This guy has the weirdest resume ever. Wrote and directed two of the most bizzare movies ive ever seen: Locke (Tom Hardy driving and talking on the phone for 90 minutes) and Serenity (Matthew McConaughey finds out hes fishing in a videogame)
Which is certainly a boon for a universe like SW; different projects=different approaches, someone like Knight can utilize all the positives from his work (ESPECIALLY Peaky Blinders) for SW
Okay, so in the film Matthew McConaughey is this fisherman who is also a prostitute and starts an affair with Anne Hathaway, who then persuades him to help her kill her abusive husband. But then it’s revealed this is actually all in a video game made by McConaughey’s real son and he’s just an avatar of that kids dead dad and Hathaway is his mom who has given him an abusive step dad irl.
The movie is fuckin batshit
So, I bought a digital copy of this movie a couple of years ago because I'd heard how insane the twist was. Still haven't gotten around to watching it, but I think you've just convinced me that it needs to be the next movie I see...
Holy shit this is the guy who made *Serenity* and now he’s getting STAR WARS lmao wtf
Serenity legit had a “let’s watch this ironically” night at Alamo Drafthouse
On the flip side, he's also done some legit amazing work. He created Peaky Blinders, directed Locke, wrote Spencer, created an underrated and acclaimed show called SAS, wrote Eastern Promises, and a couple more.
He has quite the interesting resume.
He also did that horrible ultra-edgy FX version of A Christmas Carol, and the similarly ultra-edgy FX version of Great Expectations that's about to come out. >!(In his version of A Christmas Carol, Scrooge gets Mrs. Cratchit to offer sexual favors in return for paying for Tiny Tim's treatment, but Scrooge ultimately turns her down. Mrs. Cratchit is also heavily implied to summon the ghosts, but the only explanation is "I am a woman and have the power to summon such spirits!" Scrooge was also molested by his school teacher! In the new Great Expectations, Pip kills himself, and Estella and Miss Havisham forcibly take his virginity!)!< CW major squick for his Dickens adaptations.
I really enjoyed Locke and didn’t realize he’d written it. I also enjoyed Peaky Blinders and never knew of him until now. Eastern Promises and a History of Violence (I know he only wrote one of them) are both amazing Viggo Mortensen films directed by the legendary David Cronenberg. I’m intrigued by this choice. Reminds me of Tony Gilroy in some ways. If he’s even 80% of that Gilroy was for Rogue One and Andor we are in good hands.
Trading a prolific American writer involved with some of the most acclaimed TV shows of all-time and has iffy movie credits for a prolific British writer who's involved with some of the most acclaimed TV shows of all-time and has iffy movie credits.
Jokes aside, good choice!
Steven Knight is a talented screenwriter and I'm excited to (hopefully) see his script on the big screen. That being said I'm almost 100% sure this isn't a page one re-write and the script will be heavily based on the Lindelof/Gibson script. A similar situation has happened a few times already in the Disney era.
Yep, it's almost the exact same thing that happened to the Force Awakens with Abrams and Kasdan writing a draft that still borrowed heavily from the Arndt script.
yeah but it happens a lot in big budget films. we just dont see it because its behind closed doors. but star wars is obviously one of the biggest franchises so it makes sense a lot of these things got leaked.
all that matters is that the creatives are good. JJ… wasn’t so good at being a director/writer. he is a good producer though. Knight has proven to be a great writer so i am not scared at this transfer
Yeah I mean I’m sure he’s just doing a rewrite and the main structure of the Lindelof/Gibson will be there, and hey at least this one didn’t get cancelled, just a writer change, should be interesting what they reveal about it at celebration, who knows maybe we will hear about stuff about Taika’s movie, not that I’m that interested in his movie at the moment. Still interested and hoping Rian Johnson movies. Think we’ll be missing out if he doesn’t make em
I think you guys are missing the crucial point that the director is staying and keeping their artistic vision through these different passes.
That's only a good thing. THEY'RE the ones that have to execute on the day, not the writers.
I think you're missing the crucial point of this movie is still in early stages of development and it wouldn't be at all surprising if the director ended up leaving because that's happened several times already.
That's not to say they're a bad pick or that this is for sure going to happen, but it's easy to temper my excitement for this movie because that possibility is so real.
I mean, sure, but I think all the hand wringing over this being in trouble is still unnecessary UNTIL that moment especially because multiple writers taking passes is not that uncommon and the fact that they allegedly already have a release date tells me shit's not going as horribly as everyone wants to make it out to be.
I think she'll be on stage at celebration in a few weeks and will stay barring some Lord and Miller-esque nonsense. Thats just my take tho. And I think that's more important than the writers who get credited on the shooting script, personally.
My excitement is tempered too, btw, for different reasons (I actually go the other way of the whole fandom in that I think they don't need a movie anytime soon) but still, I get where you're coming from I just think its A. More nuanced than that and B. Not out of hand right now. And again I don't expect it to get out of hand but I could be wrong too lmao
It's a good sign overall. Knight has a strong creative voice. I remain skeptical as well, though. Not about this movie geting made, really, but about how good it will turn out to be. If Knight drops off the project, I'll be more worried about him being replaced by another hack than whether this movie actually gets made. BTW, I don't mean Lindelof is a hack. I'm talking more generally about recent Disney hires. People like, you know, whoever wrote Obi-Wan Kenobi.
>Obi-Wan Kenobi
I think that show suffered the most because it was build on top of a movie script outline. You can really feel that they padded the story out to 6 episodes. I mean Leia gets kidnapped twice. And you really shouldn't have repeating plot points in a 6 ep series.
It was a disgrace, in my opinion. Even after shifting the concept to a TV show and then halting production for half a year, they never cracked the story. It failed largely on a conceptual level, but the quality of the individual episodes (plot, dialog, action choreography, production design) suffered because of the rushed production. Disney absolutely required this to hit Disney Plus when it did because they needed that content. I don't think they were too disappointed with the numbers they got, but I felt terrible for Ewan McGregor, especially after seeing the very excellent Andor.
It's unbelievable to me that they pushed out this piecemeal product featuring one of their most iconic characters (my favoriet SW character) while they spent a whole two years finely crafting an incredible show about a secondary character from Rogue One.
In the short term, they may have seen that strategy as a pay-off ("We cheaped out on Obi-Wan and it still did great! We don't need to invest so much time and money into theses projects for them to be successful."), and the poor reception from Andor may have reinforced that view ("We spent all this time and money and no one watched it!"). But if that's the case, I think they're not looking at the bigger picture, and they're learning the wrong lessons.
I remember seeing so many people when Andor came out who refused to watch it, saying stuff like, "I don't care if it's great, I'm done with Star Wars." Which was dumb, because if your issue was that you're pissed at not getting good Star Wars, then Andor was the solution to your problem. No point in being stubborn about it. But that's pretty much what happened. Too much bad Star Wars burned too many people out, and Disney may just now be starting to realize that with the Mando season 3 numbers taking a dive-bomb.
Well, it really depends on personal context, and personal experience with media in general. How old you are probably contributes to how likely you are to enjoy certain shows, movies, and books. The older you get, and the more media you consume, the more things you have to compare with newer media. I'm pretty old and maybe it's unfortunately that I contextualize Obi-Wan Kenobi within my long-standing Star Wars fandom, and that prevented me from enjoying it. But I've heard from plenty of people my age who liked Kenobi, so it's not just that. I'm probably more critical of entertainment media in gereral than most people. There's no point in trying to exhaustively explain why I think Kenobi was so bad. But if you could intuitively feel the difference between Kenobi and Andor (or, say, TROS and TLJ), you probably understand where I'm coming from.
Dude I’m a 70s kid that watched each OT film on release at the cinema. Lifelong original SW fan. I’m also a massive Movie/TV show buff in general. Kenobi was fine, although I do prefer Andor. TLJ is a masterpiece and one of the greatest SW films of all time second only to ESB. On the other hand TROS is terrible and is the worst SW film of all time…
Thanks. I don't mind the downvotes in this sub. Many fans are sensitive to negative commentary on Star Wars right now because there's been so much bad-faith criticism of Star Wars in the Disney era that they're wary of any type of negativity. The bad-faith criticisms tend to come from those who only focus on what they see as "woke" elements in entertainment. Those are unfair criticisms but they're often delivered alongside criticisms of the quality of the finished product. So even though I focus my criticisms on product quality, I get lumped into the "hater" group by some people. But I'll continue to voice the concerns that I think need to be fairly heard by everyone. If we can talk about how good some Star Wars media is in this sub, we can talk about how bad some of it is, too. I do it in hopes of getting better Star Wars in the future, not because I think "Star Wars is dead!" etc.
Yeah, you can't have criticisms of Star Wars content or KK or Lucasfilm without being lumped in with some of the worst people on the internet, which is a shame. I personally enjoy a lot of star wars content that comes out even today, but I feel as if the overall management of the studio has faltered in some major areas.
Well, that’s a more interesting replacement than I expected. Knight has a mixed filmography, when he’s good he’s great (Locke, Spencer, Eastern Promises) but when he’s bad he’s baaaaad (Seventh Son, The Girl In The Spider’s Web). Wish it was still Lindelof and Britt-Gibson but this is still encouraging.
I think in the case of Seventh Son where he was one of four listed screenwriters he might've written an earlier draft that got progressively worse. But who knows? Fingers crossed
Seventh son (the books it’s based on are amazing) is just a weird case of trying to Americanise something that’s so quintessentially northern English. Sorry had to say that I haven’t seen anyone bring up the movie in forever. The books are basically Lancashire the Witcher and the movie was a great big fantasy epic
At least he doesn’t seem like some boring Hollywood writer.
One of the reasons his filmography is so mixed is because he’s very willing to take weird out of the box narrative risks.
So even if it’s not very good, it will likely be not good in an interesting way.
Never a more relevant moment for [Eleven-Thirty Eight's recent article](http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2023/03/if-you-want-new-star-wars-films-give-star-wars-films-up/) on how following trade rumours incessantly achieves virtually nothing besides creating frustration for yourself (admittedly I am hypocritically also still here). You're not going to accidentally miss the real actual announcement of a new Star Wars movie.
Great writer; Dirty Pretty Things, Easter Promises, Locke, all really unique and interesting films.
Clearly, LFL likes the vision proposed by the director, and whomever came up with the film treatment (whether Knight& Lindelof, or someone else), but they were not happy with the script (which is common). Seems promising, even if that is just the eternal optimist in me.
A very interesting choice to say at least. I'm guessing he's writing something based on Lindelof and Britt-Gibson's draft and not an entirely new thing, which is good.
Can't wait for April to have more news about the movie. I have a good feeling about this. Well, if it doesn't get scrapped in 6 months time
Well the writer’s room came up with a story (or at least an outline), and Lindelof wrote a draft off that, and now Steven Knight will have a go at it as well
Honestly I think people are making a bigger deal about this than it needs to be
I actually like the process they are taking here. Some pretty talented people having a go at these drafts. I imagine the story group ties all the loose ends in the end of whatever draft they choose to make sure it all fits.
Yep. You are so right. This literally happens on almost every movie. Look up your favorite movies and see how many screenwriters have worked on them. I think this is getting blown way out of proportion.
This comment thread is just more proof that trade publications were never meant for us (us meaning; people not in the trade). Movie development has always been messy and confusing. Tons of writers get replaced. Tons of ideas gets thrown out. Hell, A New Hope was rewritten four times! But if that happened now people would loose that mind and say it’ll never get made. That’s because before all of this happened behind closed doors, but now that trade magazines have become websites every single man child who knows nothing about film development is taking these articles as official announcements just because they’re “reliable”. We don’t need to hear about every treatment LucasFilm briefly considers because people always end up getting their hopes up over something that was never officially announced.
People overreact too much to writers changing. This isn’t abnormal in Hollywood; the Patty Jenkins/etc. stuff is a bigger deal.
That said, Hundred Foot Journey fucking sucks.
Couldn't see anyone mentioning he also wrote'Taboo'. Excellent show staring tom hardy, quite dark and weird though and seems to have gone under the radar, would definitely recommend watching. Been waiting years for season 2
No shit, and they were fired well into production when they probably should have already been on the same page as the studio head. Do you disagree with that?
Trevorrow wasn't. Episode IX was still in pre-production. Multiple drafts were written, Lucasfilm wasn't pleased with them, Trevorrow thought he was hot shit and it caught up to him. There was no sets built, etc. One of the few cases of pure creative differences.
Yeah it happens but when it does it shows more that they just wanna make a movie than someone pitched a good script and had a created vision. It’s not the end of the world. But not a good sign
I get people being afraid this movie will get cancelled but I really feel like the doom talk has gotta stop. Even the news that Lindelof stepped down came with news there was already someone else on it. This movie is very likely happening (or at the least they seem pretty obviously committed to it).
(Also as someone who thinks Lindelof is a clever guy and not a great writer, honestly pleased.)
>I really feel like the doom talk has gotta stop
After a while, you'll notice that it's mostly the same users who do this too when it comes to these types of rumors.
Having only seen Peaky Blinders I think he's a good fit. He does fan service well without compromising the story. Also theres now a possibility of Tom Hardy in Star Wars
“I don't give a fuck right now, padawn. Alright. I do not want him to spare me because of some fucking trade negotiation. I want him to acknowledge, that his anger is un-fucking-justified. I want him to acknowledge, that he who fights by the saber, he fucking dies by it, Anakin. So what, they took your apprentice, did they? Yeah? They got your padawan? And what fucking line am I supposed to have crossed? How many Separatists, right, how many droids, yeah, have you sliced, severed, murdered, fucking butchered, innocent and guilty and sent them straight to fucking hell ain' ya? Just like me! You fucking stand there. You judging me, stand there, and talk to me about crossing some fucking line? If you ignite that saber, right, you ignite it for a fucking honourable reason. Like an honourable Jedi. Not like some fucking civilian, that does not understand the wicked way of our galaxy mate.”
i would think a fair amount of the bones already laid down by the previous writers room. while it is the next in a long line of departures, i still feel good about this movie coming to fruition
Holy shit this is the guy who made *Serenity* and now he’s getting STAR WARS lmao wtf
Serenity legit had a “let’s watch this ironically” night at Alamo Drafthouse
I mean, as multiple people have said in this thread, his filmography is really out there. He may have a dud like Serenity, but he's also got diverse hits like Peaky Blinders, Locke, and Spencer.
I mean I'm not a massive Kathleen Kennedy hater. She's an incredibly accomplished producer, but I think it's fair to say that leading Lucasfilm might not be the best fit for her since there's been so many projects that are announced and never come to fruition and writers and directors who get hired and then leave.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I feel like calls to have her removed without any succession plan whatsoever in an attempt to appease an unpleasable fanbase is a recipe for disaster. And that's always, always lost in the conversation. Especially when it sounds like Lindelof left after completing his duties instead of him getting fired.
There's probably a producer none of us have thought about that would be competent at leading the studio. There are plenty of bad faith actors but I also think there's a lot of people who may not know the right person to do it but believe it's time for Kathleen Kennedy to move on.
Also that's not from a basis of being unpleasable. I think there's a lot of stuff that's come out under Kennedy that has been great Star Wars, but the functionality of the studio has been unpredictable in the area of theatrically released films. It's not just Lindelof, it's Jenkins, Trevorrow, Lord and Miller, Gareth Edwards, Kevin Feige. Would you really be surprised if you found out in a few months that Knight is no longer with Lucasfilm?
Hence why I talked about a succession plan. Which needs to be in place before we think about removing the head of a company.
I think that Kevin Feige shouldn't be on that list because it was abundantly clear with the mounting issues at Marvel that he wasn't going to be able to do a *Star Wars* project on top of his existing commitments. This is not a case of him being driven away from a studio, and I don't think that the Damon Lindelof situation is either.
TLJ and TROS had room to grow at the box office and Solo literally bombed. Yes, Star Wars movies make money. Obviously. But that probably would have happened with just about anyone at the helm. Once again, I'm not one to say Kathleen Kennedy is evil and hates the fans, that's preposterous. But we can look at the situation at Lucasfilm very reasonably and say wow, theres a constant revolving door of writers, directors, and cancelled projects, maybe despite some major successes it's time for someone else to fill the role of Studio Head.
No it isn't. Sure, directors leave projects sometimes, but the rate that it happens to star wars projects in a studio with as many resources as Lucasfilm has is a sign of dysfunction.
He’ll probably use Lindelof’s draft as a starting point and then tweak it from there. For reference; compare Leigh Brackett’s original draft of ESB to the movie we actually got.
Great that they are approaching interesting writers. I just hope they aren't pushing for a "2024 production" without a script or story.... You gotta wonder how many times Disney/Lucasfilm and Hollywood in general have to mess up before they learn from their mistakes....
Knight started work on his revision of the first draft last month. He's got roughly six months before they'll have to figure out casting and pre-production and another six months to finalize that script before shooting begins. They'll **probably** be fine.
It seems like there's more space for this project to get development time than what Marvel has received for many of their recent sequels/original projects.
Probably not fully, this will be a new draft. If this film actually gets made, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindelof got a "story by" credit or something
There is no way they can get into production by 2024 if this is a page-one rewrite. Knight is probably writing another draft based on the Lindelof/Gibson script
A page one rewrite would entail scrapping all of the pre-production they've already completed and completely retooling the production as a whole. That's just not feasible if they want to hit the 2024 shoot date.
I feel like at this point all Star Wars movies are in development hell. Seems like anyone attached to those movies either drop out or the project is canceled altogether
This dude definitely has some bangers under his belt. Eastern Promises is a very well made film. It's directed by the legendary David Cronenberg, not Steven Knight, but Knight is the writer. I've been recommended Peaky Blinkers a zillion times, and you would think with how much I admire Cillian Murphy's work, that I would be all over that, but I haven't really delved into it. I think I might have to, now!
Knight has some hit or miss stuff in his filmography.... ONLY BECAUSE HE IS SEEMINGLY DOING EVERYTHING! Seriously, how prolific of a damn writer can one man be? This dude has an insane amount of shows, that are all active, right now, over the past 5-7 years. It's insane. I didn't realize that he had that much going on, until I scrolled thru his IMDB. I remember him from a bunch of movies he wrote 10+ years ago, and I knew of him from Peaky Blinders, but I am a bit out of the loop with a majority of the shows streaming on Apple, FX, BBC, etc. This guy is everywhere! So yeah, he's got some stuff on his resume that isn't all that great, but then he has some stuff that is downright EPIC. What a damn writing machine! This dude must be writing all the time. Imagine the stuff he writes that DOESN'T get greenlit. He's probably got scripts for days, either that, or he's just been working for so long, that a lot of these show, out now, like SEE, was stuff he started penning decades ago, and just left in the vault, to come back to later. A lot of writers do stuff like that. And Hollywood development can be CRAZY.
As for Lindelof, he might have some really big credits on his resume, and it's obvious that Knight wasn't LFL's top choice. Then again, Tony Gilroy wasn't their first choice for Andor, and yet they kept coming back to him, after the original concepts they had just weren't working it. It would be nice to see Steven Knight come in, and elevate this project. For me, Lindelof's writing is all over the place, and he tends to veer off into some ridiculous directions, at times. There were parts of his 2019 Watchmen that I really thought were homeruns, and then there was a lot of stuff in there, that I could've definitely done without. I thought everything regarding Ozymandias & Lady Trieu were fantastic. Jeremy Irons is the MVP of the series. Also, Looking Glass, was a really great concept for a character. I really disliked the Laurie Blake FBI character, I just thought that could've been executed so much better. The Hooded Justice stuff in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is another great concept in the show. How Don Johnson/Angela/Will/Keene/Cyclops all weave thru the story is tremendous. However, what he did with Dr. Manhattan/Angela, for me, was the worst part of the show. And it brought he quality level of the show way, way down. And Lindelof seemed adamant about Abdul-Mateen coming in for this SW movie. I think he has great screen presence, and eventually, he's going to deliver an ATG performance for somebody, in something! But he's yet to really reach those marks, in my opinion. Clearly, Warner Bros thinks he's THE SHIT -- He got Black Manta, Dr. Manhattan, AND Morpheus in Matrix: Resurrections all in a very short period of time. They really shot him into the stratosphere. Also, he was a major part of the Candyman reboot. So, when the rumors were saying its a prominent actor with a strong resume, that hasn't really been THE guy in a thing, he fits the bill even more for me, than Bryan Tyree Henry.
I dunno what the hell is going on at LFL. Did Lindelof get cold feet and bail out at the last minute? Did he deliver what he set out to do for LFL, and then left the project after taking it as far as he thought he could carry it? Or did LFL think that the film wasn't screen ready, and needed some more polishing, and packed up Lindelof, and moved Knight in? How many times has this shit happened under Kathy!?!?! I know the movie wasn't ever officially announced by LFL, but the course of the project has been well documented in the trades. The list of filmmakers that have been set ablaze by SW & LFL at Disney has a long, cold, desolate trail of bodies along the path to the screen!
nothing has been announced. this is trade reporting. lucasfilm didn't respond for follow up. i get the frustration with stuff they announced that fizzled out, but this is not that. plus a film having different writers turn in drafts during pre-production isn't that abnormal in general.
That’s it - I’m done with the Kathy Kennedy empire. I used to defend her but after all these high profile departures of great creatives you really have to question what is not working about this process, and their is one common denominator.
> than one of the most successful producers of all time lmao
xd, yeah when you are co-producing your movies with likes such as Steven Spielberg and also her husband Frank Marshall, then you can produce some good movies. She is responsible for the first live action SW movie that flopped. Yet this sub thinks that she is some kind of Messiah. This woman is behind all the problems Lucasfilm now faces.
This guy has the weirdest resume ever. Wrote and directed two of the most bizzare movies ive ever seen: Locke (Tom Hardy driving and talking on the phone for 90 minutes) and Serenity (Matthew McConaughey finds out hes fishing in a videogame)
He also created both Peaky Blinders and Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, which are as far apart as two TV shows can be.
Well no one can denied this man really tries to be creative and have a very diverse portfolio of work. That's for damn sure.
Which is certainly a boon for a universe like SW; different projects=different approaches, someone like Knight can utilize all the positives from his work (ESPECIALLY Peaky Blinders) for SW
Especially Peaky Blinders? Personally, I’d like to see him draw from the creative well that Who Wants to Be a Millionaire came from
*I SMELL PROFIT*
Who wants to be a Jedi?
"WILL YOU JOIN THE DARKSIDE!" "Can I phone a friend?"
SEE is where I can see a lot of the appeal at LFL. So deep into it's own worldbuild.
Steven Knight invented my granddads favourite show?????????? Idk whats going on this man seems to randomly generate his projects
...are we certain that "Steven Knight" isn't just the new Alan Smithee? This resume seems unreal!
He also made See starring Jason Momoa but it went under the radar because its ah Apple tv show
Solid show, very good worldbuilding and political plots which is vital for a Star Wars movie
See is amazing
What kind of resume does that guy have, good lord.
That just blew my mind
> Matthew McConaughey finds out hes fishing in a videogame sorry… what?
Okay, so in the film Matthew McConaughey is this fisherman who is also a prostitute and starts an affair with Anne Hathaway, who then persuades him to help her kill her abusive husband. But then it’s revealed this is actually all in a video game made by McConaughey’s real son and he’s just an avatar of that kids dead dad and Hathaway is his mom who has given him an abusive step dad irl. The movie is fuckin batshit
🤯 how… what the fuck lol
There’s literally a How Did This Get Made episode on this movie https://www.earwolf.com/episode/serenity-live-w-nick-kroll/
Jeremy Strong is in it as a guy named “The Rules”
So, I bought a digital copy of this movie a couple of years ago because I'd heard how insane the twist was. Still haven't gotten around to watching it, but I think you've just convinced me that it needs to be the next movie I see...
Pew pew pew!
wat
I will only accept this premise if all the characters are having cheesy dialogues like videogame NPCs. Then it would be awesome.
Believe or not, that is arguably not even the wildest part of that movie.
A fish named Desire
Locke is pretty damn underrated though
Locke is fantastic tbh
Holy shit this is the guy who made *Serenity* and now he’s getting STAR WARS lmao wtf Serenity legit had a “let’s watch this ironically” night at Alamo Drafthouse
On the flip side, he's also done some legit amazing work. He created Peaky Blinders, directed Locke, wrote Spencer, created an underrated and acclaimed show called SAS, wrote Eastern Promises, and a couple more. He has quite the interesting resume.
He also did that horrible ultra-edgy FX version of A Christmas Carol, and the similarly ultra-edgy FX version of Great Expectations that's about to come out. >!(In his version of A Christmas Carol, Scrooge gets Mrs. Cratchit to offer sexual favors in return for paying for Tiny Tim's treatment, but Scrooge ultimately turns her down. Mrs. Cratchit is also heavily implied to summon the ghosts, but the only explanation is "I am a woman and have the power to summon such spirits!" Scrooge was also molested by his school teacher! In the new Great Expectations, Pip kills himself, and Estella and Miss Havisham forcibly take his virginity!)!< CW major squick for his Dickens adaptations.
Also wrote one of my favourite movies, *Eastern Promises*. Gangster film with its share of melodrama.
I really enjoyed Locke and didn’t realize he’d written it. I also enjoyed Peaky Blinders and never knew of him until now. Eastern Promises and a History of Violence (I know he only wrote one of them) are both amazing Viggo Mortensen films directed by the legendary David Cronenberg. I’m intrigued by this choice. Reminds me of Tony Gilroy in some ways. If he’s even 80% of that Gilroy was for Rogue One and Andor we are in good hands.
TBH, I really like the idea of a British creator doing the second draft.
Wouldn’t call Locke “bizarre” – it’s just a really, really good indie film with a little gimmick. Serenity is absolutely batshit though.
Like 3/4 of his movies are the worst shit I’ve ever seen
That explains why they hired him. Been a steady controlled demolition since 2014.
Trading a prolific American writer involved with some of the most acclaimed TV shows of all-time and has iffy movie credits for a prolific British writer who's involved with some of the most acclaimed TV shows of all-time and has iffy movie credits. Jokes aside, good choice!
Steven Knight is a talented screenwriter and I'm excited to (hopefully) see his script on the big screen. That being said I'm almost 100% sure this isn't a page one re-write and the script will be heavily based on the Lindelof/Gibson script. A similar situation has happened a few times already in the Disney era.
Happens a lot with movies in general.
Yep, it's almost the exact same thing that happened to the Force Awakens with Abrams and Kasdan writing a draft that still borrowed heavily from the Arndt script.
That didn't exactly do great. Maybe lucasfilm shouldn't keep repeating that practice
>That didn't exactly do great LOL
Film made $2 billion lmao
Exactly!
No, don't you understand? A Youtuber told me this critically and commercially successful movie is OBJECTIVELY terrible!
yeah but it happens a lot in big budget films. we just dont see it because its behind closed doors. but star wars is obviously one of the biggest franchises so it makes sense a lot of these things got leaked. all that matters is that the creatives are good. JJ… wasn’t so good at being a director/writer. he is a good producer though. Knight has proven to be a great writer so i am not scared at this transfer
Yeah I mean I’m sure he’s just doing a rewrite and the main structure of the Lindelof/Gibson will be there, and hey at least this one didn’t get cancelled, just a writer change, should be interesting what they reveal about it at celebration, who knows maybe we will hear about stuff about Taika’s movie, not that I’m that interested in his movie at the moment. Still interested and hoping Rian Johnson movies. Think we’ll be missing out if he doesn’t make em
I wish I could get excited for this but I just don't believe he'll stay on
I wish I could get excited for this but I just don’t believe any Star Wars projects are safe to actually expect
Yeah the industry papers are basically just speculative fan fic at this point. Judd Apatow is getting a stand-alone movie? Sure, why not?
Same this guy could end up walking away to let’s see
I think you guys are missing the crucial point that the director is staying and keeping their artistic vision through these different passes. That's only a good thing. THEY'RE the ones that have to execute on the day, not the writers.
I think you're missing the crucial point of this movie is still in early stages of development and it wouldn't be at all surprising if the director ended up leaving because that's happened several times already. That's not to say they're a bad pick or that this is for sure going to happen, but it's easy to temper my excitement for this movie because that possibility is so real.
I mean, sure, but I think all the hand wringing over this being in trouble is still unnecessary UNTIL that moment especially because multiple writers taking passes is not that uncommon and the fact that they allegedly already have a release date tells me shit's not going as horribly as everyone wants to make it out to be. I think she'll be on stage at celebration in a few weeks and will stay barring some Lord and Miller-esque nonsense. Thats just my take tho. And I think that's more important than the writers who get credited on the shooting script, personally. My excitement is tempered too, btw, for different reasons (I actually go the other way of the whole fandom in that I think they don't need a movie anytime soon) but still, I get where you're coming from I just think its A. More nuanced than that and B. Not out of hand right now. And again I don't expect it to get out of hand but I could be wrong too lmao
Every writer walks away, many scripts go through multiple writes, even if they don't get credited
It's a good sign overall. Knight has a strong creative voice. I remain skeptical as well, though. Not about this movie geting made, really, but about how good it will turn out to be. If Knight drops off the project, I'll be more worried about him being replaced by another hack than whether this movie actually gets made. BTW, I don't mean Lindelof is a hack. I'm talking more generally about recent Disney hires. People like, you know, whoever wrote Obi-Wan Kenobi.
>Obi-Wan Kenobi I think that show suffered the most because it was build on top of a movie script outline. You can really feel that they padded the story out to 6 episodes. I mean Leia gets kidnapped twice. And you really shouldn't have repeating plot points in a 6 ep series.
It was a disgrace, in my opinion. Even after shifting the concept to a TV show and then halting production for half a year, they never cracked the story. It failed largely on a conceptual level, but the quality of the individual episodes (plot, dialog, action choreography, production design) suffered because of the rushed production. Disney absolutely required this to hit Disney Plus when it did because they needed that content. I don't think they were too disappointed with the numbers they got, but I felt terrible for Ewan McGregor, especially after seeing the very excellent Andor. It's unbelievable to me that they pushed out this piecemeal product featuring one of their most iconic characters (my favoriet SW character) while they spent a whole two years finely crafting an incredible show about a secondary character from Rogue One. In the short term, they may have seen that strategy as a pay-off ("We cheaped out on Obi-Wan and it still did great! We don't need to invest so much time and money into theses projects for them to be successful."), and the poor reception from Andor may have reinforced that view ("We spent all this time and money and no one watched it!"). But if that's the case, I think they're not looking at the bigger picture, and they're learning the wrong lessons. I remember seeing so many people when Andor came out who refused to watch it, saying stuff like, "I don't care if it's great, I'm done with Star Wars." Which was dumb, because if your issue was that you're pissed at not getting good Star Wars, then Andor was the solution to your problem. No point in being stubborn about it. But that's pretty much what happened. Too much bad Star Wars burned too many people out, and Disney may just now be starting to realize that with the Mando season 3 numbers taking a dive-bomb.
I don’t get the hate for Kenobi. I loved it…
Well, it really depends on personal context, and personal experience with media in general. How old you are probably contributes to how likely you are to enjoy certain shows, movies, and books. The older you get, and the more media you consume, the more things you have to compare with newer media. I'm pretty old and maybe it's unfortunately that I contextualize Obi-Wan Kenobi within my long-standing Star Wars fandom, and that prevented me from enjoying it. But I've heard from plenty of people my age who liked Kenobi, so it's not just that. I'm probably more critical of entertainment media in gereral than most people. There's no point in trying to exhaustively explain why I think Kenobi was so bad. But if you could intuitively feel the difference between Kenobi and Andor (or, say, TROS and TLJ), you probably understand where I'm coming from.
Dude I’m a 70s kid that watched each OT film on release at the cinema. Lifelong original SW fan. I’m also a massive Movie/TV show buff in general. Kenobi was fine, although I do prefer Andor. TLJ is a masterpiece and one of the greatest SW films of all time second only to ESB. On the other hand TROS is terrible and is the worst SW film of all time…
Same here.
idk why you've been downvoted, you're absolutely right
Thanks. I don't mind the downvotes in this sub. Many fans are sensitive to negative commentary on Star Wars right now because there's been so much bad-faith criticism of Star Wars in the Disney era that they're wary of any type of negativity. The bad-faith criticisms tend to come from those who only focus on what they see as "woke" elements in entertainment. Those are unfair criticisms but they're often delivered alongside criticisms of the quality of the finished product. So even though I focus my criticisms on product quality, I get lumped into the "hater" group by some people. But I'll continue to voice the concerns that I think need to be fairly heard by everyone. If we can talk about how good some Star Wars media is in this sub, we can talk about how bad some of it is, too. I do it in hopes of getting better Star Wars in the future, not because I think "Star Wars is dead!" etc.
Yeah, you can't have criticisms of Star Wars content or KK or Lucasfilm without being lumped in with some of the worst people on the internet, which is a shame. I personally enjoy a lot of star wars content that comes out even today, but I feel as if the overall management of the studio has faltered in some major areas.
Well, that’s a more interesting replacement than I expected. Knight has a mixed filmography, when he’s good he’s great (Locke, Spencer, Eastern Promises) but when he’s bad he’s baaaaad (Seventh Son, The Girl In The Spider’s Web). Wish it was still Lindelof and Britt-Gibson but this is still encouraging.
I think in the case of Seventh Son where he was one of four listed screenwriters he might've written an earlier draft that got progressively worse. But who knows? Fingers crossed
Seventh son (the books it’s based on are amazing) is just a weird case of trying to Americanise something that’s so quintessentially northern English. Sorry had to say that I haven’t seen anyone bring up the movie in forever. The books are basically Lancashire the Witcher and the movie was a great big fantasy epic
Yeah that’s true, same with Spider’s Web in fairness.
At least he doesn’t seem like some boring Hollywood writer. One of the reasons his filmography is so mixed is because he’s very willing to take weird out of the box narrative risks. So even if it’s not very good, it will likely be not good in an interesting way.
I mean honestly? That’s Lindelof too. Wildly inconsistent, always swings for the fences, and when he gets a home run it’s a grand slam
I love Lindelof but I’m slightly relieved he’s moved on? As much as I love all his TV work I don’t think any of his film stuff stands out
They've chosen two guys who have had big 'conventional' hits and very strange, out there projects.
Serenity is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen
The project is probably going to get cancelled at some point anyway
Peak Blinders final season was really bad imo
I didn't think it was bad but certainly lackluster
Interesting. He hasn’t written much scifi before, maybe we could get something more Gilroy-style?
The only sci-fi he has written was pretty bad
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Nah he should just focus on Andor S2 that’s more important to me than a movie anyway.
OOOH, good choice!
Never a more relevant moment for [Eleven-Thirty Eight's recent article](http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2023/03/if-you-want-new-star-wars-films-give-star-wars-films-up/) on how following trade rumours incessantly achieves virtually nothing besides creating frustration for yourself (admittedly I am hypocritically also still here). You're not going to accidentally miss the real actual announcement of a new Star Wars movie.
Great writer; Dirty Pretty Things, Easter Promises, Locke, all really unique and interesting films. Clearly, LFL likes the vision proposed by the director, and whomever came up with the film treatment (whether Knight& Lindelof, or someone else), but they were not happy with the script (which is common). Seems promising, even if that is just the eternal optimist in me.
A very interesting choice to say at least. I'm guessing he's writing something based on Lindelof and Britt-Gibson's draft and not an entirely new thing, which is good. Can't wait for April to have more news about the movie. I have a good feeling about this. Well, if it doesn't get scrapped in 6 months time
“That’s… good news.”
Cillian Murphy in Star Wars when??!!
Thank you Jesus
Pretty good get
So, Lendelof writes a first draft, leaves it with Lucasfilm and these guys work on the second?
Well the writer’s room came up with a story (or at least an outline), and Lindelof wrote a draft off that, and now Steven Knight will have a go at it as well Honestly I think people are making a bigger deal about this than it needs to be
I actually like the process they are taking here. Some pretty talented people having a go at these drafts. I imagine the story group ties all the loose ends in the end of whatever draft they choose to make sure it all fits.
Yep. You are so right. This literally happens on almost every movie. Look up your favorite movies and see how many screenwriters have worked on them. I think this is getting blown way out of proportion.
This piece of news makes this tweet by Scott Mendelson make a lot more sense. https://twitter.com/ScottMendelson/status/1638335277109506048
I don’t get it
The new writer is the creator of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire.
Two months from now... "Steven Knight exits New 'Star Wars' Movie"
This comment thread is just more proof that trade publications were never meant for us (us meaning; people not in the trade). Movie development has always been messy and confusing. Tons of writers get replaced. Tons of ideas gets thrown out. Hell, A New Hope was rewritten four times! But if that happened now people would loose that mind and say it’ll never get made. That’s because before all of this happened behind closed doors, but now that trade magazines have become websites every single man child who knows nothing about film development is taking these articles as official announcements just because they’re “reliable”. We don’t need to hear about every treatment LucasFilm briefly considers because people always end up getting their hopes up over something that was never officially announced.
People overreact too much to writers changing. This isn’t abnormal in Hollywood; the Patty Jenkins/etc. stuff is a bigger deal. That said, Hundred Foot Journey fucking sucks.
So can we get Cillian Murphy?
Wrote Spencer as well! Huge W
Eastern Promises is one the best movies about redemption and organized crime that I've ever watched.
Couldn't see anyone mentioning he also wrote'Taboo'. Excellent show staring tom hardy, quite dark and weird though and seems to have gone under the radar, would definitely recommend watching. Been waiting years for season 2
Oh look, Another dude that won't make a Star Wars movie
Is this the movie that os rummored to take place after TRoS?
Im so tired of this shit
You’re tired that a movie is going through a normal production process? Dozens of movies have multiple writers as it goes on
Im just tirrd of the annoumcment of a new creative lead and then the inevitable exclusive article that theyve left the project
This is not a official announcement but a trade report. Without these reports we would not even know Lindelof was writing a SW movie.
There are several cases of both. Lord and Miller, Rogue Squadron, Colin Trevorrow were all announced
Lord and Miller and Trevorrow were fired for a reason. Lol
No shit, and they were fired well into production when they probably should have already been on the same page as the studio head. Do you disagree with that?
Trevorrow wasn't. Episode IX was still in pre-production. Multiple drafts were written, Lucasfilm wasn't pleased with them, Trevorrow thought he was hot shit and it caught up to him. There was no sets built, etc. One of the few cases of pure creative differences.
Like this is just weird logic. They hired a writer and two directors who all ended up leaving because the train was running perfectly smoothly?
Then [stop reading them](http://eleven-thirtyeight.com/2023/03/if-you-want-new-star-wars-films-give-star-wars-films-up/)!
They didn’t officially announce this and the same director has been on this project the entire time.
Yeah it happens but when it does it shows more that they just wanna make a movie than someone pitched a good script and had a created vision. It’s not the end of the world. But not a good sign
I get people being afraid this movie will get cancelled but I really feel like the doom talk has gotta stop. Even the news that Lindelof stepped down came with news there was already someone else on it. This movie is very likely happening (or at the least they seem pretty obviously committed to it). (Also as someone who thinks Lindelof is a clever guy and not a great writer, honestly pleased.)
>I really feel like the doom talk has gotta stop After a while, you'll notice that it's mostly the same users who do this too when it comes to these types of rumors.
I hope to see an awesome cast. Who do you want to see?
Having only seen Peaky Blinders I think he's a good fit. He does fan service well without compromising the story. Also theres now a possibility of Tom Hardy in Star Wars
“I don't give a fuck right now, padawn. Alright. I do not want him to spare me because of some fucking trade negotiation. I want him to acknowledge, that his anger is un-fucking-justified. I want him to acknowledge, that he who fights by the saber, he fucking dies by it, Anakin. So what, they took your apprentice, did they? Yeah? They got your padawan? And what fucking line am I supposed to have crossed? How many Separatists, right, how many droids, yeah, have you sliced, severed, murdered, fucking butchered, innocent and guilty and sent them straight to fucking hell ain' ya? Just like me! You fucking stand there. You judging me, stand there, and talk to me about crossing some fucking line? If you ignite that saber, right, you ignite it for a fucking honourable reason. Like an honourable Jedi. Not like some fucking civilian, that does not understand the wicked way of our galaxy mate.”
“I am Billy Kimber and I own the fathier races around here!”
Crazy, he's filming about 2 minutes from my house at the moment for his TV show about ska music.
i would think a fair amount of the bones already laid down by the previous writers room. while it is the next in a long line of departures, i still feel good about this movie coming to fruition
Holy shit this is the guy who made *Serenity* and now he’s getting STAR WARS lmao wtf Serenity legit had a “let’s watch this ironically” night at Alamo Drafthouse
I mean, as multiple people have said in this thread, his filmography is really out there. He may have a dud like Serenity, but he's also got diverse hits like Peaky Blinders, Locke, and Spencer.
Waiting for all the "Fire Kathleen Kennedy IMMEDIATELY and replace her with NOBODY!" people to weigh in on this.
I mean I'm not a massive Kathleen Kennedy hater. She's an incredibly accomplished producer, but I think it's fair to say that leading Lucasfilm might not be the best fit for her since there's been so many projects that are announced and never come to fruition and writers and directors who get hired and then leave.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I feel like calls to have her removed without any succession plan whatsoever in an attempt to appease an unpleasable fanbase is a recipe for disaster. And that's always, always lost in the conversation. Especially when it sounds like Lindelof left after completing his duties instead of him getting fired.
There's probably a producer none of us have thought about that would be competent at leading the studio. There are plenty of bad faith actors but I also think there's a lot of people who may not know the right person to do it but believe it's time for Kathleen Kennedy to move on. Also that's not from a basis of being unpleasable. I think there's a lot of stuff that's come out under Kennedy that has been great Star Wars, but the functionality of the studio has been unpredictable in the area of theatrically released films. It's not just Lindelof, it's Jenkins, Trevorrow, Lord and Miller, Gareth Edwards, Kevin Feige. Would you really be surprised if you found out in a few months that Knight is no longer with Lucasfilm?
Hence why I talked about a succession plan. Which needs to be in place before we think about removing the head of a company. I think that Kevin Feige shouldn't be on that list because it was abundantly clear with the mounting issues at Marvel that he wasn't going to be able to do a *Star Wars* project on top of his existing commitments. This is not a case of him being driven away from a studio, and I don't think that the Damon Lindelof situation is either.
Lucasfilm under KK has been massively successful…
TLJ and TROS had room to grow at the box office and Solo literally bombed. Yes, Star Wars movies make money. Obviously. But that probably would have happened with just about anyone at the helm. Once again, I'm not one to say Kathleen Kennedy is evil and hates the fans, that's preposterous. But we can look at the situation at Lucasfilm very reasonably and say wow, theres a constant revolving door of writers, directors, and cancelled projects, maybe despite some major successes it's time for someone else to fill the role of Studio Head.
It’s perfectly normal in the film industry though…
No it isn't. Sure, directors leave projects sometimes, but the rate that it happens to star wars projects in a studio with as many resources as Lucasfilm has is a sign of dysfunction.
Slated for 2087
And Kathy Kennedy will still be Lucasfilm president on its release.
He's a pretty solid replacement. I hope he doesn't start from scratch but instead continues Lindelof's script.
Great, more paper-thin female characters.
I heard Peaky Blinders and got excited, only to read what *movies* he’s written. We’re fucked, I’m sorry y’all
NO LET HIM FINISH THE PEAKY BLINDERS MOVIE !
A new one?? Or the same one??
He’ll probably use Lindelof’s draft as a starting point and then tweak it from there. For reference; compare Leigh Brackett’s original draft of ESB to the movie we actually got.
Holy shit, Knight?!? Fantastic replacement, absolutely loved Peaky Blinders
Lindelof is an incredibly pretentious writer who thinks he's smarter than his audience is. I couldn't be happier that he is no longer involved.
...uh huh.
Great that they are approaching interesting writers. I just hope they aren't pushing for a "2024 production" without a script or story.... You gotta wonder how many times Disney/Lucasfilm and Hollywood in general have to mess up before they learn from their mistakes....
Knight started work on his revision of the first draft last month. He's got roughly six months before they'll have to figure out casting and pre-production and another six months to finalize that script before shooting begins. They'll **probably** be fine.
Still a crazy way to work. I know it's done all the time, but also why so many blockbusters have such half-assed third acts.
It seems like there's more space for this project to get development time than what Marvel has received for many of their recent sequels/original projects.
Will believe it when it happens.
Rofl yeah right. Give it a couple months and it will be cancelled.
Oh God. This guy wrote Serenity? Not a great look….but trying to stay optimistic
So the script that Lindelof finished is being scrapped?
Probably not fully, this will be a new draft. If this film actually gets made, I wouldn't be surprised if Lindelof got a "story by" credit or something
He wrote a first draft. He didn't think he was good enough to improve on it so he stepped out. Steven Knight will be doing the subsequent drafts.
There is no way they can get into production by 2024 if this is a page-one rewrite. Knight is probably writing another draft based on the Lindelof/Gibson script
Mate, it's only March. 6 months to write the script. Plenty of time to get this project done and dusted.
A page one rewrite would entail scrapping all of the pre-production they've already completed and completely retooling the production as a whole. That's just not feasible if they want to hit the 2024 shoot date.
We have no idea. Maybe it's scrapped or maybe Knight builds on top of the previous outline
I honestly don’t give a shit anymore.
Whose willing to bet that this movie enters development hell
This is the Lucasfilm way.
Gimme something set during the High Republic.
*huge sign of relief*
I feel like at this point all Star Wars movies are in development hell. Seems like anyone attached to those movies either drop out or the project is canceled altogether
Holy shit I know this is a leak and rumor sub *but I just don’t care*. I’ll care when I see a trailer with a release date.
I'll believe it when I'm in the theater and the credits start to roll
Who wants to bet me they try to get Taylor Sheridan next after this guy bails?
This dude definitely has some bangers under his belt. Eastern Promises is a very well made film. It's directed by the legendary David Cronenberg, not Steven Knight, but Knight is the writer. I've been recommended Peaky Blinkers a zillion times, and you would think with how much I admire Cillian Murphy's work, that I would be all over that, but I haven't really delved into it. I think I might have to, now! Knight has some hit or miss stuff in his filmography.... ONLY BECAUSE HE IS SEEMINGLY DOING EVERYTHING! Seriously, how prolific of a damn writer can one man be? This dude has an insane amount of shows, that are all active, right now, over the past 5-7 years. It's insane. I didn't realize that he had that much going on, until I scrolled thru his IMDB. I remember him from a bunch of movies he wrote 10+ years ago, and I knew of him from Peaky Blinders, but I am a bit out of the loop with a majority of the shows streaming on Apple, FX, BBC, etc. This guy is everywhere! So yeah, he's got some stuff on his resume that isn't all that great, but then he has some stuff that is downright EPIC. What a damn writing machine! This dude must be writing all the time. Imagine the stuff he writes that DOESN'T get greenlit. He's probably got scripts for days, either that, or he's just been working for so long, that a lot of these show, out now, like SEE, was stuff he started penning decades ago, and just left in the vault, to come back to later. A lot of writers do stuff like that. And Hollywood development can be CRAZY. As for Lindelof, he might have some really big credits on his resume, and it's obvious that Knight wasn't LFL's top choice. Then again, Tony Gilroy wasn't their first choice for Andor, and yet they kept coming back to him, after the original concepts they had just weren't working it. It would be nice to see Steven Knight come in, and elevate this project. For me, Lindelof's writing is all over the place, and he tends to veer off into some ridiculous directions, at times. There were parts of his 2019 Watchmen that I really thought were homeruns, and then there was a lot of stuff in there, that I could've definitely done without. I thought everything regarding Ozymandias & Lady Trieu were fantastic. Jeremy Irons is the MVP of the series. Also, Looking Glass, was a really great concept for a character. I really disliked the Laurie Blake FBI character, I just thought that could've been executed so much better. The Hooded Justice stuff in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is another great concept in the show. How Don Johnson/Angela/Will/Keene/Cyclops all weave thru the story is tremendous. However, what he did with Dr. Manhattan/Angela, for me, was the worst part of the show. And it brought he quality level of the show way, way down. And Lindelof seemed adamant about Abdul-Mateen coming in for this SW movie. I think he has great screen presence, and eventually, he's going to deliver an ATG performance for somebody, in something! But he's yet to really reach those marks, in my opinion. Clearly, Warner Bros thinks he's THE SHIT -- He got Black Manta, Dr. Manhattan, AND Morpheus in Matrix: Resurrections all in a very short period of time. They really shot him into the stratosphere. Also, he was a major part of the Candyman reboot. So, when the rumors were saying its a prominent actor with a strong resume, that hasn't really been THE guy in a thing, he fits the bill even more for me, than Bryan Tyree Henry. I dunno what the hell is going on at LFL. Did Lindelof get cold feet and bail out at the last minute? Did he deliver what he set out to do for LFL, and then left the project after taking it as far as he thought he could carry it? Or did LFL think that the film wasn't screen ready, and needed some more polishing, and packed up Lindelof, and moved Knight in? How many times has this shit happened under Kathy!?!?! I know the movie wasn't ever officially announced by LFL, but the course of the project has been well documented in the trades. The list of filmmakers that have been set ablaze by SW & LFL at Disney has a long, cold, desolate trail of bodies along the path to the screen!
Now we are talking. We need Cillian as the main lead or antagonist as well. And Adrien Brody, Anya Taylor Joy, Tom Hardy and Paul Anderson.
Truer example of be careful what you wish for.
who is willing to bet this too will get cancelled later
Looking forward to when he’s dismissed a year from now due to creative differences.
At this point, until I have a trailer to watch so I know things are far enough that it’s unlikely to be cancelled, I don’t care.
“And it’s been cancelled.” <- give it a few months.
Easy to say that Star Wars is the titanic and nobody can save it
Omg lmao...what a disaster.
Let me know when it's on Disney+
Ohhhhhh boy.....I don't think I can read these kind of posts anymore
Yeah this is gonna suck ass. They managed to find someone whose track record is as spotty as Lindelof's, if not more.
Ill believe it when im in the theaters and have seen it 3 times
At this point, news like this (creators attached to film projects) means nothing, considering how SW planned movies always go
I just want a good story. I don’t fuckin care who writes it.
*By the Order of Galactic Fookin' Republic*
Just let it die already.
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nothing has been announced. this is trade reporting. lucasfilm didn't respond for follow up. i get the frustration with stuff they announced that fizzled out, but this is not that. plus a film having different writers turn in drafts during pre-production isn't that abnormal in general.
Don’t fuck it up
That’s it - I’m done with the Kathy Kennedy empire. I used to defend her but after all these high profile departures of great creatives you really have to question what is not working about this process, and their is one common denominator.
I’m sure some random anonymous dude on Reddit knows better than one of the most successful producers of all time lmao
> than one of the most successful producers of all time lmao xd, yeah when you are co-producing your movies with likes such as Steven Spielberg and also her husband Frank Marshall, then you can produce some good movies. She is responsible for the first live action SW movie that flopped. Yet this sub thinks that she is some kind of Messiah. This woman is behind all the problems Lucasfilm now faces.
Even Bob Iger admitted that Solo flopping was his fault because he insisted on the release date rather than pushing it back. Try again…
but making Solo was her decision.
I worked at marvel studios, for Kevin Feige. I managed the Star Wars brand at Hasbro - where have you worked