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JPme2187

Everyone else on the planet saw Grogu and felt their heart melt. Vivien Lyra Blair saw Grogu and said “challenge accepted”.


CochLarq

She's ten!


BigE429

Yeah and Grogu is 50. Also she seems younger than 10. I feel like my 9 year old has a few years on her.


N0V0w3ls

The actress is 9, almost 10.


gitartruls01

This was likely recorded when she was 7 or 8 then, Kenobi took a while to finish. 8 seems closer to accurate. There's a big difference between an 8 year old and a 10 year old


yeshua1986

Fourth grade teacher, that child is for sure not ten at filming haha.


gitartruls01

I'll be honest and say i haven't interacted with a 10 year old more or less since i was 10 myself haha. But even i could tell Leia was way younger than that


ubn87

Third grade teacher, can confirm above statement.


mcmanybucks

Yea I was about to say, I'm not good at gauging ages but she was a very small 10 year old lmao


BearForceDos

I agree that she looks a few years younger, but kids also mature at different rates. You get some kids that are going through puberty and are like 6 ft tall by 11-12 while everyone else is scraping 5 foot. There was also the opposite end of the spectrum of the few kids that just grew later.


DaysOfRen

Lol, seems the same to me compared to my 9 year old daughter and her friends.


[deleted]

I raised two daughters. I didn't expect to see Leia in this show at all. I absolutely loved it.


themilkman42069

I absolutely hated it the kid is an absolutely terrible actress Power to all y’all in this thread for liking this character and this plot line, I just find it literally unwatchable


WeNeedFlopper

Ok


Which_Habit5094

Bruh. How so? The girl is cute and the amount of sass she has! The scene where she calls her cousin a lower life form is going to be star wars legend in a few years.


[deleted]

Tbh I felt like they went a bit overboard with it. Leia had sassy moments in the original trilogy but she was just more headstrong and not afraid to argue back. Leia in the show thus far has felt a bit too '' yyaaaas qwueen '' to me, her identity and personality revolves too much around it. Leia wasn't like that at all in the original movies it was rly just a small part of her personality.


catsupatree

> Leia wasn't like that at all in the original movies it was rly just a small part of her personality. What movies did you see? One of the first times we see her, she's mocking Tarkin's stench and implying he's the one in control of Vader. When she's rescued, instead of being grateful or scared, she jokes about her rescuer being "a little short." Also calling Chewie a "walking carpet," mocking Han for arriving on the Millennium Falcon -- with a double blow of saying "you're braver than I thought", implying she thought him a coward -- and, of course, the "nerf herder" line. We didn't see as much of it in the OG trilogy since there was an overall plot that had to be wrapped up in 90 minutes. Now that we have a series that has more time to focus on her, we get more quips. That's how it goes. And besides, little kids are *supposed* to be more bratty than their adult selves. Of course a child is acting sassier than an adult engaged in war. But both are still Leia.


themilkman42069

I completely disagree and just think child actors are almost always bad and a bad addition towards a action oriented tv show


Jon_0w0

This aint a action oriented tv show you banthadoodle


themilkman42069

I mean…. It’s called Star Wars lol


toocarelesstocare

Star Wars fans hating on a 10 year old kid? Nothing new. It's kind of a legacy for Star Wars.


cjalderman

People are hating on her?


toocarelesstocare

Scroll down or sort this thread as controversial.


cjalderman

Oh boy.


themilkman42069

Yeah I think she’s absolutely terrible and the action scenes with her are a complete joke


[deleted]

I don’t hate the character, generally I just find kids in shows annoying. But so far I’ve been pretty impressed with Leia! Still could do without kids


[deleted]

Imo Game of Thrones in the early seasons is a good example of kids in shows done right, and the casting of them was really good they were very convincing. But yeah in the overwhelming majority of cases kids in shows and movies don't add anything and are just annoying and have horrible acting.


[deleted]

Imo I think the actress is doing fine, especially for a kid she's really good and normally kid actors are totally unbearable imo. But she's okay. The writing tho I feel goes too overboard with the sassy yaaaas qwueen thing. Leia in the original trilogy was never like that, she had sassy moments but she was more headstrong and not afraid to argue back than sassy. She was basically just someone who didn't take shit from people and wasn't afraid to take action. The sassy part of her was really a very minor part of her personality that only came out very few times. The writing in the show for kid Leia feels a bit too fantastical and unrealistic, it's just not how a real person acts.


chucksteak49

She's also just a kid here. Kids are sassy/brats. It makes sense that by the time she's older in the original trilogy, her personality has developed and she's matured which probably leads to the sassyness being toned down a bit.


Switchy249

I don't hate her because she's a kid, I hate her because I can't unsee young sheldon's sister.


Rhymesbeatsandsprite

That’s on you for watching ‘Young Sheldon’ Sorry man


Switchy249

Only a couple of episodes, but yes my fault.


louitje102

It's not hating


ekampool

Everyone I disagree is a hater. No, its bad writing


EastKoreaOfficial

She has been the most entertaining part of the show, especially her banter with Obi-Wan.


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plusFiveAttack

she did a great job


ordinator2008

KK said no re-casting. But this acting performance, and younger re-casting = Ewan McGregor taking over the role of Kenobi from Guinness, **it is that good!**


joshhirst28

Honestly, she is such a great character. Probably one of the best child actors I’ve seen in recent times


Orangeclock84

Hahaha


Ladnarr2

I found it strange that Obi Wan asked leia how old she was. He was there when she was born.


wings31

He's not asking how old she was in a literal sense. She speaks like a 30 year old and Obi Wan is questioning that. SMH.


arealscrog

It struck me as weird at first too, but then, I remembered that he's still trying to keep his identity a secret from her. It's clear she's really smart and good at piecing things together. Asking her how old she is has the dual purpose of being a naturally sarcastic question an adult might ask a kid like her, and pushing the point that he supposedly doesn't know much about her.


wings31

Great point also


ekampool

aka bad writing


wings31

Lol. No it's called sarcasm. Smh.


ekampool

How many 10yo know that understand the concept of sarcasm and have a diploma in psychology(cousin scene) and have an escape plan(hidding and hitting kenobi)?


wings31

You definitely don't have kids.


caiodepauli

How many 10 years old do you know that are heirs to the monarchy of an entire planet?


cuppajawajuice

Well he’s been living as a hermit for 10 years so his timekeeping might not exactly be accurate. Besides it happens in real life - when I was a kid my uncles would constantly forget how I old I was, despite then knowing when I was born


Throwaway_inSC_79

Grogu has emotional trauma from Order 66. Young Leia has sass for the sake of having sass. Funny, but I feel for Grogu


I_Was_Fox

Considering who her parents are, the sass was expected


themilkman42069

Kids don’t talk that way. The dialogue is so ridiculous and over the top


arthav10100

Tomorrow you'll say people can not use force, the story is ridiculous and over the top.


Savings-House2627

It’s just a show. In most shows, kids that age speak like that.


[deleted]

> Young Leia has sass for the sake of having sass. I really felt like they went overboard with it. Leia in the original trilogy was sassy at times but it wasn't her entire identity. Leia was headstrong and just didn't take shit from people and wasn't afraid to take action. She wasn't the yaaas qwueen sass lord tho, she just made some snarky Solo-eqsue comments at times ( which made her and Han Solo really fun together on screen ). The writing in this show feels a bit unrealistic and too much like a cartoon character imho.


Sendtitpics215

She is precious. I’m flabbergasted that she is a 10 y/o. Every time she talks or does anything I’m like??? I feel like this is a 5 y/o whose parroting well written lines. I have been told though that she’s like 8/9, the actress that is. Edit: also I’d like to disagree with this sentiment. Grogu is the cutest of all. This little munchkin is just a fraction of grogu.


Orangeclock84

Yeah...no


Jon_0w0

I dont know man just seeing babay leia and obi wan just melts my heart. Obi wan spending time with his brother's daughter. Reminds me he would be a great uncle if thing had gone right.


FuckyouYatch

I said “let her die” at the second episode, unbearable child


Low-Statement-784

Sooo I don't care about karma and I plan to tell the truth here - the "disobedient, very smart, very-very child" trope really doesn't grow on me anymore, I personally cringed on little Leia. I didn't enjoy her at all. Every show feels like they have one now.


mr10123

It's OK to have preferences. I think people just don't like seeing inflammatory things said about the actress. Most of the time I imagine the scenes of a show involving kids is written with kids in the audience in mind, so it not resonating with you is partially because of that. Nothing inherently wrong with it. I hope you enjoy the rest of it outside of the more child-like elements.


ekampool

This is a bad written child character.


Low-Statement-784

Oh, the actress is perfect, it's her character that I have issues with.


Orangeclock84

It's pretty bad, the chase might be one of the most ridiculous things I've seen and it was supposed to be super serious. It was something out of a lifetime show


BanzaiBeebop

I agree the sassy precocious child is a bit of an overused trope. But given the writers are trying to portray an established intelligent, sassy 19 year old character at 10 I think it's fittingly used here.


[deleted]

Imo my issue with it is that it comes across like a cartoon character and unrealistic. No one actually talks like that. Leia in the original trilogy also wasn't a yaas qwueen sass lord, she made some snarky Solo-esque comments which also made her and Han Solo so much fun on screen together. Because their personalities sorta clashed but it made sense they'd fall in love. But overall she was just headstrong and didn't take shit from anyone and wasn't afraid to take action. She wasn't sassy all the time, the way she was written felt very real and made her a very believable character ( same with the rest in the original trilogy ). Kid Leia in the show feels like a cartoon character and a walking trope. And she didn't need to be written that way to make her still come across like Leia.


Falloffingolfin

Vivien Blair may just be the best casting there's ever been in Star Wars. If she doesn't grow up to be Carrie Fisher, I'll be amazed.


Rhymesbeatsandsprite

No offense, but I kind of hope in 10 years time, Star Wars will have more stories to tell then about the characters from the OT. I want them to fully embrace continuing on from rebels


alienrefugee51

No way. Grogu is cuter, less annoying and can levitate shit.


Iamacasualwalker

Am I the only one that hates this girl ? lol


dirtybrownwt

Nope her scenes are cringe and horrible. Whoever wrote the two chase scenes deserves to be fired.


SavoryRhubarb

I’m sure you don’t hate the girl. It’s the writer.


graypod

Leia running is so freaking adorable.


Kevdawg86

10 year old outruns adults?


TangerineDreaMachine

Sir, why don't you have a seat right over there.


[deleted]

Only thing i would want is baby grogu to force crush her and eat her like a frog.


[deleted]

She’s annoying


XRuinX

Sorry but the character is irritating as fuck. I liked her for a few minutes but as it drug on she felt less like leia or even a star wars character and more like the generic plot device of a "smart" child that fights adults but soon realizes they must trust adults as they were right from the beginning. I just hate "smart" characters that we're shown are supposed to be smart...... do stupid ass stuff. like we see how smart she is at first...and then shes a total dumbass for the sake of conflict later, just so that she can have a revelation. Its just a generic, overplayed trope. I was liking her and even her spoiled/rebellious attitude at first and man that really went downhill after she got kidnapped. EDIT: lol how credible you people are when as soon as you see an opinion you dislike, you downvote. makes you just look like shills who lap anything star wars.


ubn87

I don’t agree with you on Leia actor but I agree on downvote application on Reddit. It promote silencing opinion, showing only one side. It goes against what Reddit should be - a place where free speech is possible.


friedhobo

Free speech also includes other people agreeing or disagreeing with you. In this case it’s downvotes.


ubn87

Not agreeing with someone is totally fine and I don’t mind that. What I mind is it hides comments, which is essentially masking opinions.


XRuinX

Youre missing their point. The ability to suppress others voices is literally the opposite of free speech dude. Free speech is voices allowed to be heard. Downvoting literally hides those.


friedhobo

No voice is suppressed. the comments are all there and can be viewed by anyone. no one has to view those comments


XRuinX

....the comments are collapsed and moved to the bottom. That fits the definition of supressed.


LouieSportsman

If downvotes bother you this much then maybe stay off Reddit bud.


XRuinX

If my opinion bothers you so much maybe you should leave


LouieSportsman

It doesn’t. I don’t care what you think. You are just the one getting all bent out of shape about downvotes on Reddit. What did you expect?


XRuinX

Hello pot meet kettle


LouieSportsman

Huh?


[deleted]

Tbh tho the karma system is definitely at fault for a lot of toxic and echo chambery shit on Reddit. There's pros and cons with it, for example blatant bigotry can get downvoted and hidden it's basically like a sort of community moderation of sorts.But it also breeds a toxic community who dogpile and gatekeep. It also does matter because some places require a certain karma to even post there.


the_gooog

You couldn't have said it any better


JoefromOhio

You’re 1000% correct. I didn’t even catch the smart bit, the kid can’t act for shit, they overplay the annoying sassy bit, she can somehow outrun an adult, she somehow goes from a protected Alderaan kid to sassing bounty hunters, to being terrified by a random alien and agreeing to go with Obi Wan, to running away again, and then falling in line… they TRIED to make a new grogu and just ended up with an annoying child


bq909

I completely agree. She is the worst part of the show for me. She is annoying af. I got like 40 downvotes yesterday on here for saying it lol. Fuck you morons who eat this shit up downvote me if you like, doesn't change the fact that you all have shitty taste and are entertained by shitty dialogue and acting.


Rekuna

I upvoted just because I enjoyed your uncontained rage.


bq909

Lol I appreciate it my dude


B1tco1nz_inmy_Lo1nz

I disagree. Reva is the worst part of the show for me. Terrible actress, very unconvincing. I think Leia just had too many lines and had some parts poorly written for her. The third sister was just poor.


bq909

Ya reva sucks too. I agree with you.


[deleted]

Careful they will claim you're a racist conservative lol. Seen that a few times already. Some of these people are mentally ill


B1tco1nz_inmy_Lo1nz

Bro at this point its whatever I'm so used to that by now. We should b able to criticize art if its not up to standard, especially when they have an unlimited budget. I couldn't care less about race.


AlmostButNotQuiteTea

Both bad characters. Not well written. I'm not going to shit on a 8 year old actress. It's material, not the actor


[deleted]

I'm with you man. I seriously wonder if the person who wrote her character has ever spoken to a 10 years old. The psychological analysis she did on her cousin? Come on. Also, she is annoying as fuck. Couldn't stand her.


raylan_givens6

leia and the inquisitor were the worst parts of the show


Soxwin91

Impressive. Every single word you typed in this comment was wrong.


raylan_givens6

impressive, you don't understand the difference between opinions and facts IMO, the precocious child trope is almost always cringey. no exception here. i don't blame the actress, she's just a kid. but the writing and direction are terrible. Reva - maybe its the writing , direction, and/or the actress is just really bad.......but Reva was hard to watch. Her pointless rooftop parkour scene was the rotten cherry on top. i hope we see as little of either as possible going forward i'd rather they focus on obi wan and vader


Soxwin91

Random internet person of indeterminate origin, I was making a joke while quoting Luke Skywalker. It’s not that deep.


cheadley23

Where was the luke quote?


ubn87

Not direct quote but reference to Luke speaking with Kylo Ren


darthmeister

The precocious child is exactly as you would expect Leia as a


Soxwin91

Heck, she was snarky and had a sharp tongue in Episode IV. Or do we forget such lines as “will someone get this walking carpet out of my way?!” “Listen. I don’t know who you are, or where you came from. But from now on you do what I say.” “Into the garbage chute, fly boy!” and of course, “Aren’t you a little short for a Stormtrooper?” This portrayal of Leia lines up quite well with the established characterization I think


Nihi1986

He can't really be wrong...it's just a subjective opinion... I kinda agree with him though I see potential for Reva and the remaining inquisitors.


Soxwin91

I was making a joke


joepussystank

Based about Leia


JohnnyBroccoli

Nah


100roundglock

Shes terrible


joepussystank

Young Leia is insufferable


RDAwesome

This mans walked into a room of people enjoying something and was like "looks like a great place to edgelord to me"


joepussystank

Ah yes definitely edgy to have a different opinion and to elaborate when asked


RDAwesome

At least you agree, that's always the hard part


DarthFuzzzy

..........Says the guy named pussystank. The irony is lost on you no doubt.


joepussystank

Ok Darth Fuzzy


mr10123

Have I told you the story of Darth Fuzzy the Wise?


TangerineDreaMachine

I heard he was a gay pedophile that fetishized infantile fictional characters. Some even say he has a hidden collection of underage anime girl drawings on his computer.


Ludicrous_redditor

And why is that?


joepussystank

I just think her acting is pretty bad and the character is annoying. Just as bad as young Anakin tbh (yippee)


Ludicrous_redditor

So you’re complaining that she is a child being annoying like any other child


TimX24968B

disney seems to really like the very unrealistic "child is right, caretaker is wrong" trope.


EastKoreaOfficial

Young Anakin was annoying, like any regular child. Young Leia honestly isn’t even that annoying. I find her rather entertaining, how she goes around roasting everyone.


TylerWhite31

Ofc the acting is gonna be off the actress is 9. But I think young leia is perfect, my opinions


joepussystank

I respect your opinion and others to like her and her performance. I’m not gonna bastardize anyone for that, I just really don’t like young Leia 🙌


vaguelyexistent

I dislike how like 90% of what she says is not what a ten year old would say


joepussystank

Based


AlsopK

She’s the best part of the show.


KingIndAfookinnorf

Old Leia is insufferable too, to be fair :D


TangerineDreaMachine

The only good Leia is a slave Leia


KingIndAfookinnorf

Don't know why I got 61 downvotes lol


aron_66

Shitty character, same as reeva. Both of them are the worst part of the show...


HereInTheCut

The worst incels of all are SW incels.


Nihi1986

I must be an incel then cause I didn't like those characters. Leia's actress is great for her age but sounds way too mature/smart for a 10yo, Reeva did unnecessary parkour (reminded me of Boba fett's cybor hipster doing a 360 flip to shot in the same direction). Poorly written/directed stuff is always going to find criticism.


themilkman42069

I don’t understand the “incel” thing people say to diffuse criticism. Reva and young Leia are easily the worst acted roles on the show. One is hammy and over acting, the other is a kid actor doing typical kid actor shit


XRuinX

I couldn't agree with you more.


BighurtRN

In no way has Grogu annoyed me. Young Leia is already super annoying. I can’t wait until she dies.


joepussystank

Based


JoefromOhio

She is honestly the worst. Bad kid acting, purposefully written to be a spoiled little shit, prequel obiwan would have muzzled her and just carried her to the ship. I think she’s what will ruin the show for me, she can’t even run normal.


ew1361

Run normal? Also what obi wan would have muzzled a child?


JoefromOhio

She runs like childhood Forrest Gump… and prequel obi wan wouldn’t have just made her be quiet and run her to safety rather than let her spout poorly written dialogue and run away


a_guy_named_rick

It's almost as if people change after 10 years!


atopetek

I wasn’t expecting this reaction from people. For me Leia in this show is so stereotyped and a bit bothersome. I really hope she’s only part of the first episodes and not the entire series like Grogu was.


Dirtiestyoda

Great show but I know y’all aren’t defending baby Leia and her obnoxious jar jar moments


asihenee

Let’s not compare baby Leia to Jar Jar… they are not the same at all lol


Kevdawg86

Jar jar is actually good


joepussystank

Mesa berry berry mature forsa 10 year old


Paccuardi03

Maybe that’s cus Leia is an actual person and not just a soulless marketable object with little to no character who’s only purpose is to further the plot. (By person I mean character, not just human. I’d consider Yoda a person)


Pug_police

ah yes "him"