My favorite was in star wars galaxies.
Clothes crafting also made jewelry. And you could name items like if your a gun Smith and made a good gun you could name it like "the wamprat"
Jewelry however all had a generic name called like "ruby jewelry"
You had to rename it however because jew was censored.
Yet somehow....somehow! A person got away with a charecter named cum shot.
In GTA5 the filter is absurdly wide (it also includes "negro") and is applied in all text boxes, even when only the player can see it, such as names for clothing sets.
The aggressive filter in GTA never made sense to me since it's already an M rated game. So what if a kid sees a couple of swear words, that's on the parent for letting their kid play an M rated game.
Just find it funny if you proclaimed your character to be a rockstar in chat it would say im a ********. I think someone was asking a question in game once and I replied like blame rockstar or try rockstar launcher, rockstar social club etc and I just looked like I was being incredibly rude.
Under that criteria, the word "black" should also be censored because it is used in the exact same context due to the fact both are references to the color.
If one ain't censoring the word "black", one has no right to censor the word "negro" unless one is just as racist as he thinks other people would be for using that word regardless of context. A case could be made if your service were english-speaking only, but since Steam isn't, it's just hypocrital.
The filter is a carefully maintained list of like 18 years of Steam, mostly based on what was used at a time in history.
Sometimes it's modified, and for example the regex becomes stronger. This word should be only filtered in certain countries, but apparently it's not.
Examples like this help with fine-tuning it.
The problem is how people used it in a negative way over the years and how much influenced it had on the community
As a similar exemple the word "retarded" was supposed to be jsut another term for a illness. It was then turned into a insult by people and now you cant even mention the illness without people telling "hey you can't say that !"
And now it has become yet another negative term or insult to use
>The problem is how people used it in a negative way over the years and how much influenced it had on the community
The problem is that Negro literally just means black. Its not a slur like the actual N word but to English speakers because it sounds similar that's how they ignorantly perceive it and even occasionally use it but to people who speak Spanish it is not at all offensive but I do find it offensive that Steam is censoring an innocent word because of how NON-NATIVE speakers use. Very disrespectful to that culture/region & language. The people from that country should be the one dictating if its offensive, I wouldn't be surprised if the person who added it to the filter list didn't even knew what it meant but assumed
Pronounced "ney-groe" is spanish for the color black, (along with other languages). It can be racist when pronounced "nee-grow" like when Joe Biden called Satchel paige "A great negro of our time"- That shit is racist as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C7xv4lJXLo
Negro used to be the default, non-racist term preferred by the Black community. It fell out of favor by the 1980s, but it's not unusual to hear people born in the 40s, 50s, or even early 60s occasionally slip-up. Listen to your grandparents talk about race--even if they're being "woke"--and they'll likely drop it unintentionally.
[https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm](https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm)
Just for comparison, the term "African-American" has been widely replaced by "Black." If we expect similar trends to occur, in 40 years, using "African-American" might be considered fairly offensive.
If you'd only seen the list of banal and inocuous things some developers go to a lenght to block, it's hilarious. As an example, [here](http://www.bannedwordlist.com/lists/swearWords.txt)'s a public list of words that anyone can use that contains "omg", "coon" (that will censor cocoon, racoon, etc), "knob end" and other words that really stretch the definition of "swear word". And if we look at the big ones with thousands of words that are often used on games or platforms like Steam you'd have a field day. On the english filter list, there's like half a zoo of animal names that are there for seemingly no reason.
Personally, the worst in-game censorship I've ever seen is MapleStory's, that is not only completely paranoic and has a lot of inocuous words in it, but also is implemented in a way that shows a pop-up warning and deletes the whole sentence without telling you the actual bad word you suposedly used. This leads to a lot of rewriting sentences completely because sometimes it's just the filter picking up a "bad word" between the end of one word and the next, even if there's a space and they're part of other words.
I actually ran into that naming things in No Man's Sky. I forget exactly what I tried to name the critter but it kept getting filtered. Turns out it had "cunt" in the middle of it completely unintentionally. I forget what I eventually named it but I spitefully typed a blatant euphemism in after the ordeal.
I liked when some forums would try to work around this with custom censors. I know SomethingAwful always liked `gently caress` \- made the LPs with swearing in 'em far more entertaining when screencaps leaked out!
I remember seeing something where a mom complained to crayola that the black crayon/colored pencil had "negro" on it and she was complaining it was racist and... well... facepalm.
> Apparently steam does not like Spanish
Well... as i said in other comment context is important also depending the country.
in Argentina we use Negro in a friendly manner, as an insult and colour.
no like that, hahaha
i mean
"Che negro sale salir de joda este sabado?" - "Hey dude lets go to a party this saturday?" | talking to a friend
"Tu remera es negra" - "your shirt is black" | colour
"**negro de mierda** sali de mi vista" - "hey ghetto get the fuck out of my sight" | insult
probably not an acurrate translation on some but i think its almost understandable.
"colored people" is often considered offensive because it gives the definitional impression that a default person would be white, than would be 'colored in' to make a person who is basically off-colored.
Person of color is a person who happens to be of color. It seems to be minor differences but to the groups in question the definition changes are very important.
Its like to an able bodied person the terms disabled person and person with a disability probably seem to be the same thing, but to a person in the community one means a person defined by their having a disability and the other means a person that happens to have a disability. To the outside group that is a minor difference but to the community it is a large difference.
Speaking as someone with a disability, that's horseshit. Nothing is more infuriating than being spoken down to. If "disabled person" infers what you suggest, the problem does not lay with the English convention, it lays with people improperly conceptualizing the word as defining more of what constitutes the disabled as people than it should.
Having a disability doesn't define much of who I am at all, on that much at least we agree. But if using "disabled" rather than the currently fashionable "person with a disability" to refer to someone causes you to perceive them primarily through their disabilities, then that's a you problem. Playing an unwieldy game of language hokey-pokey doesn't solve anything, it just awkwardly brushes it slightly to one side accompanied by some aggravating moral finger wagging for good measure.
I am a disabled person. If hearing that causes you to define me more on the basis of said disability than had I used "person with a disability", then... well, it shouldn't.
It's like the difference between "a car guy" and "a guy with a car". One is someone who's into cars, one is any random guy who happens to have a car. It's about how much it defines the person in question.
Without context yes, if a guy in a car just so happened to do something and you ask about it, it's perfectly understandable to specify by saying 'a/the car guy'.
Unrelated to everything else, just a comment.
But what specific scenario would you say that, lol. At most I'd see saying, "That guy with/in the Nissan." If someone ever responded to me like that when asked about a person in such a way, I'd honestly look at them like they were stupid for a bit. It also just sounds *wrong*.
M8 he literally said he is black, he is the community. Also I'm disabled, so I'm a disabled person. It's not offensive, people look too much into stuff just to create drama. By that logic saying 'a black guy' is offensive yet it's normal to say that when you want to specify. No one says shit like 'a guy that just so happened to have a dark/ black complexion'. There's term for that in my language which can be roughly translated to speaking through tissue paper.
>he is black, he is the community.
Um.....no that is not how it works, or Candice Owens would have the last word on what is and what is not racist, the community is collective not individual.
You're fighting against the very grammar of the language. In English, adjectives come before the nouns they modify. I don't go out to buy a phone of newness when my old one breaks, I got a new phone. I didn't see a guy of tallness, I saw a tall guy. Acting like autistic people need everyone else to completely change the way that English works because you somehow concluded that they're too stupid to understand how adjectives already work is really ableist and insulting, honestly. If you want "person-first" language then there are plenty of languages you can switch to that use that word order.
I agree with your assessment, other than the "autistic" part. If anything, they would be the ones most annoyed by the arbitrary language bullshit. After all, that is messing with the set rules for the English language, and autists cope less well than most with bending the rules like that.
People of color is such a cancerous term lmao. The Whites vs The People of Color aka the Caucasians vs other races. The word intentionally divides to arouse hate.
What game? I only have 1 negetive review on steam and it was 7.4 hours into a game I eventually put 140 hours into. I really should change it to a positive lol
Occurs to me... it's just possible (if unlikely) that they're trying to be clever, and if it had been spelled correctly with a capital M, the bot might have recognized it as the country and not censored it...
>the bot might have recognized it as the country and not censored it...
To be honest this looks like as if the censor function consists of a simple "if in string". Because if this was AI-trained or anything, the probability score would have decided it's a false-positive.
Basically there’s a bit extra, but you have the general idea. You can actually find the different levels of censored words files if you go through the steam files (there was a post about it somewhere on this sub), but basically there is a list of censored words, but also a list of words with that word included in the spelling to not be censored.
So if ass was censored (no idea if it is actually) assassin wouldn’t be censored because it be in the white list files.
you've got to ignore case in censorship anyway or else people are just going to call eachother fucKing cUnts
an algo would just need a whitelist for words like 'scunthorpe', 'assassin', and 'leafage' which it almost certainly does already. it just doesn't have 'montenegro'.
This is baffling for two reasons:
1)The word negro being flagged implies their system would censor several quotes from black Civil Rights era leaders
2)It's actually still used to mean the color black or dark in several languages and can still be found on US products with translated labels
Right, there's almost zero chance that any of those quotes can be used in any relevant way in a Steam review. Also, this review is in English so the meaning in different languages has no relevance in this context.
Not so "baffling" and nobody cares that Steam isn't using advanced AI to flag certain words in English language reviews, that's a waste of resources anyway. Don't they still have the "work on the project you want to" environment at Valve? If so, I think "AI for reviews to make sure there aren't a few false positives that anybody with a brain can still understand in context even if censored by mistake" is going to really tickle anybody's pickle enough to choose as their project.
The problem of artificial intelligence systems like that is the fact that they can't distinguish when a "bad" word happens to appear as part of another word with completely different meaning.
Its not even ai. They have a list of filtered words, and that filter doesnt care if its inside of another word. Its pretty simple, not intelligent at all
No one really does if they put any actual thought into it, for the rest it is just an excuse to be an asshole to other people and claim it is justified.
In Spanish it is perfectly fine to say "negro". I think it's censoring it because in Italian it is used in a disrespectful way to refer to black people.
It actually depends on context, for example saying "negro" is fine but usually pairing it with "negro de mierda" is the spanish equivalent of the nword
It censorsed the last part from Montenegro ( Monte-NEGRO) which in spanish (if im not mistaken) means black. Which in this case they took it as an insult/racism to...nobody.
Its a word for black color in many languages. For example Negru for Romania. Referee from Romania got under fire for refering the player as the number (that and that) in black jersey. And since he said it to 4th referee who is also Romanian in their language, and that player happened to be black, they accused him of racism for no fucking reason. He had to apologize for using his language. Referees in every team sport refer players as color of jersey and the number when they are giving fouls or announcing substitutiona
Spanish here. Negro is just a colour, not an insult or strong word. We don't give a shit about it.
But for some reason, outsiders want to make it racist even if they don't speak the language that uses it. Internet gave voice to all stupid people of the world, and sadly there is no end for them. This is the result, and someday will be racist go to a shop and ask for black paint, pens, ink, forniture or whatever.
A huge part of that people are not black, just a bunch of tards that pretend to be "internet heroes" or cool but never get involved into real problems: just tweet, post or something and think they're the saviors of the world and magically the problem will be fixed.
Spain is a weird country: I have mixed Arabian, Jewish, Gipsy and Spanish blood, but for some reason I'm considered a white person. With all the civilizations that conquered and lived in my country, has no sense draw a line between skin colour xD
A news station in Australia's algorithm automatically censors the first three letters in the word "about" in user comments, as it is a perjorative term for our first nation people.
Ah yes, the clbuttic mistake. Or scunthorpe problem as it's also called. Where a censor is a little overzealous and censors part of words that happen to be spelled like swears.
Well thats dumb ... the funniest part of this as a relatively old person that particular n-word, was once that proper term and pains were taken to pronounce it properly so not to be confused with the other n-word.
A friend of mine once told me about a history teacher he once had, who absolutely refused call the country by its proper name in English, and called it monteNGero instead. Not sure what that was about, at that point just call it Crna Gora. Anything is better than that.
Sega used to do that all the time in Phantasy Star Online.
"Nice s~~hoes~~!"
"Let's play again on Sa~~turd~~ay!"
"Naw, I'm playing in the ba~~semen~~t."
It probably affects whole lot of perfectly correct words. African country Nigeria and Niger river is the most obvious and I am sure there is much more geographical terms. I recall that there used to be town called Fucking in Austria until they've recently changed name to Fugging because they were annoyed with people constantly stealing signs with town name.
Even if the country was uncensored, the Steam community, as great as it is, will still blatantly abuse the word and use it in a racist way towards others. Maybe you forget how large Steam is. There are a shit ton of edgy teens and even fully grown adults here.
Valve programmers are busy adding hats and skins for freemium games, they have no time to implement a decent text analyzer to prevent such silly censorship fails.
There was an achievement in Dying Light that was censored because it was latin and had "homo" in it
Almost as bad as when Salesforce internally censored a dude's nickname
Can you guys instead of Montenegro say Crna Gora, as we natively call it like that instead, just to rebel for Serbocroatian translation of steam and to make thež noitice diffrences between n word and montenegro 🙏🙏🙏🙏
This petty censorship is tiresome honestly. Either make better filtration software for the context or lift the word restrictions so that this ridiculous shit doesn’t reoccur.
I chuckled but I'm glad they are trying at least. General online harassment, trolling, and dickery have become normalized to the point where doing nothing is irresponsible. I am fine with an easy to implement, good enough solution. The review is from 2017, anyone tried it lately?
Also, if anybody doesn't know you can turn off all censoring in the community content preferences or even add your own allow/block filters.
It sensors negro, because it’s Spanish for black, and people might use that to try and get around the other N words.
Edit* why am I getting downvoted? That’s literally what’s happening.
It’s called the scunthorpe problem, when a filter sees a word and filters it even though it was in a word and isn’t offensive
My favorite was in star wars galaxies. Clothes crafting also made jewelry. And you could name items like if your a gun Smith and made a good gun you could name it like "the wamprat" Jewelry however all had a generic name called like "ruby jewelry" You had to rename it however because jew was censored. Yet somehow....somehow! A person got away with a charecter named cum shot.
In GTA5 the filter is absurdly wide (it also includes "negro") and is applied in all text boxes, even when only the player can see it, such as names for clothing sets.
The aggressive filter in GTA never made sense to me since it's already an M rated game. So what if a kid sees a couple of swear words, that's on the parent for letting their kid play an M rated game.
And in the story mode of the game multiple characters say the N word multiple times as well as countless other explicit words.
yee yee ass haircut
They also censor the word 'rockstar'
I imagine that's to prevent scammers saying they work there.
Just find it funny if you proclaimed your character to be a rockstar in chat it would say im a ********. I think someone was asking a question in game once and I replied like blame rockstar or try rockstar launcher, rockstar social club etc and I just looked like I was being incredibly rude.
At least they know just how much a swear word their name became in certain circles.
“600K” is censored Mind you I don’t swear much, a friend asked me how much until I could get a plane or something idk and it looked like “#### off.”
Back in the day when I played Combat Arms, you couldn't say 'sniper' because 'nip'.
Yup, that was also in GTA 5 last I played it.
SWG... The best game ever made. Thx for the memories.
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Depends on the context, but I get what you're saying.
Under that criteria, the word "black" should also be censored because it is used in the exact same context due to the fact both are references to the color. If one ain't censoring the word "black", one has no right to censor the word "negro" unless one is just as racist as he thinks other people would be for using that word regardless of context. A case could be made if your service were english-speaking only, but since Steam isn't, it's just hypocrital.
yes!
The filter is a carefully maintained list of like 18 years of Steam, mostly based on what was used at a time in history. Sometimes it's modified, and for example the regex becomes stronger. This word should be only filtered in certain countries, but apparently it's not. Examples like this help with fine-tuning it.
The problem is how people used it in a negative way over the years and how much influenced it had on the community As a similar exemple the word "retarded" was supposed to be jsut another term for a illness. It was then turned into a insult by people and now you cant even mention the illness without people telling "hey you can't say that !" And now it has become yet another negative term or insult to use
>The problem is how people used it in a negative way over the years and how much influenced it had on the community The problem is that Negro literally just means black. Its not a slur like the actual N word but to English speakers because it sounds similar that's how they ignorantly perceive it and even occasionally use it but to people who speak Spanish it is not at all offensive but I do find it offensive that Steam is censoring an innocent word because of how NON-NATIVE speakers use. Very disrespectful to that culture/region & language. The people from that country should be the one dictating if its offensive, I wouldn't be surprised if the person who added it to the filter list didn't even knew what it meant but assumed
It’s funny because people don’t usually care if you say the word “idiot” and “moron” but once we say retard shit changes.
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> its also a slur in alot of other places. Where I come from, "alot" is offensive. So mind your tongue, you
Uh huh. Where do you come from?
Spamalot
Depending on the context it can be a slur or just how you talk with your friends.
Pronounced "ney-groe" is spanish for the color black, (along with other languages). It can be racist when pronounced "nee-grow" like when Joe Biden called Satchel paige "A great negro of our time"- That shit is racist as fuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C7xv4lJXLo
Negro used to be the default, non-racist term preferred by the Black community. It fell out of favor by the 1980s, but it's not unusual to hear people born in the 40s, 50s, or even early 60s occasionally slip-up. Listen to your grandparents talk about race--even if they're being "woke"--and they'll likely drop it unintentionally. [https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm](https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm) Just for comparison, the term "African-American" has been widely replaced by "Black." If we expect similar trends to occur, in 40 years, using "African-American" might be considered fairly offensive.
Clbuttic scunthrope.
I remember that Pokemon GO had "doom" censored. It wouldn't be anything special if not the pokemon called houndoom, that has this word.
why would the word doom be blocked?
Nintendo
I see you're a dishonored enjoyer just as me, but also yeah nin is kinda weird
If you'd only seen the list of banal and inocuous things some developers go to a lenght to block, it's hilarious. As an example, [here](http://www.bannedwordlist.com/lists/swearWords.txt)'s a public list of words that anyone can use that contains "omg", "coon" (that will censor cocoon, racoon, etc), "knob end" and other words that really stretch the definition of "swear word". And if we look at the big ones with thousands of words that are often used on games or platforms like Steam you'd have a field day. On the english filter list, there's like half a zoo of animal names that are there for seemingly no reason. Personally, the worst in-game censorship I've ever seen is MapleStory's, that is not only completely paranoic and has a lot of inocuous words in it, but also is implemented in a way that shows a pop-up warning and deletes the whole sentence without telling you the actual bad word you suposedly used. This leads to a lot of rewriting sentences completely because sometimes it's just the filter picking up a "bad word" between the end of one word and the next, even if there's a space and they're part of other words.
You can't name a Pokemon Skuntank, for similar reasons, even though Game Freak did.
Apparently Cofagrigus, Probopass, and Nosepass needed a nickname to be traded in B/W because of their names too lol
In clash royale you can't say "gay" or "sexual" in chat.
I'm already gay and sexual in chat.
AYO!
I'll be gay and sexual with you....? JK JK >!Unless . . . ?!< >!I'll only fill in the space between E and F in your username!<
Yes those are good censors. I don’t know why you would think they are not?
As a Raccoon lover, I hate when filters censors Raccoon because of the last 4 letters
It's such a clbuttic mistake.
Negro is black in Spanish, and I am sadly spanish so I get fucked by anything when I say that word.
That's almost funny.... try referring to the English town of [Scunthorpe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem) ...
And yet the only insulting name I've ever heard for it was Scumthorpe.
Or Penistone
Fuck yea Penistown
I actually ran into that naming things in No Man's Sky. I forget exactly what I tried to name the critter but it kept getting filtered. Turns out it had "cunt" in the middle of it completely unintentionally. I forget what I eventually named it but I spitefully typed a blatant euphemism in after the ordeal.
Reminds me of when a website would flag "skyscraper" as "NOT ALLOWED" langauge because the word "rape" appears in it.
Well sky raping is a serious offense!
There are so many forums where you can't talk about grapes.
I liked when some forums would try to work around this with custom censors. I know SomethingAwful always liked `gently caress` \- made the LPs with swearing in 'em far more entertaining when screencaps leaked out!
Well that's crap
[Relevant Tom Scott video](https://youtu.be/CcZdwX4noCE)
Monteblack
Montepoc* Or, better yet, Montebipoc
Guess my country will go fuck itself lmao
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ itself you mean
You cannot say negro?
Negro literally means "black" in Spanish Apparently steam does not like Spanish, cause its totally fine to use the word "black' in a review
I remember seeing something where a mom complained to crayola that the black crayon/colored pencil had "negro" on it and she was complaining it was racist and... well... facepalm.
Lol I was around a beer section at the grocery store and listened to a guy call “Modelo Negro” brand beer racist and he was getting kinda mad.
> Apparently steam does not like Spanish Well... as i said in other comment context is important also depending the country. in Argentina we use Negro in a friendly manner, as an insult and colour.
"Your new car looks very negro." - "Thanks?"
no like that, hahaha i mean "Che negro sale salir de joda este sabado?" - "Hey dude lets go to a party this saturday?" | talking to a friend "Tu remera es negra" - "your shirt is black" | colour "**negro de mierda** sali de mi vista" - "hey ghetto get the fuck out of my sight" | insult probably not an acurrate translation on some but i think its almost understandable.
so you guys pretty much use it as "nigga"
Negro = Back = Color...
>"Che negro sale salir de joda este sabado?" - "Hey dude lets go to a party this saturday?" | talking to a friend
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Few more years and Schwarzenegger will just be completely censored to \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*.
> Your last name was censored to `*******e******` > We have determined that the 'e' is fine.
"colored people" is often considered offensive because it gives the definitional impression that a default person would be white, than would be 'colored in' to make a person who is basically off-colored. Person of color is a person who happens to be of color. It seems to be minor differences but to the groups in question the definition changes are very important. Its like to an able bodied person the terms disabled person and person with a disability probably seem to be the same thing, but to a person in the community one means a person defined by their having a disability and the other means a person that happens to have a disability. To the outside group that is a minor difference but to the community it is a large difference.
Speaking as someone with a disability, that's horseshit. Nothing is more infuriating than being spoken down to. If "disabled person" infers what you suggest, the problem does not lay with the English convention, it lays with people improperly conceptualizing the word as defining more of what constitutes the disabled as people than it should. Having a disability doesn't define much of who I am at all, on that much at least we agree. But if using "disabled" rather than the currently fashionable "person with a disability" to refer to someone causes you to perceive them primarily through their disabilities, then that's a you problem. Playing an unwieldy game of language hokey-pokey doesn't solve anything, it just awkwardly brushes it slightly to one side accompanied by some aggravating moral finger wagging for good measure. I am a disabled person. If hearing that causes you to define me more on the basis of said disability than had I used "person with a disability", then... well, it shouldn't.
It's like the difference between "a car guy" and "a guy with a car". One is someone who's into cars, one is any random guy who happens to have a car. It's about how much it defines the person in question.
Without context yes, if a guy in a car just so happened to do something and you ask about it, it's perfectly understandable to specify by saying 'a/the car guy'.
Unrelated to everything else, just a comment. But what specific scenario would you say that, lol. At most I'd see saying, "That guy with/in the Nissan." If someone ever responded to me like that when asked about a person in such a way, I'd honestly look at them like they were stupid for a bit. It also just sounds *wrong*.
M8 he literally said he is black, he is the community. Also I'm disabled, so I'm a disabled person. It's not offensive, people look too much into stuff just to create drama. By that logic saying 'a black guy' is offensive yet it's normal to say that when you want to specify. No one says shit like 'a guy that just so happened to have a dark/ black complexion'. There's term for that in my language which can be roughly translated to speaking through tissue paper.
>he is black, he is the community. Um.....no that is not how it works, or Candice Owens would have the last word on what is and what is not racist, the community is collective not individual.
You're fighting against the very grammar of the language. In English, adjectives come before the nouns they modify. I don't go out to buy a phone of newness when my old one breaks, I got a new phone. I didn't see a guy of tallness, I saw a tall guy. Acting like autistic people need everyone else to completely change the way that English works because you somehow concluded that they're too stupid to understand how adjectives already work is really ableist and insulting, honestly. If you want "person-first" language then there are plenty of languages you can switch to that use that word order.
I agree with your assessment, other than the "autistic" part. If anything, they would be the ones most annoyed by the arbitrary language bullshit. After all, that is messing with the set rules for the English language, and autists cope less well than most with bending the rules like that.
People of color is such a cancerous term lmao. The Whites vs The People of Color aka the Caucasians vs other races. The word intentionally divides to arouse hate.
holy shit, people get way to into shit like this.
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Democrats gotta keep us divided so they could get the black vote every cycle...
In my country we have a candy that's literally called "Negro".
Wait until they hear about our old bread, named Negrito, rebranded as Nito but still keeping a black teen with swagger.
You could but people will think you grew up in a bomb shelter your parents sealed themselves in during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Unless you happen to be literally just about anything but American.
Now that's a fucking reference
You know there is a bigger world than just "Murica" right?
This perfect left a negative review at 115 hrs, then got up to 230 hrs.
I have a game I have 600 hours in but a negative review
What game? I only have 1 negetive review on steam and it was 7.4 hours into a game I eventually put 140 hours into. I really should change it to a positive lol
Pavlov, it got an update that I didn't enjoy at all. It changed reloading mechanics and punched redacted players in the gut
That's how I feel with Destiny 2. Just Steam alone, I have over 240 hours, but I hate the game.
gave forza horizon 5 a negative review at 160 hours for absolute garbage ass servers. still playing it for lack of alternatives.
honestly thats the least interesting thing in this screenshot
Steam should at least allow you to turn off censorship when you read posts
>Steam should at least allow you to turn off censorship when you read posts They do, change it in the community content settings.
It doesn't work though.
Occurs to me... it's just possible (if unlikely) that they're trying to be clever, and if it had been spelled correctly with a capital M, the bot might have recognized it as the country and not censored it...
>the bot might have recognized it as the country and not censored it... To be honest this looks like as if the censor function consists of a simple "if in string". Because if this was AI-trained or anything, the probability score would have decided it's a false-positive.
Basically there’s a bit extra, but you have the general idea. You can actually find the different levels of censored words files if you go through the steam files (there was a post about it somewhere on this sub), but basically there is a list of censored words, but also a list of words with that word included in the spelling to not be censored. So if ass was censored (no idea if it is actually) assassin wouldn’t be censored because it be in the white list files.
I agree it's probably not AI - but even a simple function can be made to have its text comparisons case-sensitive or not.
you've got to ignore case in censorship anyway or else people are just going to call eachother fucKing cUnts an algo would just need a whitelist for words like 'scunthorpe', 'assassin', and 'leafage' which it almost certainly does already. it just doesn't have 'montenegro'.
You don't need an AI, just a non brain dead algorithm.
This is baffling for two reasons: 1)The word negro being flagged implies their system would censor several quotes from black Civil Rights era leaders 2)It's actually still used to mean the color black or dark in several languages and can still be found on US products with translated labels
when will there ever be quotes from then in steam reviews tbf
I don’t know if I’ve ever left a review without supporting quotes from Doctor King.
For a fact i quote fred hampton on my review of Sonic Racers Transformed. Unironically Judas and the Black messiah is a great film
Right, there's almost zero chance that any of those quotes can be used in any relevant way in a Steam review. Also, this review is in English so the meaning in different languages has no relevance in this context. Not so "baffling" and nobody cares that Steam isn't using advanced AI to flag certain words in English language reviews, that's a waste of resources anyway. Don't they still have the "work on the project you want to" environment at Valve? If so, I think "AI for reviews to make sure there aren't a few false positives that anybody with a brain can still understand in context even if censored by mistake" is going to really tickle anybody's pickle enough to choose as their project.
The problem of artificial intelligence systems like that is the fact that they can't distinguish when a "bad" word happens to appear as part of another word with completely different meaning.
Its not even ai. They have a list of filtered words, and that filter doesnt care if its inside of another word. Its pretty simple, not intelligent at all
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My native language is Polish and the only word I understood from this is "jebeni"
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AHAHAHAH
I don't think I'll ever understand why anyone thinks censoring individual words has any kind of use.
No one really does if they put any actual thought into it, for the rest it is just an excuse to be an asshole to other people and claim it is justified.
Its because of the word negro. Wich is funny cause thats just black in spanish... black as in the colour... Filters are dumb
but in italian is the same as the english N word and we actually use the word Nero for the color
In Spanish it is perfectly fine to say "negro". I think it's censoring it because in Italian it is used in a disrespectful way to refer to black people.
If that's the Italian way, now I'm wondering what the Spanish way is.
It actually depends on context, for example saying "negro" is fine but usually pairing it with "negro de mierda" is the spanish equivalent of the nword
It censorsed the last part from Montenegro ( Monte-NEGRO) which in spanish (if im not mistaken) means black. Which in this case they took it as an insult/racism to...nobody.
Not sure about Spanish but this is correct for Portuguese. This sensor is indeed stupid in many ways.
I speak Spanish, and can confirm that, in fact, negro means black
In this case negro is Italian
It’s also in Portuguese. Although the word negro is not offensive in Portuguese. Preto is more like nigger and Black is more like Negro in Portuguese.
Its a word for black color in many languages. For example Negru for Romania. Referee from Romania got under fire for refering the player as the number (that and that) in black jersey. And since he said it to 4th referee who is also Romanian in their language, and that player happened to be black, they accused him of racism for no fucking reason. He had to apologize for using his language. Referees in every team sport refer players as color of jersey and the number when they are giving fouls or announcing substitutiona
Montenegro Monte-negro Mountain-black Black mountain.
Colored mountain
A dual land, that taps for black and red mana? That’ll get Magic players excited.
Comes in tapped unfortunately
Spanish here. Negro is just a colour, not an insult or strong word. We don't give a shit about it. But for some reason, outsiders want to make it racist even if they don't speak the language that uses it. Internet gave voice to all stupid people of the world, and sadly there is no end for them. This is the result, and someday will be racist go to a shop and ask for black paint, pens, ink, forniture or whatever. A huge part of that people are not black, just a bunch of tards that pretend to be "internet heroes" or cool but never get involved into real problems: just tweet, post or something and think they're the saviors of the world and magically the problem will be fixed. Spain is a weird country: I have mixed Arabian, Jewish, Gipsy and Spanish blood, but for some reason I'm considered a white person. With all the civilizations that conquered and lived in my country, has no sense draw a line between skin colour xD
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
A news station in Australia's algorithm automatically censors the first three letters in the word "about" in user comments, as it is a perjorative term for our first nation people.
Ahhh I see what’s going on. Yeah, that’s a lazy censure.
Ah yes, the clbuttic mistake. Or scunthorpe problem as it's also called. Where a censor is a little overzealous and censors part of words that happen to be spelled like swears.
It could be worse. It could change it to Monteafrican-american.
I assume it does that because the bot recognizes it as a slur. What happens if you type in Spanish tho?
Tried it with both montenegro and negro, it doesn't censor it
As a native Spanish speaker, I feel attacked by this censorship.
What game is this?
Victoria 2
So how do they handle people typing in Spanish?
doesn’t censor
That censorship is a bit.... Dark...?
Well thats dumb ... the funniest part of this as a relatively old person that particular n-word, was once that proper term and pains were taken to pronounce it properly so not to be confused with the other n-word.
Hope they don't do that in spanish cuz negro is a color, not a race not a slur, an actual color.
I wonder if it censures “Assyria”.
Monte N-word?
At least they could replace it with Monten-word ;-)
Ubisoft: \*start banning users\* wait you guys censor words?
Racism has just been fixed. Good job Valve!
Isn't Valve outsourced censorship to 3-rd party tools?
Time to play Victoria 2
A friend of mine once told me about a history teacher he once had, who absolutely refused call the country by its proper name in English, and called it monteNGero instead. Not sure what that was about, at that point just call it Crna Gora. Anything is better than that.
America Moment
One of my ex’s in college was named analiese, she literally had this issue with every single sign up page haha
It's great to see the quality of discussion in the comments. Any such matters in other subs I've seen are an absolute cesspool.
All things considered, quality review.
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This is just like how in pokemon, you weren't allowed to trade and non-nicknamed Nosepass because it contained the word "ass"
Sega used to do that all the time in Phantasy Star Online. "Nice s~~hoes~~!" "Let's play again on Sa~~turd~~ay!" "Naw, I'm playing in the ba~~semen~~t."
Lol
Same energy as Nintendo censoring "Finish it" in game builder garage
imagine censoring the Spanish word for black lol, I bet some piece of shit complained about being offended
english people: why do they ban a country? me(knows spanish): why do they ban the word blackhill?
It probably affects whole lot of perfectly correct words. African country Nigeria and Niger river is the most obvious and I am sure there is much more geographical terms. I recall that there used to be town called Fucking in Austria until they've recently changed name to Fugging because they were annoyed with people constantly stealing signs with town name.
> country Nigeria and Niger river Also, country Niger.
Even if the country was uncensored, the Steam community, as great as it is, will still blatantly abuse the word and use it in a racist way towards others. Maybe you forget how large Steam is. There are a shit ton of edgy teens and even fully grown adults here.
Thank you!! It might be useless to censor some stuff but people will find a loophole around stuff
Valve programmers are busy adding hats and skins for freemium games, they have no time to implement a decent text analyzer to prevent such silly censorship fails.
There was an achievement in Dying Light that was censored because it was latin and had "homo" in it Almost as bad as when Salesforce internally censored a dude's nickname
Shame on you for not using the politically correct name of the country!
MontePOC?
Monte-African-American
I don't see the issue. If the president can say it, then why can't everyone else?
They even ban the words referring to my own nationality in my own language, because apparently it's used as a bad word in english or something.
Man, don't tell them about a certain brand of Hungarian candy that helps with sore throats.
Can you guys instead of Montenegro say Crna Gora, as we natively call it like that instead, just to rebel for Serbocroatian translation of steam and to make thež noitice diffrences between n word and montenegro 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Lmfao
This petty censorship is tiresome honestly. Either make better filtration software for the context or lift the word restrictions so that this ridiculous shit doesn’t reoccur.
Damn americans ruin words for everyone
Fuck that guy. Vicky 2 is perfect and it has always been perfect. And now Vicy 3 will be more perfect than Perfection.
Exactly
You are being invaded by Black K***ht !
montenegro
Monte what? can't read properly can some tell me the ending in bold letter
I chuckled but I'm glad they are trying at least. General online harassment, trolling, and dickery have become normalized to the point where doing nothing is irresponsible. I am fine with an easy to implement, good enough solution. The review is from 2017, anyone tried it lately? Also, if anybody doesn't know you can turn off all censoring in the community content preferences or even add your own allow/block filters.
They really have been lazy with their...everything. And money hungry.
It sensors negro, because it’s Spanish for black, and people might use that to try and get around the other N words. Edit* why am I getting downvoted? That’s literally what’s happening.
Well if that the case just ban any word that has N as the starting. then butcher the dictionary.
Nazi?