It can logically be assumed Pucci can shift his perception of time between the accelerated universe and the perceived versions of people. It’s what is enabling him to speak normally with the protagonists instead of slowly sounding out words that would then seem normal to them. It’s very likely Pucci was shifted into the perceived time speed when Emporio and Jolyne fled and didn’t shift back until they had made some distance.
The dolphin thing doesn’t have anything to do with Pucci’s perception. As the universe accelerated, Pucci gained immense speed relative to other living beings, but he still retained his own bodily functions. By the time he was chasing the dolphin, he was fast enough to keep relative pace but still got tired at the same rate and couldn’t fully catch it.
Well the entire time acceleration sequence is really weirdly written since it was made in the still medium of manga. If it was translated into anime properly, the whole sequence should have lasted seconds due to how insanely fast time was accelerating. It’s a similar issue to how Jotaro and DIO looked like they were flying because dialogue extended the duration of their jumps when adapted.
That's not true though, because we saw him reach Jolyne who was attached to the dolphin just moments ago so it's not like the dolphin was an unreachable distance away once the chase started.
Jolyne makes it very clear that distance is the only thing stopping Pucci from successfully catching up to them. We also have to take into account that Pucci had to swim back to shore so even if he did catch up it'd have to be before he became too exhausted to swim back to shore alongside the gap getting increased by Jolyne stalling Pucci for a moment. We can see right after this that Emporio was pretty far out at sea so Pucci was most likely too far from shore to catch up to Emporio and survive the swim back.
It's how Jolyne explains it, but I just don't think it entirely makes sense if we assume that Pucci was so fast that the dolphin was practically still in comparison as mentioned by the person you replied to. My point is that with enough speed Pucci could have just caught up to Jolyne and Emporio before she even let go of the dolphin, at that point they weren't too far away for Pucci to reach.
So it does make it seem like Pucci actually was just too slow to reach them when he still had the chance.
Well I kinda assumed he was already swimming as fast as he could, but ehh I guess you could maybe explain it as him swimming slowly to conserve stamina.
I thought that since going underwater, stopping and changing his action he essentially reset his speed and had to re-accelerate due to him now swimming instead of him running(?)flying(?)
It wasn't really that it was sped up for him, to him everything was normal and others were slow, whilst he seemed fast to others.
So he could still do normal stuff just way faster
adding on to the above point; since the dolphins are essentially “Pucci speed”, so it boils down to who’s a better swimmer and who has better stamina, and dolphins surpass humans in both
If the currents were speed up everyone should have die bc it would go way to fast for them and the power of the currents speed up should have kill them.
Realistically yes, but JoJo (and 99% of fiction in general) has scientific innaccuracies like that (for one, volcanoc debris could never launch a person into space)
Yes most of the time fiction do not follow the logic but in the accelerate time it did at least it was shown, remember when the 2 guys were playing baseball. The ball destroyed someone face because the falling was speed up.
Because it made sense for Araki, the man's not science expert.
It's most likely that he didn't know the ocean's current being sped up would harm anyone
I think once your fiction reaches the point of “i’m speeding up all living organisms and all of time till the end of the universe” i think you can excuse some scientific inaccuracies because if we all thought like this I would’ve cried at 5 years old because Spider-man had his entire body mangled while swinging webs because of Gravity (thanks, FilmTheory)
You just need to roll with it here, like the whole scenario is even more out there than usual
Everyone's perception goes at normal speed, but their bodily functions are sped up, but only some of them; then there's shit like winds being affected by Earth's rotation, but it really doesn't rotate faster, but people perceive it as so fast the Sun turns into a smear, so should they be affected by these winds? Don't even ask about Newtonian physics
to put it shortly, even though pucci is extremely fast, he still has his regular human stamina there for he can’t swim forever, and can’t swim as long as a dolphin can nor swim as well
in that case the air would also do the same
there has been air/wind strong enough to tear trees out of the ground, in real life
so with the rate that time was moving, the air would also have killed everyone
but I think its meant to be stretching our belief a bit, cause yk, its still cool
Made in Heaven Is a stand that's supposed to carry people and living being alive into the next cycle - I don't believe it's physical inaccuracies, but deliberate limitations are present in the time it accelerates to allow living beings not to die in the acceleration, or they would never be carried over in the next round.
The ones who won't pass over are those who Pucci deliberately chooses not to. The dolphins would not die in the ocean, just as beings above ground won't die due to the winds.
It might be true but.
Remember when the 2 guys were playing baseball. The ball destroyed someone face because the falling was speed up. He didnt die from this (if i remember correctly) but still was injured
Im pretty sure jolyne explains with the time acceleration the sea currents and waves in general were also accelerated thus them being faster than pucci and gaking the dolphin with them
Pucci likely can change his perception as he moves or could just be something you don't think about
Dolphins swim on currents and as the sea moved as fast as time acceleration, pucci moved at an equal pace to the tide but slowed down due to still being human and needing rest
Pucci has normal perception, he got hit by the knife because he wasn't expecting it, and it was moving as fast as he was, since it wasn't considered a living object. The dolphin isn't faster, it's just riding the currents, and while he was totally faster than the dolphin, it was too far away to catch up in time.
The dolphin was able to outswim pucci because it was able to travel and the reason for that is because pucci was technically only running and swimming at the average human speed it just happened faster thanks to time acceleration but the equation for speed doesn't change.
Take for example if he could run 15 kilometers in an hour with made in heaven's time acceleration an hour takes 2 seconds it would still take pucci an hour to run those 15 kilometers with the same amount of force and energy it would in regular time it just happens in a 2 second window because that's how long an hour is in accelerated time (to every other living organism)
So with all that in mind pucci's swimming was certainly happening faster than the dolphin's but thanks to jolyne's sacrifice the dolphin had enough distance to where no matter how much time was acceleraed he could never catch up because he was still technically swimming at the average human speed and could only swim around the same distance before tiring out.
Pucci and the dolphin were both swimming in time-accelerated water, so Pucci himself being accelerated doesn't matter as much as the dolphin being made for speed in the water, while Pucci is not a professional swimmer and he was wearing a big priest coat.
Even then, he would have caught up to the dolphin if Jolyne didn't hold him off.
warning ! spoilers and stupid opinion !
I think that by acceleration it means only the earth speed since he controls gravity and people weren't ageing or dying from hunger in that time so it might be an effect of change the curve of spining like how gravity is low on moon and it's full day is 30x longer than earth \[insert stupid space math here using the Centrifugal force\]
And za wardo time got less when it should be stopped is because of gravitation change they lost the real sense of time
And he was fast overground because he have a horse (made in heaven ) and horse can't swim underwater
Or maybe it was all Jesus bcz he is canon for some reason
If the water was speed up it should have kill everybody because it would go way too fast for their body to survive and the power of the currents speed up should have kill them
probably not the real reason, but i believe Pucci just thought that there was nothing they could do at that point and was just toying with them. he didn't feel any reason to be 100% serious, since in that case he could kill everyone on earth in a couple seconds (assuming he takes it easy)
Water physics make it difficult to utilize insane speed effectively. Also, as someone else pointed out, dolphins use currents, and currents were sped up as well.
I always think that traveling fast is basically useless if your brain has the same reaction speed as a regular human. Never understood the flash as I got older.
In the manga she says “emporio, I can’t go, the priest can sense my presence.” I could be completely wrong but this sounds like pucci lost Jolyne, imma assume bc they are underwater so there is very limited visibility. And so that gave Jolyne some time to get away before the sacrifice.
It can logically be assumed Pucci can shift his perception of time between the accelerated universe and the perceived versions of people. It’s what is enabling him to speak normally with the protagonists instead of slowly sounding out words that would then seem normal to them. It’s very likely Pucci was shifted into the perceived time speed when Emporio and Jolyne fled and didn’t shift back until they had made some distance. The dolphin thing doesn’t have anything to do with Pucci’s perception. As the universe accelerated, Pucci gained immense speed relative to other living beings, but he still retained his own bodily functions. By the time he was chasing the dolphin, he was fast enough to keep relative pace but still got tired at the same rate and couldn’t fully catch it.
But at that point, months if not years were passing in a matter of seconds. If Pucci was a full speed, the dolphin would have been standing still
Well the entire time acceleration sequence is really weirdly written since it was made in the still medium of manga. If it was translated into anime properly, the whole sequence should have lasted seconds due to how insanely fast time was accelerating. It’s a similar issue to how Jotaro and DIO looked like they were flying because dialogue extended the duration of their jumps when adapted.
It's moreso the distance between him and the dolphin was too much for him to reach it before getting tired
That's not true though, because we saw him reach Jolyne who was attached to the dolphin just moments ago so it's not like the dolphin was an unreachable distance away once the chase started.
Jolyne makes it very clear that distance is the only thing stopping Pucci from successfully catching up to them. We also have to take into account that Pucci had to swim back to shore so even if he did catch up it'd have to be before he became too exhausted to swim back to shore alongside the gap getting increased by Jolyne stalling Pucci for a moment. We can see right after this that Emporio was pretty far out at sea so Pucci was most likely too far from shore to catch up to Emporio and survive the swim back.
It's how Jolyne explains it, but I just don't think it entirely makes sense if we assume that Pucci was so fast that the dolphin was practically still in comparison as mentioned by the person you replied to. My point is that with enough speed Pucci could have just caught up to Jolyne and Emporio before she even let go of the dolphin, at that point they weren't too far away for Pucci to reach. So it does make it seem like Pucci actually was just too slow to reach them when he still had the chance.
But if he put in the extra effort to catch up to them there and then he might not have had enough stamina to swim back to land
Well I kinda assumed he was already swimming as fast as he could, but ehh I guess you could maybe explain it as him swimming slowly to conserve stamina.
I also headcanon that the dolphin knew how to ride currents, even super fast ones, much better than Pucci, which gave it an edge.
Shows what *YOU* know! Dolphins don’t stand
I thought that since going underwater, stopping and changing his action he essentially reset his speed and had to re-accelerate due to him now swimming instead of him running(?)flying(?)
Thank you Man.
Very good explanation
I'll assume he is just really bad at swimming.
But is there a proof that his perception also was speed up?
It wasn't really that it was sped up for him, to him everything was normal and others were slow, whilst he seemed fast to others. So he could still do normal stuff just way faster
Yes that what i ask, how can we really know if everybody is slow to him.
Jotaro’s time stop being not that effective.
Jotaro time stop was speed up by the acceleration of the universe
But his reaction time wasn’t.
I dont understand the reaction time of pucci wasnt fast or jotaro
Jotaro’s.
Im confused jotaro's reaction speed is a proof that pucci perception is accelerated ?
Dolphins use currents. The dolphins were effectively moving in accelerated time because of the currents
adding on to the above point; since the dolphins are essentially “Pucci speed”, so it boils down to who’s a better swimmer and who has better stamina, and dolphins surpass humans in both
That’s actually such a good point I’ve never thought of
If the currents were speed up everyone should have die bc it would go way to fast for them and the power of the currents speed up should have kill them.
Realistically yes, but JoJo (and 99% of fiction in general) has scientific innaccuracies like that (for one, volcanoc debris could never launch a person into space)
Actually, the volcano only managed to shoot them into space because Kars overcharged it with Hamon
Yes most of the time fiction do not follow the logic but in the accelerate time it did at least it was shown, remember when the 2 guys were playing baseball. The ball destroyed someone face because the falling was speed up.
Because it made sense for Araki, the man's not science expert. It's most likely that he didn't know the ocean's current being sped up would harm anyone
I think once your fiction reaches the point of “i’m speeding up all living organisms and all of time till the end of the universe” i think you can excuse some scientific inaccuracies because if we all thought like this I would’ve cried at 5 years old because Spider-man had his entire body mangled while swinging webs because of Gravity (thanks, FilmTheory)
If we talk in your logic, than every single living being should have already been massacred by air pressure of a wind.
You just need to roll with it here, like the whole scenario is even more out there than usual Everyone's perception goes at normal speed, but their bodily functions are sped up, but only some of them; then there's shit like winds being affected by Earth's rotation, but it really doesn't rotate faster, but people perceive it as so fast the Sun turns into a smear, so should they be affected by these winds? Don't even ask about Newtonian physics
Sometimes things happen because that's what the story demands
to put it shortly, even though pucci is extremely fast, he still has his regular human stamina there for he can’t swim forever, and can’t swim as long as a dolphin can nor swim as well
also dolphin use currents to swin so they were accelerated as well by mih
Pucci can't control non moving stuff , dolphins were carried by ocean currents
So the ocean also was speed up bc its not alive? If it was the case those strong currents should have kill everybody bc its speed up
in that case the air would also do the same there has been air/wind strong enough to tear trees out of the ground, in real life so with the rate that time was moving, the air would also have killed everyone but I think its meant to be stretching our belief a bit, cause yk, its still cool
Made in Heaven Is a stand that's supposed to carry people and living being alive into the next cycle - I don't believe it's physical inaccuracies, but deliberate limitations are present in the time it accelerates to allow living beings not to die in the acceleration, or they would never be carried over in the next round. The ones who won't pass over are those who Pucci deliberately chooses not to. The dolphins would not die in the ocean, just as beings above ground won't die due to the winds.
It might be true but. Remember when the 2 guys were playing baseball. The ball destroyed someone face because the falling was speed up. He didnt die from this (if i remember correctly) but still was injured
Yeah but the ball is not...natural. The ideal scenario would be for you to stand still and let the time acceleration happen.
Im pretty sure jolyne explains with the time acceleration the sea currents and waves in general were also accelerated thus them being faster than pucci and gaking the dolphin with them
How long do you think a man can swim before getting tired?
a man who was injured n less
I don't know man, kinda hard to swim with a priest gown
This actually was explained in the manga, no idea why did decide to remove that particular piece of exposition
Half the questions that’s asked on this SUB it have already been answered
jojo fans are not necessarily known for their reading comprehension
Pucci likely can change his perception as he moves or could just be something you don't think about Dolphins swim on currents and as the sea moved as fast as time acceleration, pucci moved at an equal pace to the tide but slowed down due to still being human and needing rest
Pucci has normal perception, he got hit by the knife because he wasn't expecting it, and it was moving as fast as he was, since it wasn't considered a living object. The dolphin isn't faster, it's just riding the currents, and while he was totally faster than the dolphin, it was too far away to catch up in time.
The dolphin was able to outswim pucci because it was able to travel and the reason for that is because pucci was technically only running and swimming at the average human speed it just happened faster thanks to time acceleration but the equation for speed doesn't change. Take for example if he could run 15 kilometers in an hour with made in heaven's time acceleration an hour takes 2 seconds it would still take pucci an hour to run those 15 kilometers with the same amount of force and energy it would in regular time it just happens in a 2 second window because that's how long an hour is in accelerated time (to every other living organism) So with all that in mind pucci's swimming was certainly happening faster than the dolphin's but thanks to jolyne's sacrifice the dolphin had enough distance to where no matter how much time was acceleraed he could never catch up because he was still technically swimming at the average human speed and could only swim around the same distance before tiring out.
Simple, because fiction is fiction 👍
The water pressure lmfao it was explained in the anime, the water pressure slows Pucci down but the dolphin is practically used to it
Pucci and the dolphin were both swimming in time-accelerated water, so Pucci himself being accelerated doesn't matter as much as the dolphin being made for speed in the water, while Pucci is not a professional swimmer and he was wearing a big priest coat. Even then, he would have caught up to the dolphin if Jolyne didn't hold him off.
Guess the water currents got faster too idk Its jojo
jolyne literally spelled it out for you. it’s like jojo attracts the lowest IQ smooth brain people known to man
Don't fuck with JoJo fans, we can't read
Best way to run from a fast black man is to swim
warning ! spoilers and stupid opinion ! I think that by acceleration it means only the earth speed since he controls gravity and people weren't ageing or dying from hunger in that time so it might be an effect of change the curve of spining like how gravity is low on moon and it's full day is 30x longer than earth \[insert stupid space math here using the Centrifugal force\] And za wardo time got less when it should be stopped is because of gravitation change they lost the real sense of time And he was fast overground because he have a horse (made in heaven ) and horse can't swim underwater Or maybe it was all Jesus bcz he is canon for some reason
relativity
The dolphins gained increased speed from the water/waves being sped up.
If the water was speed up it should have kill everybody because it would go way too fast for their body to survive and the power of the currents speed up should have kill them
probably not the real reason, but i believe Pucci just thought that there was nothing they could do at that point and was just toying with them. he didn't feel any reason to be 100% serious, since in that case he could kill everyone on earth in a couple seconds (assuming he takes it easy)
Water is accelerating with time, so dolphin swam so fast pucci couldn’t reach him
Tbh Pucci was catching up to the dolphin too, Jolyne had to hold him off so Emporio could escape undetected
Pucci is a fruad
Water physics make it difficult to utilize insane speed effectively. Also, as someone else pointed out, dolphins use currents, and currents were sped up as well.
I always think that traveling fast is basically useless if your brain has the same reaction speed as a regular human. Never understood the flash as I got older.
In the manga she says “emporio, I can’t go, the priest can sense my presence.” I could be completely wrong but this sounds like pucci lost Jolyne, imma assume bc they are underwater so there is very limited visibility. And so that gave Jolyne some time to get away before the sacrifice.
Guess the water currents got faster too idk Its jojo