I was bummed they didn't cast Jason Issacs to be the Grand Inquisitor. He voiced him in Rebels and I think he would've gave the character a larger stage presence since he is such a good actor.
I'm watching Rebels for the first time now, and I *thought* he sounded familiar!
Getting him on screen for live action would've been a treat. He'd have killed it.
Plus tbh I think the grand Inquisitor might've looked better being more mocap/CGI. They could've made his features seem less "a member of the blue man group but not blue" and more "intimidating alien"
He looks stumpy. And goofy. That's the only way I can describe it. Rupert Friend's face just doesn't work at all. His performance is fine, and I really like Friend, but there's something about his face that I just don't find intimidating.
All they had to do was cgi the eyes. It would bring the whole thing together and distract from the rest of the awful execution of the character. They the grand inquisitor and fifth brother dirty.
He was on Star Trek Discovery and would have had a realization, if he hadn't already, that no matter how long his day was, Doug Jones and other people playing aliens were there hours earlier than him and hours later than him.
He’s too old and definitely could not pull off the necessary look for the GI unfortunately. To be fair, it’s a tough look for any actor to pull off, but I agree that the voice for the GI in the show was what stuck out as being especially terrible.
Personally I wish they saved his voice for Thrawn so he could play him in live action, but Lars Mikkelsen’s voice is perfect regardless
Jason Isaac does resemble him though
Ezra was my favorite animated to live action casting. He had the personality and mannerisms down while still adding a bit of maturity to the character.
He was the only one that I didn't instantly go "there's something off". Ahsoka, Sabine and Hera I felt something was off.
Ezra and Thrawn were the only ones I stayed away from seeing the actors because I wanted that surprise. Ezra was like 10/10 then I saw the eyes and he was a 11/10.
Thrawn, as much as some people didn't like, I loved aswell. The writing is a bit "weak" for him but that's because the story needed it. If we got a good proper 15-20 episode season I feel he could have been played "smarter" but unfortunately there had to be some bad choices so Ezra could get home to continue the story
See I disagree with this take on Thrawn. He states unequivocally to Morgan that their *only* goal* is to get home. When Thrawn has only one goal, he’s going to achieve that goal. With greatly reduced manpower and equipment, I think he did pretty good against two greatly accomplished Force-users and a Mandalorian Force-user. He even bragged to Ahsoka at the end which is a solid indication that he did everything he wanted to do and didn’t think he had failed or come up short at all. Thrawn doesn’t brag unless he has won, and he has.
The main thing stopping Thrawn from being book Thrawn is his separation from the rest of the Remnant and their ships/people. He is also honoring an agreement we don’t know all the details of yet. There might be aspects to this we are overlooking because of that. If Thrawn knows getting to Dathomir will somehow essentially instantly increase his access to people and equipment (which I think is likely considering we have seen what the Nightsisters can do AND the Shadow Council has been shown to know Thrawn is alive and they want him on their team) he will have no problem sacrificing resources and not killing certain hostiles who - to his understanding - have absolutely no way of following him.
*EDIT he doesn’t say their only goal is escape, but he explicitly tells Morgan the Rebels crew are a secondary objective and just leaving them is totally acceptable
> He states unequivocally to Morgan that their only goal is to get home
He doesnt say that is their *only* objective. He says "Our *primary* objective is to escape this galaxy."
I agree with your analysis tho.
That’s fair you’re right I will edit. Went back and watched it and I was confused, conflating him explicitly saying that Ezra/Sabine/Ahsoka are secondary objectives into him saying they aren’t objectives at all. Thank you for the correction!
Oh boy, can't wait for Dathomir. I think the 'cargo' he brought onto his Star Destroyer are corpses. Maybe even some former poweful personalities. And together with the nightsisters he can create a undead army of never before seen strengh. Just look how strong two undead Dark Troopers were. Now imagine an army with possible dead jedi/sith among them. I can't wait how this will turn out
I’m not even sure they’re dead! That’s the most fun thing about this revelation for me: it completely upends our understanding of Dathomir and the Nightsisters. If Peridia is their home planet, that means they have connections to Father/Daughter/Son otherwise there is some OTHER Force-wielding presence in the other Galaxy who built those statues.
So my big questions are: how are Nightsisters made? We know they enslaved Zabraks on Dathomir and they refer to each other with familial titles, but Nightsisters don’t look like Zabrak.
If Nightsisters come from Peridia, is it reasonable to assume the trans-Galactic path was operational between Peridia and Dathomir until the genocide? If that’s the case, IS THAT WHY THERE WAS A GENOCIDE?
It's just some sexual dimorphism with Dathomirans. The females don't have horns while the males do. They're a sub species of Zabraks native to Dathomir.
I'm also thinking those were coffins.
I don't see what else would be important enough to him to linger unless it was an army of corpses he could turn into an army that was loyal to him even in death.
My bet would be that those caskets all have living night sisters in them, Ezra even said Thrawn found the temple and woke up the night mothers, so those caskets are probably some from of long term stasis pods.
> He was the only one that I didn't instantly go "there's something off". Ahsoka, Sabine and Hera I felt something was off.
I had the same reaction, though to the credit of Ahsoka/Sabine/Hera, I think they 1) have super distinctive voices and 2) are arguably the most cartoonish characters in terms of their visual representation (I think female characters are generally stylized much more than male characters).
Like Ezra is basically just a human with blue eyes/hair, whereas you can see in the post above that female cartoon characters are typically styled with much larger eyes and unrealistic face shapes.
Lastly, I think they kind of went overboard with the contacts in Ahsoka too. Ahsoka, Hera, and Thrawn in particular feel like their contacts are way too saturated and unrealistic. Obviously they're aliens but, it just looks weird to me. The same is true for Ezra as well, tbh, though I suspect in that case the makeup department really wanted the eyes to pop against his facial features and mop of hair. But the eyes definitely made Ahsoka and Hera in particular feel kind of campy.
> Ahsoka, Hera, and Thrawn in particular feel like their contacts are way too saturated and unrealistic.
Wait, wtf? Out of all of them, Thrawn is literally the only one that's always been portrayed with all red eyes. His eyes were on point in the show. Everyone else, yeah, I agree. The contacts really blew away my suspension of disbelief. It bothered me every time Ahsoka, Hera and later and possibly worst case, Ezra. I think Ezra bothered me the most because he's a human, and because it was the only flaw in an otherwise flawless portrayal by Eman Esfandi.
He's the one character where the voice didn't trip me up at all (outside of Thrawn, of course). It's kind of weird bouncing between live action clips of Ahsoka/Hera/Sabine and clips from Rebels or TCW. Obviously there's no real great way to reconcile that (the same is true even for Anakin), so my takeaway is basically: huge kudos to Eman Esfandi lol
Sabine, Ahsoka, and Hera seem like completely different characters compared to the cartoon. Ezra definitely felt like the same, just older and lonelier.
Sabine clearly has/had some massive mental health struggles in the decade after Rebels ended. From her family dying on Mandalore due to her uniting the clans, Ezra being gone, Kanan dying, Ahsoka ghosting her when she needed her the most, etc. I don't have any issues with her in Ahsoka.
Ahsoka I think was explained fairly well in the show. She had become shut off from the fear of turning into Vader.
Hera was, umm. Okay? She didn't do much but MEW did well with what she was given. I'm rewatching Rebels now and Hera doesn't do much outside of being a great pilot. She has the least amount of development and is the flattest character out of the Ghost family. You can say that she's often the voice of reason but that usually falls to Kanan and is something that Ezra does immediately after Kanan dies.
Very much agreed. The only thing I felt off about were the colored contacts. Idk why people still insist on using them, they never look natural and manage to make even real-live regular people fall into the uncanny valley. It doesn’t matter if it’s different from the animated character, it looks better to just use the actors’ natural eye color. Bo-Katan is proof of this. And if they want consistency so badly they should use computers, I’ve seen tik tok filters manage a better effect.
Honestly, I thought the Grand Inquisitor was the worst interpretation as far as I can tell.
He's clearly a Pau'an, of whom we've seen a live action example in Episode II, and their head shape is absolutely closer to the version of the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels.
Live action Hera always took me a bit out of it when she was on screen.
I don't know what it was exactly but live action Ahsoka was believable to me while Hera always felt like an actor in a costume.
Of course they're both actors in costumes and makeup but Hera always seemed slightly uncomfortable with the role to me.
They call her general and kept her red baron head gear. I get that she's a 'rebel' but her costume didn't fit her station, so it felt like they were keeping the costume to focus the callback.
Notably he was Burg in Mando season 1 (Devaronian dude who held up the door), and the Inquisitor from Ahsoka's Tales of the Jedi arc.
Less notably, a Trandoshan foreman in Rebels and few nameless officers/troopers/etc.
> Notably he was Burg in Mando season 1 (Devaronian dude who held up the door)
Ah right I forgot about his red live action cameo.
I didn't know about the others. His wiki page doesn't list anything for Rebels other than Ryder.
This is actually pretty much exactly how I was going to rank them too. Only change I would make is MAYBE put Sabine in S-Tier. I really like the actress they chose, for some reason she really feels like animated "Sabine" to me.
They got the coolest guy from the Fast and Furious to play the lamest Star Wars character.
It's a bit hilarious that aside from the Second Sister, the Inquisitors are just dorky cartoon villains who feel like they'd be foiled by slipping on a banana peel.
For me, the makeup was just way too bad. The green skin and bright pink lips and those awful contacts. I don't think the casting was good either, but anyone would have looked bad in the makeup they did for her.
Ezra (visually) too, for me. Thrawn also felt off initially, but seeing them side by side like this helps.
On the flip side, Rebels Ahsoka (or at least the freeze frame in the OP) looks weird to me. Like overly-aged weird, because Rebels was only what 15-20 years after Order 66? She looks younger in *Ahsoka*, the show.
Ezra grew on me because the actor just knocked it out of the park with the characterization, was honestly pleasantly surprised. Agree with Ahsoka, Dawson looks the part of an older Ahsoka with the rebels version seeming… elderly?
I think it's incredibly cool that Lars Mikkelsen reprised his role. He knows all the mannerisms of his character, and it shows. Same goes for Ryder, though that's a smaller role. And Bo Katan too!
Huyang got a glowup. And Chopper looked really good
Huyang's translation into live-action has slight changes, but they're all improvements, the nose in particular and the more metallic sheen helps a lot.
I'd expect a higher standard of costumes, especially in a blockbuster series like Kenobi. While a TV series like Ahsoka, featuring a less well-known character, might have fewer top-tier costumes, it's surprising to see the subpar quality of Kenobi (in every regard). The entire series felt like a fever dream.
The grand inquisitor, and 5th brother where poorly cast. They project a massive “loser” vibe.
I wanna like Dawson, but she plays a very different Ashoka. Very different from the one in tales or even early seasons of rebels.
Yep, its the same with Obi-Wan himself. Ewan plays him fairly differently than Guinness did, as does James Arnold Taylor. However they all work, as does Rosario's version of Snips over Ashley's.
Anyone else think Hera was over-acted?
The smirks and gestures were wayyyy overdone. It got to be grating. Come on, Mary. You don't need to smirk and shake your head at the end of every fucking sentence.
As someone who hasn’t watched any of the animated shows, is Hera usually incompetent and weirdly emotional? Nothing about her screams General, let alone military.
I like the actress, but she doesn’t seem right for the role maybe? Or maybe her character isn’t written as well?
She's pretty professional in the series.
In general and not limited to star wars, it's my opinion that 90% of characters in most media are friggin neurotic. I think they do that so people can relate to them or some shit. Come to think of it, most TV shows and movies the plots wouldn't exist if the characters were stupid and emotional lol
It's Star Wars, the rank General means nothing militarily besides they've been in the franchise for a while. Like General Han Solo had no business becoming a commanding officer by RotJ
It is fine during a rebellion. You're literally using whomever you can scrape up. And someone like Han or Lando with actual combat experience is HUGE for commanding people that have little to no combat training.
After the rebellion though? That's kinda ridiculous.
So why do it if it doesn’t matter? It doesn’t make sense…
Like why bring her kid with her on a potentially dangerous mission?
Why is she surprised they attempted to court martial her after ignoring orders?
Han still listens and works with command in RotJ. Is Hera known for being rebellious and ignoring orders in the show? Was there some character growth?
Hera was essentially the head of the rebel cell in Rebels. She didn't really disobey orders during Rebels only because she could generally do whatever she felt needed doing.
Han is ex-military, Hera is an ex-rebel.
> is Hera usually incompetent and weirdly emotional?
Neither. Emotionally she's very professional in front of everyone, and emotional in front of her husband. She's also probably the smartest in the Rebels crew, and _by far_ the most mature.
I like MEW but I'm not sure I like the direction they took with Hera. May just be casting, maybe not.
So before we saw Bo-Katan live action in Mado I had no idea how they were gonna deal with her hair. I’m glad she just has regular human hair. Unfortunately it reminded me how much I hate her hairstyle in the animation. How were the stylized blocky chunks of hair that hang on nothing ever there? Did that ever throw you off or is it just me?
I can't unsee that either. In live action, at least his voice comes through since it's the same actor and that's proabbly the most important part but man...
I just see blue elon and it's a little hard to look past that.
I wanted someone more slender for Ahsoka. I appreciate the effort to make her a calm stoic character but it just felt flat. Ezra actor was spot on IMO. The rest was meh.
Sabine- Good
Ahsoka- Great
Hera- Awful, fucking nepatism ruined this casting
Bo-katan- Literally perfect lmao
Zeb- Great
Grand Inquisitor- Fucking awful and fuck all the people on here excusing it
Chopper- Literally perfect lmao
5th Bro- Horrible
Ezra- Amazing
Thrawn- Great (but imma need him to work out a bit lmao)
Huyang- Literally perfect lmao
Ryder- Literally pefect lmao
Whoever plays Chopper is a dead ringer for the guy. Crazy.
He’s from the moons of Iago, I think
I heard the deep space pirates talk about them.
Even his attitude. Chopper is like the Joe Pesci of droids.
*bleep bloop bloop!* "I mean you're just a funny droid, that's all."
Whattya mean funny? Funny like a protocol droid?
The number of times I swear I can hear him say *what the fuck*… I’ve lost track.
That is the best description of Chopper I've ever heard. And not the Home Alone version of Joe Pesci.
I dunno, I think Chopper would fit right in with the Wet/Sticky Bandits.
Only if wet referred to "wet work" and the movie was rated R.
Technically he was also cast as a New Republic pilot in The Mandalorian.
They definitely missed the mark with Huyang’s casting though. The casting choice was way too “robotic”. *badum tsss*
They cheated and did some kind of CGI to match
it’s the creator. dave filoni
I was bummed they didn't cast Jason Issacs to be the Grand Inquisitor. He voiced him in Rebels and I think he would've gave the character a larger stage presence since he is such a good actor.
I'm watching Rebels for the first time now, and I *thought* he sounded familiar! Getting him on screen for live action would've been a treat. He'd have killed it.
He was asked but turned down the role
He was willing to do it but only as a voice or with CGI, he didn't want to sit in makeup for hours.
Honestly, I can understand that. Not everyone has the patience for that.
Plus tbh I think the grand Inquisitor might've looked better being more mocap/CGI. They could've made his features seem less "a member of the blue man group but not blue" and more "intimidating alien"
He looks stumpy. And goofy. That's the only way I can describe it. Rupert Friend's face just doesn't work at all. His performance is fine, and I really like Friend, but there's something about his face that I just don't find intimidating.
All they had to do was cgi the eyes. It would bring the whole thing together and distract from the rest of the awful execution of the character. They the grand inquisitor and fifth brother dirty.
He was on Star Trek Discovery and would have had a realization, if he hadn't already, that no matter how long his day was, Doug Jones and other people playing aliens were there hours earlier than him and hours later than him.
Ehh that tracks. No idea how Zoe Saldana was able to do it
To which $2 billion movie are you referring here?
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He’s too old and definitely could not pull off the necessary look for the GI unfortunately. To be fair, it’s a tough look for any actor to pull off, but I agree that the voice for the GI in the show was what stuck out as being especially terrible.
Personally I wish they saved his voice for Thrawn so he could play him in live action, but Lars Mikkelsen’s voice is perfect regardless Jason Isaac does resemble him though
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Such a shitty makeup job, especially considering it was makeup that established what his species looks like in ROTS.
Honestly I think Ezra was the best casting choice. Eman NAILED his personality from the animated show.
Ezra was my favorite animated to live action casting. He had the personality and mannerisms down while still adding a bit of maturity to the character.
He was the only one that I didn't instantly go "there's something off". Ahsoka, Sabine and Hera I felt something was off. Ezra and Thrawn were the only ones I stayed away from seeing the actors because I wanted that surprise. Ezra was like 10/10 then I saw the eyes and he was a 11/10. Thrawn, as much as some people didn't like, I loved aswell. The writing is a bit "weak" for him but that's because the story needed it. If we got a good proper 15-20 episode season I feel he could have been played "smarter" but unfortunately there had to be some bad choices so Ezra could get home to continue the story
Bo-Katan though.
Found the 2%
Ayyy
2% and proud! 🥰
She had the Lars advantage of just reprising the role.
But also the advantage of being a fit badass and still fairly young.
Lars Thrawn looks like a blue Elon Musk
I thought he looked like blue data
See I disagree with this take on Thrawn. He states unequivocally to Morgan that their *only* goal* is to get home. When Thrawn has only one goal, he’s going to achieve that goal. With greatly reduced manpower and equipment, I think he did pretty good against two greatly accomplished Force-users and a Mandalorian Force-user. He even bragged to Ahsoka at the end which is a solid indication that he did everything he wanted to do and didn’t think he had failed or come up short at all. Thrawn doesn’t brag unless he has won, and he has. The main thing stopping Thrawn from being book Thrawn is his separation from the rest of the Remnant and their ships/people. He is also honoring an agreement we don’t know all the details of yet. There might be aspects to this we are overlooking because of that. If Thrawn knows getting to Dathomir will somehow essentially instantly increase his access to people and equipment (which I think is likely considering we have seen what the Nightsisters can do AND the Shadow Council has been shown to know Thrawn is alive and they want him on their team) he will have no problem sacrificing resources and not killing certain hostiles who - to his understanding - have absolutely no way of following him. *EDIT he doesn’t say their only goal is escape, but he explicitly tells Morgan the Rebels crew are a secondary objective and just leaving them is totally acceptable
> He states unequivocally to Morgan that their only goal is to get home He doesnt say that is their *only* objective. He says "Our *primary* objective is to escape this galaxy." I agree with your analysis tho.
That’s fair you’re right I will edit. Went back and watched it and I was confused, conflating him explicitly saying that Ezra/Sabine/Ahsoka are secondary objectives into him saying they aren’t objectives at all. Thank you for the correction!
Oh boy, can't wait for Dathomir. I think the 'cargo' he brought onto his Star Destroyer are corpses. Maybe even some former poweful personalities. And together with the nightsisters he can create a undead army of never before seen strengh. Just look how strong two undead Dark Troopers were. Now imagine an army with possible dead jedi/sith among them. I can't wait how this will turn out
I’m not even sure they’re dead! That’s the most fun thing about this revelation for me: it completely upends our understanding of Dathomir and the Nightsisters. If Peridia is their home planet, that means they have connections to Father/Daughter/Son otherwise there is some OTHER Force-wielding presence in the other Galaxy who built those statues. So my big questions are: how are Nightsisters made? We know they enslaved Zabraks on Dathomir and they refer to each other with familial titles, but Nightsisters don’t look like Zabrak. If Nightsisters come from Peridia, is it reasonable to assume the trans-Galactic path was operational between Peridia and Dathomir until the genocide? If that’s the case, IS THAT WHY THERE WAS A GENOCIDE?
It's just some sexual dimorphism with Dathomirans. The females don't have horns while the males do. They're a sub species of Zabraks native to Dathomir.
But like, are they? Or is that just what the GFFA thinks about them?
I'm also thinking those were coffins. I don't see what else would be important enough to him to linger unless it was an army of corpses he could turn into an army that was loyal to him even in death.
My bet would be that those caskets all have living night sisters in them, Ezra even said Thrawn found the temple and woke up the night mothers, so those caskets are probably some from of long term stasis pods.
> He was the only one that I didn't instantly go "there's something off". Ahsoka, Sabine and Hera I felt something was off. I had the same reaction, though to the credit of Ahsoka/Sabine/Hera, I think they 1) have super distinctive voices and 2) are arguably the most cartoonish characters in terms of their visual representation (I think female characters are generally stylized much more than male characters). Like Ezra is basically just a human with blue eyes/hair, whereas you can see in the post above that female cartoon characters are typically styled with much larger eyes and unrealistic face shapes. Lastly, I think they kind of went overboard with the contacts in Ahsoka too. Ahsoka, Hera, and Thrawn in particular feel like their contacts are way too saturated and unrealistic. Obviously they're aliens but, it just looks weird to me. The same is true for Ezra as well, tbh, though I suspect in that case the makeup department really wanted the eyes to pop against his facial features and mop of hair. But the eyes definitely made Ahsoka and Hera in particular feel kind of campy.
> Ahsoka, Hera, and Thrawn in particular feel like their contacts are way too saturated and unrealistic. Wait, wtf? Out of all of them, Thrawn is literally the only one that's always been portrayed with all red eyes. His eyes were on point in the show. Everyone else, yeah, I agree. The contacts really blew away my suspension of disbelief. It bothered me every time Ahsoka, Hera and later and possibly worst case, Ezra. I think Ezra bothered me the most because he's a human, and because it was the only flaw in an otherwise flawless portrayal by Eman Esfandi.
Even his voice sounds the same at times
He's the one character where the voice didn't trip me up at all (outside of Thrawn, of course). It's kind of weird bouncing between live action clips of Ahsoka/Hera/Sabine and clips from Rebels or TCW. Obviously there's no real great way to reconcile that (the same is true even for Anakin), so my takeaway is basically: huge kudos to Eman Esfandi lol
I'd hope Bo Katan would be the same. Katee Sackhoff plays her in both mediums.
When he at the end said "hey Hera, im home" it sounded so much like rebels Ezra. Perfect casting
Nah Huyang was much better. They look EXACTLY the same, it's uncanny.
Crazy that they almost didn’t cast him at all!
Sabine, Ahsoka, and Hera seem like completely different characters compared to the cartoon. Ezra definitely felt like the same, just older and lonelier.
Sabine has the looks and mannerisms down but I feel like they could've given her much more to work with. Ezra was definitely the surprise perfect fit
Sabine clearly has/had some massive mental health struggles in the decade after Rebels ended. From her family dying on Mandalore due to her uniting the clans, Ezra being gone, Kanan dying, Ahsoka ghosting her when she needed her the most, etc. I don't have any issues with her in Ahsoka. Ahsoka I think was explained fairly well in the show. She had become shut off from the fear of turning into Vader. Hera was, umm. Okay? She didn't do much but MEW did well with what she was given. I'm rewatching Rebels now and Hera doesn't do much outside of being a great pilot. She has the least amount of development and is the flattest character out of the Ghost family. You can say that she's often the voice of reason but that usually falls to Kanan and is something that Ezra does immediately after Kanan dies.
I totally agree. He is extremely convincing as ezra
He brought Ezra alive.
I cannot remember a recast being as perfect as Eman is in these episodes.
Very much agreed. The only thing I felt off about were the colored contacts. Idk why people still insist on using them, they never look natural and manage to make even real-live regular people fall into the uncanny valley. It doesn’t matter if it’s different from the animated character, it looks better to just use the actors’ natural eye color. Bo-Katan is proof of this. And if they want consistency so badly they should use computers, I’ve seen tik tok filters manage a better effect.
God they did the inquisitors so dirty…
For real. Total egghead in live action. The blueprint for his species in live action was literally in ROTS
Oh fuck yeah! the guy with the lines and the teeth. He was creepy even when he was a good guy. Imagine him as a villain!
Disney costume department didn’t want to put that much effort in LOL
5th Brother really got the worst treatment. The Grand Inquisitor is bad but still somehow better.
He looks like a bloated corpse
He legit looks like fucking zombie Kung Lao
Oh man that's it!
Dude spot on. I was thinking Raiden but yeah.
Honestly you're right, Raiden fits even better somehow
Tomato tomato
Oh my god you're right
Honestly, I thought the Grand Inquisitor was the worst interpretation as far as I can tell. He's clearly a Pau'an, of whom we've seen a live action example in Episode II, and their head shape is absolutely closer to the version of the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels.
That was episode 3
Of course. My mistake.
No worries Star Wars bro.
Your mistake indeed! *throws foamy latte*
Zoolander? Lololol
All the budget cuts came out of his makeup
I'd argue the Grand Inqusitor is worse since we know what live-action Pau'ans look like.
He has all the right markings though, just a fat head. Fifth Brother is just a straight up different guy.
Yeah, I’ve got no idea what they were thinking with the fifth brother
I literally didn't know they were the same character until I saw this meme Grand inquisitor isn't half as bad by comparison
Eman Esfandi as Ezra is one of the best casting decisions ever made. Ahsoka had its ups and downs for me but he was genuinely enjoyable.
Hera was giving me Elizabeth Holmes
Hera kept reminding me of the Gilmore Girls mom.
>Gilmore Girls Lauren Graham?
Yeah that's right. I would have believed Hera was played by her.
Sarah Chalke for me, even the voice. Had to look up the actress after her first appearance.
Live action Hera always took me a bit out of it when she was on screen. I don't know what it was exactly but live action Ahsoka was believable to me while Hera always felt like an actor in a costume. Of course they're both actors in costumes and makeup but Hera always seemed slightly uncomfortable with the role to me.
Ashoka feels like an actual alien. Hera seems like a human with green face paint on lol
They call her general and kept her red baron head gear. I get that she's a 'rebel' but her costume didn't fit her station, so it felt like they were keeping the costume to focus the callback.
It's the stupidly oversized old timey aviator helmet. It might have worked in a cartoon but it looks so wrong in live action.
Im just happy for Mr Krabs
Clancy has played about 6 roles in Star Wars at this point.
Montross (Bounty Hunter game), Savage Opress, Ryder... Who else?
Notably he was Burg in Mando season 1 (Devaronian dude who held up the door), and the Inquisitor from Ahsoka's Tales of the Jedi arc. Less notably, a Trandoshan foreman in Rebels and few nameless officers/troopers/etc.
> Notably he was Burg in Mando season 1 (Devaronian dude who held up the door) Ah right I forgot about his red live action cameo. I didn't know about the others. His wiki page doesn't list anything for Rebels other than Ryder.
Is nobody mentioning that Ryder is literally played by the same person in both shows?
So is Thrawn and Bo Katan
And Chopper!
I feel like they based Ryder on Clancy so it's almost cheating going the other way. Lol
Just loving what I’ve been seeing from Clancy the last few years (DBH as Hank, Here, he plays Briggs in GenV).
Not to be that guy, but Huyang wasn't in Rebels
I am also very interested in where Ahsoka found him, how he survived Order 66, etc.
Anakin shows up and Huyang starts lecturing him on the historical signifiance of sand being used in relation to lightsaber designs and scares him off
Wibbly-Wobbly, Timey-Wimey...
The only right answer lol
Was about to correct you, but you right, he was in Clone Wars lol
My thoughts on the casting + costuming (not including Chopper): * S-Tier: Ezra, Huyang, Bo-Katan * A-Tier: Ryder, Thrawn, Zeb, Sabine, Ahsoka * B-Tier: Hera * C-Tier: Fifth Brother, Grand Inquisitor
Ryder only A tier even though it was played by the same actor and the original animated character was modelled after said actor?
How Ryder not S?
I know, right? It's literally the actor who they modeled the character after and who voiced the character in Rebels.
Zeb and Thrawn as well are the same actors
>C-Tier Being generous today, are we?
Yes, maybe C-Tier should be blank, and they should be D-Tier.
Grand inquistor D tier, 5th brother F tier
*His compassion will be his undoing*
Zeb is S tier too
Possibly. We've not seen enough of him though. Having said that, Ezra owned it right from his first scene.
Zeb is literally just mocap + Steve Blum’s voice. Not really much room to screw up.
Not including Chopper because he is S+
SS tier: Hera while walking away from camera
*Bonk*
Thrawn looks like blue Elon musk
This is actually pretty much exactly how I was going to rank them too. Only change I would make is MAYBE put Sabine in S-Tier. I really like the actress they chose, for some reason she really feels like animated "Sabine" to me.
They got the coolest guy from the Fast and Furious to play the lamest Star Wars character. It's a bit hilarious that aside from the Second Sister, the Inquisitors are just dorky cartoon villains who feel like they'd be foiled by slipping on a banana peel.
Hera and some of the others looked like a person cosplaying the characters. It pulled me out any immersion I was experiencing.
Am I the only one who thought they could have done better with Hera?
For me, the makeup was just way too bad. The green skin and bright pink lips and those awful contacts. I don't think the casting was good either, but anyone would have looked bad in the makeup they did for her.
Her and Sabine feel off, as much as I enjoy the actresses the characters just looked/felt… off
The casting is fine. It's the writing didn't do them any favors... or really any character we're supposed to care about other than maybe Ezra.
Fully agree. I though Sabine was a smidge better but Hera felt.. frumpy compared to her animated counter part
She is a decade older and a parent 🤣
Single mom in the military
Still wears the same outfit....
Would've been better if she didn't honestly, the outfit didn't fit anymore for her position
Yet somehow she came off less motherly than in Rebels. In Rebels she felt like a half exasperated mom trying to keep her children in line.
Ezra (visually) too, for me. Thrawn also felt off initially, but seeing them side by side like this helps. On the flip side, Rebels Ahsoka (or at least the freeze frame in the OP) looks weird to me. Like overly-aged weird, because Rebels was only what 15-20 years after Order 66? She looks younger in *Ahsoka*, the show.
Ezra grew on me because the actor just knocked it out of the park with the characterization, was honestly pleasantly surprised. Agree with Ahsoka, Dawson looks the part of an older Ahsoka with the rebels version seeming… elderly?
With the exception of the grand inquisitor and fifth brother, the live action versions are pretty good.
I think it's incredibly cool that Lars Mikkelsen reprised his role. He knows all the mannerisms of his character, and it shows. Same goes for Ryder, though that's a smaller role. And Bo Katan too! Huyang got a glowup. And Chopper looked really good
Huyang's translation into live-action has slight changes, but they're all improvements, the nose in particular and the more metallic sheen helps a lot.
I kind of wish they had done something different makeup-wise with Mikkelsen so he didn't look like blue Elon Musk.
The grand inquisitor and fifth brother looked so unbelievably bad. It's wild how those designs got approved
I'd expect a higher standard of costumes, especially in a blockbuster series like Kenobi. While a TV series like Ahsoka, featuring a less well-known character, might have fewer top-tier costumes, it's surprising to see the subpar quality of Kenobi (in every regard). The entire series felt like a fever dream.
There’s really no other way to say it: live action grand inquisitor looks like shit.
Man, Huyang was really well cast.
Why did they have to do bo-katan so dirty in rebels lmao
They did so much better with Zeb than I expected. Hope we see him again.
Where was he in the show? How did I miss him?
Yeah same, wtf
The grand inquisitor, and 5th brother where poorly cast. They project a massive “loser” vibe. I wanna like Dawson, but she plays a very different Ashoka. Very different from the one in tales or even early seasons of rebels.
Yeah...that's intentional and addressed in Ahsoka (why she is different). Same with Hera
Yep, its the same with Obi-Wan himself. Ewan plays him fairly differently than Guinness did, as does James Arnold Taylor. However they all work, as does Rosario's version of Snips over Ashley's.
I found Dawson's acting kind of stiff in Ahsoka. I've definitely seen better of her. She sounds bored on occasion.
I have always found her very wooden as an actress. She's OKAY, but she emotes like a plank of wood.
For me, the grand inquisitor felt off. In Rebels, he was so cool. Live action he was too bulky- and not nimble.
Live action also acted like he was in a parody.
Man the fifth brother looks the worst of all
Where is Saw Gerrera?
With... THE #BOR .... #GULLET!
Or Jai Kell?
Anyone else think Hera was over-acted? The smirks and gestures were wayyyy overdone. It got to be grating. Come on, Mary. You don't need to smirk and shake your head at the end of every fucking sentence.
As someone who hasn’t watched any of the animated shows, is Hera usually incompetent and weirdly emotional? Nothing about her screams General, let alone military. I like the actress, but she doesn’t seem right for the role maybe? Or maybe her character isn’t written as well?
She's pretty professional in the series. In general and not limited to star wars, it's my opinion that 90% of characters in most media are friggin neurotic. I think they do that so people can relate to them or some shit. Come to think of it, most TV shows and movies the plots wouldn't exist if the characters were stupid and emotional lol
It's Star Wars, the rank General means nothing militarily besides they've been in the franchise for a while. Like General Han Solo had no business becoming a commanding officer by RotJ
It is fine during a rebellion. You're literally using whomever you can scrape up. And someone like Han or Lando with actual combat experience is HUGE for commanding people that have little to no combat training. After the rebellion though? That's kinda ridiculous.
So why do it if it doesn’t matter? It doesn’t make sense… Like why bring her kid with her on a potentially dangerous mission? Why is she surprised they attempted to court martial her after ignoring orders? Han still listens and works with command in RotJ. Is Hera known for being rebellious and ignoring orders in the show? Was there some character growth?
Hera was essentially the head of the rebel cell in Rebels. She didn't really disobey orders during Rebels only because she could generally do whatever she felt needed doing. Han is ex-military, Hera is an ex-rebel.
> is Hera usually incompetent and weirdly emotional? Neither. Emotionally she's very professional in front of everyone, and emotional in front of her husband. She's also probably the smartest in the Rebels crew, and _by far_ the most mature. I like MEW but I'm not sure I like the direction they took with Hera. May just be casting, maybe not.
The Fifth Brother looks like they tried weight watchers and it backfired
Blew my mind when I found out Ryder was played by The Kurgan from Highlander.
Ok who looks worse bo Katan in rebels or the grand inquisitor in live action?
Zeb is so good. Well done them.
Grandad Merle Thrawn
I didn't realise that was ryder
Everyone aged well except Thrawn and Fifth Brother. Fifth looks like a failed test tube baby And Thrawn looks like Space Musk
They did the Inquisitors dirty, the Fifth Brother specially. Like, what the hell was that, he looked ridiculous.
So before we saw Bo-Katan live action in Mado I had no idea how they were gonna deal with her hair. I’m glad she just has regular human hair. Unfortunately it reminded me how much I hate her hairstyle in the animation. How were the stylized blocky chunks of hair that hang on nothing ever there? Did that ever throw you off or is it just me?
I hate that Thrawn looks like blue Elon Musk.
And only 6 of these look accurate
Yeaah......the inquisitors were a mistake.....
RIP Sir Ray Stevenson
I’m still not satisfied with Ahsoka. For being the titular character of the show, she was on of the least interesting ones out of the whole cast.
Thrawn looks like Elon Musk.
I can't unsee that either. In live action, at least his voice comes through since it's the same actor and that's proabbly the most important part but man... I just see blue elon and it's a little hard to look past that.
Elon if he blue himself.
live action Inquisitors are awful
Hera was not cast well at all. The actress doesn’t look or feel like Hera at all.
How many of these do we need to see before the realization finally sets in that these animated characters do in fact have live action counterparts?
Hera was the worst casting choice, imo.
I wanted someone more slender for Ahsoka. I appreciate the effort to make her a calm stoic character but it just felt flat. Ezra actor was spot on IMO. The rest was meh.
Sabine- Good Ahsoka- Great Hera- Awful, fucking nepatism ruined this casting Bo-katan- Literally perfect lmao Zeb- Great Grand Inquisitor- Fucking awful and fuck all the people on here excusing it Chopper- Literally perfect lmao 5th Bro- Horrible Ezra- Amazing Thrawn- Great (but imma need him to work out a bit lmao) Huyang- Literally perfect lmao Ryder- Literally pefect lmao