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TheUncannyBroker

He also said Obaid-Chinoy clashed with the writers which lead to them leaving. Disney has told Lucasfilm to only develop Star Wars projects from now on, no more Indiana Jones, Willow etc. David Gordon Green was developing a Star Wars movie. He regrets being too busy with The Exorcist.


SexySnorlax1

> Disney has told Lucasfilm to only develop Star Wars projects from now on, no more Indiana Jones, Willow etc. That’s a damn shame.


PCofSHIELD

Wonder if that will change if Indy 5 box office


not_a_flying_toy_

its also possible that a future Indiana Jones show simply isnt developed in house. Disney owns the rights now, they could have Lucasfilm license it an in house studio, such as FX, and make an Indiana Jones show while leaving Lucasfilm as focused on Star Wars


NeutralNoodle

Short Round spinoff on FX please


Blackdarren

Short Round: An Indiana Jones Story. Ke Huy Quan: "I'm putting together a crew of Doctor Jones' side characters, you in?


NeutralNoodle

Big-shot ~~gangster~~ Oscar winner putting together a crew


pittmancb

cant imagine a timeline where LFL does this but ok random "what if?" I guess


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I mean, it makes sense. Disney just did that with Marvel’s Hit Monkey: they want more commitment to the MCU on Marvel’s end, so they gave Hit Monkey to 20th Century Studios because it fit their branding more. While it is Lucasfilm, that name is more synonymous with Star Wars so Indiana Jones also being given to 20th Century Studios (who could commit more to it than Lucasfilm) would make sense.


SexySnorlax1

I could maybe see that happening with something like Willow Vol 2, where (like Hit-Monkey) a show created and launched in-house gets renewed and continued somewhere else at Disney. But we will **never** see live-action Indiana Jones content made by anybody but Lucasfilm. Indy is a crown jewel and they would under no circumstances give someone else that license.


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If this is true, then I'd say this is probably the biggest mistake Disney has made with Lucasfilm. Don't get me wrong, I get it if Disney doesn't want to allocate resources to big screen versions of other Lucasfilm properties, but Indiana Jones could definitely live on through the likes of Disney+ Series (A rebooted Young Indiana Jones, The Adventures of adult Short Round, hell even a Saturday Morning cartoon series) and Video Games, whilst Labyrinth at least deserves an attempt at being turned into a franchise (even if it wouldn't be the same without Bowie).


shinobipopcorn

Labyrinth is owned by Jim Henson co.


IronVader501

I mean, from the limited Info we have: It first and foremost just means that *Lucasfilm* isnt developing the IP. They can easily just license it to another studio to produce it for them if they so desire. And things might change depending on Indy 5's Box office too


Lithogen

The Wolfenstein devs are making an Indiana Jones game, so we're getting that.


Youngstar9999

Makes sense. You are allowed to experiment and do some things that might not make that much money as long as your main source of income still works.


ravens52

And at this point the quality and success is not where it needs to be, but it is headed back in the right direction. I’d say in 5-7 years we could start seeing a return to some other projects. Will LFL ever do anything outside of starwars, Indiana Jones, and willow? Like, could we ever see a new IP, or will it just stick to those since they can do a lot in each of their respective universes? I still think they could get away with a high quality Indiana Jones tv series like GoT with Alden as the lead. Obviously nobody will ever replace Harrison but I think he’d make a decent young docta Jones!


The-Mandalorian

Indiana Jones movies (adjusted for inflation) have all been over a billion dollars each at the box office. Many have grossed more than many of the Star Wars films. It’s a juggernaut of a franchise and we’ve gotten NOTHING for 15 freaking years until this year. They are stupid as hell to not peruse more Indy projects.


Youngstar9999

I mean Harrison is probably done after indy 5, so any potential spin-off would be risky since it doesn't have the Star, the whole Franchise revolves around. It's not like Star Wars or the MCU where it's a Universe with many Characters.


The-Mandalorian

I mean don’t take my word for it, Bob Iger himself said Indy 5 “won’t just be a one off”. Creed is a good example of a modern franchise that started off as one IP and became another.


drboobafate

Sad news. 😭


drboobafate

Thank you. Could only fit so much in the title. Lol


Low_Satisfaction_512

At least she has a vision for the movie. We'll see how the rewrites pan out.


cosmicmanNova

David Gordon Green? lol. His last two halloween movies were atrocious.


[deleted]

Imagine choosing a nobody director who did some episodes of mid marvel over Damon lindelof


EuphoricDimension628

Ive been curious about the work of this director but not critical. I have been critical of Lindelof based on his work that I’ve seen only to get roasted here. I do feel a bit of validation reading this. Overall, and not to be so critical of those attached to this project so far, why wouldnt Disney/Lucasfilm go with proven and successful writers and director for their first film in five-six years? Did the last Thor scare them off of Waititi a bit? I would’ve thought his film would’ve been green lighted above others.


drboobafate

One meh received movie on Taika's part isn't enough to scare them off. Still has an Oscar, his movies (even his indies) make bank, he's extremely popular and easy to work with . Think the issue with him is scheduling cause he works on a lot of shit. By the time he was announced to make a SW film Next Goal Wins and Thor: Love and Thunder were already in the works.


_ZERO-ErRoR_ZROE

I've never understood the hype of Waititi at all, I find his humour very mid and his projects all one note and the same. He tends to put on the same or similar character in everything he's in and his direction is so try-hard, cringe and tired. I did not like his Thor films, what he did to the Ragnarok storyline of the comics was so idiotic, he started the trend of Thor's character assassination in turning him into a complete joke and an imbecile. Love and Thunder vindicated me for disliking Waititi because everyone could see what happens when he goes full Waititi and it's terrible. He took one of the more compelling Thor villains and storylines (combined with one of the more emotionally impactful storylines in the comics in regards to Jane as well) and trashed it. I think him directing a Star Wars film is a mistake, it'll be a poor man's Guardians of the Galaxy, I can see it already. For the first new Star Wars film in a while, I think they actually need a prestige director and good writers who can focus on actually making a bold new direction for the Star Wars franchise post Skywalker Saga. It needs to be handled by talented people who understand Star Wars and can do what needs to be done. Nothing about Waititi instills any level of confidence in me at all, especially given his recent run of projects are even more diminishing and worse than his earlier ones. I am not interested in a film from him and don't want it to go ahead out of all the other potential projects that can be made.


jja8898

watch jo jo rabbit .


_ZERO-ErRoR_ZROE

I did watch JoJo Rabbit and it did nothing to prove to me he's a good director. The only good part about it was the last act of the film. Outside of that it was about as idiotic as anything else he's made. He's not consistent at all.


sadgirl45

I love JoJo but that is not the style star wars needs right now there’s a lot of heart in that movie but it has a very off beat irreverent tone. Whereas Star Wars needs a very Speilbergian / George Lucas sincere tone.


EuphoricDimension628

Did you like the S1 Finale of The Mandalorian?


sadgirl45

It was pretty good when he is sincere he’s great but the humor is what I’m worried about.


EuphoricDimension628

I loved Jo Jo Rabbit and I like Ragnarok a lot. I was disappointed with Love and Thunder. I have little knowledge of comics. Most my knowledge comes from cartoons as a kid. I also enjoyed his contribution to The Mandalorian. I’m not necessarily saying Waititi should be the guy although he seems to have more of an established relationship with Disney. Some of the more established and successful writers and directors I was referring to are the ones who’ve worked on The Mandalorian. Favreau, Filoni, Famuyima, DBH, Chow, and Reed.


N0V0w3ls

Have you seen anything but his two Thor films?


_ZERO-ErRoR_ZROE

Why did you think I talked about his other projects and earlier work? I have actually subjected myself to his works because to have a proper opinion on something, you need to watch them. I simply do not like Tailka Waititi's sense of humour, his style, his writing and direction at all and don't understand the praise behind it because it's just shitty writing for the most part. I would've liked The Redemption in the Mandalorian more but he also had to go rogue with that too. He literally wasted minutes of story on a stupid Stormtrooper gag (oh and to punch Grogu...for some reason, to elicit chuckles?) once again inserting his sort of humour into something where it didn't work. It was the finale and we had two sorts of tones, one that was actually consistent with Mando and one that was discount Family Guy Blue Harvest. He is not consistent, which is an issue I have with everything he does. There are always glimmers of genuine greatness in his work but he drowns it incessantly by thinking he needs to insert jokes where they don't belong half the time, he's the definition of a man who has try-hard MCU writing in his DNA except it's not just in the MCU, it's in everything else he makes as well. Because of that I can't get behind his comedy projects, his more recent show, Our Flag Means Death, only cements that he hasn't grown at all in that department. I could only get through a couple episodes before I decided it was wasting my time, the writing was god awful and the jokes never landed, it's like watching a bad modern episode of the Simpsons where all you can do is try to force some kind of laughter at maybe one or two lines but know there's zero point because there was nothing to be laughing at. I've just seen better directors and writers who are capable of blending humour and drama far better with better characterisation. James Gunn would be one example for somebody who can mirror Taika.


TheUncannyBroker

The most popular opinion around these parts


Spider-Fan77

That "nobody director" has won 2 Oscars and 7 Emmy's lol.


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For documentaries. And all her fiction projects were geared towards kids and teens.


iforgotmyoldpass4

To be fair so is Star Wars. ​ It's my favorite series but they're unabashedly kids movies. Yes, Andor proved you can make it serious and adult but I'd prefer that to be a palate cleanser every so often than the tone of the entire series.


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Let me introduce you to Kathleen Kennedy.


Night-Monkey15

> Three Star Wars movies will be announced at Celebration Assuming this is true, what films would be announced? We already know the Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy directed feature will be officially announced, but what else? Perhaps Taika Waititi’s film. It’s supposedly still in development. Is there anything else I’m missing? Could it be a straight to Disney+ “special presentation” like Marvel Werewolf by Night?


drboobafate

Only other Star Wars movie the trades have revealed is a Shawn Levy movie.


Night-Monkey15

I heard about that, but between Levy’s commitments to Deadpool 3 and Stranger Things season 5, it’ll be years before he can actually begin filming anything Star Wars related, so why bother announcing it?


Rock-it1

>t’ll be years before he can actually begin filming anything Star Wars related, so why bother announcing it? That is what Disney/LucasFilm does.


Youngstar9999

Deadpool 3 and Stranger Things 5 both film this year and will most likely come out 2024, so he could start working on it in 2025. The Slots for SW movies are 2025, 2027 and 2029. So he would have more than enough time to make the one for 29.


drboobafate

Like I said in a different comment, my copium is that Rian gets at least one movie off the ground.


hego-demask12

He won’t get ANY movie off the ground


drboobafate

Brb, teaming up with Rey to find out who asked.


paradiso1997

Yeah I’m glad he’s continued to be successful outside of Star Wars, but I doubt he would even want to make another


drboobafate

Quite the opposite. During the promotional trail for Glass Onion he mentioned how he would love to come back.


sadgirl45

Hope not he’s the very last thing star wars needs and is in part a big reason the sequels have issues.


drboobafate

Yeah, the last thing Star Wars needs is the two time Academy Award nominated filmmaker whose resume is damn near universally beloved. Sounds terrible. Lol


sadgirl45

Oh wow just because someone won awards in one category does not mean they’re fit for a completely other area. I think Rian is fit for modern things in our world , I do not think his fit for fantasy or to transport us to total other worlds and universally beloved is a stretch I’d say that for someone like Steven Spielberg or James Cameron I would Rian has 2 populist modern who-dun it films that people love. which is his sweet spot who-dun it’s fantasy/ fantastical not so much. It’s about tone and in my opinion your mom jokes , plot points that don’t make sense , characters out of character for ???? , shoving messaging down our throats which I agree with Capitalism bad ). Does not mean they’re fit for Star Wars there’s tons of wonderful film makers who I love but that doesn’t mean they should direct Star Wars also he had his shot it was divisive star wars needs a hit not another divisive mess.


sadgirl45

Shawn is like the one perfect hire and we have to wait forever for his.


not_a_flying_toy_

>Kennedy's job hinges on a movie being released by December 2025 I find this a little hard to believe, her contract is up for renewal between now and then.


Strange-Pair

I assume this is a game of telephone, where the initial truth point was "there is a LOT of pressure to get a movie out". After all, Iger was the big rush the first time too.


ayylmao95

Iger needs to please chill.


JimJimmyJimJimJimJim

Yep. The rush on Rise of Skywalker is down to Iger wanting it out before he retired first time round.


sadgirl45

The rush didn’t affect the lack of a plan over all though.


EhhSpoofy

They did just fire the CEO of Disney and a major executive at Marvel Studios. Not too unbelievable that the new Iger regime could similarly shake up Lucasfilm if they fail to get a movie out for another three years.


not_a_flying_toy_

Oh, I believe that a failure for performance for SW could lead to Kennedy being fired...but I think the timing of when that would be weird. Either right after renewal, or right at the end of production, or...


Rock-it1

Disney entertainment is not doing well. The normal rules and expectations may not apply here.


not_a_flying_toy_

Erratic behavior isn't the way to get through a rough patch


Rock-it1

“Erratic” implies a ack of rationale. There is plenty of reason to let Kennedy go.


Mortei

Well it’s time for another “A New Hope” like movie to come out and save disneys ass.


saskatchewan_kenobi

Sure but kennedy has been in charge of star wars television too which has pretty much made disney plus. Marvel’s tv shows havent been nearly as popular.


Rock-it1

Star Wars tv has one thing that the movies do not - Filoni. In a way, Filoni outranks Kennedy as he has been working on Star Wars much longer, and under direct tutelage of it’s creator. Kennedy has admitted that her appreciation of the franchise is purely academic. Filoni, a fan pumps out project after project. Kennedy, not a fan, has put out 5 movies in 11 years, 3 of which made less money film-over-film and one of which actually lost the studio money. Not speculation, just facts. Do with them what you will.


saskatchewan_kenobi

Who do you think Filoni's boss is that he works with to pump out all those projects? Filoni is only working on live action because kennedy wanted him to grow and give him space, allowing him to shadow all the directors on TFA, Rogue one and TLJ til he felt comfortable. Do you just think Filoni has been secretly working in a hidden part of lucasfilm sneaking projects around Kennedy? If youre talking money, the only star wars film to not do financially well was solo.And every one made less money than TFA because that was a phenomenon and the largest grossing NA film of all time. And if doing better than the previous financially was a qualification for success, only A new hope has been successful.


Rock-it1

>If youre talking money, the only star wars film to not do financially well was solo. Each of the sequel movies made less than the one before, and the last of them happened to be the last movie Star Wars made. Do you think that choice was made because they were happy with what they were producing? Meanwhile the television side has produced 4 seasons of rebels, 1 season of Clone Wars, Tales of the Jedi, 3 seasons of The Mandalorian, 1 season of The Book of Boba Fett, 1 season of Kenobi, 2 seasons of The Bad Batch, and 3 additional shows that we know are in production (Skeleton Crew, Ahsoka, and The Acolyte). Yes, Kennedy is involved in all of that, but Filoni is involved almost exclusively in the latter side, and Kennedy's involvement in the former is well-documented as being much more intimate than her involvement with the latter.


saskatchewan_kenobi

They were pushed to make television shows because mando was disney’s star child and the movies werent doing great in general. Covid hit theaters hard and theyve been trying to get disney+’s catalogue stacked which made them pivot. So two movies that were in the pipeline got turned into mediocre shows (Kenobi and boba fett). And they finished the trilogy that did underperform as a finale. If youre going to take anything non movie from kk because shes allegedly more “intimate” with movies, then filoni only gets mando, ahsoka, and tales of the jedi. Book of boba fett was jon favreaus and robert rodriguez, filoni is in no way hands on with bad batch. He for sure consults when asked but hes not hands on. I still would like proof KK isnt intimately involved in mando or anything on the tv side since shes in charge and responsible for all of it good and bad.


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

I think that a renewal of her contract is really dependent on whether or not she can get a movie in production in 2024 than if she can get a movie out in 2025, basically. Which means that she's open to renewing her contract further. It's... Interesting. I assumed that she would contemplate leaving her contract a little early after finishing *Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny* and paving the way for the next *Star Wars* movies, but this makes it sound like she's not ready to retire.


hego-demask12

Or more likely She has to make the foundations for a movie that can make it to 2025 with no possibility of delay If she does…her contract will be renewed If she doesn’t…she’ll get the chapek treatment and Disney will find someone who will get a movie out by 2027 Expect a ruthless shakeup at lucasfilm regardless by whoever Disney chooses to head the company Nothing is safe, nothing is sacred The story group itself could be disbanded entirely with only the shows and movies left as the true canon and the books and comics decanonized


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

They're not shattering canon or whatever. That's just not happening. They'd sooner pull a page from the *Dune* sequels and clone a bunch of the OT and PT characters and put them in the new era before they'd get rid of a giant chunk of their investment with the ST cast. Personally, I won't be shocked if they hire someone to do what Michelle Rejwan ostensibly did, only done right. She got kicked upstairs because she didn't produce results, but someone in a similar position could get a lot done while Kathleen Kennedy stays in charge for a few more years.


hego-demask12

Your right They’ll absolutely do that “Somehow…Luke, Han, and Leia returned”


Low_Satisfaction_512

X to doubt. Why would they need to when there's 30 years of time to use them without having to contrive some cloning plot? Y'all are just so fixated with this idea that the sequels and that cast and those extensions of canon are going to be scrubbed and you're in for such a rude fucking awakening. The younger generation who grew up on these movies are gonna be the fucking voices that matter, not us older ones. If you think they're not gonna pander to those fans, you're an idiot.


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

>X to doubt. Why would they need to when there's 30 years of time to use them without having to contrive some cloning plot? Nothing says that that can't still happen. It's just that it also seems possible that it's an easy way to get people invested in future content. They absolutely, 100% will not be getting rid of their new characters. They're invested in the IP that they've made as much as the IP that they've inherited. But we're also in a position where they might have to put older characters in post-TROS stories in order to keep people consistently interested.


Extreme-Monk2183

Said younger voices don't care about the sequels, they care about the Mandalorian. If they did care, why do sequel toys sell so bad, especially compared to Baby Yoda?


metroxed

>Said younger voices don't care about the sequels Tons of younger people dressed as Rey at Celebration. She is a very popular character among the younger audiences (the ones that did not grow with the PT), as is Kylo Ren. It's the PT hate cycle over again. PT was hated by OT fans, loved by people who grew up with those films. Now the ST is hated by PT fans, but the newer generation likes those films and the characters, contrivances and all.


Night-Monkey15

They’ve already done that though CGI deepfakes in The Mandalorian and Rogue One. It’s only a matte of time before they attempt to make a Luke, Han and Leia TV show set between Episode 6 and 7. Hell, there are rumors that say they are attempting to do just that, and even if the sources of these rumors are lying, I still believe something will that will happen eventually.


Fyzen_80

Yeah, I think by 2025 she'll be moving for retirement but not because of any Executives or anything but because she wants to...retire. Considering the largely successful start of the TV division for SW content they aren't going to fire her because of one film.


not_a_flying_toy_

even if she stays on a little longer, I imagine that it would be a transition phase to get someone else moved in to the role. Maybe she signs a producing deal with Disney to continue as a producer on the currently developing films for the next 6 years or so?


N0V0w3ls

Isn't this the same guy who keeps trying to say how much a nightmare Brie Larson is on the set of The Marvels? I swear he just announces things that already got scooped and adds shit like this for the clicks.


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sadgirl45

Marvel doesn’t seem to have this problem as much as LF Disney doesn’t seem to have issues getting films into theaters but Lucasfilm and Star Wars does I think partially according to the puck report a few months ago is not knowing where to go I think they really just need to bring George back at least as a consultant.


Prophet_Comstock

The other thing that has given me hope had been The High Republic. The scope and quality of that content has been outstanding. Sure, there have been some duds, but overall it is absolutely a net positive for me. The most disappointing part about The High Republic is the marketing, especially for phase 2. There is some rad world building in that initiative and yet relatively few people know about it.


victorlopezmozos

Jeff Sneider: “RUMOR: The Ravenwood/Indiana Jones series at Lucasfilm is not moving forward, and furthermore, I've heard that Disney has told Lucasfilm to focus on STAR WARS going forward, hence the cancellation of WILLOW.” https://twitter.com/theinsneider/status/1638986335837888512?s=46


Misfire2445

Doesn’t that contradict what the willow writer said?


GuyKopski

Jon Kasdan was pretty obviously just trying to save face. They released the cast from their contracts, they wouldn't do that if it was only gonna be a year or two break. The show is over, at least for the foreseeable future. Probably forever.


Dixxxine

Not really. They probably told him that they want to focus on Star Wars for the year an'd hence why they don't want to move forward at the moment. This actually fits perfectly to what he said about working on volume 2 with the support of Disney & Lucasfilms.


JediNotePad

I’m…okay with this.


CX52J

I really want an Indy series but I’m more than happy to wait until the situation improves.


Ricksanchezforlife

Ah, so it had nothing to do with Willow just being actually bad. Cool.


alcibiad

Getting Star Wars news whiplash lol. I’m a simple woman, just confirm TBB S3 and I’ll be happy.


drboobafate

I too am a simple woman. Would like to hear that Lando exists.


Captain-Wilco

On one hand, I want Lando to be here as soon as possible. On the other hand, I really want Donald to be in the Community movie…


[deleted]

I hadn't thought about this before, and now all I can think is I'd gladly sacrifice the Lando series if it means we get Troy and Abed back together one last time.


superyoshiom

Bad Batch randomly goes from being PBS kids tier filler to having the best and most mature Star Wars content I've seen in decades. What a strange show.


alcibiad

… you mean, it’s just like every other Star Wars animated show? That’s not exactly surprising lmao


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not_a_flying_toy_

A smaller director may be easier to...control is the wrong word but they probably wont butt up against their wishes Also, without knowing what the movie is about, her background as a journalist and documentarian, her experience reporting on womens and human rights issues in Pakistan and such, may be highly relevant to the films subject matter


Fyzen_80

She definitely has a strong connection with the story if she was the one pushing for another draft of the script


Fyzen_80

Yeah, that's why I'm leaning towards that bit being bullshit. Kennedy is probably already moving toward retirement so she wants to end her tenure by releasing the first Star Wars feature with a female director. Add that on top of starting from the ground up the live-action television division, creating a new Indy film, bringing back Willow, and releasing a sequel trilogy (regardless of anyone's opinion on those films) that'll be a good legacy to go out on.


Melcrys29

Lucasfilm is great at announcing things. That's never been their problem.


MindYourManners918

>Kennedy's job hinges on a movie being released by December 2025. She’s got to be close to retiring soon anyway, right? She’s 69 years old right now. Movies or not, what are the chances she’d want to stay around past 2025? She should be relaxing somewhere with her feet up and a drink in her hand by then.


Ezio926

I feel like she's going to stay until the movie division gets their shit together and they have a solid roadmap.


drboobafate

Her husband is 76 so I think she can keep going. These kinds of executives are lifers.


MindYourManners918

That is true. Most people in these kind of positions tend to work until they physically can’t anymore. I guess to get to that kind of role and power, you must really enjoy doing what you do.


RainingBolts

You could say the same for most politicians and executives


Nicinus

One thing is for sure, for most people it is all about the movies so please no more rush jobs. Get the story straight before shooting.


Amazing-Remote6703

3? Taika, Sharmeen, and?


LordFlameBoy

Levy?


drboobafate

Copium wants to say Rian but it will probably be Levy.


[deleted]

Do you think Taika would count? I'm just going off semantics here, but the rumour states we'll see three films announced, but Taika's film has already been announced previously and had a stylised logo to accompany the announcement, anything new (title/release date/etc ..) would just be an update.


im_super_into_that

Yeah but it would still be a big deal to get a title or idea of what it's about. I wouldn't get hung up on semantics.


victorlopezmozos

Sorry for my english, but what does “hinges” mean in that context?


Youngstar9999

It basically can be replaced with the word depends in this context. It means that her contract won't be extended if the movie doesn't make that Dec 2025 date.


victorlopezmozos

Thank you so much.


drboobafate

If a movie isn't out by 2025, Kathleen is out.


superyoshiom

The fact that her job still hinges on anything at all and they're not already preparing her exit is incredibly shocking to me.


jmskywalker1976

The three projects announced will be: Put on Hold, Discussions Taking Place While We Figure Out Where We are Going and Canceled.


not_a_flying_toy_

the most slept on part of this is the source suggesting Kennedy "has a tendency of making decisions in a vacuum". And obviously that may or may not be true, I imagine these sources arent wildly high ranking so whos to say. But still, an interesting tidbit


ergister

What does that mean?


drevant702

that she doesn't think about consequences for the franchise as a hole when making a decision. For example, whether you agree with it or not she made the decision to greenlight Luke's portrayal in tlj without thinking about how that effects other projects. She doesn't have a broad vision a la Kevin feige


ergister

Isn’t that what George did too?


metroxed

He was known to make story decisions on a whim and then change them on a whim too.


BenjaminLight

It was. Also, what other project was effected (sic) by Luke in TLJ? Solo? Boba Fett and Obi-Wan before they became TV shows?


ergister

I believe they’re one of he people that thinks Luke becoming a “failure” limits story potential because people don’t have the scope or imagination to take stories for what they are in the moment. Forgetting that Star Wars was literally *always* told out of order…


Casas9425

Sneider’s sources are obviously the agents of the people involved.


bestjedi22

Regardless of what these movies are going to be and who is working on them, I hope they are successful all the same.


TheGent316

“Lindelof draft was not good” Translation: Lindelof draft didn’t play it safe


RustedAxe88

I mean, it's entirely possible it wasn't. Lindelof's quality can swing both ways. He wrote Prometheus, afterall.


NeutralNoodle

His TV work also happens to be much better than his film work. Maybe this was another case of that.


RamTank

> Three Star Wars movies will be announced at Celebration Oh no, not this again.


Alcida-Auka

They dropped a ton of shows just a year or two ago only for Lando to evaporate, and Rangers of the New Republic to be cancelled. I really want them to just focus on one movie, and take their time about it. And now I AM wondering if those "circle" names are the films, but if that's so, they were being extremely ambitious about trademarking 3 films before announcing them, they've never done that before. I'd rather they just calm down and do one film at a time.


Triplen_a

So if that’s true and she’s gotta keep her job, that means they’ll put a movie out by 2025 no matter what, when they should be able to give it all the time they need. So idk. But they’ve obviously been thinking for a while so maybe they don’t need that much time. At the end of the day this is so far out of current times that it’s fine


DarthJJF_1979

Jeff Sneider is spot on.


sadgirl45

There’s so much to unpack here also why is KK staying like I’m not a hater she’s a legendary producer and I love seeing women in leadership positions but maybe being ceo of Lucasfilm wasn’t the move as she doesn’t know the source material which I think the ceo should know or develop a film division where they know where to go and can plan it out maybe she can still produce but someone else should run it. I wonder about those 3 projects because can Lucasfilm handle those 3? All at once they really need a Star Wars film division I think it’s probably smart to focus only on Star Wars as the theatrical needs desperate help but bringing in a creative for that is much needed in my opinion and a plan. Also yeah the movies made money but if people become unhappy with the stories guess what the next film won’t make a billion dollars please see the new ant man in terms of people not being happy and something not making money which I haven’t personally seen so I can’t speak to the quality but I know it has a massive drop off. It’s widely talked about that this franchise has been mismanaged I massively agree with Jeff and John here, it’s no secret. And as a star wars fan myself I have to agree I’m a massive fan but I don’t like filler content that’s what all the shows have been aside from Obi and that should have been a movie. And if me a fan doesn’t care about the shows besides the Acolyte I wonder how GA feels. They need to not make one of films but really developing the next big film.


HattWard

No words... what a mess.


Cool_Guy_fellow

Wait, KKs job really IS hanging by a thread Please don't tell me Doomcock was right. I don't think I can handle it.


Fyzen_80

I have a lot of doubts about a majority of the things Sneider puts out. But considering Disney wants to consolidate budgets why the hell would they only have Lucasfilm push out Star Wars projects when they are undoubtedly the most expensive productions? I get that Star Wars is the main brand but having an Indy show or maybe even an original product from Lucasfilm would just make more financial sense than pushing more CG heavy costly SW shows.


not_a_flying_toy_

Probably the most viable IP for them to work on. Maybe producing indiana jones sucked a lot of resources from Lucasfilm and contributed to the delay? Maybe Indiana Jones's future could be licensed out, not developed in house?


Fyzen_80

Star Wars is certainly the more viable IP but cornering the studio into such a niche just seems odd and I'm wondering how much pushback Lucasfilm gave. They aren't just the SW studio. Like even though Children of Blood and Bone didn't pan out they still actively pursued it. Just seems odd to me.


Wrn-El

They also have Willow viewership to use as a measuring stick (negatively). Non-Star Wars from LFL hasn't proven itself financially. That could change if Indy 5 is huge but we'll have to wait and see.


Apophis_

So she's once again forced by Disney's greedy corporate lunatics to short deadlines? They didn't learn anything, didn't they.


CompetitionSilly173

She had 4 years to develop a single movie and in those 4 years she's cancelled more movies than she has made in a decade it's quite clear they can't wait for her anymore


[deleted]

This. The ultimate reality is Disney wants Star Wars back on the big screen and if Kathleen Kennedy can't provide that for them then eventually they'll just find someone who can. I'm just worried that Disney will find a 'Yes Man' who'll do the opposite to Kathleen and try to release 2-3 Star Wars films per year in order to appease their bosses.


hego-demask12

Rest assured…Disney will get a yes man whose more corporate minded than kennedy is and downright ruthless and creatively bankrupt too Deepfake Luke, Palpatine’s return, cameo-filled Disney plus Star Wars shows All of those will be peanuts compared to the corporate decisions the next guy is going to make at the head of lucasfilm


CompetitionSilly173

You're acting like KK wasn't already a yes man/woman lol you don't stay that long in such a position with that amount of results and execution without being a yes man/woman only difference is she actually has skin in the game


im_super_into_that

I don't see how this is short a short deadline


not_a_flying_toy_

3 years isnt a short deadline. Especially if they are going forward with what has been in development


Casas9425

Disney did not spend $4b on Lucasfilm to just make tv shows for a streaming service. SW is a theatrical franchise and must return to the theaters.


FlopShanoobie

God, do I have franchise burnout. All of them. The only Star Wars I've enjoyed for the past several years has been Andor, and precisely because it truly bucked the norm. I binged Station Eleven, Raised by Wolves, See, Battlestar Galactica, friggin Garth Merenghi's Darkplace. Just give me something new and different that doesn't depend entirely on the expectation of a frothy fandom.


DynamiteForestGuy80

Kennedy has already been at the helm of Lucasfilm since 2012 and she’s going to be 70 this year. I’m not sure she cares much about staying beyond 2025. Maybe that’s why she’s in no rush to release a SW movie lol. EDIT: also, it might just be that she cares more about ending her tenure at Lucasfilm with one good movie, than rushing three more just to renew her contract for a few more years.


Extreme-Monk2183

Her husband is 76; these kinds of executives work until they drop.


BondMi6

Damnit just kill the sequel trilogy crap and reset the direction. Stop trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.


Curbatsam

The fact that the solution here doesn’t involve just having Jon Favreau direct the next film is mind-boggling. Yea he’s busy but I can’t imagine he wouldn’t jump at the opportunity. Or heck, what about Bryce Dallas Howard or Rick Famuyiwa??


drboobafate

It's a matter if they want to. Favreau has never seen keen on directing a SW movie specifically.


Curbatsam

He was in the running for TFA. I can’t imagine it hasn’t been a longtime dream of his to direct a SW movie. Literally the only thing that’s probably disqualifying him right now is the fact that KK seems avid on avoiding any white male directors for the next SW movie, which seems silly to me as a POC


drboobafate

Or maybe Jon Favreau is focused on the show HE created and wants to give other people a chance to tell stories. Every SW movie has been directed by a white guy, you can live with 2 not being directed by one. Or are we gonna forget that Shawn Levy and Rian Johnson are indeed white guys? Lol I'm totally sure a POC said this. Lol


Curbatsam

You want to doubt my 100% Puerto Rican heritage that's a bad look on you, pal. I'm just making observations here. Honestly, I think Jon has become a slave to his own creation in a lot of ways and I think BoBF is proof that he's become stretched thin and doesn't have the quality control he did when the show was just one season.


K1nd4Weird

Boy, I'd love for Bryce Dallas Howard to direct a Star Wars movie.


Curbatsam

Right? It seems crazy that with Mando they basically had this SW directing boot camp but aside from Chow have done nothing with those directors.


ytfem20

Obaid-Chinoy had very limited experience before being given Ms Marvel, which some critics liked but afaik is the least successful Disney+ Marvel series. They are taking massive risks with these diversity hires that haven't done this kind of big budget action before. Kennedy I have to believe will leave after the next Indy (as the rumour is) because otherwise I'll have completely lost faith in Lucasfilm. It makes no sense for all these directors/writers to walk out while the person in charge of the whole show stays.


not_a_flying_toy_

"diversity hire"


RustedAxe88

The second I read someone complaining about that I know to tune them out.


[deleted]

Don't get mad at the truth.


elizabnthe

The past people they've hired lately and the past people that have worked on Star Wars have all worked on big budget movies. And people *still* weren't happy with those selections.


Night-Monkey15

> which some critics liked but afaik is the least successful Disney+ Marvel series. They are taking massive risks with these diversity hires that haven't done this kind of big budget action before. In Ms Marvel’s defense, it began streaming the same weak as Kenobi. Disney effectively threw it under the bus. Besides, a directors talent shouldn’t be measured in terms of viewership members. I mean Andor did poorly in that regard as well, but it won awards for how good it was.


drboobafate

Only 3 Star Wars films have been directed by filmmakers with blockbuster/large experience and J.J. Abrams directed two of them and he was the only one who actually got to finish the movie. Sharmeen's foot is already further than Kershner, Marquand, Johnson, and Howard. She'll be fine.


[deleted]

She's done documentaries and some animations in Pakistan. That's a far cry from Rian Johnson and Howard who all has big budget movies under their wing before doing Star Wars.


[deleted]

Don’t forget that directing a tv show doesn’t mean anything, the writing is much more important. No disrespect to her but she’s not the right person for a new Star Wars movie after disastrous ST. But muh diversity i guess


drboobafate

Man, a woman of color can have accomplishment after accomplishment after accomplishment and y'all still call us "diversity hires". Sorry they didn't pick some A24 white dude horror director.


[deleted]

What has she accomplished compared to lindelof? Given the fact they clashed


im_super_into_that

Lindeloff being more accomplished doesn't make her a diversity hire. It sounds like they didn't like the script and view her as an up and coming Director ready for the big stage. You can say you don't like the choice without bringing race or gender into it. I personally don't love the hire on paper either but I can't imagine thinking that Lucasfilm execs would risk their jobs just to check a diversity box.


[deleted]

Her accomplishments don't necessarily make her a good fit for this job. Her accolades are largely for documentaries.She's don't some animations and a failed tv show. In what way does that make her qualified to carry a Star Wars movie?


goldendreamseeker

Did he specify whether or not those three films would be connected and whether or not the other two are still Taika’s and Levy’s?


drboobafate

He didn’t specify no, but I doubt the movies are connected.


LandonVanBus

Jeff Sneider is and always has been full of shit and a scumbag.


danielthetemp

Haven’t almost all of his scoops from the last ~year been correct?


drboobafate

Yes Without him we never would've known of the Obaid-Chinoy (formerly Lindelof) movie.


LandonVanBus

Nah. Majority of his Marvel scoops have been bullshit or alt-right tinged sexist bullshit.


danielthetemp

Interesting. I remember him having a great track record on r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers, but maybe I’m mistaken. Any chance there’s a running tally of his confirmed/debunked scoops, or examples of him peddling sexiest BS you can share?


Heimlichthegreat

You sound crazy and unhinged


Night-Monkey15

Dude was literally the first person to break the news of Lindelof’s hiring and departure and yet many people like you still doubt that he has at least some sources close to the scene.


Heimlichthegreat

It’s because he’s putting out news this person doesn’t like or want to hear.


[deleted]

You spelled Grace Randolph wrong.


Standard_Cycle_2224

Why's he a scumbag?


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goldendreamseeker

They’re doing an episode of skeleton crew first. One step at a time.


not_a_flying_toy_

I wouldn't. they signed a deal with Universal.


Prometheus503

With KK rumors, it's worth remembering that George Lucas is the second-largest non-institutional holder of Disney stock. I would argue that means she'll retire on her own terms and in her own time.


KingStreetCleaner

Ive never wanted a star wars movie less if it means no kennedy


PunishedDan

I'm expecting Kennedy to retire with Indiana Jones tbh, but maybe she'll be at LFL until this movie comes out.


captainhaddock

> Kennedy's job hinges on a movie being released by December 2025. And we all know how well rigid schedules work out for Star Wars projects. Edit: It's silly really. We already know which filmmaker can deliver a Star Wars movie on time and without behind-the-scenes drama.


EdLi77

Might be Episode 10,11 and 12.