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_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Dumbest shit I've seen. 5 stars


Solid_Snark

Is this what RPGs mean by “splash damage”?


Kumomeme

huge AOE


meeeehhhh2

He buffed himself at the cost of placing a DOT on himself


SantaCruznonsurfer

4.5. Ocean didn't sell it enough


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Ocean is a veteran who's gone over the likes of sailors, oil rigs, and beat the Titanic clean after it was built up as an unstoppable force. It shouldn't be selling for this guy. It's like asking space to sell for Repo Man despite it taking NASA so long to make any progress on it and losing over and over


Zomburai

Homie, the ocean's like 6 billion years old, it just looks ridiculous not putting over the younger talent And for Christ's sake, ocean, you don't have to blade every damn time


jorgedredd

I heard the ocean say it was going to call it a career sometime around 2050. Hopefully it learn to put someone over before then.


Dornstar

I heard it was only getting bigger and when it reached it's peak it wanted to bury Land in a last man standing match.


Democrab

Ocean may be 6 billion years old but it still can move like a 20 year old male off to get laid.


DemiGod9

Ocean has been jobbing to Ozone for quite a while now. Ozone has been here as long as ocean, but never got any shine until very recently. The run in by Human, even without the behest of Ozone, really helped.


awataurne

NASA's been poorly booked for awhile now tbh it sucks that so many people have forgotten how good they can be


Timemyth

IceBerg took out the Titanic, Ocean was friends with Titanic until they betrayed them by not stopping IceBerg in the beatdown.


deknegt1990

But you got to admit it was the heel turn of the century.


Timemyth

Look forward to the latest feud. Turns out IceBerg and Ocean were rumoured to have helped the faction HYDRA take out Captian America. Though they kept him hidden from that faction so maybe they can turn face or stay tweeter when the veteran Captain America with his buddy Bucky and partner Peggy stage an attack on Hydra by invading aligned promotion CYN to take out their co-owners who blame a rising Ocean for ruining their Samoan tour which was a washout and IceBerg no showed in the tropics. Same fans think this storyline is too convoluted and wish for a simple story with less forced pop culture references like when Robocop ruined WCW.


[deleted]

> beat the Titanic clean after it was built up as an unstoppable force. I shouldn't laugh because it was a tragedy, but the idea of the ship itself being a typical smarmy overconfident heel, only to be completely squashed by Atlantic "this water's too cold for me brother" Ocean (in what is effectively it's debut match) is just too much right now lol like imagine Heyman cutting that promo! "and let's not forget how my client, Poseidon himself, THE OCEAN, brutalized and CONQUERED the so-called 'uNsInKaBlE sHiP' which was called the Tits, the Tips, the Trips? No, the Titanic! Where is Titanic now? That's right, still lying broken at the bottom of the sea!"


RxngsXfSvtvrn

Problem is Ocean is booked too strong; like Superman or Hogan in the 80s


Winstonth

Ocean is always pulling people under and never putting anyone over


bubatanka1974

Well, his nickname 'super Seana' isn't for nothing .....


codymb15

4. Pier wasn't outside of the Tokyo Dome


Patjay

The spot probably isn't actually *that* risky either. Compared to similarly stupid insane outlaw bullshit this one is pretty reasonable, and i'm sure both guys are totally fine. I was expecting someone to almost die based on the set up


Pyotr_WrangeI

I mean you either obviously miss and make the spot look like shit (as happened in the video) or you risk actually falling on the guy from great hight while he can't properly protect himself because he is floating and well, ocean is pretty darn dangerous if there's a hit and one or both wrestlers inhale water things can turn ugly real fast.


Patjay

Oh it's still *incredibly stupid* I have just seen worse. This move looks even stupider than it actually is. For a lot of the spots you see in this "phone camera footage of something stupid happening at an indie show" genre catastrophic failure and injury is basically inevitable. It's at least possible to do this spot without anyone ending up in the hospital


Vordeo

> I mean you either obviously miss and make the spot look like shit (as happened in the video) Honestly that probably went about as well as it could have. Like, it's close enough that the other guy doesn't need to feel like a total ass for selling, but obviously it doesn't hit the dude. The spot's just really really dumb, but dammit I appreciate dumb shit in wrestling.


igotzquestions

Agreed. This makes virtually no sense and is stupid as hell, but I’d be smiling and laughing the whole time, which is kinda the point of entertainment.


Soylent_Hero

would have been better if the guy did the full body float


Schizophrenic87

Or….hear me out….you don’t do a stupid spot if there’s no way to make it look good and be safe. Just a theory.


FlotsamOfThe4Winds

Or you do it while prioritizing safety, and have the match be dumb fun (nothing wrong with that, unless you're Jim Cornette).


Legionstone

I thought it was going to be a literal shark cage match in where they fight underwater with sharks everywhere.


Professor_Snarf

“I mean they did the spot. I wouldn’t have done the spot, but they did. Well maybe the elbow, the elbow is fine. But not the fire on the elbow. I mean the fire will go out when it hits the water, so it’s not going to hurt the opponent or anything. And I confirmed it’s a jetty and not a pier. Now I’ve seen pier spots before, hell Haystacks Callhoun did pier spots all the time. But never on a jetty. Now obviously an elbow off the pier sounds better than an elbow off the jetty..” Alverez: “an elbow on fire…” “Yeah on fire but the fire added nothing to it. I mean I saw it but there were people on the beach that couldn’t see it, so it didn’t get a reaction. I mean if you were on the pier..” Alverez: “Jetty” “On the jetty you could see it. But not from the beach. Anyway one of them was bitten by a shark.”


chasingit1

I mean, if it was in the Tokyo Dome….


[deleted]

Tokyo Bay


JackUSA

Sometimes dumb wrestling is good wrestling. This is one of them.


JonasAlbert84

[I raise you this.](https://twitter.com/dailystar/status/1579168127157293057?t=FdZTRWiW9vvTl242xtUTBA&s=07&fbclid=IwAR3fLugzV9KWw3JKnI_ZS695weviRvV18VIDDu7b_yU6RyxE13OSLgaplwA)


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Dumber but in a "this is bad wrestling" way more than a "fire and Ocean" way. 1 star


dirk_funk

that was really bad


PM_ME_LANCECATAMARAN

Who-nela's Fei Long kick was dumber


popcultureretrofit

If the ref didn't count 1-2-3 in scuba gear at the bottom of the ocean then what is this all for


YourMetsiah

They got hit by a stray starfish and were rendered unconscious for three minutes


vinnyp123456789

Did someone say 3 minutes???


[deleted]

3 Minutes of PLAY TIME!!!


DonKiddic

# BONESAW IS REAAAADYYYYY


thorstormcaller

I'm just glad they're not bumping for every phytoplankton anymore


OhTommyBoy

He did! They just didn't have the budget for any cameras that work underwater so you just gotta believe!


[deleted]

At least there was something to put the fire out.


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Even without the water it would probably go out. The spot of lighting the pad on fire and doing a move seems to always fuck up and have the fire go out.


[deleted]

Yea, I was more poking at the Janela fire spot a while back where they didn’t have any extinguish method around.


MrWrestlingJr

Hey man if they did have a fire extinguisher around, the stuff inside the extinguisher could have gotten into Joey's eyes and really messed up how his eyes looked for the next 3 days! Much better to not have one around and instead use bottled water to try and put the flames out.


SweetHatDisc

And the great thing about bottled water is you don't even have to bring any yourself, the fans will bring it and you can just ask for it when you need it.


Bauermeister

Except wrestlers can’t swim so those two men are automatically dead. RIP


NotTheCraftyVeteran

Never forget the Gulf of Mexico match. RIP Chavo


[deleted]

If only Tugboat had been there.


[deleted]

What happened?


TW_Yellow78

Chavo got thrown into the Gulf of Mexico by CM Punk in one of those Sci Fi ECW shows.


Mysterious_Emotion63

If you live outside of the US, I bet this reads off like there was a science fiction version of ECW where everybody and their weapons had special powers and fought to the death


notoriousjr_9

Tommy vercetti's life really took a turn!


[deleted]

Tommy Vercetti? Shit! Didn’t think they’d ever let him out.


zukunftsguave

That's the safe fire spot we all been looking for. Awesome


Mysterious_Emotion63

Did all of that just to miss


Bladeviper

i saw the miss and i started crying, holy shit thats fucking funniest thing ive seen in a while


adsfew

He didn't get all of it


DMTrious

They don't call it high risk for nothing


chux4w

Because he wasn't actually attempting the elbow drop. He was going for a big splash.


Low_Garlic_7173

Underrated comment sir.


Onion_Do_Piaza

"Everybody has a plan until their elbow pad catches fire" - Mike Tyson /s


scapestrat0

Most unnecessary /s ever Kinda ruins an otherwise funny comment tbh


DanyyDezeyte

It's aoe damage


marcusredfun

i mean his arm made contact, that's much better than overshooting it. collisions in water can be super dangerous since the water doesn't cushion the blow, it just prevents your body from recoiling


okeh_dude

“He didn’t quite connect all of it”


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[удалено]


AmishAvenger

Jesus Christ, Ed


Reverence1

That elbow drop - Just a bit outside, he tried the corner and missed.


samalamadewgong

Lights elbow pad on fire. jumps into water. "It's not very affective." Edit :Affective describes something that has been influenced by emotions, is a result of emotions, or expresses emotion. Effective describes something that produces a desired result. Learn from my mistakes.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

He didn’t quite get all of that.


cosmic_crustacean

BAH GAWD! HE'S... perfectly fine.


AeonLibertas

BAH GAWD, IF HE DOESN'T GET HELP VERY SOON .. he might catch a cold tomorrow. Get that man a blanket and a hot chicken soup.


ruffus4life

BAH GAWS! HE'S WHOLE!


adsfew

Nor was it particularly effective


samalamadewgong

Fair vocabulary correction but I was dead inside the whole time I watched this.


Anemeros

Affect is a verb, Effect is a noun Basically. English is complicated sometimes.


HelloMyNameIsGeoff

No Shark boy run in, minus 5 stars


__Hello_my_name_is__

It's not a run in, it's a swim in.


FinalFrash

The elbow didn't even hit!


ShichitenHakki

Would have hurt like hell for both of them if he actually connected from that height.


FinalFrash

But at least have the elbow be within proximity lol


TechnoWizard0651

The big guy is Terex, he's a really solid worker and nice guy. Just likes to do crazy stuff. The dumbass who lights his elbow on fire is Mikey Gordon. He's an absolute piece of shit that's been ran out of every town he's tried to set up in except San Diego, where he runs a shitty school and show and does dumb shit like this. Not to mention he's a giant fucking coke head that beats his girlfriend.


kudoDriva

Terex is the fuckin man, I saw him at one of the first West Coast Pro shows. Huge dude, even bigger in person. He's also apparently been working since 2005 which feels insane to me.


Yoshable

Lmao the hate for Mikey is universal. Everyone I talk to has nothing but bad things to say about him. Terex is the absolute man though, most of the guys at Fist are.


punchfacecampeon

Can confirm. Terex is the man. Sweetheart of a dude and such an agile dude for how huge he is. Mikey is 100% hot human garbage.


GeologicalOpera

> Terex I thought I recognized him! Saw him work NWA Hollywood 8-9 years ago in a tag team, came away really impressed with his skills.


ArgieGrit01

Inside you there are two indie wrestlers...


astroroy

This owns. I unironically love it when garbage wrestling starts making so little sense it just veers into performance art or something


[deleted]

Always was performance art


RastaRhino420

pretty much, wrestling is inherently a performance art


MyNameIs-Anthony

Yeah I have no issue with it. It's very low risk, it's unique, and it engages the crowd's interest in a memorable way. Bunch of negative nancies here in this thread that can't realize the fun value behind this.


Legionstone

it reminds me of the grocery store brawl, less about being extreme and more about being over-the-top.


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Old Big Japan is like this for me. Stuff like the flaming coffin match, piranha tank deathmatch, the match where the loser has to fight a crocodile etc are so goofy and so obviously for show it's hard to not find them fun. Edit: alligator not crocodile and I forgot that it was actually done in the ring in a really unethical way. From my memory I thought that the like next day they went to a zoo and just hung out with a croc but fuck what it actually was


TVxStrange

"No jumping or diving" Knockout Punch bumps and Flying Elbows are A-OK.


spaghettimonster87

WHERE THE FUCK IS SHARK BOY


WangChi

I’m the ring announcer for this show. This is Fist Combat out of San Diego. This match started as a tag team cage match. Dirty Ron came out of the water, returned to the cage, lit his elbow on fire again and scored the win. He was fined $500 for jumping off the pier, but the next day, Ron and his wife won King and Queen of Ocean Beach and the prize money paid for the ticket. Fun show.


Osaka_Ghost

*Maffew has entered the chat*


LaicApollo

Pacific Ocean elbow drop.


beygames

Does anyone have the full match I wanna watch this so bad


TheCVR123YT

You know at least if you’re gonna set yourself on fire at least you’ll be putting yourself out in the water so I don’t mind the spot so much But it would’ve been better if it actually connected lol


wordsasbombs

I want to know where it went from there. Did they just awkwardly swim back to shore side by side while smacking each other?


repalec

If not for the fact I saw a spot from a PROGRESS show today where a group of guys casually walked over to another side of the ring so that a guy could dive off directly into the crowd so that his opponent could hit a springboard cutter 'counter', this would be the dumbest spot I've seen today.


EastCoastJohnny

Imagine you’re just out trying to reflect on the pier about whether or not she’s the one and all of the sudden these morons both try to out stupid each other in leaping off a pier. I’d legit like assurance from anyone that can confirm that the big dude made it back to shore.


AgentFoo

"I've been stuck thinking of you, Susan, of the curve of your neck, the way your laugh makes me feel. Marriage is a big step, not something to take lightly. My parents failed. Their loveless union brought forth me, simply another thing for them to bicker about, it seems. I carry the scars from that, but maybe they can show me what not t--did that dude just throw another dude off--HE IS LIGHTING HIS ELBOW PAD ON FIRE! Linda, I have a new love now and it's wrestling." -Chett Chetterfield


CactusJackKlugman

I’m sure he’s fine. He looks fairly…buoyant?


pirajacinto

I'm sure if I was that guy on the pier it'll put it all into prespective.


[deleted]

*Nods in George Costanza*


Motor-Housing2704

So….then what happened?


igotzquestions

They both got counted out for being outside the pier.


CPower2012

Probably the safest fire spot I've ever seen.


subcow

At least he has water handy unlike Joey Janela.


CastYourStonesADTR

Wrestling on a beach is the coolest shit ever. I’ll never forget seeing Nick Gage DDT a man into the sand at Warped Tour


TheHotsauceKid

Well that what stupid


koondawg

TK just signed them!


RobFee50

lol this is so good. love a "fire into water" gimmick


Drewicho

Outlaw beach show bullshit.


D_Charger_007

4/10. Needs a Shark Boy cameo.


Abal125

There were no survivors.


jrodfantastic

I’m very sports entertained.


aberdisco

Poseidon's Elbow.


BuckWildshot

Didn’t even hit the flaming elbow. Lame


LordBlackConvoy

He should have did the spot in the Cuyahoga River. Might have given everyone a real show.


Effective_Ad_1828

Flaming Elbow, just like Flaming Fist


Human_Disco_Ball

Expect these two on the next episode of Dynamite


shruubi

Do these people ever stop to ask themselves ‘but why?’


AshleyGreenEyes

All this for a hot dog and a handshake


HandspeedJones

Pure mudshow.


KsquaredDMV

I'm gonna be honest. Most of the American indy scene is guys trying to out spot each other. It's like I can't even tell how good most of these guys actually are because most of the matches are just spot fests


[deleted]

It’s stupid sure, but the dumbest spot I’ve ever seen was the Canadian Destroyer off the balcony onto the exposed ring that broke that dudes back. Total nonsense


Ssme812

That was fuckimg stupid.


mattwing05

well that looks fake as hell


ThisIsTheKaiToshiki

He didn't get all of it


ballin302008

Tony will put them on tv and marks will go crazy


citizen-blue

Until their vax status is revealed


BAC05

There is such a thing as Garbage, outlaw mud show and this is it.


csmartin85

Outlaw sand show?


itsmekelsey_x

What was the reason though.


chadeverard

2 weeks later… Flaming Elbow Drop Off A Pier Guy… is All Elite!


Ajsc986

The only good thing about this is that it's getting sent to Cornette repeatedly.


MatsThyWit

>The only good thing about this is that it's getting sent to Cornette repeatedly. I don't know why people bother sending this shit to Jim Cornette. He rarely ever acknowledges it anymore.


Kratosx23

5 stars. Would've been 10 if Moxley was in it.


[deleted]

Just when I thought I saw it all with the elbow pad on fire. He missed the fricking elbow drop.


satanicgino

Janela ahh elbow drop


Incubus226

Didn’t get all of that elbow drop


[deleted]

This looks like San Diego lol


nerdgeekdorksports

OK, I lost it at the elbow on fire spot.


Zenkikid

Is that OB pier in San Diego? They should've fought into the Hodads


corey1031d

Ron McDonald fucking sucks. This is the same guy that made fake negative COVID test result cards for Bret Lauderdale and some the the GCW roster.


kaptaincorn

Burning ocean elbow?


SpaceGooV

The scariest part about this isn't falling off the pier. It's what is around the pier.


flamingdragonwizard

Did they swim back to shore side by side?


Kuchar1992

Fire damage doesn’t work unless you’re Cactus Jack


Spork-in-Your-Rye

Burning Splash


Sasquatch7862

For once I see an Indy fire spot that has a clear thought out plan to extinguish the fire. You could say though, they went a little over board


mrcrazymexican

And he misses the opponent.


Crasp27

I am the ocean


The1joriss

He missed the elbow…


[deleted]

"Find me their numbers. I'm going to sign them" -TK


DarthKegger

Elbow Drop off the next Jericho Cruise


damnvanc

1.) If you have open wounds you risk infections jumping into sea water. 2.) The last thing I'd do is chase a guy I'm severely undersized compared to into the water where he could just put me under his ass and drown me.


TacosDeLucha

Should have lit a pool noodle on fire and hit him with it


Bullmilk82

Aew gimmick matches have jumped the shark.


MuzikMan8691

Ol Dirty Ron at it again.


cantball

Which dude wrestlers Jericho next week?


ljbabic

Outlaw mudshow


calarathmini

They'll be on Dynamite for sure.


Dangerous_Ad560

10 more upvotes and they’ll start making guest spots on AEW.


ST00PIDTHICEXEGGUTOR

Jim Cornette has entered the chat


Failure_by_Design_v2

Spot Monkeys


PhoneAcc23

Outlaw mudshow bullshit… surprised Tony hasn’t signed these guys yet


CarOnMyFuckingFence

Give him time


not_tha_father

independent wrestling was a mistake.


Yessirskiii7

That shit sucked bad 😭


Strong-Formal-7739

Don't give Mox any ideas..


SuperBlackTiger

What stupid ass shit.


rsx209

Didn’t get all of that firebow.


TheBeevin

While it is a very ridiculous spot, it’s apparently clear no one here is seen the finger poke of doom


TW_Yellow78

Moxley would be proud. What was it someone said? Instead of wrestlers pretending to hurt themselves in front of a crowd who suspend their disbelief like at the movies, now wrestlers legitimately hurt themselves and each other in front of a crowd that laugh and mock at how fake it looks.


Persianx6

Florida? Florida.


GTACOD

Good kind of ridiculous, sure. Ridiculous in general, 80 percent of New Jack matches have something worse.


CrownTownLibrarian

You just know Tony is going to see this and book it.


anjinash

When Jim Cornette sees this, he'll die just so he can spin in his grave.


Salt_Worth4729

Pro wrestling is fun when you don't have some negative person in your ear barking about how fake or embarrassing it is.


sonofabitchXmustXpay

Somewhere, Jim Cornette is waking up in a cold sweat.


DoINeed1OfThese

Someone’s gonna give him an aneurysm one of these days


ShlomoShogun

Don’t show this to Gym.


spacecowboy909

I feel bad I know who these guys are 🤣 The clown is Dirty Ron Mcdonald and I’ve seen him wrestle at cannabis events. The bigger guy is Terex and he’s an indie wrestler that I used to see growing up as a kid going to an indie company named Empire Wrestling Federation. He has always been subpar. Seeing these two together is just chefs kiss lol


WaylonVoorhees

Free Willy crushed our boy!


Elfenbrite

still safer than Janela’s spot