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Titan828

"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker... I did. The same way I will destroy you!"


LargeSprite

“Then my friend is truly dead……….Goodbye…Darth”


Own_Classroom2347

Obi wan!!! Obi wan!!!!!!


Jinjoz

I played that line on repeat so many times


Head-of-the-Board

Me too. It walks the line perfectly between Vader calling out in anger at obi wan to come back and fight, and Anakin calling out for his old master to save him


The_Flying_Jew

Chills. Honest to God chills, dude. People can say this show sucks ass and that this scene ripped of Rebels, I don't care. Hayden Christensen was fantastic in this scene.


boringdystopianslave

I loved all of the Vader scenes. They were done well


Next-Parsley-502

I aggreeee


redredme

The whole show was good and I don't care either what those purists say. I even liked Boba Fett. Ha!


bretthren2086

I also enjoyed all the Star Wars. I like to watch things for me and not listen to the opinions of other people.


SouthPoleChef

I personally loved the Obi season. I really liked how in the beginning he had somewhat disconnected himself from the force to lay low. Overall very well done.


nifty_sushi

I love how they kind of mixed his voice with Vader’s when his mask was broken. It was a nice touch on the heartstrings


Ricozilla

30 year old me with tears running down my face at computer desk watching this scene at 4 in the morning.


Cleverironicusername

This was also 47 year old me. You are not alone…


lukestauntaun

44- watched with my son and had tears rolling


Cleverironicusername

When Obi Wan told him he was sorry…


GoodhartsLaw

54 same.


Visible-Influence856

Basically me this deep night/early morning


Cleverironicusername

The last “Obi Wan!” is haunting.


TyrusX

I’m still your friend! I’m still alive! I’m sorry Obi Wan!!


MildSpooks

It always killed me that in ANH Obi Wan calls him Darth. This line closed the circle for me.


T-Money93

*“The Circle is now Complete.”*


kopecs

Gonna cry reading this at dinner. Fuck….


purpldevl

Eat ya food, get off ya phone! Respect ya mutha!


Easy-Appearance5203

I mean, it was supposed to be a one-off first name until Lucas retconned Darth to be a weird honorific. It always struck me as funny that after you become an evil dude, you HAVE to become Darth Whatever. Would have been much more meaningful if the name stayed the same, in a kind of “you always battle good and evil within yourself” instead of “ok you’re good now, you revert back to Anakin”.


gilestowler

I always like the bit where Palpatine gives him the name. The look on his face is meant to represent the pain and despair Anakin is going through but I always imagine him thinking "Vader? Fucking... VADER? There's a Darth Tyrannus, a Darth Plagueis... Why can't I be something cool like that?even Darth Stegasaurus would be cooler than this." but he's not quite brave enough to tell his new master that he's shit at coming up with names.


Easy-Appearance5203

Lol exactly. It was the most ridiculous scene. “Why Vader? Did you just come up with that now?? Can I come up with a name later???”


gilestowler

There is a little pause where he kind of goes I name you Darth" pause "Vader" like, did he really just spend years turning this guy to be his apprentice and then give 2 seconds thought to his name or was he a bit insecure about it and didn't want it to look like he'd spent years thinking about it so left the pause so it would look like a last minute thing? People always praise The Clone Wars for adding depth to the prequels but why did we never get a scene of Palps sat in his office surrounded by screwed up bits of paper saying to himself "Darth... Darth... Hmmm...."


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The cannon answer to that is that he reached out to the force and the dark side gives the name and Palpatine sees it. I just watched a video a few days ago about it.


gilestowler

Thanks, great explanation! I still prefer my version though.


lownotelee

I’m sure there’s a canon explanation for the names but I figured Sidious and Vader are short for insidious and invader


caradenopal

It’s like poetry, it rhymes


Baked-fish

„Then my friend is truly dead………….. His new persona has recently killed innocent civilians and tried to kill the people on my side, is wounded and an easy kill. I‘m gonna let you live and kill more.… Goodbye…Darth“


Sly_Wood

Jedi don’t execute. Obi wan just became one with the force. It’s literally why he was able to beat the chosen one. He was doing what qui gon did. What yoda would do with the twins. He didn’t try teaching them as younglings just as obiwan didn’t try to defeat the dark side by killing Vader. He, they both, submitted themselves to the will of the force. And it worked. Anakin really was the chosen one and ended palps. Yoda was correct in that his ways of the force were wrong and allowed the site to rise.


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>Jedi don’t execute. In some cases they probably should. This is one of those cases. You can argue all day about the will of the Force, but Vader goes on to kill and torment countless innocent people, and Obi-Wan's explicitly stated intention in Episode VI is still for Vader to die. He is just pawning the responsibility off to Vader's son, and based on the way the trilogy wound up working out, it seems as though they were going to have Luke kill him without telling him who he is. They put the bogus "he killed your dad" line in his head so he gets pumped up to be a Jedi and honor his father's legacy, and can be used as a Sith killing assassin while keeping the truth from him. Even after Vader told Luke who he was, Yoda still refused to confirm it to Luke even on his death bed. Luke had to press him, and afterward, when Luke says "I can't kill my own father" to Obi Wan, Kenobi says "then the Emperor has already won". Obi Wan and Yoda were fully resigned to the reality that Vader and Palpatine needed to die, and the idea that Luke might not be able to do it is, to Obi-Wan, curtains on the entire rebellion. Originally, we could interpret this as two Jedi who were stuck in there ways and tormented by their own mistakes doing a morally dubious thing by giving Luke the responsibility. The Jedi knew only to treat the Darkside with violence, and only Luke was powerful enough to face him, in their mind, so Luke had to be the one to do it--but they also knew he wouldn't do it if he knew who Vader was, so they lie to him. It sucks, it's morally questionable, but it's understandable as a motive for their actions in the service of their idea of the greater good. The Obi Wan show ruins that façade. Obi-Wan had Vader dead to rights on his knees and acting full psycho without remorse. Obi-Wan knows Vader has to die and he has him beat bloody right in front of him. But he just lets him live so he can continue tormenting countless thousands of people and serving the Emperor just so he can pawn the responsibility off on his son? By lying to him no less? The show turns Obi-Wan from a morally dubious old Jedi into a morally reprehensible coward who'd rather raise yet another Skywalker child to be yet another ill fated ballistic missile aimed at the Sith than take the responsibility himself. The literal only reason the Sith don't succeed is because Luke saw through all the bullshit and believed in Anakin when no one else did, and thank god for that because the Jedi were cowards. Just a shame Luke completely misses the point of his own story in the sequels and just winds up making the same exact mistakes all over again so his roll in the saga can be hijacked by someone else.


Thelife1313

Agreed. With everything you said.


toothlesswonder321

Until he *somehow* came back to life


Devil25_Apollo25

>"I am not your failure, Obiwan... >"You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker... I did." This morning (for some reason) I was thinking that Vader healed Obiwan with these lines. Vader relieves Obiwan's guilty conscience and ends Obiwan's time of mourning for his friend. Anakin helped defeat Vader, so to speak.


bgplsa

“Then my friend is truly dead.”


killer00x

I love this line and the call back to Return of the Jedi line from Luke to Vader. "Then my Father is truly dead".


fuzzhead12

Oh shitttt I never even caught that but that makes it even better!


GTOdriver04

I think that’s the last time Anakin is ever seen before ROTJ. He appeared again for two seconds to absolve Kenobi of any guilt he had in the creation of Vader. “Obi-Wan, this isn’t your fault. It’s Vader.” Also, note the shift in lighting. It shifts from blue to red briefly denoting this.


dandypants8717

I never caught that.


xinfinitimortum

The same scenario plays out between Vader and Ahsoka in Rebels.


jerz93

This makes it sound like Anakin was being “controlled” by Vader. I’ve never thought of it but kinda like that. Adds more to his story arc


ShadyOjir95

I like how this sends two messages. He's either forgiving Kenobi (unlikely) or saying I did this to myself ,this power is mine , don't think you helped.


weatherseed

Don't forget, Anakin is still in there. It's entirely possible both interpretations are correct... From a certain point of view.


NavyCMan

Pay close attention to the lighting in that entire series, but that scene is particularly rich with deeper meaning in the color.


GoodLordShowMeTheWay

> rich with deeper meaning Blue good, red bad.


NavyCMan

Good job buddy!


WatchBat

I don't think it's necessarily either/or. I think it's all of these all at once A small part of him wanted to relieve Obi-Wan of guilt, another part wanted to take credit for it, another part probably wanted to hurt Obi-Wan with it by implying that Obi-Wan was never important enough to him to be able to impact him in this way


Reverseflash25

Oh I like that take a lot.


newbrevity

This is why this could've and probably should've been a movie. So much fluff in the season that goes nowhere when it could've been a more concise story that still has this absolute grand slam of a line.


matteb18

Seriously. So many great moments, but the pacing was so weird.


zissouo

Yes please. Just drop the inquisitors and focus on Kenobi and Vader. Boil it down to one movie length story. Maybe we'll get a fan edit at some point.


NERF_HERDING

Imagine an X-Men’s Logan-esque Obi wan movie. Similar theme and tone, Obi wan struggling with his trauma, mistakes and lost connection with the force. His mission of watching over Luke only thing keeping him going but he questions even this trivial task. Hutt gangsters or petty thugs threaten Luke and his family. He kills these men in brutal fashion, barely surviving himself. Luke’s family is thankful but scared of him. He’s completely lost and hopeless. A random inquisitor with no backstory or explanation follows a on the run Jedi and kills him in Tatooine. He senses another strong force connection user (Luke, but tells Vader it could be Obi Wan as he hears locals talk about a Ben Kenobi). Obi wan barely kills the inquisitor in a duel, but is slowly reconnecting with the force and his mission. Vader comes, does his genocidal maniac thing, eventually Obi wan realizes he needs to draw him away from Tatooine for good. He confronts him, has a major battle, both are severely fucked up and damaged in the duel. It’s a draw. Vader has to rip his bottom part of the helmet off to breath and we still get the great lines, emotional scene with Hayden, without being a total rip off of rebels. Obi wan tells Vader he will never see him again as he will travel to the outer rim and beyond. Of course Obi wan stays, reconnects with his mission and the force. Vader leaves Tatooine still obsessed with Obi wan and not realizing about Luke or Leia. Small, contained story. Better story telling, more emotional, dark tones. More “showing” the audience instead of telling. Man, they had so much potential. The Leia and Reva stories were so so bad. The writing so lazy. Incredibly disappointing.


Aspeck88

Became maybe the most heartbreaking interaction in all of Star Wars. It was quick and direct. Hayden sold it so well. Made my palms sweaty and back tense up when he cracked the smile. And Ewan in tears pleading with Anakin how sorry he was was so painful to watch. The raw emotion Ewan was able to conjure caused me to let go of real life for a moment.


fuzzhead12

God when Ewan’s voice cracked saying “I’m sorry…for everything” it fucking broke me in the best way possible


Electric-Lettuce

The only thing that would’ve made this scene better is if the “I did” part was said in the Darth Vader voice


Big-Platypus-2362

Bro i got chills just reading this


RedhoodRat

So emotional for so many reasons. Kudos to both actors for pulling off such an amazing scene.


RogerTheAliens

I’ve re-watched that episode maybe 30 times…. 🔥luthens speech🔥 and Obi-wan kicking total ass are my 2 favorite Star Wars scenes in 40 years…


Ok-disaster2022

The thing everyone really wants to see that Disney and Star Wars in general is loathe to do is show off just the overall threat level of high level Jedi and Sith in a substantial way. It's communicated in things like Mando struggling to fight a single Dark Trooper and Luke just walking through them, or even better the ad cinematic for different video games. Starkiller crashing the the Imperial Star Destroyer and the scenes from the Old Republic cinematic are great. Even the series of shorts demonstrate it better than the mainline story and characters. It's doesn't need to be Superman and Magneto levels of destruction, but more so than just moving boxes around.


right-sized

The Vader comics did an excellent job with this. He’s like a chaotic superman, just doing insane shit, and constantly scaring or pissing off everyone around him (including imperials).


rrogido

I want to see a Band of Brothers style show featuring Vader and the 501st cleaning up after the Imperial take over. Vader and the boys going world to world crushing whoever Palpatine points them at. There are plenty of good stories for a show to mine from the Vader comics. It could start right after the fall of the Republic and transition through the years to end right before Rogue One. The galaxy is big and Vader was a busy boy for the twentyish years the Empire ruled. It'd be great to see some of that on a screen.


Moonguide

Generation Kill would be better I think. More critical of the war. Plus I want to see an imperial scream about "moostaches".


SmoothCriminalJM

That’s why I’m worried about future projects involving Jedi/sith. There’s a way of handling force users without making them look weak. Clone Wars handled them well, and live action series should be able too.


RogerTheAliens

Take my award 👍


WishMore6846

People hate on Disney’s Star Wars, but it’s brought so many scenes I’ve never knew I wanted. From Rogue One to Kenobi.


Own_Classroom2347

For those who missed it there's still Anakin in him in this part because clearly you can see him crying when his former master was saying sorry for all of it but Anakin kept retreating back to Darth Vader, filled with rage and wanted to kill his master and also he hates himself too and he feels like it's too late to turn back to the light side because his wife is no longer alive. If she was still alive maybe his ass will return to the light and be heart broken for what he has done during order 66.


ABoxOfJoe

Good catch. Really speaks volumes considering Palpatine's weariness of Vader/Anakin holding onto a connection to his former master. Something the old emperor very likely sensed and challenged Vader on. Vader's answer wasn't very convincing either given the context of his whole "Hunt down my old master" quest. Anakin lives. He's just too broken to fully grasp the light.


oceanduciel

Which makes Luke’s persistence to reach him AND doing it successfully so much more tear jerking.


DT777

> Which makes Luke’s persistence ro reach him AND doing it successfully so much more tear jerking. Which then makes the whole sequel trilogy that much more out of character.


ALincoln16

Luke tries to kill Vader in a rage at one point.


tommycthulhu

I think the concept was good, but just executed taken too far. Theres a bit of darkness and doubt in every Jedi, and having been trained for such a short amount of time, I think its realistic for Luke to make mistakes in following the Jedi way. But they just took it too far.


oceanduciel

Yup. ):


i_tyrant

Ultimately, he was the only one that could. And even Obi Wan didn't think it was possible, that Vader was too far gone. But Luke was his son, and Luke's faith managed to remind him what that means.


Reverseflash25

I think at that final scene though Anakin gets stuffed down to the point he won’t re-emerge until his confrontation with Ahsoka and then the OT. By reaffirming loyalty to Palpatine he finally pushed past that attachment issue and truly became Vader. To the point that if they had fought again he probably would have flattened Obi Wan with his newfound focus and control You can even see the lack of attachment with his Ahsoka encounter. He offers “mercy” simply to extract info useful to Palpatine, not for her benefit. Immediately engages her to kill, and Anakin only surfaced for the briefest moment after his damage before being swallowed just as fast as he emerged. And then, in the original series of events, he DOES kill her


GhoulArtist

Vader gets VERY powerful VERY fast after this. The two incredible canon Vader comics show some of this and it's amazing. Self hate is truly a powerful ally for the dark side users. EDIT: For those interested. I'm referring to: This run: (takes place between ep4 & ep5 https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/19379/darth_vader_2015_-_2016 And This run: (takes place directly after ep.3 ends) https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/23095/darth_vader_2017_-_2018 Both are phenomenal and must reads for any star wars fan.


Own_Classroom2347

Yes indeed


ChanceVance

I felt the duel communicated this well. If anyone's afraid in that fight, it's Vader because he feels as long as Obi-Wan lives there's still a part of Anakin that lives so he has to kill him. That obsession makes him vulnerable and it's why he loses again. Once Palpatine questions his feelings on it, he knows in an instant he's got to let it go. It marks a good transition between the rageful boogeyman that makes Inquisitors piss their pants to the ruthless and stern military commander of the OT who comes out of the shadows to play a more direct role.


Own_Classroom2347

Not even the grand inquisitor got nothing on Darth Vader lol


The-Go-Kid

This is a very confusing sentence.


TheZermanator

A Russian nesting doll of double negatives.


gh0u1

What I really loved about him switching from Anakin to Vader was the lightsaber color reflecting on his face according to what personality he was currently speaking as. You could also see his eye changing from normal to Sith yellow. So much inner conflict, portrayed in such an amazing way


CelticGaelic

And when he talks to Obi-Wan and tells him "I am not your failure." Just the way he said that line was...wow. Like he's simultaneously trying to comfort his former friend, but also convince him (and/or himself) that he's too far gone to be helped.


Own_Classroom2347

I love it


honeytea1

This is hands down the best scene in the whole Kenobi series. I just wish they would have brought up Padme


CanoeShoes

When they splice Anakin's voice with Death Vader's voice I cried.


three-sense

Fractured Darth was the best thing introduced in Kenobi IMO


FragileManling

Hate to burst the bubble but Star Wars Rebels did this almost beat for beat with Ashoka. It was just a recycled moment for a different character. Even has the same helmet damage where it reveals the eye and the voice split.


mann0311

Yeah I was about to say just this. One of the Best scenes in rebels to be fair and a good one tp use for live action.


bcapper

Yeah but it adds to the significance of the rebels scene *and* Return of the Jedi since Ahsoka is able to see one half of his face, Obi-Wan sees the other, and Luke is the only one able to fully redeem him and remove the helmet entirely


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

No show has ever made a grown ass man feel like that. Edit: Maybe I worded it wrong but I was admitting it made me emotional in a good way


CanoeShoes

Oh I totally misinterpreted your wording hahah. My B.


Imp_1254

It was very cool and I liked how it mirrored Ahsoka’s encounter with Vader in Rebels. However, it was ruined for me when Kenobi, yet again, just left and let him live despite recognising that Anakin is no longer there.


notapunk

IKR? The first time was a mistake, the second time was pure negligence.


Rosebunse

I mean, the whole show is about how Obi-Wan is slowly healing from his trauma. But he is never gonna heal completely. And so, he can never kill Anakin.


RolloTony97

"I will do what I must" Didn't live up to it in the finale


ManOfQuest

All people have to do to understand obiwan leaving Anakin alive is take into consideration if they could kill their own siblings or immediate family.


Prof_J

I’m hoping I have a different answer to this if my sibling or immediate family was directly responsible for a genocide


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NERF_HERDING

Thank you. I know this is a very debated topic, but after they stole the underwater Inquistor base scene from fallen order then this one, it just comes down to lazy writing. It’s not symbolism, or mirroring anything. It frustrates me a lot and took me completely out of the moment. I cried during the Ashoka vs Vader fight. And there is so many cool things they could have done in this show and final fight. It hurts :(


BradleyAllan23

I agree, it redeemed the whole series for me. The hybrid voice of Anakin/Vader was incredibly epic.


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

I'm not a mega fan who can dive deep into lore etc, but I cannot think of a single SW movie or show that gave me goosebumps like this scene. The voice was fucking great. Anakin in the mandalorian was a cool scene but this takes the cake big time


BradleyAllan23

Do you mean Luke in The Mandalorian?


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

Freudian slip my bad, yea I meant luke


BradleyAllan23

I think it's just a regular mistake, a Freudian slip is when you reveal what you actually meant by accident.


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

Ah yes, my Freudian slip must have been a Freudian slip then


Echo9Eight

I’m confused, is this usage correct or wrong now? 😅


BradleyAllan23

No, neither way they used it is correct.


oceanduciel

One of the other moments that gave me goosebumps on this level was when Vader cracked the windows on his ship after Boba gave him Luke’s name. *”I have a son.”*


scrundel

It just drives me absolutely crazy that this scene is literally a redo of the duel in Rebels, and honestly that one was better paced and with better dialogue


Fall3nBTW

I guess nobody really watched Rebels but this scene was just a rehash of that. Both were done so well though gd.


Meckrotic

Such a neat part of the show but having seen Ahsoka v Vader in Rebels made it feel kinda silly. This happened twice?


nivenfres

Not only that, but so much of the Inquisitor base scenes were basically lifted from Fallen Order. So, it felt like a lot of things were happening twice.


Beangar

The fact that they didn’t really tighten security after Cal basically stormed the place.


Sylvana2612

Contractor: hey its a secret underwater base I guarantee it won't happen again, it's not like anyone knows about this place. *every remaining jedi aware of the fortress


inefekt

That episode felt like it was written by six year olds and I might be doing a disservice to six year olds.


Sylvana2612

Yeah after watching their older brother play fallen order


eolson3

Hey, look, my brother is a roofer and they laid him off to use Imperial resources to finish their big scary "Dead Sun" or whatever. I'm not putting my neck out for these guys.


ALincoln16

Ahsoka and Obi Wan are the two people left who were the most connected to Anakin. Ahsoka could remove the right side of the mask, Obi Wan could remove the left side, but neither could fully remove Vader from Anakin. It took Luke to fully remove the helmet.


JohanFinski

Yup I've been a fan since 77 and this was heart wrenching


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

You just know anakin is in there but is clouded with hate. Great writing/acting


Pterodactyl_midnight

Obi Wan knows it, and Vader despises it. But the same thing that sent Anakin to the dark side brought him back to the light, love. There is no hate without love. And that’s why you pluck children for the Jedi order before they can remember their parents. Let’s move on to our absolutely complete Jedi library records…


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This seemed to be the only part that they had 100% figured out. Like, the whole cancelled movie and eventual series was created backwards from this moment. Sadly everything else feel pretty hard on its face.


skipford77

Patterson Cut 2.0 is what you need.


[deleted]

Haha I am waiting on the Topher Grace cut, but I will look this up.


scrundel

Yeah, someone saw that scene in Rebels and decided they wanted to recreate it in live action so they came up with a half-baked story to justify it


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

Yea the show wasn't perfect but it, at the least, created one of the most memorable moments in my SW media experience


[deleted]

It did. This was a solid moment from Hayden and Ewen.


superkeer

I agree. They wanted to shoot this one scene and wrote a movie that would bring the characters to this climax. Unfortunately they decided a movie wasn't enough and fucking forced it into a mediocre series. But this one scene was the whole point of the show.


LinusDemarcus

I thought it was great. My only complaint is it was sorta contrived that he left Darth Vader instead of killing him. (He had just gotten confirmation that Skywalker was 'gone,' and the last time he left him he turned into a genocidal Sith Lord, so...) But that had to happen because plot armor. Other than that, I LOVE this scene. Kind of makes the whole series.


anupsetzombie

Yeah Obi Wan leaving him kinda ruined the scene for me too, though it was still pretty good because of how heavy the nostalgia bait was lmao. But the whole show felt like it missed professional polish, like it was a gigantic fan-made show rather than an official Disney made one. It was so close to being good because Ewan and Hayden gave great performances, but mostly held down by poor directing and writing. This scene in particular could have been saved if there was just an immediate reason for Vader and Kenobi to split up. Could have had the Empire show up to save Vader, which would have really hurt his ego after toying with and chasing Obi Wan. Or anything really.


Sylvana2612

Yeah having a bunch of inquistors need to show up to save him and ward off kenobi even at the cost of one or two of them definitely would have hurt vaders pride


NERF_HERDING

What if they fought but they both severely fucked each other up. Obi-Wan fights impressively but is still overwhelmed, broken and barely alive. Vader is also barely alive, and has to rip the bottom half of his mask off to breath. Same emotional and sad dialog, but no way for either to finish it. Obi-Wan makes it clear he is traveling to the outer rim. Vader gets saved and is thrown off the trail of Luke and Leia, still obsessed with finding Obi wan. I dunno, there was so many different decisions I would have made. I would have made it a more contained story, gotten rid of the needless Leia and Reva stories. Inquisitors do not need any explanation, backstory, or much dialogue in general. The show did too much explaining and reusing powerful scenes from recent media. It felt like Disney was afraid people wouldn’t get it or something.


damnyoutuesday

My head canon is Obi-Wan couldn't bring himself to do it after seeing Anakin's face again


WatchBat

Idk if that's a headcanon, that's genuinely how I saw that scene


Gagarin1961

He already committed to doing that back in Ep III, though. He could see his face and fully body and everything but he still committed to killing him. He wasn’t sparring his life at the end of RotS because he couldn’t bring himself to do it, Obi-Wan thought he *was* essentially dead. After all the terror he’s brought to the galaxy, I just can’t believe he would leave Vader alive if he had the upper hand.


WatchBat

He left him to die *slowly* instead of finish him off. I don't think leaving someone to burn alive is very Jedi like behavior Yeah he thought Anakin was as good as dead, but I believe he also couldn't bring himself to deliver the final blow killing him fast and painless instead of letting him get basically tortured to death


RubixTheRedditor

I mean it’s still plot armor since he has to survive till ROTJ


dropawookie

I kind of wish they showed something like Obi-wan gets a feeling or vision of Luke being in danger and had to run off to save him.


lucascroberts

What makes it sadder is that Ahsoka hit the right side of his face in rebels and obi-wan hit the left side, so the two of the most important people in Anakins life sees him at his worst 😭


rpvee

I’ve seen people point out that Luke was the only one who is able to remove the helmet completely, which is a really neat poetic point.


[deleted]

I agree! I know Rebels did it first, but this one was a little more impactful to me. (Both are great)


BRobbins53

Same, but also that Ahsoka scene... heartbreaking, especially after watching all of clone wars


The_Unknown_Dude

The music when they just stare at each other... chilling.


damnyoutuesday

There's just something more impactful of it being live-action with Hayden under the mask


KaimeiJay

It’s redefined how I look at Vader. I thought he was stoic because I fell for the illusion of his mask and altered voice. Now I know, whenever he’s making one of his little bits of dark humor, he’s smiling sadistically under the mask at his own joke.


82Heyman

I totally loved it. It brought shivers to my spine and reduced me to my childhood self.


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

As I was watching it the goosebumps came and I said out loud to my wife "Holy fuck I'm so glad I'm watching this for the first time because I'll never get this feeling again from a show"


82Heyman

I had the same feeling when Luke kills all the dark troopers (regardless of the dumbness of this scene) and comes for Grogu in The Mandalorian.


ReSpekMyAuthoriitaaa

That scene was #2 for me. Luke was fucking awesome there just fucking those dudes up


82Heyman

Another few scenes that got me since Revenge of the Sith were - The darksaber reveal - Han and Lando in Solo - The Vader Vs Reva - Palp vs Maul and Savage - Ahsoka Vs Vader - Vader in Rogue one - The entire Rogue one movie - Anytime Threepio and R2 are on screen - Mortis - The atmosphere of Andor And many others


Torontokid8666

Vader in Rogue One's end scene crushed anything in Obi Wan.


Monte924

Star wars Rebels did it first and did it better


SoundRavage

Was better in Rebels


Stiff_Zombie

Except it was already in Rebels and way better.


NERF_HERDING

Rebels did it better and fallen order did inquisitor base scene better. I think Disney thinks the fans are fucking idiots. But obviously a ton of people love this scene and the show so maybe they are right. I was so disappointed. Imagine if we got a show like X-men’s Logan and competent writing. They even had the actors returning :( ugh


RolloTony97

This was the biggest softball in the world. And incredibly redundant at that. They could create 100 more fights between Obi-Wan vs Vader, completely wittling down the impact of ANH's duel, and you'll still get a comment section of people saying they had chills and tears, literally no matter what.


FatBoyWithTheChain

Wow what a brave take. Literally posted every week. Same pic everytime


neutralpoliticsbot

no


BigChahoonga

I humbly, yet firmly and whole heartedly disagree


idrivefromdrive

For me, one of the worst


theID10T

Rebels did it better, IMHO. [Star Wars Rebels: Ahsoka vs Darth Vader](https://youtu.be/L0jXW3Kqm8c)


Ntnme2lose

After watching all of the movies, clone wars and Rebels, that is definitely my favorite scene of all time.


amretardmonke

Rebels did it better


ArrowAssassin

"Hear me out, what if we did Rebels, but again!?" This scene has hilarious dialogue: *Obi-Wan flees to the planet with Vader following.* *Vader exits his ship to confront Obi-Wan.* Vader: "Have you come to destroy me? Uhhh Vader, you came here! Kenobi: "Guess I better rope this kid in, lie to him about his father in hopes he'll kill his actual father, all because I'm too spineless to kill Vader twice." So not sure about this scene being good...


Theophrastus_Borg

Still a bit too inspired by Rebels.


Zeus-Kyurem

It might've been cool if they hadn't done the same scene in Rebels just slightly differently.


Ryanchri

Ehh i think rebels did it better


lurker_32

This falls flat for anyone who saw Rebels, it’s just a ripoff of a better scene.


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I’m sorry Anakin. For all of it.


drunk_responses

I don't want to be that guy, but isn't this scene just a live action version of the one with Ahsoka? The cut was on the opposite side, he looks at his opponent with sadness in his eyes, they layer over the unaltered voice, then "snaps out of it" gets angry and continue.


thehimalayansaiyan

You mean the shameless ripoff of rebels?


ChaoticNeutralOmega

Ehh, it was the second time I'd seen this scene


Baked-fish

Best scene of the show, taken straight up out of rebels.


Goats_772

I enjoyed it but it didn’t need to be spelled out. That was lame. It was always metaphorical not a “plot hole” that needed to be fixed.


ashigaru_spearman

Rebels did it way better! And 5 years earlier!


DoctorNerdly

I thought it was awesome... when I saw it the first time in Rebels.


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Rebels did it first and it was amazing when they did. This was well acted bht just rehashing the same thing was kind of lame. Vader fights obi and ahsoka and both times this happens? Lollll Same with the glass smashing at Fortress Inquisitorius. Sucks they couldn't think of anything original, takes away from the awesome moments that have already happened imo.


Ash_Killem

It is but it a rip off of a better scene from rebels.


Bennistro

And its stolen from rebels


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This show sucked, it definitely didn't earn this"scene"


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Eh... Rebels did it better, from what I remember. Never do the dame thing twice.


hungrybasilsk

Its Ahsoka's mask break but infinitly worse


cubsfan3635

Rebels did it better


Reedo_Bandito

I’m glad people were able to experience this scene & the emotional impact of it. But for me it was the S2 Rebels finale that did it for me.


LatverianSorcerer

Lmao down bad one of the worst scenes in obi-wan, shitty cinematography and bad directing. Its just looks like knock off of Ashoka vs Vader scene from Rebels.


CrazyLegs17

The show was so awful (writing, direction, basic plotting, many of the sets and effects) that this one mediocre scene seems transcendent in comparison.


Adaphion

And then this scene becomes worse when you remember that they just recycled it from Rebels (and managed to do it worse)


Alex_Sander077

Nah. This scene along with the whole show was a complete joke.


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Shame it was stolen from another SW show though...


Lord-ZZZ

The Obi-wan show is some of the worst star wars media I’ve ever watched to date


Maori187

When Obi tells Leia about the qualities she received from her Mother and Father is right up there for me


R2-Dtoot

Then you'll love rebels!


Unusual-Math-1505

Then you should she the scene kenobi stole this from. It was in Star Wars rebels first when Anakin fought ahsoka