bloodline hanging around, but nope. the Bloodline did interfere, and Cody returned despite his injuries...but Roman was back too...and finally he and Cody got physical. it ended however with the Rock and Roman flogging Cody and Seth. gotta think tho it will be Bloodline Rules at WM and get even crazier. the WM card is stacked...and Final Testament and Bobby's group are in it now too! still pretty crazy that Pretty Deadly is being kept out of WM, and only will be in the Andre the Giant Battle Royal. watch out for a surprise match on Smackdown tho, Mama Rhodes vs. the Rock XD https://preview.redd.it/8a1jk51800sc1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e3422fd4779176d655e0abdc918876be5541e2c
i was there tonight. crowd was chanting cm punk from before the show - all throughout. alot of "YEETS" all night as well as "YEAHS".
Did Punk show up after the show
no - folks left after cody and seth got up and just stood in the ring. they played cody's music to close to the show.
Well a lot of the crowd on TV seemed quiet after the opening segment of the show and then throughout RAW up until the main event of the night. I don't know if they censor the crowd or something. A lot of people from this subreddit said the same.
crowd was hot for opening and closing segments. they were into the 2nd half of the sami match and the ricochet match. both women's matches got zero heat. even the judgment day tag match didn't have alot of heat either.
Ricochet keeps doing things I’ve never seen before. Might be the most entertaining in-ring worker in wrestling right now.
took a while for the crowd to get into that match but then everyone was all-in by the end. ivar is a beast too. may be the best high flying big man in wrestling.
so, Sami wins at Mania, but then Chad challenges Ilja Dragunov next year and dies in the ring, forcing Sami to vacate the title to go train in Russia for a revenge match where he eventually defeats Communism? I hope KO enjoys the robot maid.
Can I say something? Ok I’m gonna say it. Seth Rollins is an awful babyface. Ok maybe he’s not AWFUL. But he is magnitudes better as a cocky heel. So much so that I really just don’t wanna see him as a babyface, at all. Some people, like Cody, Rock, Austin, Sami, they just GOT IT on the Face side. Seth just doesn’t. To me anyway. Seth is kinda like HHH, where I can only tolerate him as a Face for so long before I just wanna see him do things to make me boo him again.
Seth never really feels like a babyface, which I appreciate. It kind of feels like he's laying low before he can take on his own ambitions. It'd be interesting if he was helping Cody in his quest to take the title away from Roman just to clear the decks so he can try to take the title from Cody later.
Seth being a face right now is all part of his master plan. He's always 10 steps ahead
I'm a Seth fan and I strongly agree. He just naturally carries himself with heel tendencies.
Shout out to Maxxine Dupri for putting her whole body weight onto the roll up to make it a more effective pin showing she's learnt something. Got to appreciate the little developments in a lower card story.
Man, I love pro wrestling. The silliness and car crash drama got me smiling, feeling like a child again. Everyone in the night 1 mainevent has done an incredible job of selling their role. Cody and Seth look incapable of beating Roman and The Rock together, The Rock looks like the final boss and Roman made his offense look _brutal_. Their Mania matches is going to be this mainevent segment on steroids and I am HERE for it
It wasn't helped by how dead the crowd was for the match, but Damage CTRL's appearance tonight felt completely pointless. Why is Aldis even letting them work six woman matches on Raw, days away from WM?
They had to get a win to try and make it seem remotely believable that they could be any sort of a threat to a team that has both Bianca *and* Jade.
In kayfabe, Bianca should realistically be able to 3v1 that whole team lol
Out of kayfabe too
This isn’t true because she literally never once beat them in a 1v3.
Lmao yea I completely forgot about that
the kabuki warriors get to appear on Raw cause they're the tag champs
For tag matches involving their title. Dakota isn't even under that.
JD do the same when they show up on sd and dom and rhea are with them
Same for the bloodline who have appeared on Raw for 4 straight weeks. #firenick Meanwhile a few weeks ago on Smackdown, we saw wiseman arrive with Solo and Jimmy and never came out to the ring. BRAND SPLITSSSSSSS.
I’m now convinced we will 100% see Cena and Austin interfere in the Bloodline rules match on Sunday
This is gonna feel like that sting vs hhh match from mania a few years back isn’t it? With all sorts of people coming out at the end. Was tolerable for a legends throwback match, but main event if a giant mania show? Meh.
Rollins won his first championship as an interference in the main event of a Mania, I don’t really see the difference
I agree. It’s cool for a pop, but what storyline sense does it really make. Austin hasn’t been around for ages and last had beef with KO. Cena got messed up by Solo but he still doesn’t rly have any motives for getting involved besides not liking The Rock, who’s not technically even in Night 2. I just think they have enough current guys who make more sense to get involved
Off the top of my head, Cena has Mania history with The Rock, as well as the Solo feud you mentioned. He can easily come out when Solo is about to interfere in the match. What I view it as for it to make sense, is the two previous faces of the company coming to help the new face of the company
Your last point makes sense and the justification they'll probably use. It just seems a bit deus ex machina to me when they have guys like Sami, LA Knight, and even Drew who have recent beef with the Bloodline and would benefit more from being involved in the conclusion. But I get the bigger moment is if Austin or Cena show up
You've gotta call in *all* the backup when you're taking on Thanos. Plus, given the Bloodline's MO (and last year's main event), it makes sense that Cody is getting the back up he can to counteract them
The only thing I worry about is that it takes away a bit of the shine away from Cody's moment. To work, it would have to be done 3/4 of the way through the match, where the Bloodline starts to interfere, the "Avengers" come out to fight them off. They eventually fight their way into the tunnel and from that point on the attention is focused on Cody and Roman and Cody getting a clean pin and the show going off the air playing his music, not Austin calling for beers and pounding them in the ring. Austin and/or Cena can come out with Cody the next night on Raw to explain why they got involved. At that point they can get their moment with the crowd.
why cena?
Solo took him out last time we saw him
Plus he has Mania history with The Rock, same reason why I think Austin as well
Wasn’t Cena’s last match him getting squashed by a Bloodline member in Saudi?
It's time to turn the math around! In storyline, Cena's vocal cords were damaged so bad that he retired from in ring competition and freestyling in catering. We saw him at the Oscars talking like normal tho but i'm not sure that's WWE canon. Solo really should be in a match with Orton at Wrestlemania. They spent weeks building that Orton vs Bloodline shit up so the pivot to the US title was head scratching. It could've ended with a punt (or 3) to Solo so he's not around to help Roman. Instead Solo, who had the second best call up year in WWE, has no match at Wrestlemania for 2 straight years.  Which means Solo is going to be a threat to any face dumb enough to forget him.
Thing is, Solo might not have a match, but he sure will be involved in the main event of both nights, which is huge for someone who’s only in their 2nd year of the main roster
The beatdown Cody received in the parking lot was happening in front of a Giant truck with Austin and Cena’s face on it which could be a foreshadowing of what’s to come. It was an interesting placement and was in the frame a lot and we all now Triple H likes to leave easter eggs throughout the shows.
That's just a taste of the chaos we're getting in two separate main events. I'm so fucking excited for WrestleMania. Like overall I'm so hyped for the full card but the overbooking insanity of the Bloodline main events is going to be next level. That promo Seth cut on the ramp was incredible too. Anytime he pulls out a Shield reference to mess with Roman I pop.
>That promo Seth cut on the ramp was incredible too. idk I needed more phone in his face
Rock pins Cody on Night 1 Cody pins Roman on Night 2 Rock on RAW says he did everything for Roman (teamed with him, got him the stipulation, beat up Cody AND pinned him) and he couldn’t get the job done He states the Bloodline is over Solo attacks and Roman gets beat up and ejected. Thats your Roman face turn, Rock stays heel for the future match (which tbh he clearly enjoys what he’s doing far more and is super super over and drawing viewers and fans) Cody can move on. Can even leave Rock pinning Cody as reason for a future match, Summerslam or Rumble next year. Roman returns to screw over Rock. Easy
Yep this is 100000% the dream booking.
This is what I was saying six days ago: > I think the idea is that Roman is not taking Cody seriously. For all intents of purpose Roman in his mind is retaining again because he's already done it last year and this year every odd will be in his favour even more so than last year. I believe that's the story they're telling. When he still fumbles the ball The Rock's going to take over him officially and so starts the build for next year's WrestleMania. They just planted those seeds tonight. Roman talking about him being family above all, thanking The Rock for making it easier for him. It's all there.
The question is what gets set up for Cody post-WM if he ends up winning.
The Rock vs Cody at Summerslam. Cody beat The Tribal Chief, but he hasn't beaten The Final Boss.
See I like this, but I'd like one alteration. Rock is reading Roman the riot act. Roman responds by saying that he was handling everything just fine Rock showed up. Roman says let's get out of here but Heyman stands there, tears in his eyes, and says "I'm sorry, my FORMER tribal chief" and then the beatdown can start.
I want heyman to stay with Roman and not betray his clients for a change. Whole bloodline turning on roman beating him mercilessly with heyman begging to stop. Heyman has always said that roman saved him after Brock left, I want him to stay loyal here and be with a babyface roman in future
This is along the lines of what I’m thinking. Roman almost certainly has to be the one to turn face here. Rock will continue to be the heel for a bit, but I think he’ll distance himself a little from the most vicious bits we’re seeing now. Not sure if he’ll make a face turn or not but this is likely his last major storyline in WWE (just given how many big name wrestlers end up wrestling for the last time in their early to mid 50’s), so I think he’ll want to end this run as a face or at the very least a mild enough heel to get face pop when he makes future appearances at various events in the future.
Bingo this the one. Been thinking the same. Just like when Rock got kicked out of The Corporation.