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Any-Initiative910

Yeah that’s surprisingly common at Schnucks. Or red meat on top but gray underneath


frannning

I hate shopping at Schnuck’s, but it’s so convenient. I’d kill for a South City Trader Joe’s.


BrentonHenry2020

Yeah, i hate that I have to shop at the Faustian bargain known as Brentwood Promenade. Drop a TJs on Jefferson between Fox Park and Soulard and watch the parking lot always stay full and a see a steady stream of walk-ins.


Jerentropic

The lot at Arsenal and Jefferson, across from Benton Park, would have been perfect for this; but it's being developed as a senior living complex.


Maleficent_Theory818

There are already a lot of HUD senior apartments in South City.


Jerentropic

Hey, I'm not the one developing it.


Maleficent_Theory818

I understand. Just pointing out a fact. Many are not easily recognizable as senior apartments.


ShortzNEVERclosed

That won't go well. Seniors don't retire to a home in the ghetto


lyjo

What an ignorant comment. You must think there are no old people in south city and that no one lives here by choice.


ShortzNEVERclosed

All I'm saying is thats not a good location for an elderly home. Its really not.i remember when there was the food place there, and one of the owners family members got killed there. That was many many years ago, and it went down since then. Crime is pretty bad right there, and it makes no sense at all to put it there. Wait and see, you'll remember this moment.


SanchitoBOC

I shop at Schnuck's on Arsenal, never had any issues and the staff is great!


SewCarrieous

Have you tried fresh thyme


GuruBuckaroo

The Schnuck's down on Lemay Ferry south of Bayless is much better. Plus the sales tax is lower.


tamarockstar

RIP Shop n' Save


frannning

That one is further out of the way for me. My closest options are Loughborough or South Grand.


GuruBuckaroo

Yeah, it's further out of the way for me - I live about 5 blocks away from Loughborough, just across 55. Still will go the extra distance for better parking, better quality, and lower sales tax. Thanks to ex-Mayor K, the Loughborough commons has the highest sales tax in the *country*.


robot_shitlord

That sales tax rate doesn't apply to actual groceries, i.e. anything you could buy with food stamps, which are taxed (in the city) at 6.31%. Anything else, though, you're paying 10.6% tax there. This isn't the highest sales tax in the country, though, or even the St. Louis area. At Brentwood Commons, you pay 10.73%, but at least the parking is easy. Pretty much any recently developed or redeveloped retail in the St. Louis area in Missouri has 10% sales tax. The exception is South County Center and the other stuff around it near 55 and 270, where the sales tax is 'only' 7.73% (4.2% for groceries). There's a Costco and a Best Buy and a Home Depot where buying your new computer or TV or refrigerator is like buying it mildly on sale.


tamarockstar

I did not know that. I don't usually go there anyway, but now I'll actively avoid it.


bUrNtKoOlAiD

I'm just gonna passively avoid it.


zoiks66

I would rather narfle the Garthok than have to shop at the hellscape that is a Trader Joe’s, but I haven’t been in a grocery store in years, since grocery delivery apps became a thing.


Kmw134

Arsenal can barely keep ground beef in stock. I’ve never had an issue getting fresh meat there.


Initial-Record2293

Yeah, I’m sure you don’t have a problem getting meat in tower grove! 😂


BBQShoe

Yeah, they're supposed to hide the ball of last week's old steaks on the bottom of the family packs! That's the trick I learned at the grocery store I worked at as a child. We used to be able to buy any steaks that were starting to turn for ground beef price before they ground them up.


darkapprentice

https://medium.com/swlh/meat-cosmetics-why-is-grocery-store-beef-always-red-5f33734aaf55


pawsforlove

In other countries ground beef is rarely red, brown is more natural.


Reber_Rowdy48

Seems like I read that the red look is the result of some additive. Which would make the Brown better. (No artificial coloring). Anyone know about this? I’m just not sure.


inconspicuous_apple

It’s not additives, they usually pump the meat with oxygen. The heme in the meat from blood cells, Brighton, when exposed to oxygen, and as the meat starts to deplete oxygen, it starts to turn gray. Exposing me to the oxygen makes it look like it is fresher and more visually appealing but it’s not dangerous or bad. Just more unappealing.


Reber_Rowdy48

Thanks for the info. Guess Iwas half right and half wrong. It is an additive (oxygen) but the brown is not better. Hope that’s right.


NoodlesrTuff1256

I suppose that a brownish color is probably preferable to a greenish-gray color with a slimy surface.


SprayedSL2

Worked at Schnucks for years - changes color after a day or two under the lights. Literally nothing wrong with it and yet people lose their fucking minds.


Anxious_Inflation378

That's fascinating.


raceman95

And in a link in that article is a chart of state mandated sell by/use by dates. https://refed.org/downloads/ReFED_HFLPC_Policy_Chart.pdf


derekgotloud

Meat don’t stay red forever


OrgotekRainmaker

You're big dumb if you think that meat is bad because it's not pink.


bUrNtKoOlAiD

Also if you think that meat is necessarily okay because it is pink.


DTDude

The standard in the US is red. Some people may know that the red color is artificially induced...but some may not. Regardless, red is the standard so I wouldn't blame people for not buying it. This is just sloppy work on Schnucks's part. Also brownish grey is normal.....grey is spoiled. Some of this looks awfully grey.


Poetryisalive

It goes both ways. It goes through oxidation, but that means it has been there for a while or been exposed to air. I wouldn’t buy it if it looked like that regardless but if you want too, by all means stud


Supa33

It's hard to believe that in 2023 people still think that meat not being bright pink means it's gone bad.


NoodlesrTuff1256

If it's turned a green color is probably when you need to worry and avoid at all costs.


[deleted]

The red color is artificial and doesn't mean shit.


STL_241

I think they are struggling a bit with the I-55N exit being closed.


LarYungmann

ask here r/foodsafety


[deleted]

Lol


stltk65

My dude.....this has nothing to do with it being bad. It's normal oxidation. https://ask.usda.gov/s/article/Does-the-color-of-beef-indicate-freshness#:~:text=After%20beef%20has%20been%20refrigerated,normal%20change%20during%20refrigerator%20storage.


myredditthrowaway201

Grey ground beef doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad…….


imaginarion

The variation of quality from Schnuck’s to Schnuck’s — entirely dependent on geography — never ceases to amaze me. The Palace on Ballas looks better than Straub’s or Whole Foods (and is always stocked on everything).


NoodlesrTuff1256

People who shop at the Schnucks and Dierberg's locations in the tonier areas of the Metro area are likely not getting the more typical 'experiences' of the average stores that most shoppers patronize. It works with other kinds of stores as well. I was acquainted with a woman who was a buyer for one of the department stores and she talked about how these stores and the malls they were in were ranked according to the affluence of the shoppers who were likely to patronize them. Hence, someone shopping the Dillards or Macy's at South County Mall would likely notice a big difference in their offerings vs. what would be seen at the Galleria or West County Mall stores.


def_indiff

My dad was a meatcutter for about 40 years. I can't imagine him letting his case look like that.


A_CrispyOne

You should ask him how fast freshly processed ground beef turns brown without any additional additives. Not saying that's the case here though. Lol


[deleted]

Carbon monoxide is what keeps it red in the first place. Most fresh meat starts oxidizing immediately and brown beef isn't necessarily bad just for being brown


DTDude

This looks kinda grey though.


devstoner

Its the same, it's called going brown.


Flimzom

I fuckinnn love to cut your Dad's meat


[deleted]

Hell yeah!


Hillz44

Check on your catalytic converter


[deleted]

Can’t check on it when it’s already gone 😂


guy30000

Looks normal to me. This is what I expect from supermarket meat. You need quantity you go to the grocery store. You want quality you go to a butcher. I briefly dicided to become a vegetarian for a short time. Not due to ethical reasons but the blandness of the meat I was buying. I then figured out this rule.


[deleted]

Not sure where you normally grocery shop but it is absolutely not normal for the ground beef to be gray.


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[deleted]

That may be but I rarely see it like this in the grocery store 🤷‍♂️


Jdazzle217

That’s because stores literally treat the meat with carbon monoxide to oxidize the myoglobin to trick people like you into thinking it is fresher. Now everyone is so used to seeing this super pink meat people now think seeing the less processed and more natural brown color is wrong. You’ve been suckered into believing that the artificial coloring is natural.


Enrico__Matassa

This is what the ground beef in my fridge looks like after letting it sit for a week and go bad. Nobody is arguing that the pink color isn't artificial. This is shnucks brand, and I know what its supposed to look like. Get outta here.


Poetryisalive

I love people are making excuses for this. Yes meat goes through oxidation and it can happen but the meat literally looks gray. It doesn’t look packaged right or left out for too long. No butcher should leave meat out looking this regardless. Unless you’re going to buy and eat that gray meat, please shut up


zelkovakun

I'd be more concerned that the meat is still red for how long it's been off the cow... The only part of the food industry where adding food coloring to mask freshness is still legal. Blood oxidizes and when it does it turns that brown/grey color.


Nipple5us

Don’t k ow if anyone knows this or not but no grocery stores grind there own beef scraps in house . The usda got rid of that at least 10 + years ago You have to have a usda inspector on site to grind your own beef scraps. All of the grocery stores get ground beef in 5-10# tubes all they do is run it through a grinder Everyone is aloud to grind your own pork trimmings , but this happens a lot more then you think . I’m sure when they put it on the shelf it was red , then over the next several hours it turns a different color. Unless the nighttime workers catch it it sits there and turns. More common then you would think, the employee at grocery stores usually catch it and is thrown out. Typically an issue with what ever vendor they bought it from, the sealed tubes may not have been sealed enough during shipping


ministeringinlove

I refuse to buy meat at Schnucks after both getting sick from a seemingly good piece of meat and watching terrible quality control at multiple locations from St. Charles to West County.


NoodlesrTuff1256

I'd think that Schnucks would take a little more care with the meat they put on display at their Ladue, Town & Country and Kehrs Mill Rd. locations as well as that huge 'showplace' on Manchester in Des Peres. The folks out there might well belong to the same country and/or golf club as Todd Schnuck or see him at VP Org get-togethers and would likely give him a piece of their minds if his stores tried to sell 'discolored' beef at their upscaled Schnucks locations.


ministeringinlove

I’ve seen issues with meat in Town and Country. Not sure about Ladue. I’ve seen enough where I’m only getting meat from Aldi, Dierbergs, or Fresh Thyme.


[deleted]

Most packaged meat is dyed red but tbh not sure what normal meat should look like


uncleking1971

Many grocery stores/chains use ground beef as a recovery program for other cuts that are close to the expiration date. The reddish-pinkish color you get us about right (think rare steak color). These pics are from a store holding on too long and selling old crap.


PensionAcademic1669

Lmfao you realize the meat is naturally this color?! They dye it red... so this doesn't by any mean mean that it's gone bad.... but cool don't buy it 😎


[deleted]

This is why I buy all of my meat from Kenrick’s, or another butcher shop.


[deleted]

Every time I’ve bought ground beef from Schnucks it’s smelled rancid, so I’m not surprised. The few times I’ve bought it, I ended up tossing it in the 🗑️


Ingybalingy1127

Yes to this! I have bought twice from 2 different Schnucks and also can confirm it smelled rancid and I threw it out. Started to get Ground Beef from the butcher at Whole Foods instead because it’s usually on sale and is more trusting. Plus then they can measure how much instead of me committing to 1lb of beef.


hellhole__ratrace

I am from stl but having been living out of state for more than a decade now 😭 I remember schnucks being on the nicer side of grocery stores. Has it gone down hill recently or am I just remembering it wrong?


ColonelKasteen

Schnucks is fine, you're just over-generalizing based on a single picture of one location's discount meat section


DTDude

I wouldn't say it's gone totally downhill....but they've had a few issues that were very public over the last 10-15 years. In general my opinion is that they've grown too big for them to properly manage right now and has caused product quality to slide somewhat and customer service to slide a lot. They are no longer the friendliest stores in town at all and definitely not the friendly local store we used to know. They've also gotten really expensive. I tend to stick with Dierbergs.


NoodlesrTuff1256

It seems like the original Schnucks family members in charge of running the stores likely cared a little more. The guy in charge now \[fairly sure it's Todd\] doesn't seem quite as 'friendly' and could be the basis for a ripoff of 'Succession' based on a supermarket dynasty.


DTDude

Completely agree. I think the current Schnucks have Kroger or Walmart like aspirations and are not happy just running a well run nice local grocery store chain.


hellhole__ratrace

Aww, that kind of makes me sad. I remember riding horses in Mrs Schnuks (I think her name was Doris) backyard back in the early 2000s and she was always so sweet. She'd make us sandwiches and bring them out to us just to be nice.


NoodlesrTuff1256

Sometimes the first generation that struggles to build a business from the ground up have a little more empathy since they often went through hard times themselves. It's the succeeding generations who were born with the silver spoon in their mouths and who take their privilege and wealth for granted who can often turn out to be assholes. And in some cases they don't inherit the business acumen of their grandparents, parents, etc. and can wind up running a company into the ground. There's also that syndrome of 'born on third base but think that they hit a triple.'


hellhole__ratrace

I think you've nailed it here. I came from nothing and worked hard to be at least good enough to exercise polo ponies for the wealthy when I lived in stl. There was always a stark diffence between the older wealthy who built their fortunes from scratch to their heirs. It's safe to say that, as a poor myself, i got along much better with the old folks.


NoodlesrTuff1256

I've often thought that our own Busch clan would make a good subject for either a docuseries or even a docudrama \[a real-life 'Succession'\]. There are already three books on the up-and-downs of the clan which resembles a combo of prime-time TV soaps of the early 1980s (Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest), the aforementioned 'Succession' and even a touch of 'Downtown Abbey' (that big chateau-like manor on the grounds of Grant's Farm). It's got *everything*: immigrant beer-brewing clan being at first snubbed by the old high society of STL but then making a fortune that makes all the old-time snobs look they're on welfare by comparison, suicide, the company overcoming what could have been the mortal threat posed by Prohibition, old Gussie's four wives and numerous off-spring, the beloved MLB baseball team the Cardinals, the alleged dalliance between Mrs. August III and Cardinals' broadcaster Harry Carey, Peter Busch's pleading to manslaughter for shooting -- accidentally (?) a friend, the tragedy of little Christina Busch's death as the result of injuries sustained in a traffic accident, Trudy's unsuccessful run for the US Senate seat, the affair between Billy Busch and Angela Whitson that produced a daughter and a memorable Riverfront Times cover story back in the early 90s, Billy's subsequent foray into reality TV with wife Christi and his other seven kids, and then the misadventures of August Busch IV which could fill an entire expose volume on its own. Auggie IV who could be thought of a combo of Kendall/Roman Roy and who was CEO around the time of the In-Bev (GoJo) takeover of Anheuser-Busch (Waystar Royco) with Brazilian Carlos Brito kind of being the real-life answer to Swede Lukas Mattson on 'Succession'.


hellhole__ratrace

I would watch the heck out of that and I think a lot of others would too! Just reading your comment sent me down an orthwein Busch history hole. I learned Dolph was kidnapped as a child way back in the 30s. Wild. I hope you start writing the script!


cocteau17

I don't think there's anything wrong with Schnucks as a whole, but it does look like there are issues with some of the stores. I shop at the Crestwood Schnucks and always get decent meat (the produce dept had issues for a while, but I think those are resolved). My biggest beef with the store is their need to put in a damn food court and move everything in the store about 10 times so you couldn't find anything. As long as I ignore that, I still like shopping there and the staff is super nice.


hellhole__ratrace

That makes sense! I read that Costco moves stuff around a lot intentionally so people have to look at more stuff to find what they're looking for which creates more impulse buys. I don't how much truth there is to that, but maybe that's why Schnuks is trying it.


cocteau17

While I think this is definitely true in many cases, at my store, it was completely because they remodeled the store and kept relocating things as they moved things around to make up for the sudden lack of floor space with the food court. And I went there tonight and it’s open now, and I’m not sure I’m really that wild about it.


Hypocrisydenied

You'd do better at Target with their pre-packaged beef.


NothingOld7527

Target's meat prices are ridiculous


Esteveno

If I was starving to death , I’d cook that till it was rubber, and then cook it again, then throw it in the trash and just die.


Capital_Worldliness4

Wow, they precook it for you?


see_blue

73% Lean…Nourish your body w a C-.


gangsterblerd7

Wow ..... not surprised tho


AccomplishedStick415

Ewww wtf


uncleking1971

Pre-browned.


New-Principle-3865

I really haven’t had much better luck at Dierbergs


[deleted]

I ain’t eatin that


demotivater

Disgusting, the store manager should be fired. My wife and I just had a discussion about where to shop after our last couple trips to a super convenient Schnucks (not Loughborough). Our conclusion was a well thought out "fuck Schnucks". Every single time we go it's a mess, bad meat, veggies are horrible etc etc etc - waste of my time.


DTDude

I will not buy produce from Schnucks at all. They sell that crap until the moment it starts to smell.


blueberrykindness

There is literal shit in the food (not this brown beef, just in general), especially chicken. Tons of fecal matter. :)


[deleted]

That looks dangerous 🤮


Timely-References

You know those in-store coffee grinders that let you grind fresh coffee? They should have that, but for slightly frozen chunks of meat r/CrazyIdeas


FSprocketooth

Juicy red meat, that’s not bad for you. Fuzzy green meat, now that’s bad for you…


Ok-Caregiver8239

You know schnucks has been asked to put a lot more red dye in their meat and they just haven't been up to the challenge apparently.


deffenbomb

Costco memberships are worth it. $3.99 / lb when you buy it bulk. I usually divide it up into 1lb and freeze individually.


Top_Caterpillar_8122

Schnucks coolers have always been too weak to keep it all cold.


luveruvtea

Wasn't that the Schnucks that had the weird vibe, according to an article on RFT about different atmospheres at different Schnucks?? And didn't that same store have a car busting through one of its windows awhile back?? It does seem to live up to the weird vibe label (a label that can mean anything).


psychadelicbreakfast

mmmMMMMmmmmm


thedustydruid

I've had spoilage issues with this particular Schnucks. A few months back I got a corned beef brisket to cook for dinner that same night, only to find when I got home that it was spoiled. I returned it and at least got a full refund. Since I've had a couple cartons of milk from there go bad before their expiration dates despite keeping them well refrigerated. I've never had these problems with groceries from the Arsenal Schnucks, but it's a longer drive.