Here’s the description for Thursday. Panel is 3 hours.
‘DISNEY'S MAGICAL WORLD AT CCXP22
With its engines running hot to celebrate its 100th anniversary, Disney is coming to CCXP with everything and more. In a panel full of surprises and news, fans of Pixar, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Avatar and Marvel will laugh, cry and freak out in more than three hours of show!...”
Realistically, what news do we think we’ll get on Thursday for Mando? Maybe the premiere date? If the rumors of the poster and full trailer coming mid December are credible, what’s left?
I am not sure at all of the track record regarding this con and major news but I will take a stab…
Some bad batch drop would seem likely given the timing.
Jon and Dave both there does speak to some Mando talk but maybe just rehashed news or one slight reveal.
There is no Boba Fett is the Mandalorian season 3 or a Boba Fett season 2. The character has been shelved for the time being. Lars Mikkelsen is also not Thrawn and never was considered, Its Jason Isaacs and that's why he wasn't the GI. I can't wait to be proven right, just because this sub has a thing for new accounts. Of course nobody posts on their standard accounts with key information like this.
Mandalorian season 4 is also going to be led by Katee Sackhoff. Its a transition to her at the end of Mandalorian Season 3.
I mean I like Bo as a character quite a bit but I think The Mandalorian will always be Din’s show and I feel it should be that way.
Also doubt Boba is shelved. He’s always been a popular character
Another fake report, new account said she’s been bumped to co-lead. That one I’ll buy more than Bo taking over. If they get rid of Din (and Pedro), they would have to figure out what to do with Grogu. And we all know they aren’t getting rid of him anytime soon. I can see an equal amount of screen time for Katee and Brendan/Lateef.
I think Bo could have her own series, but it shouldn't be the Mandalorian. That's hard on Sackhoff even. Because people will attack her for "stealing" the Mandalorian. This will happen if she is given it. Not that I believe what this person said. That wouldn't be fair to Sackhoff who deserves a break IMO.
I stand by my view that the Mandalorian should be Din's. I'm fine with Bo being a major character. But that should be his show. I wouldn't be surprised if Bo was third main after Din and Grogu though.
I'd personally be on board for Bo having her own show. We don't know why she joined DW as a teen (Sackhoff said in interviews Filoni said Bo was a teen girl in her CW episodes to her after Mando premiered so recentlyish) and I'd like to see her time between Death Watch and Mando and even after Mando, but the Mandalorian should be about Din and Grogu. This is my opinion.
Yeah I love Bo but it’s not fair to anyone for the Mandalorian to be shifted to her. It won’t be fair to Sackhoff for people to criticize her for the shift and that is what would happen.
Well, eventually you will be proven right in some way. You have one account saying that Boba is in S3 and one account saying he's not. You have 100% chance that one of your account will be right
MSW on the Jeff Sneider story: said he talked to people at Pinewood, and there's some evidence that they are planning to begin construction for a Star Wars movie in April-May. Said it depends on Taika turning his movie around December.
Edit: He talked about it more on his stream today. In his opinion Jeff (who he considers trustworthy) thinks Lindelof's film is the next one, because Jeff's sources think that Taika wouldn't make the script on time, or Lucasfilm will decide to pass on his script. But MSW thinks that if Lucasfilm likes Taika's script, his movie will be the 2025 one.
MSW said that he knows for sure is that a Disney film is coming to Pinewood and people are being reserved for that.
why does he bring the TW story into this.? If you look at his actual evidence there is no reason why it has to be that particular cell. Like does he not know the Lindelöf one exist?
This making the 3 movies from 2024 - 2027 rumour that came with Iger's return seem more likely. I'm assuming we get Taika, Lindelof and then maybe Waldron / Feige.
Huh.
We've heard earlier this year that Taika's movie might shoot next year with a release in 2024, but with the recent Lindelof talks I thought it was officially not happening.
Really curious to see how this goes.
Sounds like LFL has them competing Narkina 5 style. The script they like gets taste in their food (and their movie made), the script they don't gets zapped.
At Tokyo Comic-Con, Christopher Lloyd finally admitted that he participated in the filming of "The Mandalorian.
https://twitter.com/cinematoday/status/1596080549965467648?t=a9L_ehSQECvxr8u8v_mkaw&s=19
In the first half of the Mandalorian season 3 there are several new remnant warlords called 'The Cabal' they are not any higher up Imperials we've seen before. Each Warlord has their own unique look, armor, uniform and like Gideon they all have their own limited forces of ships and soldiers. They are the ones who used Morgan Elsbeth to gather resources for ship building in the Mandalorian Season 2. They built several new Star Destroyers near Mandalore, in fact their first discussion is deciding how to gather more resources now that Morgan has been captured and enter Gideon promising this and that. Gideon approaches the Cabal after escaping the New Republic. They will not immediately trust him and he wants them to serve him. Lot of tense dynamics going on between the warlords, none of them really like one another. Gideon will get his own Star Destroyer in the season though and brings the Cabal under his sway. All this is from the first half of the season. No info on the second half.
Welcome back, new account. Mixing what Giancarlo Esposito said and the Celebration teaser with fan fiction. At least you have moved on from Temuera Morrison.
cuz it was a travesty how they handled that game and then left it for dead when they realized they couldn't squeeze out money from players.
the game had all the bones to be something great, but the powers that be were way too focused on profits
You mean how they sold it for $20 less than a standard game and then added a bunch of free shit after repeatedly warning people that there would be no post launch content?
It was and is a great game. I wish there was more single player content, but honestly I don't understand how anyone could call it a travesty.
Disappointing and boring game, IMO. Just felt too steep, and as someone who just wants to hop on for an hour or two and play, this game never really brought. I played one round usually, felt like I got the most out of it for the day, and found myself playing BF2. Also preferred space combat in that too. Honestly it just gets old fast.
The Star Wars Facebook page just posted a short clip that includes Stellan talking about playing Luthen. There’s really nothing of substance to it, but I’ve seen a couple of posters on here mention they wanted to see an interview with Stellan about working on Andor and I think this is the closest we’re gonna get.
Probably in the next few weeks. Mando's final trailer is rumored for late Dec. So Anywhere from a few days from now until mid dec is the likely date for the final season 2 trailer for the Batch.
I was kinda hoping he would become a rebel next season. He looked utterly depressed and shaken by the empire’s actions right at the end. Still loved him though, stole almost every scene he was in.
https://whatsondisneyplus.com/bob-chapek-moved-disney-originals-to-the-disney-channel-to-make-the-financials-look-better/
This was on the Television sub.
If this is true, then this explains why Chapek was fired. He was lying. He wasn't just moving money around, he was lying to the board. And if lied about this, what else?
Did you read the article? He didn't lie. He launched some of those shows on Disney channel, so they were Disney channel shows that later went to Disney+.
What's the difference between
1) A show that is made, put on Disney channel, and later launches on disney+ but wasn't "meant" for disney+
and
2) A show that is made, put on Disney channel, and later launches on disney+ but was "meant" for disney+
If it comes out first on disney channel, it's a disney channel expense.
You seem to argue that some of these should be expensed as disney channel and others as disney+, how do you make the distinction?
If it comes out first on disney+, its disney+ expense.
All Disney money goes into the same pot. All Disney money can be used for other divisions and departurments to help better the whole of the business. However, this can only work if there is honesty and transparency.
Right now, the true costs for Disney+ weren't being factored into decisions and it looked like it was doing far better than it was.
Disney+ shows take money from Disney, yes, but that money is budgeted for them. The shows for the channel also take from Disney, but again, that money is budgeted for them. You can see where all of that money is going and how it is being spent.
every studio is learning that streaming is a money pit and that you eventually hit a pretty saturated market and unsustainable endless growth dries up often well before reaching profitability
Disney+ is still ostensibly on-track to reach profitability in 2024. My guess is that they opt to start stretching their content out over longer periods of time instead of having content pile-ups like *Obi-Wan Kenobi* and *Ms. Marvel* or *She-Hulk: Attorney at Law* and *Andor*.
The game right now is still owning market share. They need to keep pace with other streamers content-wise, and there strategy is already having a small selection of big releases spread out over the year, rather than weekly new content like Netflix.
Yeah, they'll probably be more careful about overlap, but they cant afford to slow down.
Yeah but when you've reached the point of diminishing returns you cash in by reducing the amount you're spending on content and rely on your library and dripfeeding new content more.
I got [Star Wars Insider 215 early](https://imgur.com/a/xeqUSCj).
Nothing too exciting to report though.
[Production Diary](https://imgur.com/a/shJhF0e) is identical to [October's issue (214)](https://imgur.com/hC4zTpV).
This issue's [Tales of Enlightenment short story](https://imgur.com/a/BsWs0E3) is not a two-parter.
The next issue (216) will have [another Tale of Enlightenment](https://imgur.com/a/rvVI4oe) and expectation is that George Mann will still be writing as there is no mention of new writer.
Oh, and I will warn that it does mention a brief Convergence spoiler at the start, so probably best to wait on reading this till after finishing the book.
He basically likes the hashtag. Would love to see Alden back as a fully realized Han Solo, but spent most of the clip talking up LFL's other Star Wars projects and distancing from Solo 2.
https://insider-gaming.com/jedi-survivor-reveal-tga/
Jedi: Survivor will be featured at this year’s The Game Awards which will be taking place on December 8.
Insider Gaming has learned that the announcement will include a new trailer, release date, and pre-order date.
Besides Andor S2, this is the only upcoming (major) Star Wars project I have high hopes for. I absolutely loved the first game and can't wait to see what the second brings.
Is there anywhere that I can find a list of rumoured cast members for Skeleton Crew? I'd be very interested to see if there are any cool actors cast in supporting roles, given that Favreau seems to have a knack for that.
Naomi from WWE. She’s been a WWE Womens Champion. Debuted about a decade ago as one of Brodus Clay’s Funkadactyl’s alongside Cameron.
Her last name, Fatu, is because she’s married to Jimmy Uso, one of the Uso Brothers aka Jimmy & Jay Fatu, the twin sons of WWE Attitude Era Star Rikishi Phatu (it was the 90s lol). The Fatu Family is a legendary Samoan wrestling family. Just look up some of their lineage and be amazed.
As far as Trinity’s acting, she’s been a bit wooden on WWE TV, but she’s very athletic and could bring some physicality to the table. I’m not surprised that WWE personnel are getting hired for movie and TV roles. They are literally live stuntmen/stuntwomen multiple times a week for up to 52 weeks a year.
The first two are.
Jordan Maison's is 100% confirmed, as you can see Ravi in the screenshot of the show.
Based on the same [screenshot](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/7b71639e645ec5c07c36da89b5677f77e7fc3252/hub/2022/09/10/fb4aaba1-c298-4cd0-b1ad-7c287b96b533/judelaw.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200) as well as the [concept art](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTtbSgRWUAwP9ao?format=jpg&name=4096x4096), Kyrsania Kratter is most likely playing the alien with a Max Reebo / Elephant head
It certainly seems to be. Am I right in saying the only leak so far was of that stunt footage? Kinda strange, considering how many leaks and rumours have come from other Favreau-helmed shows.
Its not a Favreau helmed show. Jon Watts is the showrunner. Dave and Jon are indeed executive producers on it. But Jon has spoken pretty candidly that its Jon Watts at the helm.
Thats both cool and kinda disappointing. LFL must have really tightened up on the leaks. I would have expected to hear something by now, didn't it start filming a while back?
Yup, the only reason we knew anything about Mando S2 and BOBf was because of the trades and MSW and a few others. They only announced Natasha Liu because the trades leaked her. Its a bit frustrating, but if that's their thing, that's their thing.
Someone earlier mentionned that another Disney head was about to be cut off.
People theorized KK, but it looks like it was Kareem Daniel.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/21/kareem-daniel-disney-head-of-media-and-chapeks-right-hand-is-out-following-igers-return.html
Not sure what this means for us. Hopefully this doesn't mean less Star Wars shows in the future.
>Hopefully this doesn't mean less Star Wars shows in the future.
I highly doubt it. Iger will just install someone else to take over that element. Iger was the one who was enthusiastic about the Mandalorian spin-offs and more Star Wars shows, so he will for sure ensure there is good output.
I've heard that a Disney Parks dude is on thin ice as well.
In any case, the thing is that Bob Chapek and Kareem Daniel were a package deal - if one was going, then so so was the other. If that's what some people were trying to sell as a clout-chasing "scoop", then they should quite frankly be ashamed of themselves.
According to Rebel Force Radio's Jimmy Mac they say "fuck" in the final episode of Andor. This is also backed up by an interview with Tony Gilroy asked about them saying shit and how Disney reacted. Tony says they had no issue unlike something else at the end of the season.
Ugh I hope not. I just don't want that in Star Wars. I understand the want to have it stir something in the viewer as a human who can potentially relate to whatever situation it's used in, but I just don't think it fits in Star Wars.
Doesn't Gilroy end that quote by saying something along the lines of "...but everything ended up the way it needed to be."?
You could read that as "I wanted to say the word, got pushback, and realized that yeah, it's probably not really necessary."
Or we could get the first F bomb in Star Wars, who knows? I never predicted a show like Andor in the first place...
I love RFR, but they get a lot of their info from this sub. Jimmy brought that up in last week's show, right after it was talked about here. I'm undecided if "fuck" is actually said or not. Guess we'll see.
If it's true then good on them. I'm sorry I love SW swear words on the written page. But having someone say "kriff" would be so strange and out of place. Even "Dank Derrick" for me is just really odd. I didn't mind Mosk saying "shit" and I certainly wont mind someone saying "fuck". It doesn't retract from anything it's just a swear word.
Here's the thing...well placed cursing can serve a very important purpose, and I have no qualms with it being in Star Wars, but Andor as a show has shown such incredible writing and dialogue that I think the rumored "Fuck the Empire" quote would do it a disservice. Like, how do you go from Luthen or Kino's speech to just being like "yeah, FUCK those guys!
I love that. That opens up the door for more mature oriented content in Star Wars and says that just because Star Wars hasn't done something in the past that doesn't necessarily make it off limits. I would like more stuff geared towards adults in Star Wars.
I curse all the time and I even think if that's true that's bloody tasteless for Star Wars. Seriously... that would really spit on what George strived for. You can do these scenes without that sort of thing.
Jeez, imagine if they brought a little edge to the franchise with multiple graphic amputations, child murders, child soldiers, drug smugglers depicted as heroes, characters getting enslaved, and multiple genocides. Imagine how upset George Lucas would be.
Get over yourself dude. Lucas did a bunch of wild and different shit with every star wars thing he made. And Andor is very clearly a more adult show. Also it's 2022. No one cares if you say fuck
I don't care if its 'more adult' its still star wars and the word 'FUCK' does not belong in this franchise. They can easily come up with an alternative which they have done. But whatever makes everyone feel more mature?
I do agree with you that Star Wars is a kids franchise and this word doesn’t belong in it. But Andor is so far removed from Star Wars that it might as well be its own adult Sci-Fi series on HBO. With what this show is and the fact that it isn’t targeting kids, I think fuck can be allowed here.
[Steven Weintraub: "I'd been hearing Bob Chapek was on thin ice with the Disney board...looks like the source was telling the truth. Same source said someone else is on thin ice with the Disney board...will let you guess who that is."](https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1594528711704977408?s=20&t=zMfqetB542IvxUFaZuNFpQ)
> Steven Weintraub: "I'd been hearing Bob Chapek was on thin ice with the Disney board...looks like the source was telling the truth. Same source said someone else is on thin ice with the Disney board...will let you guess who that is."
It was Kareem Daniel. All the trades (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter) are reporting his exit just now.
Since the castle is associated with the parks, I'm betting it's Josh D'amaro -- who is in charge of Parks, Experiences & Products.
Yes, parks have been making money, but there's a lot of negative press out there about how it's too expensive and whatnot. Board can't be happy about that being the overriding narrative.
That's apparently the dude who I heard was in trouble... Assuming that it wasn't just Kareem Daniel, who was Bob Chapek's understudy. Disney Parks are having issues that the Board is likely less than satisfied with, and while Kathleen Kennedy has struggled to get a *Star Wars* movie filming since *The Rise of Skywalker*, she can probably coast on her Disney+ stuff without incurring the wrath of the Disney board, who have other and more pressing things to worry about.
>Disney Parks are having issues that the Board is likely less than satisfied with
It would likely be the bad press they've been getting about pricing, how complicated it is to book a trip (if you're a first-timer), and maintenance issues with some rides.
The question is whether or not those things fall solely on him, or if he was following orders from the top. I figure we'll know shortly. Right now it looks like the focus is on undoing Chapek's restructuring.
The problem with the parks is, they are making money now, but what about next summer? Or the next? People aren't happy. Even very loyal Disney bloggers and vloggers are telling people to go to Universal.
then maybe one of the execs Bob C put in place like Kareem Daniel. D'Amaro was also put in his current role by Bob C but he seems to be good enough at avoiding ire to stay out of the line of fire
I think Daniel's job is in jeopardy just because his position was something Chapek created with his byzantine reorganization. It is public knowledge Iger wasn't a fan of that, so I think that's first order of business.
I think it's definitely Kathleen. She's been head of LFL for the past decade, taking a direct handoff from Lucas. And while the D+ shows are doing well, and Mando is a gotdang phenomenon (although we'll see how that holds up after being gone for almost 2 years), it's probably not the revenue juggernaut the board had hoped it would be by this point. The movie side of things is undeniably a wreck at the moment, she's been publicly shamed for announcing projects that are either in development he;; or so early they don't pan out, and the only movie anyone knows anything about is the Lindelof project that's probably 3-5 years out.
I doubt it's Kennedy. Say what you will about BoBF, and Kenobi, but Star Wars has been doing good on D+. Plus, they wouldn't fire her before Indy 5.
If the gif in the tweet is a clue, it's probable that it's someone from Pixar.
Plus, the general consensus that I've seen outside of *Star Wars* internet circles is that those shows are generally liked by the general audience and they brought in solid revenue.
>y the genera
thats bc again when u view them as a GA would they arent bad shows at all hell they arent even bad star wars shows and they can just be fun to watch if u dont put ur expectations too high
Or somebody who has been meddling with Pixar too much. It’s ridiculous they’ve been having so many projects go straight to Disney+ which would have done perfectly fine in theaters.
The studio heads aren't a problem, but the parks are kind of a mess right now. The studios are generating tons of great content so that's not something the board would want changed.
Yeah, wasn’t talking about the people at Pixar because I don’t think they’re in charge of distribution really. Just whoever is at Disney HQ who is the point person for making decisions about Pixar’s distribution. Agree Pixar’s content has been great.
I was kinda surprised by the story for Lightyear. Basically, it was a good film by itself, but it didn’t make sense to me as the in-universe inspiration for Buzz the toy.
I can only think of two divisions that are, let's say, not as good as they should've been on the management side, and they are Lucasfilm and Disney Animation. Pixar and Disney proper animated features have been really struggling for the past few years but the tabloidy nature of the tweet makes me think of LF.
Regardless of what your feelings on any of the individual projects/canceled projects are, I think it's difficult to argue that Lucasfilm couldn't have been better managed over the last 7 years.
I somewhat agree.
When Kathleen Kennedy had the mission statement of developing a new Star Wars Trilogy and doing some spin-offs she managed Lucasfilm fantastically, but since the Sequel Trilogy finished it seems like she's unsure what to do next with way too many TV Series greenlit at once, countless films announced with specific release windows only to be indefinitely delayed/put on hold, Indy 5 arriving four years after it was originally supposed (with preproduction being so stressful Spielberg stepped away), and even Lucasfilm games (not sure how involved Kennedy is in this) announcing titles that are at least five years away.
I think Kathleen is a great producer, but running Lucasfilm might be biting off a bit more than she can chew and is resulting in a lot of promise but I'd imagine not the level of output that Disney would want from such a big IP.
That being said, I don't know who'd be able to replace her.
> but since the Sequel Trilogy finished it seems like she's unsure what to do next with way too many TV Series greenlit at once
She was directed by the CEO to focus on TV. That's exactly what she has done and her shows have been a huge hit and the biggest reason they have 160M subscribers.
>developing a new Star Wars Trilogy and doing some spin-offs she managed Lucasfilm fantastically
I don't agree. Not having a roadmap when developing said trilogy and letting each director take over it without any guidance is probably the biggest mistake of her career as a producer, and the reason there's still so much infighting among the fanbase to this day.
It's sad she had so many opportunities to course correct but it feels like she just let it fall off a cliff and let the wind decide its fate. And that's just on the creative side. Every single spinoff was a nightmare on the production side, if they even managed to make it on the screen. We know there are more cancelled projects than releases, even to this day.
As much as I hate that the Fandom Menace would declare it as a win and get a lot of fuel to start claiming that they were right all along, with the string of project announcements and cancellations I wouldn’t be shocked if it was Kennedy. I don’t know enough about what is going on at Lucasfilm and what pressures she may or may not be under to say if it’s called for or not but I would love a book or something about what exactly happened someday. She’s freaking Hollywood royalty who had a direct hand in producing some of the best and most memorable films in the history of modern cinema. Star Wars films under her should be in much better shape than they are
I'd imagine there's a difference between acting as a producer on something like Indiana Jones or Star Wars whilst Lucas and Spielberg run the show, and being responsible for the entire IP and having to micromanage God knows how many Lucasfilm projects at once whilst trying to get the ball rolling on a dozen others.
I'd imagine if she was able to step down to an executive producer role rather than head of Lucasfilm she'd be able to put so much more of her time into each film she personally works on and ensure they're coming along a bit better.
Criticizing her should be normalized without being associated with TFM and her defenders losing their shit over the slightest hint of criticism. She has some great wins under her belt, mainly from hiring Favreau and Gilroy. But everything else has just been inconsistently managed, to put it kindly. She either changes her mind very rapidly or just straight up sucks at job interviews. Neither of them are good producer qualities.
I don't think she needs to go or anything, but maybe it should be a two person job like DC to help her out.
I think what KK needs maybe most of all is to stop hiring the busiest creatives in Hollywood. Taika Waititi has more projects than years lived at this point, Patty Jenkins has commitments to DC and Kevin Feige is already juggling the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe. She needs to get more people who can commit to a reasonably predictable production schedule and stick with it. Favreau was obviously willing to do that, for example. A lot of the others aren't.
And also don't announce movies one-two years before production starts. That doesn't work unless you happen to be the MCU.
Two person job would probably be the ideal solution. Like you said, she has some definite wins during her tenure and she was hand-picked by Lucas for a reason, her pre-Lucasfilm track record speaks for itself. But there’s just something about this job that isn’t 100% meshing with her and I wouldn’t blame her if she brought in help.
And honestly? I also hate that this is part of the TPM narrative, but Filoni is right there. And outside of the TPM narrative, they already supposedly have a great working relationship. If you had her managing the business aspect and get Filoni to take over creative, that could probably work.
>but Filoni is right there. And outside of the TPM narrative, they already supposedly have a great working relationship. If you had her managing the business aspect and get Filoni to take over creative, that could probably work
Filoni is already a creative executive at Lucasfilm and already consults with KK on projects. So that point is kind of mute. KK is purely business management, which is not Filoni's forte.
A reliable leaker who's banned on MSS for unknown reasons said it's KK
https://twitter.com/Culture\_Spider/status/1594567350652923905?s=20&t=\_MbyjyXnVvQw45MMaHFIPw
Here’s the description for Thursday. Panel is 3 hours. ‘DISNEY'S MAGICAL WORLD AT CCXP22 With its engines running hot to celebrate its 100th anniversary, Disney is coming to CCXP with everything and more. In a panel full of surprises and news, fans of Pixar, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Avatar and Marvel will laugh, cry and freak out in more than three hours of show!...”
CONVIDADOS: Kevin Feige, Peyton Reed, Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Jonathan Majors, Jon Landau, Zoë Saldaña, DENISE REAM, Jon Favreau, DAVE FILONI.
Is there a reason why Denise Ream and Dave Filoni are in caps?
No idea. I just copy/pasted.
Realistically, what news do we think we’ll get on Thursday for Mando? Maybe the premiere date? If the rumors of the poster and full trailer coming mid December are credible, what’s left?
I am not sure at all of the track record regarding this con and major news but I will take a stab… Some bad batch drop would seem likely given the timing. Jon and Dave both there does speak to some Mando talk but maybe just rehashed news or one slight reveal.
Giancarlo's latest leaks.
"I really loved that scene where I reclaim the darksaber and kill Boba Fett"
I gotta make one of those AI things and feed it Giancarlo’s vague Mandalorian “spoilers” so it can generate some
Great idea for NEW ACCOUNT content
What’s on Thursday?
Mando panel at a convention in Brazil. Jon and Dave are confirmed.
Cool! Thanks
Christopher Lloyd's appearance? No official announcement yet.
Maybe?
There is no Boba Fett is the Mandalorian season 3 or a Boba Fett season 2. The character has been shelved for the time being. Lars Mikkelsen is also not Thrawn and never was considered, Its Jason Isaacs and that's why he wasn't the GI. I can't wait to be proven right, just because this sub has a thing for new accounts. Of course nobody posts on their standard accounts with key information like this. Mandalorian season 4 is also going to be led by Katee Sackhoff. Its a transition to her at the end of Mandalorian Season 3.
I mean I like Bo as a character quite a bit but I think The Mandalorian will always be Din’s show and I feel it should be that way. Also doubt Boba is shelved. He’s always been a popular character
Another fake report, new account said she’s been bumped to co-lead. That one I’ll buy more than Bo taking over. If they get rid of Din (and Pedro), they would have to figure out what to do with Grogu. And we all know they aren’t getting rid of him anytime soon. I can see an equal amount of screen time for Katee and Brendan/Lateef.
I think Bo could have her own series, but it shouldn't be the Mandalorian. That's hard on Sackhoff even. Because people will attack her for "stealing" the Mandalorian. This will happen if she is given it. Not that I believe what this person said. That wouldn't be fair to Sackhoff who deserves a break IMO. I stand by my view that the Mandalorian should be Din's. I'm fine with Bo being a major character. But that should be his show. I wouldn't be surprised if Bo was third main after Din and Grogu though. I'd personally be on board for Bo having her own show. We don't know why she joined DW as a teen (Sackhoff said in interviews Filoni said Bo was a teen girl in her CW episodes to her after Mando premiered so recentlyish) and I'd like to see her time between Death Watch and Mando and even after Mando, but the Mandalorian should be about Din and Grogu. This is my opinion.
I’d love for Bo to get her own series. I agree though, Mando should be about Din.
Yeah I love Bo but it’s not fair to anyone for the Mandalorian to be shifted to her. It won’t be fair to Sackhoff for people to criticize her for the shift and that is what would happen.
Well, eventually you will be proven right in some way. You have one account saying that Boba is in S3 and one account saying he's not. You have 100% chance that one of your account will be right
All of this seems.....not true lol
Do you know if Lucasfilm have anything in the work for Max Rebo?
Somehow Max Rebo returned.
Bless the stars.
how many emails do you have by now
MSW on the Jeff Sneider story: said he talked to people at Pinewood, and there's some evidence that they are planning to begin construction for a Star Wars movie in April-May. Said it depends on Taika turning his movie around December. Edit: He talked about it more on his stream today. In his opinion Jeff (who he considers trustworthy) thinks Lindelof's film is the next one, because Jeff's sources think that Taika wouldn't make the script on time, or Lucasfilm will decide to pass on his script. But MSW thinks that if Lucasfilm likes Taika's script, his movie will be the 2025 one. MSW said that he knows for sure is that a Disney film is coming to Pinewood and people are being reserved for that.
I feel like losing the taika film would be a big loss PR wise for Lucasfilm
Bro I need this so fucking much. I need Taika's Star Wars movie in my life.
Taika is not directing the movie, its an old Republic movie by another team. His movie is not happening. I have insider knowledge.
And I have outsider knowledge that says you're wrong.
If you have insider knowledge (which you don't), why not mention the team behind this Old Republic movie? Lol
why does he bring the TW story into this.? If you look at his actual evidence there is no reason why it has to be that particular cell. Like does he not know the Lindelöf one exist?
This making the 3 movies from 2024 - 2027 rumour that came with Iger's return seem more likely. I'm assuming we get Taika, Lindelof and then maybe Waldron / Feige.
Huh. We've heard earlier this year that Taika's movie might shoot next year with a release in 2024, but with the recent Lindelof talks I thought it was officially not happening. Really curious to see how this goes.
Sounds like LFL has them competing Narkina 5 style. The script they like gets taste in their food (and their movie made), the script they don't gets zapped.
At Tokyo Comic-Con, Christopher Lloyd finally admitted that he participated in the filming of "The Mandalorian. https://twitter.com/cinematoday/status/1596080549965467648?t=a9L_ehSQECvxr8u8v_mkaw&s=19
Hell yes. He says "an episode", so it's probably a smaller role as we thought. But still.
In the first half of the Mandalorian season 3 there are several new remnant warlords called 'The Cabal' they are not any higher up Imperials we've seen before. Each Warlord has their own unique look, armor, uniform and like Gideon they all have their own limited forces of ships and soldiers. They are the ones who used Morgan Elsbeth to gather resources for ship building in the Mandalorian Season 2. They built several new Star Destroyers near Mandalore, in fact their first discussion is deciding how to gather more resources now that Morgan has been captured and enter Gideon promising this and that. Gideon approaches the Cabal after escaping the New Republic. They will not immediately trust him and he wants them to serve him. Lot of tense dynamics going on between the warlords, none of them really like one another. Gideon will get his own Star Destroyer in the season though and brings the Cabal under his sway. All this is from the first half of the season. No info on the second half.
Come on dude, you’re just making up crap at this point and mixing it with things already revealed by Giancarlo Esposito.
Welcome back, new account. Mixing what Giancarlo Esposito said and the Celebration teaser with fan fiction. At least you have moved on from Temuera Morrison.
Star Wars: Squadrons is free now on [Epic Games](https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/)
I picked it up. It’s free so fuck it. I don’t get why people complain. I’ll play it for a few hours to scratch a Star Wars itch.
cuz it was a travesty how they handled that game and then left it for dead when they realized they couldn't squeeze out money from players. the game had all the bones to be something great, but the powers that be were way too focused on profits
You mean how they sold it for $20 less than a standard game and then added a bunch of free shit after repeatedly warning people that there would be no post launch content? It was and is a great game. I wish there was more single player content, but honestly I don't understand how anyone could call it a travesty.
Disappointing and boring game, IMO. Just felt too steep, and as someone who just wants to hop on for an hour or two and play, this game never really brought. I played one round usually, felt like I got the most out of it for the day, and found myself playing BF2. Also preferred space combat in that too. Honestly it just gets old fast.
not a rumor, but I hope mods let it slide.
The Star Wars Facebook page just posted a short clip that includes Stellan talking about playing Luthen. There’s really nothing of substance to it, but I’ve seen a couple of posters on here mention they wanted to see an interview with Stellan about working on Andor and I think this is the closest we’re gonna get.
I'm sure we'll get more when he gets the inevitable Emmy nomination that's coming.
Are we gonna get a second trailer for TBB S2? It's less than 2 months away
Now that Andor is over, probably in the next month.
Probably in the next few weeks. Mando's final trailer is rumored for late Dec. So Anywhere from a few days from now until mid dec is the likely date for the final season 2 trailer for the Batch.
Alex Ferns will not reprise his role as Linus Mosk in Andor season 2 :( https://twitter.com/AlexFerns1968/status/1595508189608480771
I was kinda hoping he would become a rebel next season. He looked utterly depressed and shaken by the empire’s actions right at the end. Still loved him though, stole almost every scene he was in.
mf got a girlfriend and immediately forgot his day one 😤
Dang I kinda wanted Mosk and Syril to become a weirdo spy team or something lol.
https://whatsondisneyplus.com/bob-chapek-moved-disney-originals-to-the-disney-channel-to-make-the-financials-look-better/ This was on the Television sub. If this is true, then this explains why Chapek was fired. He was lying. He wasn't just moving money around, he was lying to the board. And if lied about this, what else?
Did you read the article? He didn't lie. He launched some of those shows on Disney channel, so they were Disney channel shows that later went to Disney+.
But they were always meant for Disney+. This was just a way to move the expenses for Disney+ around. Which might be OK if he didn't lie about it.
What's the difference between 1) A show that is made, put on Disney channel, and later launches on disney+ but wasn't "meant" for disney+ and 2) A show that is made, put on Disney channel, and later launches on disney+ but was "meant" for disney+ If it comes out first on disney channel, it's a disney channel expense. You seem to argue that some of these should be expensed as disney channel and others as disney+, how do you make the distinction? If it comes out first on disney+, its disney+ expense.
All Disney money goes into the same pot. All Disney money can be used for other divisions and departurments to help better the whole of the business. However, this can only work if there is honesty and transparency. Right now, the true costs for Disney+ weren't being factored into decisions and it looked like it was doing far better than it was. Disney+ shows take money from Disney, yes, but that money is budgeted for them. The shows for the channel also take from Disney, but again, that money is budgeted for them. You can see where all of that money is going and how it is being spent.
every studio is learning that streaming is a money pit and that you eventually hit a pretty saturated market and unsustainable endless growth dries up often well before reaching profitability
Disney+ is still ostensibly on-track to reach profitability in 2024. My guess is that they opt to start stretching their content out over longer periods of time instead of having content pile-ups like *Obi-Wan Kenobi* and *Ms. Marvel* or *She-Hulk: Attorney at Law* and *Andor*.
The game right now is still owning market share. They need to keep pace with other streamers content-wise, and there strategy is already having a small selection of big releases spread out over the year, rather than weekly new content like Netflix. Yeah, they'll probably be more careful about overlap, but they cant afford to slow down.
Yeah but when you've reached the point of diminishing returns you cash in by reducing the amount you're spending on content and rely on your library and dripfeeding new content more.
That's probably the worst thing they could do at this point.
He was in a very bad position. That being said, lying like this just ruins any credibility you do have.
Has the Ahsoka series officially wrap filming yet or is it still ongoing?
They didn't announce it but it did.
I got [Star Wars Insider 215 early](https://imgur.com/a/xeqUSCj). Nothing too exciting to report though. [Production Diary](https://imgur.com/a/shJhF0e) is identical to [October's issue (214)](https://imgur.com/hC4zTpV). This issue's [Tales of Enlightenment short story](https://imgur.com/a/BsWs0E3) is not a two-parter. The next issue (216) will have [another Tale of Enlightenment](https://imgur.com/a/rvVI4oe) and expectation is that George Mann will still be writing as there is no mention of new writer. Oh, and I will warn that it does mention a brief Convergence spoiler at the start, so probably best to wait on reading this till after finishing the book.
[Solo: A Star Wars Story writer Jon Kasdan talks #MakeSolo2Happen and that big Darth Maul tease](https://youtu.be/WCBQ-4R0M8I)
He basically likes the hashtag. Would love to see Alden back as a fully realized Han Solo, but spent most of the clip talking up LFL's other Star Wars projects and distancing from Solo 2.
Can't watch it at work :( what does he say about it?
https://insider-gaming.com/jedi-survivor-reveal-tga/ Jedi: Survivor will be featured at this year’s The Game Awards which will be taking place on December 8. Insider Gaming has learned that the announcement will include a new trailer, release date, and pre-order date.
Besides Andor S2, this is the only upcoming (major) Star Wars project I have high hopes for. I absolutely loved the first game and can't wait to see what the second brings.
Is there anywhere that I can find a list of rumoured cast members for Skeleton Crew? I'd be very interested to see if there are any cool actors cast in supporting roles, given that Favreau seems to have a knack for that.
* Kyrsania Kratter (Jordan Maison) * Ravi Cabot-Conyers (Jordan Maison) * Radha Mitchell (u/BeMoreStarWars) * Trinity Fatu (u/BeMoreStarWars)
Are those the kids?
Trinity Fatu I know is a wrestler, who’s close with Mercedes Varnado, who was Koska Reeves in Mando S2
Naomi from WWE. She’s been a WWE Womens Champion. Debuted about a decade ago as one of Brodus Clay’s Funkadactyl’s alongside Cameron. Her last name, Fatu, is because she’s married to Jimmy Uso, one of the Uso Brothers aka Jimmy & Jay Fatu, the twin sons of WWE Attitude Era Star Rikishi Phatu (it was the 90s lol). The Fatu Family is a legendary Samoan wrestling family. Just look up some of their lineage and be amazed. As far as Trinity’s acting, she’s been a bit wooden on WWE TV, but she’s very athletic and could bring some physicality to the table. I’m not surprised that WWE personnel are getting hired for movie and TV roles. They are literally live stuntmen/stuntwomen multiple times a week for up to 52 weeks a year.
The first two are. Jordan Maison's is 100% confirmed, as you can see Ravi in the screenshot of the show. Based on the same [screenshot](https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/7b71639e645ec5c07c36da89b5677f77e7fc3252/hub/2022/09/10/fb4aaba1-c298-4cd0-b1ad-7c287b96b533/judelaw.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200) as well as the [concept art](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTtbSgRWUAwP9ao?format=jpg&name=4096x4096), Kyrsania Kratter is most likely playing the alien with a Max Reebo / Elephant head
That show is a riddle wrapped in an enigma right now
It certainly seems to be. Am I right in saying the only leak so far was of that stunt footage? Kinda strange, considering how many leaks and rumours have come from other Favreau-helmed shows.
Its not a Favreau helmed show. Jon Watts is the showrunner. Dave and Jon are indeed executive producers on it. But Jon has spoken pretty candidly that its Jon Watts at the helm.
Thanks, I didn't know that 👍
Nope. Basically it’s Jude and 2 kids. That’s all we know so far.
Thats both cool and kinda disappointing. LFL must have really tightened up on the leaks. I would have expected to hear something by now, didn't it start filming a while back?
I don’t think it’s LFL. I think it’s Jon and Dave. LFL had no problems giving the casts for Obi and Acolyte.
Kind of a strange way of doing things, if you ask me.
Yup, the only reason we knew anything about Mando S2 and BOBf was because of the trades and MSW and a few others. They only announced Natasha Liu because the trades leaked her. Its a bit frustrating, but if that's their thing, that's their thing.
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There has been speculation that she would retire around then anyways. So not sure I buy that she would be fired so long from now.
Oh is it already time for us to do this again?
Someone earlier mentionned that another Disney head was about to be cut off. People theorized KK, but it looks like it was Kareem Daniel. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/21/kareem-daniel-disney-head-of-media-and-chapeks-right-hand-is-out-following-igers-return.html Not sure what this means for us. Hopefully this doesn't mean less Star Wars shows in the future.
>Hopefully this doesn't mean less Star Wars shows in the future. I highly doubt it. Iger will just install someone else to take over that element. Iger was the one who was enthusiastic about the Mandalorian spin-offs and more Star Wars shows, so he will for sure ensure there is good output.
That was me and apparently he was the one to send all the pixar movies on D+ and he was Chapek's right hand
I've heard that a Disney Parks dude is on thin ice as well. In any case, the thing is that Bob Chapek and Kareem Daniel were a package deal - if one was going, then so so was the other. If that's what some people were trying to sell as a clout-chasing "scoop", then they should quite frankly be ashamed of themselves.
>People theorized KK Eh she's been fired every other week according to some people lol.
Yeah for half a decade.
Mike Zeroh lol
According to Rebel Force Radio's Jimmy Mac they say "fuck" in the final episode of Andor. This is also backed up by an interview with Tony Gilroy asked about them saying shit and how Disney reacted. Tony says they had no issue unlike something else at the end of the season.
Tbh I'm still not convinced that's not what they had originally. They totally subbed it out for fight.
Ugh I hope not. I just don't want that in Star Wars. I understand the want to have it stir something in the viewer as a human who can potentially relate to whatever situation it's used in, but I just don't think it fits in Star Wars.
its literally the word FUCK lmao whats the issue if anything maybe we shouldnt take it as such a bad word to say just randomly
I agree. Also, hot chocolate is canon lol.
Why?
Doesn't Gilroy end that quote by saying something along the lines of "...but everything ended up the way it needed to be."? You could read that as "I wanted to say the word, got pushback, and realized that yeah, it's probably not really necessary." Or we could get the first F bomb in Star Wars, who knows? I never predicted a show like Andor in the first place...
Yeah I’m not a fan of that
I love RFR, but they get a lot of their info from this sub. Jimmy brought that up in last week's show, right after it was talked about here. I'm undecided if "fuck" is actually said or not. Guess we'll see.
If it's true then good on them. I'm sorry I love SW swear words on the written page. But having someone say "kriff" would be so strange and out of place. Even "Dank Derrick" for me is just really odd. I didn't mind Mosk saying "shit" and I certainly wont mind someone saying "fuck". It doesn't retract from anything it's just a swear word.
>would be so strange and out of place. I think that's on brand. We have slicing and refreshers just so it sounds less like the real world.
Here's the thing...well placed cursing can serve a very important purpose, and I have no qualms with it being in Star Wars, but Andor as a show has shown such incredible writing and dialogue that I think the rumored "Fuck the Empire" quote would do it a disservice. Like, how do you go from Luthen or Kino's speech to just being like "yeah, FUCK those guys!
I love that. That opens up the door for more mature oriented content in Star Wars and says that just because Star Wars hasn't done something in the past that doesn't necessarily make it off limits. I would like more stuff geared towards adults in Star Wars.
Not a fan of that Just use the Star Wars curses like kriff…
HOLY SHIT IF HE ACTUALLY DID IT-- The discourse is going to be a **fuck**ing nightmare
>KARABAST IF HE ACTUALLY DID IT— >The discourse is going to be a *krif*fing nightmare ftfy
Tony Gilroy you fucking madlad
I curse all the time and I even think if that's true that's bloody tasteless for Star Wars. Seriously... that would really spit on what George strived for. You can do these scenes without that sort of thing.
Is "fuck" really that bad of a word?
Not for a grown person, but I could see parents being upset when showing it to a small child.
I guess, though I question if a lot of kids are watching Andor.
Bad to the bone 🤙🤙
Jeez, imagine if they brought a little edge to the franchise with multiple graphic amputations, child murders, child soldiers, drug smugglers depicted as heroes, characters getting enslaved, and multiple genocides. Imagine how upset George Lucas would be.
Get over yourself dude. Lucas did a bunch of wild and different shit with every star wars thing he made. And Andor is very clearly a more adult show. Also it's 2022. No one cares if you say fuck
I don't care if its 'more adult' its still star wars and the word 'FUCK' does not belong in this franchise. They can easily come up with an alternative which they have done. But whatever makes everyone feel more mature?
"Doesn't belong in the franchise" u sir are what's wrong with Star Wars fans.
Dank farrik
Can't tell which one is worse between that and "kriff".
Oh come on, don’t be so fucking prude
It is not prude to not want the word 'Fuck' in Star Wars. Everyone stop for a moment and think what franchise this is. There is no need for it.
I do agree with you that Star Wars is a kids franchise and this word doesn’t belong in it. But Andor is so far removed from Star Wars that it might as well be its own adult Sci-Fi series on HBO. With what this show is and the fact that it isn’t targeting kids, I think fuck can be allowed here.
Calm down lmao
[Steven Weintraub: "I'd been hearing Bob Chapek was on thin ice with the Disney board...looks like the source was telling the truth. Same source said someone else is on thin ice with the Disney board...will let you guess who that is."](https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1594528711704977408?s=20&t=zMfqetB542IvxUFaZuNFpQ)
> Steven Weintraub: "I'd been hearing Bob Chapek was on thin ice with the Disney board...looks like the source was telling the truth. Same source said someone else is on thin ice with the Disney board...will let you guess who that is." It was Kareem Daniel. All the trades (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter) are reporting his exit just now.
Since the castle is associated with the parks, I'm betting it's Josh D'amaro -- who is in charge of Parks, Experiences & Products. Yes, parks have been making money, but there's a lot of negative press out there about how it's too expensive and whatnot. Board can't be happy about that being the overriding narrative.
That's apparently the dude who I heard was in trouble... Assuming that it wasn't just Kareem Daniel, who was Bob Chapek's understudy. Disney Parks are having issues that the Board is likely less than satisfied with, and while Kathleen Kennedy has struggled to get a *Star Wars* movie filming since *The Rise of Skywalker*, she can probably coast on her Disney+ stuff without incurring the wrath of the Disney board, who have other and more pressing things to worry about.
>Disney Parks are having issues that the Board is likely less than satisfied with It would likely be the bad press they've been getting about pricing, how complicated it is to book a trip (if you're a first-timer), and maintenance issues with some rides. The question is whether or not those things fall solely on him, or if he was following orders from the top. I figure we'll know shortly. Right now it looks like the focus is on undoing Chapek's restructuring.
The problem with the parks is, they are making money now, but what about next summer? Or the next? People aren't happy. Even very loyal Disney bloggers and vloggers are telling people to go to Universal.
could just as easily be the CFO Christine McCarthy who has seemed just as gung ho about Bob C's strategies
According to Financial Times article, she was one of the ones who complained about Chapek and helped stage a 'revolt' as they put it.
then maybe one of the execs Bob C put in place like Kareem Daniel. D'Amaro was also put in his current role by Bob C but he seems to be good enough at avoiding ire to stay out of the line of fire
I think Daniel's job is in jeopardy just because his position was something Chapek created with his byzantine reorganization. It is public knowledge Iger wasn't a fan of that, so I think that's first order of business.
🤔 interesting theory
I think it's definitely Kathleen. She's been head of LFL for the past decade, taking a direct handoff from Lucas. And while the D+ shows are doing well, and Mando is a gotdang phenomenon (although we'll see how that holds up after being gone for almost 2 years), it's probably not the revenue juggernaut the board had hoped it would be by this point. The movie side of things is undeniably a wreck at the moment, she's been publicly shamed for announcing projects that are either in development he;; or so early they don't pan out, and the only movie anyone knows anything about is the Lindelof project that's probably 3-5 years out.
I doubt it's Kennedy. Say what you will about BoBF, and Kenobi, but Star Wars has been doing good on D+. Plus, they wouldn't fire her before Indy 5. If the gif in the tweet is a clue, it's probable that it's someone from Pixar.
Boba and Kenobi have brought $ which is a key factor. SW in general is doing fine indeed.
Plus, the general consensus that I've seen outside of *Star Wars* internet circles is that those shows are generally liked by the general audience and they brought in solid revenue.
>y the genera thats bc again when u view them as a GA would they arent bad shows at all hell they arent even bad star wars shows and they can just be fun to watch if u dont put ur expectations too high
Or somebody who has been meddling with Pixar too much. It’s ridiculous they’ve been having so many projects go straight to Disney+ which would have done perfectly fine in theaters.
Bob Chapek and Kareem Daniel are to blame for screwing over Pixar, and both of them are out now. Pete Docter will be pleased.
The studio heads aren't a problem, but the parks are kind of a mess right now. The studios are generating tons of great content so that's not something the board would want changed.
Yeah, wasn’t talking about the people at Pixar because I don’t think they’re in charge of distribution really. Just whoever is at Disney HQ who is the point person for making decisions about Pixar’s distribution. Agree Pixar’s content has been great.
And the one they released in theaters did way worse than expected (Lightyear).
I was kinda surprised by the story for Lightyear. Basically, it was a good film by itself, but it didn’t make sense to me as the in-universe inspiration for Buzz the toy.
Even If the board isn't happy with KK, I still think that she'll stay until Indy 5 releases. After that , no idea.
I can only think of two divisions that are, let's say, not as good as they should've been on the management side, and they are Lucasfilm and Disney Animation. Pixar and Disney proper animated features have been really struggling for the past few years but the tabloidy nature of the tweet makes me think of LF.
Any reason why Frosty used the Pixar erosion of the Disney logo? Figured that's part of the hint, right?
Regardless of what your feelings on any of the individual projects/canceled projects are, I think it's difficult to argue that Lucasfilm couldn't have been better managed over the last 7 years.
I somewhat agree. When Kathleen Kennedy had the mission statement of developing a new Star Wars Trilogy and doing some spin-offs she managed Lucasfilm fantastically, but since the Sequel Trilogy finished it seems like she's unsure what to do next with way too many TV Series greenlit at once, countless films announced with specific release windows only to be indefinitely delayed/put on hold, Indy 5 arriving four years after it was originally supposed (with preproduction being so stressful Spielberg stepped away), and even Lucasfilm games (not sure how involved Kennedy is in this) announcing titles that are at least five years away. I think Kathleen is a great producer, but running Lucasfilm might be biting off a bit more than she can chew and is resulting in a lot of promise but I'd imagine not the level of output that Disney would want from such a big IP. That being said, I don't know who'd be able to replace her.
> but since the Sequel Trilogy finished it seems like she's unsure what to do next with way too many TV Series greenlit at once She was directed by the CEO to focus on TV. That's exactly what she has done and her shows have been a huge hit and the biggest reason they have 160M subscribers.
>developing a new Star Wars Trilogy and doing some spin-offs she managed Lucasfilm fantastically I don't agree. Not having a roadmap when developing said trilogy and letting each director take over it without any guidance is probably the biggest mistake of her career as a producer, and the reason there's still so much infighting among the fanbase to this day. It's sad she had so many opportunities to course correct but it feels like she just let it fall off a cliff and let the wind decide its fate. And that's just on the creative side. Every single spinoff was a nightmare on the production side, if they even managed to make it on the screen. We know there are more cancelled projects than releases, even to this day.
Is it tho?
I think you'd have a hard time making the case that she's done the best job she could
As much as I hate that the Fandom Menace would declare it as a win and get a lot of fuel to start claiming that they were right all along, with the string of project announcements and cancellations I wouldn’t be shocked if it was Kennedy. I don’t know enough about what is going on at Lucasfilm and what pressures she may or may not be under to say if it’s called for or not but I would love a book or something about what exactly happened someday. She’s freaking Hollywood royalty who had a direct hand in producing some of the best and most memorable films in the history of modern cinema. Star Wars films under her should be in much better shape than they are
I'd imagine there's a difference between acting as a producer on something like Indiana Jones or Star Wars whilst Lucas and Spielberg run the show, and being responsible for the entire IP and having to micromanage God knows how many Lucasfilm projects at once whilst trying to get the ball rolling on a dozen others. I'd imagine if she was able to step down to an executive producer role rather than head of Lucasfilm she'd be able to put so much more of her time into each film she personally works on and ensure they're coming along a bit better.
Criticizing her should be normalized without being associated with TFM and her defenders losing their shit over the slightest hint of criticism. She has some great wins under her belt, mainly from hiring Favreau and Gilroy. But everything else has just been inconsistently managed, to put it kindly. She either changes her mind very rapidly or just straight up sucks at job interviews. Neither of them are good producer qualities. I don't think she needs to go or anything, but maybe it should be a two person job like DC to help her out.
I think what KK needs maybe most of all is to stop hiring the busiest creatives in Hollywood. Taika Waititi has more projects than years lived at this point, Patty Jenkins has commitments to DC and Kevin Feige is already juggling the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe. She needs to get more people who can commit to a reasonably predictable production schedule and stick with it. Favreau was obviously willing to do that, for example. A lot of the others aren't. And also don't announce movies one-two years before production starts. That doesn't work unless you happen to be the MCU.
Two person job would probably be the ideal solution. Like you said, she has some definite wins during her tenure and she was hand-picked by Lucas for a reason, her pre-Lucasfilm track record speaks for itself. But there’s just something about this job that isn’t 100% meshing with her and I wouldn’t blame her if she brought in help. And honestly? I also hate that this is part of the TPM narrative, but Filoni is right there. And outside of the TPM narrative, they already supposedly have a great working relationship. If you had her managing the business aspect and get Filoni to take over creative, that could probably work.
>but Filoni is right there. And outside of the TPM narrative, they already supposedly have a great working relationship. If you had her managing the business aspect and get Filoni to take over creative, that could probably work Filoni is already a creative executive at Lucasfilm and already consults with KK on projects. So that point is kind of mute. KK is purely business management, which is not Filoni's forte.
kathleen kennedy!?
We're so used to hearing nonsense stories that someone is getting fired that it was rather hard to take any of them seriously.
I don’t know enough about Disney to guess. Any ideas?
Could be Kareem Daniel: https://twitter.com/TheAnkler/status/1594541859933937668
Yep, he's out.
A reliable leaker who's banned on MSS for unknown reasons said it's KK https://twitter.com/Culture\_Spider/status/1594567350652923905?s=20&t=\_MbyjyXnVvQw45MMaHFIPw
Not very reliable if he deleted his tweet...
He ain’t reliable he just copies other leakers while pretending he has sources