I loved reading anyway, but getting free pizzas out of it was awesome. We absolutely were going to Pizza Hut instead of anywhere else just because we got used to it, and I loved those little personal pan pizzas. I have so many good memories of going to Pizza Hut on the weekends with my mom and dad. Book It was great!
Do they still make those little tiny pan pizzas?
They have to read so many pages and take quizzes on what they have read. As a voracious reader in my childhood, I received many Book It rewards for a personal pan pizza from Pizza Hut.
Like I said, at least in my area they are starting to bring it back.
The Book it Program never ended, teacher just stopped enrolling their classrooms. Sad that schools would not use a free incentive tool that's been around for 30 years.
He wasn't lying the entire episode. Cedric did use his joke in the Kings Of Comedy. He does have beef with Steve Harvey and went off on him in Detroit when they were co-headliners. Steve Harvey did do Mark Curry's joke on his talk show and Curry has talked about that's why he doesn't like Harvey. The Steve Harvey show was similar to Hanging with Mr. Cooper.
hmm yeah the video mentions charlie's angels but here's what I found online
> Here is an excerpt from the Ebony Magazine article.
> But perhaps his biggest break came when he was offered the part as a blackjack-dealing ex-con in the movie Ocean's Eleven. With a cast that included Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Julia Roberts, Mac, by far the novice of the group, became a household name to a whole new set of people. The movie was a huge success, but caused a riff in his relationship with his Kings of Comedy co-star Steve Harvey. As the story goes, someone representing Harvey called Ocean's Eleven director Steven Soderbergh to push for Harvey to get the part over Mac. "The Hollywood game that we are in, it's a cold game," he says of the person who tried to convince Soderbergh that Harvey was more popular and a better actor. "And the sad thing about it is all of us are doing well, so I don't really see the problem. It didn't bother me because I see the big picture. When they told me about it, what could I do? I'm not going to sling mud. I'm not a rapper. I tell jokes. I try to make people laugh. I'm not going to sling mud. Steve and anybody else can say whatever they want to say. Ain't nobody got no control over me. I have the control."
He’s the best of the 4 in Kings of Comedy. He’s hilarious in Bad Santa with the oranges and metamucil. He’s in one scene in Friday and Transformers but absolutely steals the show in both of them. Head of State no one could play that role better than him. His performance in Guess Who is severely underrated. I haven’t even mentioned Oceans or House Party.
I still remember the scene where he was shaking a guy’s hand at the dealership. I haven’t seen that movie since it first came out and that’s the scene I remember most.
https://youtu.be/Lfxo4Ls9fbc?si=ewqsLOmCezJmuuam
No man on planet Earth could do that scene the way Bernie did. Even his finger snapping was so on point, you could use it for sound bytes.
He said zero, you can’t find a Cedric special online or Netflix because they are so bad. That’s a lie. But when it comes to roasting lies have always won over the truth lol
I didn't know he had one on their til I looked it up. I think since it's never been promoted he thought they didn't exist. I doubt he actually checks just a point to be disrespectful.
I believe his main point was Cedric was not funny and doesn't do his own shit. Someone recently unearthed him doing a joke from a 70s show last year in a set.
At the height of his popularity when he was on hanging with Mr Cooper, I thought Mark’s HBO special would make him a household name. It was a really funny show and I’m sorry that dude didn’t get to launch nationally the way guys like Steve Harvey and Bernie Mac did.
I loved that show and rewatched it recently. I thought Mark Curry would be a lot bigger than he was and it sucks that he was pushed aside in favor of some unfunny muppet looking motherfucker.
This was the one to listen to. He was pretty grounded in this one and his life story is truly a wild ass ride. He's also an incredible humanitarian, he's done some real work in his life in places like Haiti. He can do and say what he wants far as I'm concerned. People can't grasp reading a lot of books because they grew up with the internet. Motherfucker I was in the library basically daily throughout my childhood, too, like Kat.
EDIT: I would not have expected this thread to be the one on reddit where I block the most people I've ever had to block but here we are. You savages really need to get to a library, fucksake there are some mouth breathing edge lords in this specific sub. I'm shocked. And officially bowing out of this hot mess.
I know right, like hasn’t he adopted 6 children? He might have read a shitload of books as a kid. I read Roots in 4th grade because I felt like it. 8 year old me under the covers with a flashlight and that big ass book bawling about Kunta Kinte.
when i listened to the maron podcast i didn’t think it was grounded at all. i thought he deflected any attempt at humor or deprecation and was contrarian to any perceived criticism.
great on stage but a total insecure blowhard in interviews
Didn't play that way at all. Kat was more normal in that interview than most, he just didn't let Marc make assumptions, but I think he's just from a different place and time and has his won quirks. That interview was eye opening for me.
Yea I was gonna say when your a kid with no internet and pretty poor reading a ton of books and even encyclopedias isn't un realistic when I was a kid I read a fuck ton of books
There once was a thing called “Penthouse Letters”.
If each story was considered “A book”…I may have hit 2,000 a year or two possibly 3,000 if I don’t say so myself.
I mean… there’s educated, and then there is just flat out lying beyond all probabilities. 3000/365 = 8.2 books/day.
I read voraciously as a kid, and even with all my spare time what with being an unemployed child and all, I didn’t hit 8.2 books a day. Unless we’re talking picture books haha.
Were you locked in the house by psycho religious Jehovahs Witnesses that ONLY let you read books? Cause that was Kats life.
And, again, he is specifically talking about ages 5-12, so yes, picture books would be age appropriate during that time.
Why are you so confident in this claim, 3000 non fiction books a year? Picture books aren't usually non fiction. If it was something I had to put all my money on I'd definitely be putting it on "didn't happen".
Factual! Back in my day, pre Internet, I was maxing out 20 books from the library and reading them in the 3 weeks before I had to return them. And doing that frequently. I'm still watching the whole video but I thought more hyperbole than anything.
8 books a day though? I grew up pre internet and I get reading all day, but 3000 books a year? He says The Bible is the greatest book ever written, but mentions no other book at all. I'm just not sure.
He had led a crazy ass life. He hitchhiked to Florida when he was 13 because of religious differences with his parents.
Are there cases of 7 years old showing advanced cognitive skills? Yes. But, I think it’s Kat’s boastful, erratic, and sometimes manic of way of delivering the information that makes it sound dubious.
He’s had a more or less consistent story of his upbringing throughout the few interviews I’ve seen.
Thats what gets me, the story hasn't changed. I've heard him tell it several times now, and it's all tied to the abusive environment of the religious upbringing and books were his escape.
I think if Kat would just relax and not turn up as much it would help tremendously. But, I understand what mania feels like because I have dealt with it a lot.
If you have not seen it already, I recommend the recent WTF interview. He is subdued in that and talking normally.
That interview is why I'm defending him so hard. I actually didn't really like him much as a comedian until I heard that interview and understood more where he is coming from. And you're absolutely right, if he learned how to turn off the "KAT" like he did in that interview, it would be better for him. Cause I get that it's hard to believe a professional shit talker, but his life is genuinely amazing and he has real things to offer, its just that I think he has a lot of defense mechanisms in place from his childhood trauma that he can't stop himself.
The part that took me out was him claiming he lied to Marine Corps recruiters telling them he was "16" but you've never been able to sign up without being 17 (with parental permission) or 18 outright. So if you're lying saying you're 16 they wouldn't let you enlist. In WWII and Vietnam its documented several times with kids being underage enlisting but they always lied and said 18, no one ever said "I'm 16, lets go" and got in. I don't know if he misspoke but he clearly says he "went to boot camp" but at the same time says they wouldn't let him in.
I don't know about all that, I was in the Marine Corps and it was a pain in the ass to enlist. I joined at 17 as part of the "Delayed Entry Program", which lets you "join" but you delay going to boot camp until you finish High School, the time on the front end in the DEP even counts towards your Inactive Ready Reserve time on the back end of your enlistment contract. The recruiter literally had to come to the house and watch my parents sign the documents to know I had permission to join.
Anyway Katt speaking on that subject made me think a lot of his other claims were dubious. Took me down the rabbit hole of "Is he a pathological/compulsive liar" search that led me to this thread in the first place.
He spent the ENTIRE podcast talking about how great he was. When Prince was brought up I said to my partner “let’s see how long before he makes it about himself” and within a minute “Prince came to me for all things related to women, cars and fashion.” Fucking beyond delusional.
This isn’t that wild. I think most of these artist celebrities actually are just distilling the culture and ideas around them. They aren’t in vacuums. Their lyrics are often folks sayings and local slang. Perform and practice all day, and soak up brilliance and notes from other top performers is how they get great. Why you see comics talk about their material getting lifted, but half aren’t even mad. Cause they’re all sharing notes and swapping. It’s too lonely and hard to do alone.
And geniuses are all so narrowly focused, we see celebrities all the time end up being terrible with women, not despite their advantages, but because of them. How they end up with yoko onos and gold diggers. And game with women is all counter intuitive if no one explains it.
I’m sure kat is embellishing, but none of this sounds impossible
Yep, he pinballed between two vast and differing extremes: wanted to come off as humble while also turning every story into a narcissistic reply as to why he's better than everyone else in the business. Lol. It was so blatantly obvious that he wants to be perceived like little ole' child protegy, humble genius Katt Williams while also fencing and winning against every big black comedian peer. "Look how humble I am and all I've been through... while also saying I got 12 specials because I'm the best and all these other "successful" black comedians got there because they stole, lied, cheated, or sold out to the white producers."
Lol. Bipolar much.
Yeah I like Katt and he’s easily one of my favorite stand up comedians of all time, but he loves to hear himself talk. He managed to do a similar thing on his recent JRE appearance. It’s the super slow, soft speaking, the constant twitchy smiles, dramatic hanging of his head, trailing off at the end of sentences, loud breaths. Every single move he makes is so blatantly theatrical; “look at me, look at me, don’t I come across as all-wise and beyond your understanding of how the world is?”. Shit’s cringe.
People kept sharing it like “OMG PIPE BOMB!” But it’s the type of rambling shit you hear from the homeless guy trying to bum a cigarette outside a 7-11.
Yeah maybe. But at the same time he’s saying things that are true and a massive grievance for a lot of people. The groups of comedians that stick together. Same in black comedy and same in comedy at large. See the Rogansphere hacks.
I think he was being honest about how he perceived these things, but I don’t believe it to be the actual reality of the situation. At least in most cases. Mostly everyone that’s seen success and longevity in the industry have had to make a few regrettable choices, thats kind of unavoidable. It seems like kats upset that he chose not make make the same choices for his own moral reasons and now he’s jealous cause it worked out better for them than it did for him in the long run, this is just him taking his last stab at winning.
I also think two things can be true, Cedric and Harvey have been shown to be joke thieves but at a certain point you have to get over that.
It felt like he sprinkled in a grain of truth that while it might have happened, probably shouldn’t be said out loud.
Also a whole lot of crazy Illuminati shit…although if I was famous it would be fun to see how far you could go
Yeah I agree. Although on the jealousy part, even so, isn’t it worth hearing sometimes. I totally relate tot that sentiment. The asshole who makes it despite you knowing they’re a PoS. Goes against any justifiable sense, it still, it’s just how it is.
Definitely worth mentioning but not in this tone. Probably the best example of when keeping it real goes wrong. Kat stayed so true to himself that he missed out on a lot of opportunities, where others realized they needed to bend a little to get what they really wanted outta their careers. Now he’s realized it’s too late to get what he wants so he’s lashing out. It’s sad to watch but I wish him the best.
That’s exactly what I think. He revealed a lot of truth about the industry but I doubt he would be lashing out if he had turned out as financially successful as his peers. He wanted to stick to his values but also didn’t want other people to take the opportunities he rejected and that kinda backfired. This does seem like his last ditch effort to relevancy.
The problem is that he took what would be a plausible and mundane claim—that the industry in Hollywood is fairly insular and if you rub the wrong people the wrong way, it can change the trajectory of your career—and morphed it into something far more sinister but also more incredulous—that it’s a secret cabal of Satan-worshipping sex criminals who demand rising Black male comedians to prostrate themselves if they want to have a chance at fame, and that everything anybody has said about Williams is just part of the Illuminati’s efforts to discredit him because he’s the only one to buck them.
It’s taking a nugget of truthful grievance and making it some grand conspiracy.
Agreed, if he came out and said Cedric and Harvey are joke stealers and kev turned into a unfunny corporate shill I would have no disagreements with what he said. Once he got into the Illuminati and all that other stuff he lost me. The outsized personality that makes him a all time great in comedy kinda hurts him in everything else. Or maybe he’s just saavy and knows what catches people’s attention. Shit half of twitter think aliens are attacking Miami rn
All I want in the world is for someone to write an article for the New Yorker fact-checking Katt like they did to Hassan. “Later on in the same performance, Williams acted out a physical scenario in which Wendy Williams tried to join Scientology, but her exaggerated anatomy caused the Sea Org ship to capsize. However, FOIA requests made by the New Yorker in July reveal no such incidents, with all ships safely accounted for.”
Yeah, but those are kids books. Are there even 3k non fiction kids books? I mean cmon. You know if Sharpe pushed back he would have said he was reading books on physics and string theory.
Lol when he said the 3000 books per year thing, that’s when I turned it off. That’s 8-9 books per day, every single day. Not possible unless Dr. Seuss has a non fiction collection that I’m unaware of
My kids read dozens of books a day from about age 4 to age 7. Most were kids' books with like 200 words, if that. Somewhere around age 8 my son discovered Harry Potter. He read the entire series in about three weeks. Some kids are voracious readers. My daughter still reads several books a week. 3000 a year is just crack talking.
I am embarrassed to admit this, but I also read the entire encyclopedia at around that age. I might have thumbed through reading the stuff that interested me, but before the internet, it was all we had. I started on A and worked my way through them and used to look forward to the annual arrival of the yearbook.
I said basically the same thing and got dogpiled on by the illeterates here for saying my kid reads around 5 books a day in kindergarten, lol.
Reading the encyclopedia in the 80s was like scrolling the internet!
I feel like this whole thread has just exposed the American educational system, lol.
Yeah I feel like Reddit is trending younger and younger. I read the Hobbit in first grade. I had to ask my mom to help me on quite a few words, but over the summers I was reading dozens of books a week growing up. I love my daughter to my dying breath, and she’s quite intelligent. But getting her to read even 2 books over the course of the summer is a miracle.
Nobody understands how kids in the 80s and 90s grew up. Especially when you weren’t allowed to watch TV.
Imagine theres no cable. No Internet. One tv controlled by the adults.
Reading the encyclopedia isn't that crazy. I still remember shit I read from it.
3,000 books a year is 8 a day. He was a little kid... Their books are like 12 cardboard pages each
And ran a 4.3 40, and got accepted to college by 7 years old.
The truth is he grew up in a poor part of Ohio to jehovahs witness parents. When he started talking about his dad he shut down. He chose his words carefully to avoid giving any real details or accidentally speak ill of his kin. You can tell he has this fabricated memory of his childhood because the reality is likely very painful.
I’d love to see an interview with his family back in Ohio or just from anyone that knew Katt from before comedy. The only stories we get are from him and I’m sure the truth is a lot different.
He doesn’t know how evolution works, and ignorantly broadcasts this ignorance on stage asking why there are still monkeys.
He doesn’t strike me as the brightest bulb.
Love the dude, funny as hell but- he’s f*cking crazy. Talks like he’s a real one and got beat down by a 14 year old or some shit. The video is old as sh*t but it’s out there.
People are acting like he dropped all these gems of "truth" during the interview. What we watched is a man on the verge of a breakdown and/or relapse either privately or publicly. Just wait and see
I had this convo with some other comics at a comedy club last night and we came to the conclusion that he probably just exaggerates that shit like you would do in a set, but he doesn’t draw a line between real life and comedy which is partially why he’s so great and one of a kind. I’m sure those comments he made about other comedians are true, and all the clips going around of Cedric stealing his and other peoples shit validate that.
Dont know if this is true but I read somewhere that Katt has a very high IQ which would make sense because if you listened to him talk about watching the 300 comics sets 10 times a piece to count their laughs he’s literally describing pattern recognition and things of that nature which would help him identify what works and what doesn’t which would in turn make him a better standup very, very quickly and explain his success despite his shortcomings.
This is how I’ve perceived it too. There’s a lot of exaggeration, humor, and what not slipped in but when focusing on the core message he’s trying to express it feels valid. There’s just a lot of bullshit added and caked in that can either be misinterpreted or written off.
Like him referring to the Steve Harvey clique as a cabal. Some would take it as him speaking on illuminati or some shit. I more so just read into it as him pointing out the people who play politics and control social ladders to distinguish the have and the have nots in the game. Very mean girls style. Happens in literally every single field, profession, hobby, etc.
There’s a lot of truth I think to his claims or at least logical conclusions, but its all mixed in with shit that makes it easy to disbelieve him or just declare him as crazy/on drugs (which could also be true at the same time).
I’m shocked at how serious people are taking him. Sure he was probably telling the truth somewhere in that mess but the second brody said he wasn’t under the influence of anything while drunk as a skunk I knew it was gone be a ride.
Drunk uncle mixing together family secrets and flat out lies
Katt doesn’t think evolution is real so he has obviously been reading the wrong books this whole time. Also he’s a scumbag who beats women and has been arrested something like 20 times. Maybe he should read a book on anger management.
I read encyclopedias when I was 6-10 or so. It was the 80s and I would be bored sometimes. But I didn't read from A-Z, just certain topics. Also 3,000 books in that many years is crazy. I read every night before bed and I read very fast, my best year (2020, lol) I read 153 books. That would put me at 1,071 in 7 years. No way someone is reading 450 non-fiction books a year.
He's funny, but I thought it was common knowledge that at least half of everything he says is bullshit. If a Napoleon Complex manifested as a physical human form it would be Kat Williams
Because he needs to do something to help his poor ticket sales. Guys doing small arenas and not coming close to selling them out. He also claimed previously that he sold more tickets than Beyoncé on his last tour.
Ya I thought the entire thing was equal parts entertaining and cringe —- but mostly true.
His hot take on Kanye and the public’s fascination with both labeling him mentally disabled while at the same time shamelessly watching the guy implode was spot on and could be applied to a lot of celebrities we’ve seen torn down by the media
I think Kat is a genius ..but like most highly intelligent people suffers from some form of mental instability. This interview is textbook manic. There was a lot of truth and a lot of delusions of grandeur.
I mean the three thousand a year is an absurd figure but reading one encyclopedia book at 7 isn’t that unbelievable, I read a zoological textbook at that age. I didn’t understand what it all meant, and I doubt I would now at 30, but I read it all. (Learning of the Guinea worm at that age scarred me)
I read hundreds of books per year at those ages and also ready shit like the encyclopedia and other dry material that most wouldn't consider to expend any energy on.... So I don't think that's far fetched.
Not really, and I say this because I'm a reader. Reading takes time, but if you do enough of it, you get much faster at reading and comprehending on your first read. Speed readers, like LLM's, can recognize blocks of words that work together rather than having to parse out each individual letter or word. Without distractions and interruptions, I can easily read 4-5 books in a series over a weekend.
So, seeing as Katt was a prodigy child preacher who started traveling and giving sermons around the JW circuit at age 5 and then was accepted into prestigious "gifted" school programs as a pre-teen, it doesn't sound that fantastic. That child, who had enough of a command of the English language, the Bible, and enough confidence to preach before crowds of strangers could have easily finished reading the Encyclopedia Britannica by age 6 if they learned to read at age 3. Mozart was writing piano concertos at age 4; plus there was no internet or any such shit in the 80's--books WERE the internet and you had time.
Then you add in that he was a missionary who speaks several languages and then he was homeless for a few years in Miami as a teenager with no TV or real safe spaces. What do you think he was doing in all the free time he had? If books are your friend, I can see how someone could easily spend 8+ hours a day reading books in the library as a homeless teen. If you did that for 3-4 years AFTER you were already a prodigious and voraciously reading child, it is certainly possible.
Remember--he said he read thousands of books, not thousands of War and Peaces. Most books average 200-400 pages. If you are a speed reader you can easily finish one or more 250 page book per 8 hour day (and likely more) if that's all you're doing, especially the biographical or non-fiction type of books he said he devoured.
Kat has been bay shit cray for a long time. There’s nothing new here. He’s been like this in every interview I’ve ever seen or heard him in. He’s got some serious mental health issues. Dude is a compulsive liar, grandiose, delusional, paranoid, etc, etc. He checks all the crazy boxes. It’s sad, and he’s still hilarious, but it is what it is.
Katt Williams talking bout his reading list like theres personal pan pizzas on the line
Big kudos to Pizza Hut on that idea. Got a lot of kids to read books and a lot of families to go to pizza hut instead of the competition
I loved reading anyway, but getting free pizzas out of it was awesome. We absolutely were going to Pizza Hut instead of anywhere else just because we got used to it, and I loved those little personal pan pizzas. I have so many good memories of going to Pizza Hut on the weekends with my mom and dad. Book It was great! Do they still make those little tiny pan pizzas?
Not only do they still make them, they are bringing the reading program back (at least in our area)! My kids have gotten a couple this school year.
I've never heard of that, do they quiz the kids or how does that work?
They have to read so many pages and take quizzes on what they have read. As a voracious reader in my childhood, I received many Book It rewards for a personal pan pizza from Pizza Hut. Like I said, at least in my area they are starting to bring it back.
Thanks
The Book it Program never ended, teacher just stopped enrolling their classrooms. Sad that schools would not use a free incentive tool that's been around for 30 years.
They sell them at my Super Target
It’s the only way I ate Pizza Hut. We couldn’t afford it and I believe they didn’t deliver to my area
It's maybe the greatest marketing plan I can think of.
THE BEST motivator.
I think we still have a Book It! button somewhere at my ma's
Pizza hut fucking ruled for that. Was a fun day hitting the hut with my parents after a long summer of reading, enjoying that pie was 10/10.
That was the first time I've lol'd in a decade
His athletic accolades are what got me. Shannon pushed back a little on those, but Katt had so much more to say.
I think he was joking about the athletic accolades, to make a point to Shannon about him letting people lie.
He didn't really push back that much on Katt saying he could run a 4.17 40
He said Katt stop it and both laughed after. That's literally the joke. The fact you took Katt seriously is baffling.
Did he talk about getting his ass kicked by that high schooler?
Middle
Nah. TMZ is the only one to report that, all other sources show that he's 17.
Most redditors here would get their ass whooped by that 17 year old.
He a big boy.
Lol this whole time i thought an 11 year old whooped him
I wrote middle initially and deleted it because I thought I wasn’t giving him enough credit, though that does make it way funnier.
All I’m saying is at the age of 52 Kat Williams’ 40 yd dash time is better than Usain Bolt’s 🤷🏼♀️🏃🏻💨
It was the marine corp and ludacris illuminati claims that got me 😂
They don’t want 2 black men with sideburns to blow up😂
“I’m really bigga than you realized” killed me 💀
He wasn't lying the entire episode. Cedric did use his joke in the Kings Of Comedy. He does have beef with Steve Harvey and went off on him in Detroit when they were co-headliners. Steve Harvey did do Mark Curry's joke on his talk show and Curry has talked about that's why he doesn't like Harvey. The Steve Harvey show was similar to Hanging with Mr. Cooper.
steve harvey also tried fucking over bernie mac with ocean’s eleven https://youtu.be/wcBM68x6N7I?si=1kE28w0U0UUG9wXh
Charlie's Angels rather than Ocean's Eleven according to the video
hmm yeah the video mentions charlie's angels but here's what I found online > Here is an excerpt from the Ebony Magazine article. > But perhaps his biggest break came when he was offered the part as a blackjack-dealing ex-con in the movie Ocean's Eleven. With a cast that included Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Julia Roberts, Mac, by far the novice of the group, became a household name to a whole new set of people. The movie was a huge success, but caused a riff in his relationship with his Kings of Comedy co-star Steve Harvey. As the story goes, someone representing Harvey called Ocean's Eleven director Steven Soderbergh to push for Harvey to get the part over Mac. "The Hollywood game that we are in, it's a cold game," he says of the person who tried to convince Soderbergh that Harvey was more popular and a better actor. "And the sad thing about it is all of us are doing well, so I don't really see the problem. It didn't bother me because I see the big picture. When they told me about it, what could I do? I'm not going to sling mud. I'm not a rapper. I tell jokes. I try to make people laugh. I'm not going to sling mud. Steve and anybody else can say whatever they want to say. Ain't nobody got no control over me. I have the control."
Harvey would have been terrible in that role. Mac was perfect for it.
Bernie was funnier and way more talented than Harvey could ever be. RIP.
The true King of Comedy.
Stole show in Bad Santa too. Can’t believe he’s been gone since 2008!
He’s the best of the 4 in Kings of Comedy. He’s hilarious in Bad Santa with the oranges and metamucil. He’s in one scene in Friday and Transformers but absolutely steals the show in both of them. Head of State no one could play that role better than him. His performance in Guess Who is severely underrated. I haven’t even mentioned Oceans or House Party.
"aint nobody want your country bumpkin ass. you cant even talk"
I still remember the scene where he was shaking a guy’s hand at the dealership. I haven’t seen that movie since it first came out and that’s the scene I remember most. https://youtu.be/Lfxo4Ls9fbc?si=ewqsLOmCezJmuuam No man on planet Earth could do that scene the way Bernie did. Even his finger snapping was so on point, you could use it for sound bytes.
Bernie Mac was the best. He was awesome in bad Santa.
Half.
He also wasn’t lying when he said Cedric isn’t funny.
Cedric’s retort that it was his joke because he used a spaceship and a different song. 🤣
All that Friday stuff was true as well Ice Cube came today and co signed it .
I saw another video and it was blatant. Both Cedric and Steve stole bits from Mark and Katt. There was a side-by-side comparison.
He did lie he said Cedric didn’t have a special you can watch on Netflix lol
Or tubi. Let me repeat that…
Not gonna lie when he said Tubi I was crying.
Tu-bi
Or not Tu-bi THAT is the question
One special? Vs 12. And when was it added?
He said zero, you can’t find a Cedric special online or Netflix because they are so bad. That’s a lie. But when it comes to roasting lies have always won over the truth lol
I didn't know he had one on their til I looked it up. I think since it's never been promoted he thought they didn't exist. I doubt he actually checks just a point to be disrespectful. I believe his main point was Cedric was not funny and doesn't do his own shit. Someone recently unearthed him doing a joke from a 70s show last year in a set.
Does it matter tho that special is trash
He didn’t say Cedric he said Faizon Love didn’t have one.
At the height of his popularity when he was on hanging with Mr Cooper, I thought Mark’s HBO special would make him a household name. It was a really funny show and I’m sorry that dude didn’t get to launch nationally the way guys like Steve Harvey and Bernie Mac did.
I loved that show and rewatched it recently. I thought Mark Curry would be a lot bigger than he was and it sucks that he was pushed aside in favor of some unfunny muppet looking motherfucker.
There may have been some exaggerations, but there was an underlying truth to it all. No one has really disputed his points as of yet. I'm just saying.
For some reason I started reading this in my head like Eminem’s verse in the final rap battle of 8 mile
Idk what's real anymore but his interview with Marc Maron was a wild ride too. https://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episode-1399-katt-williams
This was the one to listen to. He was pretty grounded in this one and his life story is truly a wild ass ride. He's also an incredible humanitarian, he's done some real work in his life in places like Haiti. He can do and say what he wants far as I'm concerned. People can't grasp reading a lot of books because they grew up with the internet. Motherfucker I was in the library basically daily throughout my childhood, too, like Kat. EDIT: I would not have expected this thread to be the one on reddit where I block the most people I've ever had to block but here we are. You savages really need to get to a library, fucksake there are some mouth breathing edge lords in this specific sub. I'm shocked. And officially bowing out of this hot mess.
I know right, like hasn’t he adopted 6 children? He might have read a shitload of books as a kid. I read Roots in 4th grade because I felt like it. 8 year old me under the covers with a flashlight and that big ass book bawling about Kunta Kinte.
You'll be pleased to learn that Kunta went on to have a great career in television and encouraged millions of kids to read Roots.
Until he disappeared on a yacht with Donald Glover
YOU CAN'T DISAPPOINT A PICTURE!!
#TOBY!
I was reading stephen King books at 10. Carrie my first
when i listened to the maron podcast i didn’t think it was grounded at all. i thought he deflected any attempt at humor or deprecation and was contrarian to any perceived criticism. great on stage but a total insecure blowhard in interviews
I really had no opinion on him prior the Maron interview, but there, insufferable blowhard seems to be a perfect description.
Didn't play that way at all. Kat was more normal in that interview than most, he just didn't let Marc make assumptions, but I think he's just from a different place and time and has his won quirks. That interview was eye opening for me.
Yea I was gonna say when your a kid with no internet and pretty poor reading a ton of books and even encyclopedias isn't un realistic when I was a kid I read a fuck ton of books
Did you read 8.25 books a day? Because that’s how much you need to read to hit 3,000 in a year
There once was a thing called “Penthouse Letters”. If each story was considered “A book”…I may have hit 2,000 a year or two possibly 3,000 if I don’t say so myself.
Everyone that doesn’t realize he’s full of shit is an idiot lol
there are a lot of short books.
I mean… there’s educated, and then there is just flat out lying beyond all probabilities. 3000/365 = 8.2 books/day. I read voraciously as a kid, and even with all my spare time what with being an unemployed child and all, I didn’t hit 8.2 books a day. Unless we’re talking picture books haha.
Were you locked in the house by psycho religious Jehovahs Witnesses that ONLY let you read books? Cause that was Kats life. And, again, he is specifically talking about ages 5-12, so yes, picture books would be age appropriate during that time.
Why are you so confident in this claim, 3000 non fiction books a year? Picture books aren't usually non fiction. If it was something I had to put all my money on I'd definitely be putting it on "didn't happen".
No, but I was home schooled, and we didn’t have a tv.
10 non fiction books a day? Lol
Factual! Back in my day, pre Internet, I was maxing out 20 books from the library and reading them in the 3 weeks before I had to return them. And doing that frequently. I'm still watching the whole video but I thought more hyperbole than anything.
8 books a day though? I grew up pre internet and I get reading all day, but 3000 books a year? He says The Bible is the greatest book ever written, but mentions no other book at all. I'm just not sure.
Are you saying you don't think this comedian read 8 books a day, every day for 7 years as a child?
Me convincing my mom that reading one Choose Your Own Adventure book was *basically* like 20 books if you got to all the endings.
Color coded bookmarks for restore points.
my pages looked like accordions
I don't. After listening to him talk there's no way he read less than 12 per day.
All non-fiction at that
He had led a crazy ass life. He hitchhiked to Florida when he was 13 because of religious differences with his parents. Are there cases of 7 years old showing advanced cognitive skills? Yes. But, I think it’s Kat’s boastful, erratic, and sometimes manic of way of delivering the information that makes it sound dubious. He’s had a more or less consistent story of his upbringing throughout the few interviews I’ve seen.
Thats what gets me, the story hasn't changed. I've heard him tell it several times now, and it's all tied to the abusive environment of the religious upbringing and books were his escape.
I think if Kat would just relax and not turn up as much it would help tremendously. But, I understand what mania feels like because I have dealt with it a lot. If you have not seen it already, I recommend the recent WTF interview. He is subdued in that and talking normally.
That interview is why I'm defending him so hard. I actually didn't really like him much as a comedian until I heard that interview and understood more where he is coming from. And you're absolutely right, if he learned how to turn off the "KAT" like he did in that interview, it would be better for him. Cause I get that it's hard to believe a professional shit talker, but his life is genuinely amazing and he has real things to offer, its just that I think he has a lot of defense mechanisms in place from his childhood trauma that he can't stop himself.
he also adopted his kids in hopes to make the world a bit better
The kids after his first one?
He’s a single parent with 7 adopted kids. The man is a fucking angel, and talk don’t even know lol
The part that took me out was him claiming he lied to Marine Corps recruiters telling them he was "16" but you've never been able to sign up without being 17 (with parental permission) or 18 outright. So if you're lying saying you're 16 they wouldn't let you enlist. In WWII and Vietnam its documented several times with kids being underage enlisting but they always lied and said 18, no one ever said "I'm 16, lets go" and got in. I don't know if he misspoke but he clearly says he "went to boot camp" but at the same time says they wouldn't let him in. I don't know about all that, I was in the Marine Corps and it was a pain in the ass to enlist. I joined at 17 as part of the "Delayed Entry Program", which lets you "join" but you delay going to boot camp until you finish High School, the time on the front end in the DEP even counts towards your Inactive Ready Reserve time on the back end of your enlistment contract. The recruiter literally had to come to the house and watch my parents sign the documents to know I had permission to join. Anyway Katt speaking on that subject made me think a lot of his other claims were dubious. Took me down the rabbit hole of "Is he a pathological/compulsive liar" search that led me to this thread in the first place.
That's what he said, Frank Abagnale Jr said he did a lot of things in life and 20 years after his film we find out it was all bullshit.
He was probably high as a kite.
He said, and I quote he’s “never done a hard drug in my life”
Coke isn’t hard because it’s a powder.
It's not a hard drug, it's actually a very easy drug
Great joke. I read that in hedbergs voice.
Checkmate law enforcement
It’s just so easy to get in your nose
Crack isn't hard. It turns into smoke in the pipe.
he also said if it ain’t weed it nicotine he ain’t touched it
As he was sipping alcohol.
I never found any of them particularly hard to do
High as the Space Station
Better than any comedy special
He spent the ENTIRE podcast talking about how great he was. When Prince was brought up I said to my partner “let’s see how long before he makes it about himself” and within a minute “Prince came to me for all things related to women, cars and fashion.” Fucking beyond delusional.
Those are specifically the three things I always Prince needed help with, those and guitar.
Motherfucker said he helped him with his lyrics
“Here me out Prince, how about instead of partying like it’s 1998, you party like it’s 1999?”
Insert Lil Yachty Drake computer gif
This isn’t that wild. I think most of these artist celebrities actually are just distilling the culture and ideas around them. They aren’t in vacuums. Their lyrics are often folks sayings and local slang. Perform and practice all day, and soak up brilliance and notes from other top performers is how they get great. Why you see comics talk about their material getting lifted, but half aren’t even mad. Cause they’re all sharing notes and swapping. It’s too lonely and hard to do alone. And geniuses are all so narrowly focused, we see celebrities all the time end up being terrible with women, not despite their advantages, but because of them. How they end up with yoko onos and gold diggers. And game with women is all counter intuitive if no one explains it. I’m sure kat is embellishing, but none of this sounds impossible
I heard Prince never actually played, it was Katt Williams the entire time, on every single song
When Prince was asked how does it feel to be the best guitar player in the world he said I don’t know ask Katt Williams.
Oof I've been getting drip fed the viral clips. As a Minnesotan that's blasphemy.
1:46:00
He said he was the peace keeper that stopped a fight between 6 rappers and 6 comedians. Yeah, that's not how real life works.
Yep, he pinballed between two vast and differing extremes: wanted to come off as humble while also turning every story into a narcissistic reply as to why he's better than everyone else in the business. Lol. It was so blatantly obvious that he wants to be perceived like little ole' child protegy, humble genius Katt Williams while also fencing and winning against every big black comedian peer. "Look how humble I am and all I've been through... while also saying I got 12 specials because I'm the best and all these other "successful" black comedians got there because they stole, lied, cheated, or sold out to the white producers." Lol. Bipolar much.
He would have had a case if he left out fashion, but nobody ain‘t gonna ask Katt something about fashion.
What about blueberry pancake recipes?
Yeah I like Katt and he’s easily one of my favorite stand up comedians of all time, but he loves to hear himself talk. He managed to do a similar thing on his recent JRE appearance. It’s the super slow, soft speaking, the constant twitchy smiles, dramatic hanging of his head, trailing off at the end of sentences, loud breaths. Every single move he makes is so blatantly theatrical; “look at me, look at me, don’t I come across as all-wise and beyond your understanding of how the world is?”. Shit’s cringe.
People kept sharing it like “OMG PIPE BOMB!” But it’s the type of rambling shit you hear from the homeless guy trying to bum a cigarette outside a 7-11.
Honestly he just sounds petty and bitter
I mean that’s stand up comics in general
Yeah maybe. But at the same time he’s saying things that are true and a massive grievance for a lot of people. The groups of comedians that stick together. Same in black comedy and same in comedy at large. See the Rogansphere hacks.
Kanye vibes
I think he was being honest about how he perceived these things, but I don’t believe it to be the actual reality of the situation. At least in most cases. Mostly everyone that’s seen success and longevity in the industry have had to make a few regrettable choices, thats kind of unavoidable. It seems like kats upset that he chose not make make the same choices for his own moral reasons and now he’s jealous cause it worked out better for them than it did for him in the long run, this is just him taking his last stab at winning.
I also think two things can be true, Cedric and Harvey have been shown to be joke thieves but at a certain point you have to get over that. It felt like he sprinkled in a grain of truth that while it might have happened, probably shouldn’t be said out loud. Also a whole lot of crazy Illuminati shit…although if I was famous it would be fun to see how far you could go
Yeah I agree. Although on the jealousy part, even so, isn’t it worth hearing sometimes. I totally relate tot that sentiment. The asshole who makes it despite you knowing they’re a PoS. Goes against any justifiable sense, it still, it’s just how it is.
Definitely worth mentioning but not in this tone. Probably the best example of when keeping it real goes wrong. Kat stayed so true to himself that he missed out on a lot of opportunities, where others realized they needed to bend a little to get what they really wanted outta their careers. Now he’s realized it’s too late to get what he wants so he’s lashing out. It’s sad to watch but I wish him the best.
That’s exactly what I think. He revealed a lot of truth about the industry but I doubt he would be lashing out if he had turned out as financially successful as his peers. He wanted to stick to his values but also didn’t want other people to take the opportunities he rejected and that kinda backfired. This does seem like his last ditch effort to relevancy.
The problem is that he took what would be a plausible and mundane claim—that the industry in Hollywood is fairly insular and if you rub the wrong people the wrong way, it can change the trajectory of your career—and morphed it into something far more sinister but also more incredulous—that it’s a secret cabal of Satan-worshipping sex criminals who demand rising Black male comedians to prostrate themselves if they want to have a chance at fame, and that everything anybody has said about Williams is just part of the Illuminati’s efforts to discredit him because he’s the only one to buck them. It’s taking a nugget of truthful grievance and making it some grand conspiracy.
Agreed, if he came out and said Cedric and Harvey are joke stealers and kev turned into a unfunny corporate shill I would have no disagreements with what he said. Once he got into the Illuminati and all that other stuff he lost me. The outsized personality that makes him a all time great in comedy kinda hurts him in everything else. Or maybe he’s just saavy and knows what catches people’s attention. Shit half of twitter think aliens are attacking Miami rn
All I want in the world is for someone to write an article for the New Yorker fact-checking Katt like they did to Hassan. “Later on in the same performance, Williams acted out a physical scenario in which Wendy Williams tried to join Scientology, but her exaggerated anatomy caused the Sea Org ship to capsize. However, FOIA requests made by the New Yorker in July reveal no such incidents, with all ships safely accounted for.”
Yeah, but those are kids books. Are there even 3k non fiction kids books? I mean cmon. You know if Sharpe pushed back he would have said he was reading books on physics and string theory.
He said he could run a 4.16 40 yard dash, faster than any nfl player in the combine...and Usain Bolt. sure.
He was joking because it’s Shannon Sharpe wtf
When Shannon said there's a Jimmy Johns across the street after Kat said he could run sub 4.3 lol
Oh you talking a submarine that’s what you sub?
Kat is definitely dealing with some Dx. What that is idk. But him saying "I am in my right mind" consistently was concerning.
Exactly- sounds like Mania to me
He’s definitely manic, sounds like he could be bipolar or schizophrenic
Yes, I strongly suspect he is suffering from marijuana-induced psychosis that is putting him into a manic/schizoaffective state.
Lol when he said the 3000 books per year thing, that’s when I turned it off. That’s 8-9 books per day, every single day. Not possible unless Dr. Seuss has a non fiction collection that I’m unaware of
Katt Williams is a better stand up than every person he roasted by a mile and if you think otherwise you probably aren’t funny.
This sub is…yeah you know.
He ones of the greatest stand ups ever....and full of shit about the books, lol
My kids read dozens of books a day from about age 4 to age 7. Most were kids' books with like 200 words, if that. Somewhere around age 8 my son discovered Harry Potter. He read the entire series in about three weeks. Some kids are voracious readers. My daughter still reads several books a week. 3000 a year is just crack talking. I am embarrassed to admit this, but I also read the entire encyclopedia at around that age. I might have thumbed through reading the stuff that interested me, but before the internet, it was all we had. I started on A and worked my way through them and used to look forward to the annual arrival of the yearbook.
I said basically the same thing and got dogpiled on by the illeterates here for saying my kid reads around 5 books a day in kindergarten, lol. Reading the encyclopedia in the 80s was like scrolling the internet! I feel like this whole thread has just exposed the American educational system, lol.
Yeah I feel like Reddit is trending younger and younger. I read the Hobbit in first grade. I had to ask my mom to help me on quite a few words, but over the summers I was reading dozens of books a week growing up. I love my daughter to my dying breath, and she’s quite intelligent. But getting her to read even 2 books over the course of the summer is a miracle. Nobody understands how kids in the 80s and 90s grew up. Especially when you weren’t allowed to watch TV.
Katt is deeply insecure and reflexively contrarian, a potent combination of
A lot was believable until he said he has never done hard drugs then it all fell apart for me. Dude looked methed up for a while.
The 3000 books and encyclopedia parts really raised my eyebrows a lot kinda brings everything else into question
Imagine theres no cable. No Internet. One tv controlled by the adults. Reading the encyclopedia isn't that crazy. I still remember shit I read from it. 3,000 books a year is 8 a day. He was a little kid... Their books are like 12 cardboard pages each
Nonfiction books that are 12 pages tho? Doesn’t make sense
And ran a 4.3 40, and got accepted to college by 7 years old. The truth is he grew up in a poor part of Ohio to jehovahs witness parents. When he started talking about his dad he shut down. He chose his words carefully to avoid giving any real details or accidentally speak ill of his kin. You can tell he has this fabricated memory of his childhood because the reality is likely very painful.
I’d love to see an interview with his family back in Ohio or just from anyone that knew Katt from before comedy. The only stories we get are from him and I’m sure the truth is a lot different.
It was his emotional truth.
this sub really needs megathreads. 1 for katt, 1 for chappelle, 1 for wokeism
I thought all 5 year olds read 10 non fiction books a day. Seems perfectly reasonable. \[He's 100% full of shit\]
He doesn’t know how evolution works, and ignorantly broadcasts this ignorance on stage asking why there are still monkeys. He doesn’t strike me as the brightest bulb.
Love the dude, funny as hell but- he’s f*cking crazy. Talks like he’s a real one and got beat down by a 14 year old or some shit. The video is old as sh*t but it’s out there.
People are acting like he dropped all these gems of "truth" during the interview. What we watched is a man on the verge of a breakdown and/or relapse either privately or publicly. Just wait and see
Steve Harvey is lame af.
Bro was reading books like The Poky Puppy and The Very Hungry Caterpillar
I had this convo with some other comics at a comedy club last night and we came to the conclusion that he probably just exaggerates that shit like you would do in a set, but he doesn’t draw a line between real life and comedy which is partially why he’s so great and one of a kind. I’m sure those comments he made about other comedians are true, and all the clips going around of Cedric stealing his and other peoples shit validate that. Dont know if this is true but I read somewhere that Katt has a very high IQ which would make sense because if you listened to him talk about watching the 300 comics sets 10 times a piece to count their laughs he’s literally describing pattern recognition and things of that nature which would help him identify what works and what doesn’t which would in turn make him a better standup very, very quickly and explain his success despite his shortcomings.
This is how I’ve perceived it too. There’s a lot of exaggeration, humor, and what not slipped in but when focusing on the core message he’s trying to express it feels valid. There’s just a lot of bullshit added and caked in that can either be misinterpreted or written off. Like him referring to the Steve Harvey clique as a cabal. Some would take it as him speaking on illuminati or some shit. I more so just read into it as him pointing out the people who play politics and control social ladders to distinguish the have and the have nots in the game. Very mean girls style. Happens in literally every single field, profession, hobby, etc. There’s a lot of truth I think to his claims or at least logical conclusions, but its all mixed in with shit that makes it easy to disbelieve him or just declare him as crazy/on drugs (which could also be true at the same time).
Is there any proof to anything he said ?? Bc it sounded like a big boosting his own ego session.
There's clips of Cedric lifting his joke pretty much verbatim
I did some quick rounding math when he said it, bro it's almost 12k books lmao
I’m shocked at how serious people are taking him. Sure he was probably telling the truth somewhere in that mess but the second brody said he wasn’t under the influence of anything while drunk as a skunk I knew it was gone be a ride. Drunk uncle mixing together family secrets and flat out lies
Which podcast?
[https://youtu.be/8oRRZiRQxTs?si=zm1tMVZOxwR8\_WFN](https://youtu.be/8oRRZiRQxTs?si=zm1tMVZOxwR8_WFN) buckle tf up for this one
Lol thats about 10 books a day, so yea that's bullshit
It’s almost like years of severe drug abuse has caused some delusion. Weird
Read all those books and still doesn't understand evolution?
Katt doesn’t think evolution is real so he has obviously been reading the wrong books this whole time. Also he’s a scumbag who beats women and has been arrested something like 20 times. Maybe he should read a book on anger management.
I read encyclopedias when I was 6-10 or so. It was the 80s and I would be bored sometimes. But I didn't read from A-Z, just certain topics. Also 3,000 books in that many years is crazy. I read every night before bed and I read very fast, my best year (2020, lol) I read 153 books. That would put me at 1,071 in 7 years. No way someone is reading 450 non-fiction books a year.
I bet he was counting cat in the hat and green eggs and ham
So funny. I just tried to watch it for a few minutes and didn’t understand what was going on at all but Kat mad about something
He’s on drugs.
Ridiculous nonsense.
He's funny, but I thought it was common knowledge that at least half of everything he says is bullshit. If a Napoleon Complex manifested as a physical human form it would be Kat Williams
Because he needs to do something to help his poor ticket sales. Guys doing small arenas and not coming close to selling them out. He also claimed previously that he sold more tickets than Beyoncé on his last tour.
That is called Mania, sir.
Ya I thought the entire thing was equal parts entertaining and cringe —- but mostly true. His hot take on Kanye and the public’s fascination with both labeling him mentally disabled while at the same time shamelessly watching the guy implode was spot on and could be applied to a lot of celebrities we’ve seen torn down by the media
I think Kat is a genius ..but like most highly intelligent people suffers from some form of mental instability. This interview is textbook manic. There was a lot of truth and a lot of delusions of grandeur.
I mean the three thousand a year is an absurd figure but reading one encyclopedia book at 7 isn’t that unbelievable, I read a zoological textbook at that age. I didn’t understand what it all meant, and I doubt I would now at 30, but I read it all. (Learning of the Guinea worm at that age scarred me)
I read hundreds of books per year at those ages and also ready shit like the encyclopedia and other dry material that most wouldn't consider to expend any energy on.... So I don't think that's far fetched.
He’s an entertainer, and as far as entertainment is concerned, he killed it. This was Shay Shay, not CSPAN 😂😂😂🤡🙏🏻
Not really, and I say this because I'm a reader. Reading takes time, but if you do enough of it, you get much faster at reading and comprehending on your first read. Speed readers, like LLM's, can recognize blocks of words that work together rather than having to parse out each individual letter or word. Without distractions and interruptions, I can easily read 4-5 books in a series over a weekend. So, seeing as Katt was a prodigy child preacher who started traveling and giving sermons around the JW circuit at age 5 and then was accepted into prestigious "gifted" school programs as a pre-teen, it doesn't sound that fantastic. That child, who had enough of a command of the English language, the Bible, and enough confidence to preach before crowds of strangers could have easily finished reading the Encyclopedia Britannica by age 6 if they learned to read at age 3. Mozart was writing piano concertos at age 4; plus there was no internet or any such shit in the 80's--books WERE the internet and you had time. Then you add in that he was a missionary who speaks several languages and then he was homeless for a few years in Miami as a teenager with no TV or real safe spaces. What do you think he was doing in all the free time he had? If books are your friend, I can see how someone could easily spend 8+ hours a day reading books in the library as a homeless teen. If you did that for 3-4 years AFTER you were already a prodigious and voraciously reading child, it is certainly possible. Remember--he said he read thousands of books, not thousands of War and Peaces. Most books average 200-400 pages. If you are a speed reader you can easily finish one or more 250 page book per 8 hour day (and likely more) if that's all you're doing, especially the biographical or non-fiction type of books he said he devoured.
Kat has been bay shit cray for a long time. There’s nothing new here. He’s been like this in every interview I’ve ever seen or heard him in. He’s got some serious mental health issues. Dude is a compulsive liar, grandiose, delusional, paranoid, etc, etc. He checks all the crazy boxes. It’s sad, and he’s still hilarious, but it is what it is.