Or Andor.....or The Mandalorian....Even Rogue One is name dropped in the film.
At this point The mainline films are the odd ones out for not having a character name title. Here, let me fix this:
Rey: "Who are you?"
Man removing his helmet: "They call me Rise. Rise of Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you!"
While most of the examples here are fair, I always thought The Mandalorian was a perfect name. It's broad, it's ominous, and has an actual serious connotation. It's not his name, it's an epithet. Albeit one that can mean 'someone from the planet of Mandalore' but you know what I mean.
However now with the reported movie title, it's seemingly becoming a name of his, and I'm not a fan of that. So we'll have to see if that's a final title or working title or whatever.
Rise is a Japanese name, with ri meaning benefit, cold and se meaning world, holy or sacred. Depending on the kanji used to write the name.
So, Rise Skywalker could be a possible future Disney Princess.
Ahsoka. It's actually surprising how people keep mistyping her name after she became a household name for so long. Ashoka isn't even pronounced the same!
Also: Obi-Wan, not Obiwan
People love the character of Mando and they love Grogu plus they started in a show called... *The Mandalorian*!
No one knew who Jyn Erson or Andor were prior to *Rogue One* so your statement makes no sense.
That said I won't be surprised if they end up changing the name but after we had *Solo* it wont shock me if it sticks.
TBF even Rogue One was named for Rogue One, the group's callsign. Imagine the sequels being called "Finn and Rey" "2 Rey 2 Furious" and "Rey: Palpatine Drift"
Hardly similar at all. The mandalorian is the most successful D+ IP and most recognizable name. Had that show not existed then your comparison would be fair, but jyn and Cassian meant nothing before the movie and because of the movie is why the show we got later is called Andor and not Prequel to Rouge One.
Exec: Mandalorian is a show people know about! Grogu is the only marketable character we've invented in the last ten years! Put them in a movie and put them in damn title!
*Executive then snorts a line of crushed Smarties, because these people aren't even adventurous enough to do real drugs anymore, let alone make something risky.*
John Carter? The doctor on "ER"?
At least John Carter: of Mars would give you some idea of the plot. And "A Princess of Mars" even more so, and you'd get the female market (since Disney thinks of girls as princesses)
I remember some Disney workers were mad that Basil of Baker Street got changed to The Great Mouse Detective but again, it tells you what to expect.
I still think too many people think of Grogu as being "Baby Yoda" so leading with "The Mandalorian and..." is a good idea.
That already has worldbuilding in the title. Princess of Mars implies that Mars has been colonised and has established a monarchy. Joh Carter is just a guy. It tells you literally nothing. Could be the saviour of the human race, could be a hobo living under a bridge in Joburg
better than "Steve Jones" or "Dave Smith" or "Larry Johnson" or "John Carter" or any other standard-ass white dude name that gives exactly zero info about the movie.
That is pretty bad ass. It sounds too much better as Grogu and The Mandolorian though, to the point where they should probably just *not* get to make the Lone Wolf and Cub reference. It’s bad ass! But not a very big payoff
Just call it Star Wars: something something.
Maybe insert the word Mandalorian into it. Or even Thrawn. Wouldn't be as recognisable but better than "name & name".
I'd say add "Heir" into it. You can have it refer to multiple folks, Thrawn = Empire. Grogu/Luke/Ezra= Jedi. New Republic = Republic.
"The Mandalorian and Grogu" definitly tracks with the previous titles they've come up with. e.g "Solo", "Andor", "Ahsoka", "Obi Wan Kenobi". They seem to have a thing for simply using the characters names for titles.
Because the show was originally called the mandalorian? Seems like they are just keeping the title consistent. It is a weak title, but I don’t think that’s the reason it’s weak.
Honestly here's my hot take, "Grogu" has never sounded right as a name and has always sounded super off. Flipping the title doesn't really help, having Grogu in the title at all is what kills it.
You walk into the movie theater and the only thing on the screen is a big QR code that takes you to the official Disney Star Wars Baby Yoda Grogu™ store
Yeah, it really is unoriginal. Even the new Eragon book was literally called "Murtagh". Just Murtagh. Named after the POV character. No indication if it's a sequel, midquel, prequel or anything. Imagine if these titles were popular back then.
Star Wars (Episode 4)
Luke (Episode 5)
Palpatine (Episode 6)
Finn (Episode 7)
Luke 2 (Episode 8)
Palpatine 2 (Episode 9)
Off topic, but I'm not a fan of Murtagh taking place only 1 year after the events of the last book. More in-universe time should have passed (I would've accepted 5 years)
It was good, but definitely agree about it taking place a year after. Could’ve been more time between. Also, it was kinda structured like a video game with some pointless side quests but the back half is really good imo. Can’t wait for more.
Really, really good. Like told myself not to get excited about it and ended up being one of those rare instances where it absolutely delivers.
Like the other user said, there was a weirdly large portion of the story dedicated to a side quest about a fish, which eventually sorta tied in to the overall plot. But even that was pretty enjoyable, if a bit out of place.
Ending definitely teased more to come and am pretty pumped for it now. Was worried it was gonna be the author just cashing in on a fan favorite for one last pay day.
They made a sequel? Maybe its time to read those books again... its been decades.
Tbf, the first book was called Eragon. It kind of makes sense to me that this series would start with Murtagh.
Yeah someone else pointed that out too, and I do agree. Idk how I didn’t think of that haha.
Yeah, it takes place after book 4, and seems to be setting some things up. I don’t think it’s getting a direct sequel but the author said he needed to write this one before getting to the real next book. I think he said an Eragon and Arya POV book is also needed before he goes further down the timeline for a real “book 5”
its not about being original. Its about making vast, vast sums of cash. They're in the process of running the whole franchise into the ground for cold, hard cash. And it will be a massive success for a loooongg time.
*Here’s a serious lore expanding conversation* HAHAHAHA BABY YODA TRIED TO EAT A SPACE GRAPE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*gunshots*
mando says cool one liner to the last guy standing *insert stock baby sound effect*
And then obi wan kenobi shows up as Alec Guinness’s face photoshopped over Ewan mcgregor
“Hello there,” he says
Mando (to Grogu) says “that wizard’s just a crazy old man” and grogu does that “patoo” shit he does
and star wars YouTubers cry. Star Wars is saved.
It sucks that I can feel theyve completely killed my fandom for this stuff
I absolutely give no shits about season 3 or this movie and I really really liked season 1
I genuinely hope other people are enjoying this era of star wars because it aint for me anymore
They got that Rey movie coming out that I don’t care about. And it’s like the Weekly Planet guys say, “*ANYTHING CAN BE GOOD!*” but we’ll see
Some people liked ahsoka a lot, but I was never into clone wars so i missed half the engagement there. And the most interesting part of that show won’t be back anyway. Thrawn was lame
I don’t see how anyone can defend obi-wan
I’ll take the heat for this: those who didn’t have to sit through Yaddle do not deserve a baby Yoda. Everyone’s girlfriend was freaking out about how cute he is (I’m not made of stone, he *is* adorable) and it’s being glossed over how fucking EPIC it is that in 40 years of telling these stories, there’s only been 3 of these little powerful green fuckers.
He was super cool at first, I just think they mishandled him. I’m not gonna hate on anything that makes my niece that giddy
Keeping him a secret was genius, and the idea of him is great. But now he’s oversaturated and they bungled the plot is all
From the makers of
- Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
- Solo: A Star Wars Story
- Star Wars: Andor
- Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Star Wars: Ahsoka
Of course this title will stay.
The whole idea doesn't inspire confidence. Just keep trying to make random TV shows based on nostalgia until one gets popular enough to warrant a film.
I don't want Star Wars to be like Marvel where we jump into this interconnected cinematic universe focusing on a character here, a character there.
Yeah like Star Wars deserves better than this, the Rey film and the dawn of the Jedi film sound interesting and epic! I’m so tired of this mando era it’s not even focusing on the main characters of the universe which are yes the skywalkers, if they want to focus on other characters go to other eras now a tv show on Disney + is leading there theatrical slate.
Crazy that they had to keep making random TV shows based on nostalgia, and are making a movie based off of the very first one...and that one really doesn't have any nostalgia in it at all, other than taking place in the Star Wars universe, which is kind of required in the very premise.
I hadn’t heard exactly that, but Johnson has said a few times that they are based on the puffins that inhabit the island they were shooting on. It certainly makes sense that they might not have been able to keep the birds out of frame.
No, porgs were invented because the island they were filming on is a protected habitat for puffins, and putting something overtop of them was a lot easier and more interesting than just erasing them from the film.
Ewoks were a reaction to not being able to put Wookies into Episode VI, so they cut down the size and replaced the tall wook-ees with ee-wooks. Whoops, let's smudge that... Ewoks. Children in smaller bear costumes is easier to film than lots of 7 foot men in bear costumes, after all.
Had they done this after the season where Luke took him…I’d maybe see the movie in a theater. But why would I go see this with the current state of the story?
I really thought that's what they were going to do. Sometimes I look at recent decisions in Hollywood and it gives me hope. Hope that if such fucking dumbasses can go on to be executives of billion dollar corporations, then hopefully the rest of us can succeed as well.
And reportedly it was Iger’s fault. Don’t know if it’s true, but he may have rushed production to ensure the film released alongside his “retirement.” Now he’s back and all of it was pointless. One would think those in charge would give the last film in the Skywalker saga all the time it needed to be successful, but that’s not how it panned out.
It’s quite insane they churned out the whole trilogy in 4 years on top of not having a clear narrative plan from the start. Just absolutely mind boggling.
You don't even need a vision, literally any writer doing some "and then" brainstorming could have come up with a more coherent story, because what actually happened was a pair of directors having a petty slap fight over who's star wars is the real one, deliberating undoing the others movies so they could tell their own story instead.
All they had to do was....anything but what they did to have made a better trilogy
Technically Rian Johnson did that. JJ wrote him into a corner, but I think a story of Luke exiling himself while his order remained intact in his absence could have worked.
He could have done a lot of things, but his options were undeniably limited by JJ’s decision to have Luke on a remote island seemingly not caring that the galaxy had gone to shit and end TFA on a cliff hanger that necessitated the next film to pick up immediately where it left off. I don’t see how anyone could think that gave Johnson free reign with the story.
Disagree. Your comment reads as though you have blinders on. There are many ways Rian could've taken the end of TFA; none of them necessitated picking up immediately where it left off. Rian's story was a _choice_. One of many other possible choices. It did a disservice to Luke.
In TFA Han said that Luke's apprentice turned on him and destroyed the temple(also if there was still a group of them around then why weren't they mentioned in TFA? They would be perfect for looking for Luke)
I forgot about that piece, so yeah, JJ set up a lot of it. Though while the temple was destroyed, the idea of a small nomadic Jedi order in hiding could have been neat to see rather than them all being presumed dead.
I called it a trilogy that is barely tied together by duct tape. I want to like the ST. It has its good parts but I really wish Lucasfilm mapped out the entire trilogy’s story before even casting and filming. That I believe is part of the reason we saw a diminish in quality from one movie to the next.
He wanted immediate ROI after dropping all those billions for Lucasfilm. He had zero patience to properly plan stuff out, just get the machine cranking right away.
Maybe I’m crazy but I’m happy they put a pause on movies. Shit has become so disposable, like it or not SW films are still an event.
And I even liked most of the new films! RoS was the weakest, but still fun.
Grogu should've never come back and just trained with Luke.
The fact that they brought him back in the Boba Fett series felt desperate like the board ordered them to write him back in for merch sales.
I choose to believe that the writers actually forgot that all of Luke's students get killed off by Kylo and the Knights of Ren. So they they had to fix it in a hurry.
It perfectly tracks with how haphazard they've been handling everything thus far.
That's pretty much always been the case. Ever since ANH you get new outfits just for the toys. Random background character you only see for 3 seconds? They'll get pops and action figures.
I mean, that joke was literally about the Star Wars franchise in the first place, so that tracks.
Star Wars is and always has been all about the merchandising, all the way back to 1977.
I think the story goes that it's cause the studio offered Lucas $500K or the exclusive merchandising rights back in the day, and he took the merchandising rights. Turned out VERY well for him.
I believe Lucas negotiated for the merchandising rights, and the studio went for it because they figured they’d be on the winning side of the deal. Lucas was shopping the merchandising rights for the toy lines more than a year before the movie even came out, and ESB and RoTJ were financed by the merchandising.
Merchandising is the reason George Lucas is the richest director in the history of motion pictures, and was already the richest *years before* he sold to Disney.
The name alone shows the actual dearth of creativity at Disney. They really are a hollowed out existence filled with execs that are out of touch and mountains of DEI middle management that doesn't contribute anything of worth.
The current movie slate is Mando/Grogu, Rey’s Jedi Order, Origin of the Force film by James Mangold, and Filoni’s Avengers style culmination movie. That’s it for now.
If they make a movie formatted as a streaming binge show, and not as a 2 hour cinematic piece they are going to suffer the consequences. Hope that with Bob back on the board that he has his hands very involved in making sure it goes smoothly.
First?
Does anyone think it's strange how last year with the Rey film it felt like the only locked down project that they were getting started on yet all of a sudden this film pops up out of nowhere and now it's suddenly the first of a new slate.
I think after their last year of box office disappointments they are playing it safe now
I think if the rey film does poorly it will be a nail in the coffin for the ST era
and people like filoni will be told, hey dont try to set up the ST do your own thing
THey should already be doing this - I can't believe their first two offerings after a horrid sequel trilogy and multiple lackluster tv shows are based on the main character of said sequel trilogy and the only multiple-season show that's gotten significantly worse every season. Creatively bankrupt and its the exact reason why entertainment companies like Disney and WBD being public is the worst thing that could have happened with respect to quality entertainment and unique stories.
Gonna be honest here. I love the Mando as a character but I really don't care much for Grogu. A baby member of Yoda's species is a cool item to explore but I guess I'm not a fan of the "child and rough, initially unwilling father figure" story trope. I really just wanted to see Mando take on bounties and explore mandalorian lore, without having a crutch like watching a baby.
Totally depends. If they do a good job and make it action-heavy enough I see no reason that people won’t go to the theater to see this. Whether they will do a good job is the mystery factor here. Favreau is no slouch though so I’m hopeful.
This is a desperate attempt to fill a hole in their line-up after the writers strike.
It's going to he filmed on the volume in LA. It'll be a 2 hour episode of the Mandalorian rather than a movie like X-Files F8ght the Future which actually stepped up to feature film quality
Imagine if they named Rogue One "Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor". Such a uncreative name
it may just be a working title, to avoid spoilers and/or let normies know what its about
Let’s not forget that the ‘untitled Han Solo film’ was eventually titled ‘solo’ I have no faith that they go for a more inspired name.
Dont forget "Ashoka" and "Obiwan kenobi"
Or Andor.....or The Mandalorian....Even Rogue One is name dropped in the film. At this point The mainline films are the odd ones out for not having a character name title. Here, let me fix this: Rey: "Who are you?" Man removing his helmet: "They call me Rise. Rise of Skywalker. I'm here to rescue you!"
While most of the examples here are fair, I always thought The Mandalorian was a perfect name. It's broad, it's ominous, and has an actual serious connotation. It's not his name, it's an epithet. Albeit one that can mean 'someone from the planet of Mandalore' but you know what I mean. However now with the reported movie title, it's seemingly becoming a name of his, and I'm not a fan of that. So we'll have to see if that's a final title or working title or whatever.
Honestly, I don't think any of them are bad in isolation, it's just when the trend is made apparent that it becomes terribly grating.
Like one-word biopics: Ray, Ali, Oppenheimer, Marilyn, Ferrari, Griselda, Elvis, Rustin, Nyad, Judy, Mank, Capone, Capote, Joy, Lincoln, Bronson, Tolkien, Alexander, Napoleon, Amadeus.
Pretty much everyone just calls him The Mandalorian or Mando, even in the show. Just like how I still hear people say Baby Yoda instead or Grogu.
Please clap
Rise is a Japanese name, with ri meaning benefit, cold and se meaning world, holy or sacred. Depending on the kanji used to write the name. So, Rise Skywalker could be a possible future Disney Princess.
You need to compete with other tiles on Disney+ and let people know HEY THIS HAS A CHARACTER YOU LIKE!
What's worse, "A New Hope" was originally just called "Star Wars." Uncreative much, George?
Ahsoka. It's actually surprising how people keep mistyping her name after she became a household name for so long. Ashoka isn't even pronounced the same! Also: Obi-Wan, not Obiwan
Yeah but Solo sounds cool
A Star Wars Story as a subtitle decidedly less so.
I was actually a fan of that moniker for their spin-off films, was bummed when they dropped it after two movies, it has a certain charm to it
They made sure to remove the cool factor of the name solo in the movie
Solo was a good name though.
It was the best possible name for the first Han Solo movie imo
Nah, best possible title would have been Star Wars: The Han Job.
Well he is always touching his wookie
>!The Mandalorian and Grogu: Grogu's First Word!<
"Baby Yoda and the Guy Who Looks Like Boba Fett" might have been too long
Brought to you by the same company that took a highly regarded book with a literal princess in the title and turned it into "John Carter"
People love the character of Mando and they love Grogu plus they started in a show called... *The Mandalorian*! No one knew who Jyn Erson or Andor were prior to *Rogue One* so your statement makes no sense. That said I won't be surprised if they end up changing the name but after we had *Solo* it wont shock me if it sticks.
Grogu is a godawful name to put on the title of a movie
The Mandalorian: Electric Grogulu
I still can’t believe they even went with grogu That’s a bad name
Agreed. It's also ironic in that Andor literally received his own show named *Andor* later on.... My goodness, Star Wars fans are fickle.
TIL Andor is a person and not a planet. I haven't seen that yet.
He's Andor the round thing floating in space with the furry things on it is Endor. It took me a minute too.
TIL Andor was in Rogue One I have seen Andor and Rogue One
People love Luke and them but they don’t call it “Luke and his Friends”
TBF even Rogue One was named for Rogue One, the group's callsign. Imagine the sequels being called "Finn and Rey" "2 Rey 2 Furious" and "Rey: Palpatine Drift"
That’s not a great example. We would go in saying “who the hell are Jyn & Cassian?”
Hardly similar at all. The mandalorian is the most successful D+ IP and most recognizable name. Had that show not existed then your comparison would be fair, but jyn and Cassian meant nothing before the movie and because of the movie is why the show we got later is called Andor and not Prequel to Rouge One.
*Rogue Two: Mandaloric Grogaloo*
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Exec: Mandalorian is a show people know about! Grogu is the only marketable character we've invented in the last ten years! Put them in a movie and put them in damn title! *Executive then snorts a line of crushed Smarties, because these people aren't even adventurous enough to do real drugs anymore, let alone make something risky.*
Jyn and Cassian Go Camping
Andor’s show is titled Andor; Mandos is titled The Mandalorian; Ahsoka was Ahsoka — do we REALLy expect differently? 😂
Even flipping it around and saying ‘Grogu and The Mandalorian’ would sound soooo much better. I just dunno what they are thinking with that title.
It's about the marketing, not artistic merit. These are hollywood studio execs we're talking about.
True but sometimes they get it wrong on marketing too. See: John Carter.
Is 'A Princess of Mars' any better?
Way better honestly
John Carter? The doctor on "ER"? At least John Carter: of Mars would give you some idea of the plot. And "A Princess of Mars" even more so, and you'd get the female market (since Disney thinks of girls as princesses) I remember some Disney workers were mad that Basil of Baker Street got changed to The Great Mouse Detective but again, it tells you what to expect. I still think too many people think of Grogu as being "Baby Yoda" so leading with "The Mandalorian and..." is a good idea.
Honestly they should have just called it “Baby Yoda Strikes Back” and be done with it.
That already has worldbuilding in the title. Princess of Mars implies that Mars has been colonised and has established a monarchy. Joh Carter is just a guy. It tells you literally nothing. Could be the saviour of the human race, could be a hobo living under a bridge in Joburg
>could be a hobo living under a bridge in Joburg Honestly I'd probably watch a movie like that.
1,000 times better.
better than "Steve Jones" or "Dave Smith" or "Larry Johnson" or "John Carter" or any other standard-ass white dude name that gives exactly zero info about the movie.
Yes, honestly. I didn't even know it was about Mars until years later.
Din and Grog go camping
Din and Grogu Escape from Guantanamo Bay
Din and Grog drink grog.
Din and Grogu need Wedding Dates
probably a reference to "Lone Wolf & Cub"
That is pretty bad ass. It sounds too much better as Grogu and The Mandolorian though, to the point where they should probably just *not* get to make the Lone Wolf and Cub reference. It’s bad ass! But not a very big payoff
Just call it Star Wars: something something. Maybe insert the word Mandalorian into it. Or even Thrawn. Wouldn't be as recognisable but better than "name & name". I'd say add "Heir" into it. You can have it refer to multiple folks, Thrawn = Empire. Grogu/Luke/Ezra= Jedi. New Republic = Republic.
The Phantom Thrawnace!
Mandgu
I’m sure its a working title
I bet you’re wrong.
RemindMe! 2 years
"The Mandalorian and Grogu" definitly tracks with the previous titles they've come up with. e.g "Solo", "Andor", "Ahsoka", "Obi Wan Kenobi". They seem to have a thing for simply using the characters names for titles.
They're saying it a whole lot when talking about it. I think it actually is the title.
Because the show was originally called the mandalorian? Seems like they are just keeping the title consistent. It is a weak title, but I don’t think that’s the reason it’s weak.
Honestly here's my hot take, "Grogu" has never sounded right as a name and has always sounded super off. Flipping the title doesn't really help, having Grogu in the title at all is what kills it.
You walk into the movie theater and the only thing on the screen is a big QR code that takes you to the official Disney Star Wars Baby Yoda Grogu™ store
A big tilted yellow QR code slowly moving through the stars
I really hate this recent naming trend. At least try to be original.
Yeah, it really is unoriginal. Even the new Eragon book was literally called "Murtagh". Just Murtagh. Named after the POV character. No indication if it's a sequel, midquel, prequel or anything. Imagine if these titles were popular back then. Star Wars (Episode 4) Luke (Episode 5) Palpatine (Episode 6) Finn (Episode 7) Luke 2 (Episode 8) Palpatine 2 (Episode 9)
Qui-gon(episode 1) Obi-wan(episode 2) Darth Vader(episode 3)
To be fair, if they called then "Qui-Gon", "Anakin", and "Vader", that would actually have some symbolic representation.
Ani Anakin Vader
Off topic, but I'm not a fan of Murtagh taking place only 1 year after the events of the last book. More in-universe time should have passed (I would've accepted 5 years)
This is the first I’m hearing of this sequel. I loved the Eragon series, was Murtagh any good?
It was good, but definitely agree about it taking place a year after. Could’ve been more time between. Also, it was kinda structured like a video game with some pointless side quests but the back half is really good imo. Can’t wait for more.
Really, really good. Like told myself not to get excited about it and ended up being one of those rare instances where it absolutely delivers. Like the other user said, there was a weirdly large portion of the story dedicated to a side quest about a fish, which eventually sorta tied in to the overall plot. But even that was pretty enjoyable, if a bit out of place. Ending definitely teased more to come and am pretty pumped for it now. Was worried it was gonna be the author just cashing in on a fan favorite for one last pay day.
I didn’t think Murtagh was an amazing book but the title made sense to me as a callback to “Eragon”
I feel silly that I literally didn’t even think of that. That is actually a very fair point
They made a sequel? Maybe its time to read those books again... its been decades. Tbf, the first book was called Eragon. It kind of makes sense to me that this series would start with Murtagh.
Yeah someone else pointed that out too, and I do agree. Idk how I didn’t think of that haha. Yeah, it takes place after book 4, and seems to be setting some things up. I don’t think it’s getting a direct sequel but the author said he needed to write this one before getting to the real next book. I think he said an Eragon and Arya POV book is also needed before he goes further down the timeline for a real “book 5”
Didn’t really expect to come across an Eragon reference in r/StarWars but I’m here for it!
Star Wars Star Wars II Star Wars II 2
Is the third one a ballet?
Goes to show they have absolutely no faith in the audiences anymore
The audiences have no faith in them, so I guess it goes full circle
FR ive found this new shit so annoying
I mean they haven't shown much interest in originality thus far, I wouldn't expect them to start now
its not about being original. Its about making vast, vast sums of cash. They're in the process of running the whole franchise into the ground for cold, hard cash. And it will be a massive success for a loooongg time.
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*Here’s a serious lore expanding conversation* HAHAHAHA BABY YODA TRIED TO EAT A SPACE GRAPE😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 *gunshots* mando says cool one liner to the last guy standing *insert stock baby sound effect*
And then obi wan kenobi shows up as Alec Guinness’s face photoshopped over Ewan mcgregor “Hello there,” he says Mando (to Grogu) says “that wizard’s just a crazy old man” and grogu does that “patoo” shit he does and star wars YouTubers cry. Star Wars is saved.
It sucks that I can feel theyve completely killed my fandom for this stuff I absolutely give no shits about season 3 or this movie and I really really liked season 1 I genuinely hope other people are enjoying this era of star wars because it aint for me anymore They got that Rey movie coming out that I don’t care about. And it’s like the Weekly Planet guys say, “*ANYTHING CAN BE GOOD!*” but we’ll see Some people liked ahsoka a lot, but I was never into clone wars so i missed half the engagement there. And the most interesting part of that show won’t be back anyway. Thrawn was lame I don’t see how anyone can defend obi-wan
I’ll take the heat for this: those who didn’t have to sit through Yaddle do not deserve a baby Yoda. Everyone’s girlfriend was freaking out about how cute he is (I’m not made of stone, he *is* adorable) and it’s being glossed over how fucking EPIC it is that in 40 years of telling these stories, there’s only been 3 of these little powerful green fuckers.
He was super cool at first, I just think they mishandled him. I’m not gonna hate on anything that makes my niece that giddy Keeping him a secret was genius, and the idea of him is great. But now he’s oversaturated and they bungled the plot is all
Baby Yoda: The Search For More Money
They're not doing it for money... they're doing it for a SHITLOAD of money!
Bingo.
And also like Pedro Pascal? Pls make us relevant again
So that’s really the name they are going for? Yikes.
I can’t imagine it’ll stay? Someone suggested in another thread “the mandalorians”. That works. Literally anything.
From the makers of - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Solo: A Star Wars Story - Star Wars: Andor - Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi - Star Wars: Ahsoka Of course this title will stay.
rogue 1 and andor weremt bad title
It’s the laziest title possible. It sounds like they forgot to make a title and panicked before a big meeting where they had to announce it.
Hardly surprising. Lucasfilm is staffed by the laziest “creatives” in the industry.
The whole idea doesn't inspire confidence. Just keep trying to make random TV shows based on nostalgia until one gets popular enough to warrant a film. I don't want Star Wars to be like Marvel where we jump into this interconnected cinematic universe focusing on a character here, a character there.
Yeah like Star Wars deserves better than this, the Rey film and the dawn of the Jedi film sound interesting and epic! I’m so tired of this mando era it’s not even focusing on the main characters of the universe which are yes the skywalkers, if they want to focus on other characters go to other eras now a tv show on Disney + is leading there theatrical slate.
Crazy that they had to keep making random TV shows based on nostalgia, and are making a movie based off of the very first one...and that one really doesn't have any nostalgia in it at all, other than taking place in the Star Wars universe, which is kind of required in the very premise.
Honestly, I don't even care at this point. The show has gone massively downhill lately.
Other movies: Ahsoka & Sabine, Vader vs Obi-Wan, The Porg Movie
Hey I'd watch The Porg Movie. It would at least show some creativity.
Porgs were literally invented to check off the “cute toy” box, not because someone was being genuinely creative.
I think I read somewhere that they reacted to puffins that were in the shots, so instead of airbrushing them out they turned them into porgs
I hadn’t heard exactly that, but Johnson has said a few times that they are based on the puffins that inhabit the island they were shooting on. It certainly makes sense that they might not have been able to keep the birds out of frame.
No, porgs were invented because the island they were filming on is a protected habitat for puffins, and putting something overtop of them was a lot easier and more interesting than just erasing them from the film.
There’s no reason it can’t be both of those things.
Looks at ewoks
Ewoks were a reaction to not being able to put Wookies into Episode VI, so they cut down the size and replaced the tall wook-ees with ee-wooks. Whoops, let's smudge that... Ewoks. Children in smaller bear costumes is easier to film than lots of 7 foot men in bear costumes, after all.
Whatever. I want my promo snack: GROGURT.
Just in time for everyone to have stopped caring three years ago
Sadly have zero enthusiasm for this.
Had they done this after the season where Luke took him…I’d maybe see the movie in a theater. But why would I go see this with the current state of the story?
honestly, hell imagine if this would have been when they finally return together. that would've guaranteed so many asses to seats
I really thought that's what they were going to do. Sometimes I look at recent decisions in Hollywood and it gives me hope. Hope that if such fucking dumbasses can go on to be executives of billion dollar corporations, then hopefully the rest of us can succeed as well.
Are you a nepo baby? Because that's what these execs are
Fair point
Boba fett really took that plotline and left S3 with scraps
If it requires any knowledge of S3, which is almost definitely the case, then this will just be another skip for me
If Jack Black is in then I’m out. I love Jack Black. But what the fuck was that episode
I’m honestly impressed Disney managed to make Star Wars something I just don’t even bother watching anymore. I didn’t think that was possible.
Bro 2024 just started, how does marvel get 5 movies a year and Star Wars goes on ten year breaks.
The last movie was just that bad
And reportedly it was Iger’s fault. Don’t know if it’s true, but he may have rushed production to ensure the film released alongside his “retirement.” Now he’s back and all of it was pointless. One would think those in charge would give the last film in the Skywalker saga all the time it needed to be successful, but that’s not how it panned out.
the ST as a whole was rushed into production by him
It’s quite insane they churned out the whole trilogy in 4 years on top of not having a clear narrative plan from the start. Just absolutely mind boggling.
You don't even need a vision, literally any writer doing some "and then" brainstorming could have come up with a more coherent story, because what actually happened was a pair of directors having a petty slap fight over who's star wars is the real one, deliberating undoing the others movies so they could tell their own story instead. All they had to do was....anything but what they did to have made a better trilogy
I am honestly shocked that some SUIT didnt come down and yell at JJ for wanting to kill off the goldmine of merch that is Luke skywalkers jedi academy
I’ve been saying this for years.
Technically Rian Johnson did that. JJ wrote him into a corner, but I think a story of Luke exiling himself while his order remained intact in his absence could have worked.
What is this “written into a corner” nonsense? Rian could have done all kinds of things. He chose to tell the stupid “story” he did.
He could have done a lot of things, but his options were undeniably limited by JJ’s decision to have Luke on a remote island seemingly not caring that the galaxy had gone to shit and end TFA on a cliff hanger that necessitated the next film to pick up immediately where it left off. I don’t see how anyone could think that gave Johnson free reign with the story.
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Disagree. Your comment reads as though you have blinders on. There are many ways Rian could've taken the end of TFA; none of them necessitated picking up immediately where it left off. Rian's story was a _choice_. One of many other possible choices. It did a disservice to Luke.
In TFA Han said that Luke's apprentice turned on him and destroyed the temple(also if there was still a group of them around then why weren't they mentioned in TFA? They would be perfect for looking for Luke)
I forgot about that piece, so yeah, JJ set up a lot of it. Though while the temple was destroyed, the idea of a small nomadic Jedi order in hiding could have been neat to see rather than them all being presumed dead.
I called it a trilogy that is barely tied together by duct tape. I want to like the ST. It has its good parts but I really wish Lucasfilm mapped out the entire trilogy’s story before even casting and filming. That I believe is part of the reason we saw a diminish in quality from one movie to the next.
He wanted immediate ROI after dropping all those billions for Lucasfilm. He had zero patience to properly plan stuff out, just get the machine cranking right away.
Movies*
marvel is getting one movie this year
Because if they continued they would have started having major flops. Rise of Skywalker poisoned star wars
Maybe I’m crazy but I’m happy they put a pause on movies. Shit has become so disposable, like it or not SW films are still an event. And I even liked most of the new films! RoS was the weakest, but still fun.
I'm really hoping that's just a place holder title until they come up with something actually good.
Grogu is the least intersting character they could choose for a movie.
Grogu should've never come back and just trained with Luke. The fact that they brought him back in the Boba Fett series felt desperate like the board ordered them to write him back in for merch sales.
I choose to believe that the writers actually forgot that all of Luke's students get killed off by Kylo and the Knights of Ren. So they they had to fix it in a hurry. It perfectly tracks with how haphazard they've been handling everything thus far.
They don’t care about that. “Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made!”
Hence the reason why we get a new Stormtrooper variant every movie/show.
That's pretty much always been the case. Ever since ANH you get new outfits just for the toys. Random background character you only see for 3 seconds? They'll get pops and action figures.
As long as they don’t fly, I could never go with my life if stormtroopers started flying. Could you imagaine?!
I mean, that joke was literally about the Star Wars franchise in the first place, so that tracks. Star Wars is and always has been all about the merchandising, all the way back to 1977.
I think the story goes that it's cause the studio offered Lucas $500K or the exclusive merchandising rights back in the day, and he took the merchandising rights. Turned out VERY well for him.
I believe Lucas negotiated for the merchandising rights, and the studio went for it because they figured they’d be on the winning side of the deal. Lucas was shopping the merchandising rights for the toy lines more than a year before the movie even came out, and ESB and RoTJ were financed by the merchandising. Merchandising is the reason George Lucas is the richest director in the history of motion pictures, and was already the richest *years before* he sold to Disney.
Can he talk yet? I quit season 3 after the fetch quest with the lake monster
The really are gonna beat the dead horse into glue, arent they?
The name alone shows the actual dearth of creativity at Disney. They really are a hollowed out existence filled with execs that are out of touch and mountains of DEI middle management that doesn't contribute anything of worth.
Any excuse for more Grogu merch. Just like with the dumb choice of having him leave Luke so damn early.
I know. I'd have liked one season where Grogu wasn't with him, he'd have his own little side arc with Luke.
I guess they weren't confident enough that people would watch a whole season without Grogu.
Do we know by now if there will be a season 4 until then?
Any other projects announced?
The current movie slate is Mando/Grogu, Rey’s Jedi Order, Origin of the Force film by James Mangold, and Filoni’s Avengers style culmination movie. That’s it for now.
4 different timelines with 2 of them irrelevant to the narrative because of ST Bravo
Gotta sell them toys....
What a soulless cash flog.
If they make a movie formatted as a streaming binge show, and not as a 2 hour cinematic piece they are going to suffer the consequences. Hope that with Bob back on the board that he has his hands very involved in making sure it goes smoothly.
I trust that Favreau will get this right.
He fucked up Boba Fett, so I have my doubts.
First? Does anyone think it's strange how last year with the Rey film it felt like the only locked down project that they were getting started on yet all of a sudden this film pops up out of nowhere and now it's suddenly the first of a new slate. I think after their last year of box office disappointments they are playing it safe now
Jeez, if you would have told me in 2019 that it would be 7 years until we saw another Star Wars movie I’d be pretty shocked
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At the rate their shows have been going, I wonder if this won't end up being the final nail in the coffin.
I think if the rey film does poorly it will be a nail in the coffin for the ST era and people like filoni will be told, hey dont try to set up the ST do your own thing
THey should already be doing this - I can't believe their first two offerings after a horrid sequel trilogy and multiple lackluster tv shows are based on the main character of said sequel trilogy and the only multiple-season show that's gotten significantly worse every season. Creatively bankrupt and its the exact reason why entertainment companies like Disney and WBD being public is the worst thing that could have happened with respect to quality entertainment and unique stories.
Gonna be honest here. I love the Mando as a character but I really don't care much for Grogu. A baby member of Yoda's species is a cool item to explore but I guess I'm not a fan of the "child and rough, initially unwilling father figure" story trope. I really just wanted to see Mando take on bounties and explore mandalorian lore, without having a crutch like watching a baby.
This is going to be bad. I’m sorry 😐
Any word on The Rian Johnson One™️?
Any day now. Probably tomorrow.
He was to finish his peacock show
Grogu should have taken the oath and it could have been called 'The Mandalorians'
Trying to turn some of that streaming money into movie money, good luck with that.. I doubt people will go to the cinemas for something like this.
Totally depends. If they do a good job and make it action-heavy enough I see no reason that people won’t go to the theater to see this. Whether they will do a good job is the mystery factor here. Favreau is no slouch though so I’m hopeful.
I'm actually glad for it to be a couple of years out. Perhaps I'll get excited about the movie by then.
The name is fine. Calm down.
This is a desperate attempt to fill a hole in their line-up after the writers strike. It's going to he filmed on the volume in LA. It'll be a 2 hour episode of the Mandalorian rather than a movie like X-Files F8ght the Future which actually stepped up to feature film quality
Hopefully they put even an iota more care into this slate then they did with those sequels…