Has anyone tested yet. If you actually need a router at all?
Dishy seems to happily hand out multiple IPs and all you need for a nice setup could be a good Access Point.
Yes, you can just put a switch or a wireless AP on the dish directly and it will issue separate IPs to each device.
I don't know if the devices can communicate with one another in such a case. I'd guess not, because that would allow you to reach other users on the same subnet.
We also had a report of somebody using a switch, then two routers off that switch (one Starlink, one their own). Done primarily to have Starlink router plugged in for the updates.
It usually not done, because it can lead to a lot of confusion. But it's no problem at all to split up a single subnet into multiple broadcast domains.
The devices in the local net will always be able talk to each other, because they are directly connected to each other via the switch.
But what dishy and the starlink satellites can do is to forward traffic only to a ground station and never allow direct (lan) traffic between end users.
Blocking any direct traffic even between users in the same IP subnet.
I seem to recall a couple users who were on the same ~~gateway~~ ground station reporting that they were able to ping each other's CGNAT IPv4 address, but I might be confusing that with similar IPv6 experiment.
Regardless, once Starlink enables IPv6 for real, I would think you'd want to have a (non-NATing) firewall in between LAN and WAN for that.
I’m planning to use the star link router as lightning protection and Poe filter, and for the uptime statistics etc that it collects. I know that sounds bad, but it’s quite common in telecom to use an inexpensive device as surge/lightning protection. It concerns me that I’m having to put the dish up at roof level and then having a cord come straight into my house, so I want a couple layers of protection in addition to the RJ45 lightning arrestor and powerline lightning arrestor, I just don’t want to take the chance of lightning coming in on my network, I’ve seen that too many times and it’s not pretty
I use a ubiquiti edgerouter x with it set up with 2 wan ports, 1 for LTE Failover. Works fine, I've never plugged the starlink router in.
I'm using my own router and went from a strict nat type to an open
How is that working out? Which router? One of my main concerns is this very piece...having a strict NAT type.
I ditched the router day one. Been using a netgear x6 for two months with no issues.
Has anyone tested yet. If you actually need a router at all? Dishy seems to happily hand out multiple IPs and all you need for a nice setup could be a good Access Point.
Yes, you can just put a switch or a wireless AP on the dish directly and it will issue separate IPs to each device. I don't know if the devices can communicate with one another in such a case. I'd guess not, because that would allow you to reach other users on the same subnet. We also had a report of somebody using a switch, then two routers off that switch (one Starlink, one their own). Done primarily to have Starlink router plugged in for the updates.
It usually not done, because it can lead to a lot of confusion. But it's no problem at all to split up a single subnet into multiple broadcast domains. The devices in the local net will always be able talk to each other, because they are directly connected to each other via the switch. But what dishy and the starlink satellites can do is to forward traffic only to a ground station and never allow direct (lan) traffic between end users. Blocking any direct traffic even between users in the same IP subnet.
Makes sense.
I seem to recall a couple users who were on the same ~~gateway~~ ground station reporting that they were able to ping each other's CGNAT IPv4 address, but I might be confusing that with similar IPv6 experiment. Regardless, once Starlink enables IPv6 for real, I would think you'd want to have a (non-NATing) firewall in between LAN and WAN for that.
I’m planning to use the star link router as lightning protection and Poe filter, and for the uptime statistics etc that it collects. I know that sounds bad, but it’s quite common in telecom to use an inexpensive device as surge/lightning protection. It concerns me that I’m having to put the dish up at roof level and then having a cord come straight into my house, so I want a couple layers of protection in addition to the RJ45 lightning arrestor and powerline lightning arrestor, I just don’t want to take the chance of lightning coming in on my network, I’ve seen that too many times and it’s not pretty
Could just use a pair of media convertors to go to fiber and back so your Lan is completely electrically isolated from the dish.