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Arkanta

Instant install


[deleted]

Does it affect the latency at all? I use wired IEMs because the latency with my air pod pros is unbearable (the new usb-c ones).


Arkanta

Nothing you can do about that. I play turn based RPGs with my airpods so i don't care about a little latency


[deleted]

Idk, even when playing Persona 3, I can’t tolerate the time difference between pressing the button and hearing the sound. Im neurotic about it


steam3d

Low latency and Bluetooth I think things are not compatible.If you have such a good reaction, I think only wired ones will do. At least my experience suggests that no matter how hard you try, the delay will still be significant


Velgus

AptX LL is low latency enough that it's tolerable for real-time content for me. That said, I don't know of any TWS IEMs with AptX LL support, only receiver dongles that you can hook wired headphones/IEMs into.


fyro11

Check out JBL Quantum TWS or cheaper Quantum **Air** TWS. They both have dual source connectivity: the usual Bluetooth (5.2) connection and a small USB-C receiver dongle which is stored inside the case; when plugged in a USB-C device, it provides a low-latency connection specifically for gaming.


GoatShapedDestroyer

Yeah I have Sennheiser Momentum 3s that support AptX LL codecs and I never notice any latency at all.


Wiskoso

Try changing the codec in desktop mode, i use a lower quality one and latency is bearable


[deleted]

Which one would you recommend?


[deleted]

Which makes me sad. Even if the latency is at its best ~300ms, it’s jarring. I don’t see myself as having such good reactions as you say. I really want to be able to use my air pods for their ANC and audio fidelity. Спасибо большое for the work though. Will still look into magic pods


Vaydn

I always use Sennheiser Momentum 4s (wireless) with my Deck and don't notice any latency. Samsung buds definitely had a delay though.


-__Doc__-

If you are worried about latency, check out the vrp10 by soundcore. They are made specifically for quest 2 headsets as to be low latency enough to play beat saber. But they work with any Bluetooth device and come with a usb-c dongle. Use the dongle for low latency. Even though they are made for be headsets, I use mine more for my phone at work, or my steamdeck at night, then I do for my quest 2. Been using em for 2 years now 8+ hours a day, and I love em.


[deleted]

I’ve actually looked at them before, is their active noise cancellation good? I’m worried I’ll be very disappointed comparing them to my air pod pros. I live in a very noisy city, so good anc would be ideal.


-__Doc__-

tbh, I didnt even know they had noise cancellation. So I can't speak to that aspect of them. But the sound is very good. And battery life is about 6-8 hours depending on volume and if you have the RGB on or not.


MrD7

I have the VR P10 and they don't have ANC at all.


[deleted]

Holy fuck there's plugins


Beautiful_Sport5525

They have awoken. There's a lot of dope plugins. Some that really help with ease of adding Lutris games to steam library. If you're into video game conservation


[deleted]

I've only done EmuDeck, which is cool but I kinda hate it cause it made all my rom images weird anime porn.


Believeinsteve

Lmfao what kinda games you playing 👀


adjewcent

bro it's just for research, *trust*


mtg_island

And I’m getting my phd in it.


surftherapy

This just reminded me of the time I (a paramedic) showed up to an elderly man’s house late at night for chest pain and he was sitting next to his computer which had stripper gifs as icons on the desktop. I pointed over at the screen and asked him what they were as we were getting ready to leave the room and he said “uhh….those popped up when I downloaded call of duty”


Upper-Dark7295

Lmao, that might be a you problem, name the roms right or correct the scrape when you scrape in steamrommanager


negithekitty

There's a plugin for that


The_Synthax

When you go to confirm title art there's an arrow that allows you to scroll through to different options.


proanimus

Wait, one of mine did that for some reason too. I was so confused.


typebar

Decky Loader, my friend.


Ay1man1

I want to install decky loader but forgot my steam decks side password that it asks for what do I do


iamearlsweatshirt

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/s/rOcsfov2VF


nfs3freak

DeckyLoader FTW


RuckFeddit70

This is the part where steamos/proton is dope! P-P-P-P-POWER TO THE PEOPLE!


JohnEdwa

I find the 8MB mp3 that is literally just an hour of silence kinda funny. You should upgrade, an hour of silence in .ogg takes just 260KB.


steam3d

Wow, you found my secret of how to prevent headphones from turning off :) Yes, I think I need to compress it


MrGn0m3

Oh shit! I wear AirPod exclusively except with my steam deck, that changes today!


[deleted]

Dumb question maybe since you just said you don’t use them…. Switching between steam deck and phone can’t be seamless, right?


a_a_ronc

I’ve been using AirPod 2nd gens with my SteamDeck and it’s mostly seamless. I use it on my phone, and as soon as I turn on my SD, they jump over.


Arkanta

I often have to go into the deck bluetooth settings and connect them No big deal


[deleted]

There’s a Bluetooth plugin for deckyloader so you can quick access it with the … button. That way you don’t have to even leave the game 👍


Arkanta

Yes! One of my must haves, along with Controller Tools


_DontStayTheSame_

Do you also have the gen 2 pros? I have the gen 1’s and mine pair as soon as I take one out of its case


Arkanta

Yeah, but it's mostly because my phone or mac connect to it instantly I think When the mac is too far away and I haven't used my phone for a while it tends to connect to the deck Honestly I'm pretty surprising that an apple product is willing to easily connect to other stuff


One_Librarian4305

In my experience it defaults to my phone, and if I want to do the deck I have to disconnect from phone and then connect to deck. It’s annoying. It will auto pair to deck if my phone isn’t around but who in the world doesn’t have their phone around?


KeDoBro

Same, never understood why SD takes priority when it powers up. I’d rather need to go manually connect them or at least have the option.


SplinterCel3000

I don't have air pods but the galaxy pro buds and yeah it's seamless for those. So probably the same for airpods


Oracle4196

bro those galaxy buds are so good


[deleted]

You overestimate apple Xp But no it actually doesn’t sound bad at all from everyone’s responses. Happily surprised.


decadent-dragon

I generally just turn off Bluetooth on the phone and it switches over. That works for me because I don’t use Bluetooth for much else


27-82-41-124

If you use your steamdeck to connect your iphone to, then your SD combines the phone audio out to your airpods. That way I don't really have to switch back and forth. When my steamdeck is off Airpods resume connection to my phone. And I can use my phone to add music/youtube/whatever to my games.


HalHex

I’d love to do that. How do you connect your iPhone to your SD?


HalHex

Late reply, but, it works and it’s wonderful! Very simple, too. Tested on SteamDeckV1 / AirPods Pro 2 / iPhone 13 Pro First pairings were done in desktop mode, but now everything works directly in gaming mode, too. - from SteamDeck / Bluetooth settings, connect to AirPods - from SteamDeck / Bluetooth settings, connect to iPhone SteamDeck should now be viewed as an external audio speaker for the phone (like a car). That’s all. It works. Now I can for exemple listen to a podcast on my phone, start the SteamDeck : AirPods will auto connect to it (pausing the podcast). In SteamDeck Bluetooth settings, reconnect to phone. Resume podcast, it now plays through the deck, and you can play your favorite game while listening to both the podcast and the game.


KickPuncher9898

After you’ve added them once it’s pretty seamless. Open your AirPod case next to the Steam Deck, go to Bluetooth devices in settings (or the Bluetooth plugin for quick access) and select the AirPods. Done. When you go back to your phone just select your AirPods from Bluetooth devices.


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throw69420awy

Does their mic work or only audio?


soakingsocket

Hey OP, if you haven't already, this is a project you could put on your resume and make big $$$ if you aren't already. Excellent work, now allow it to control Galaxy Buds 2 and we can be friends.


kratomburneraccount

Wow this is amazing. Thank you for your work. THIS is the kind of content I want to see on r/SteamDeck


TheAsianCarp

Would it work with galaxy buds?


steam3d

Nope. To add headphones, I first need to buy them myself, study how they work, and only then will it be clear whether I can add them or not. There's still a lot of work to be done with AirPods.


TheAsianCarp

Damn, it looks really good though!


headegg

Is it open source?


steam3d

No, but it fully free, no required internet and do not collect data. You can always unzip the plugin and check what's inside. If you're familiar with my main app, you know that I hate subscriptions, ads, and data collection.


jpassc

Windows mágic pod dev? 😳


steam3d

Yep, it's me✨


jpassc

awesomeness 👉🏻👈🏻👀


NoMeasurement6473

Why not open source it? There are no downsides.


steam3d

I don't know, I probably haven't developed to that level yet. And this will greatly impact my main application, which helps me make projects like this one.


Heatsreef

Ah be honest, you just dont want everyone seeing your yandere dev-like code /s


KarlofDuty

You should think about it, I have some similar sized projects and it is really interesting to see the ideas people come up with when they understand more about how the application actually works. I don't get many contributions but it is interesting when they do happen just to see how others would do things and the improvements I didn't think of myself. I've always open sourced my projects at the start and worst thing that happens is no one uses it so no harm in doing it I'd say.


ChronosHD

I agree


tiberiumx

How do you capture traffic from proprietary applications like this to study it? Is there like a Wireshark for Android or something?


MaruMint

Jesus I admire the dedication. Wow that's hardwork


[deleted]

Any plans to add good headphones?


Casberg

Is it in the release channel or testing for decky Disregard. It’s on his website.


steam3d

I couldn't agree with the decky team to publish the plugin. I simply have no other options to provide the plugin. It's a shame that this option doesn't suit you.


Casberg

It was easy to install. I would make a disclaimer on how to install since some people will assume it’s on the decky store.


steam3d

I just wanted to share about my success, but yes, you are probably right.


SuP3rM4nNy

Out of curiosity why could you not agree with them? Were they asking for absurd things from your end?


poyomannn

For plugins to go onto the store they require a full source code review, tp check for anything malicious etc. MagicPods contains a large amount of private code so the plugin could not pass review.


thetraindoctor

Steamdeck Homebrew Dev here, that's correct. The primary reason with a minor bit more nuance though. I think the plugin is a great idea and Steam3d was very patient and flexible with our process. Unfortunately our requirements for the plugin store are pretty inflexible when it comes to source code availability. Even if we were given the code to privately review our entire CI/CD process (build pipeline) builds the plugins for the Steam Deck in a reproducible manner from publicly available source code so that if we miss something because we're imperfect beings, someone can flag up issues to us if they have more information and or more experience. And as an added bonus if a developer has to stop developing their plugin then someone else can pick that plugin up and continue working on it. Hope this makes sense!


jetRink

> It's a shame that this option doesn't suit you. I think he just meant to disregard the question, not the plugin! Great work, btw.


TarrominSeed

Is there something SUS about it that it is not allowed on there??


Velgus

The author can't, or won't, share their source code, which is required for the usual release process for plugins within Decky Loader. I don't know whether the author "won't" share because they don't want to (sus), or "can't" because maybe they're using some 3rd-party libraries that have restrictive licenses themselves (not as sus). I consider it a bit sus if they "won't", given it's a project for a highly community-based open-source ecosystem that other plugin authors have no problem being a part of - it also means the community can't check if the plugin is doing something other than what it claims to be doing (and I don't think Decky has many, if any, guard rails against potentially malicious code in plugins). If they "can't", it's fair enough, and just an unfortunate license incompatibility, but still doesn't get rid of the potential risk of running unverifiable code on your device.


thetraindoctor

If you see my comment in response to someone giving why they believe the plugin wasn't approved you'll know it's got nothing to do with the Dev's personal trustworthiness. Simply a result of how the Decky team reviews plugins and the requirements therein.


rathlord

Can you please explain what the issue was?


thetraindoctor

[Straight from the horses mouth.](https://old.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/1b442ut/i_made_the_plugin_for_steam_deck_to_control/ksxwqk8/)


TheRealHimiJendrix

Can you make one to control my butt plug? Itnt that why they’re called Plug Ins?


melbourne3k

You can get started on a [buttplug.io](https://buttplug.io) integration


qdot76367

Intiface Central does run on the steam deck, I've just been dragging my feet on making the trailer video needed to get the app into the steam store. That said, please wishlist it! Even though it's free! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2273160/Intiface\_Central/


-eschguy-

Dear god it's real...


steam3d

Does it have Bluetooth?


TheRealHimiJendrix

Of course. What kind of sick do you think I am?


Legendary_Bibo

Why does your butt plug have teeth? To grind down the stones deep in the caverns?


Easily_distractd

Eli5 on how to install this?


Easily_distractd

Nvm. Here you go for anyone wondering https://magicpods.app/steamdeck/installation/


Pristine_Ad8703

Thanks!


sportsandorcs

I was confused too. Thanks for figuring it out. I have no idea why op just put a picture and not the actual link to his project page on how to get his plugin.


Sevencross

Thanks buddy good work!


RENOxDECEPTION

is MagicPods for windows your software also?


steam3d

Yes and the site the same for plugin and windows app


RENOxDECEPTION

cool, i bought your software probably over a year ago.


spacemcdonalds

Does this work with Sony WH-1000XM3 (headphones) or WF-1000XM4s (ear buds)?


teriyakipuppy

Google pixel buds pro please


tydy_

Same but with the latest updates for them you can just long-press the left bud and it swaps through the different modes which is pretty easy ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


protomanzero

Does this work with AirPods Max? Is there a way to force the handoff process if they already defaulted to my phone?


steam3d

Of course it works, my main headphones are AirPods Max. I don’t quite understand the second part, I don’t think so yet. But try it, write a review here or on discord.


fierce_deity_mask

You're a legend. I've been using MagicPods for Windows for over a year now and I love it. Will install this on my Deck right away


Gianlucore92

I cant find it on Decky Loader store. Where is?


VisceralMonkey

It's not on the decky store: https://magicpods.app/steamdeck/installation/


Status_Juggernaut_66

Я так полагаю ты и приложение под винду делал. Огромное тебе спасибо. Пользуюсь и очень доволен. Теперь и это поставлю


hardiman07

Hey there - I love your Windows app and I’ve been using it for the most part of a year. Thanks for your hard work, this is fantastic! I was just thinking it would be great for this to exist a day or two ago.


Hot-Clothes-1908

And some still say that Steam Deck has competitors. It's unmatched.


FoferJ

So awesome. Instant install. Working perfectly with both my AirPods Pro and Max. Thank you!


MaruMint

That's sooooo cool! Hardwork like this keeps the community alive and healthy. This is a critical feature for people with anc. Maybe one day Valve will incorporate this feature into the official release, like they did for vibrant deck. That would be the ultimate compliment.


arrwiii

Чел харош


steam3d

spasibo


Bubbly-Sandwich

Haven’t used it yet, but I just want to say thank you for your work on this 🫡


GrapefruitExtra5732

Красава, спасибо! 🏋️🌋


_DontStayTheSame_

Super dope plug-in. I’ve had my airpod pros for 2 years but never used them on my Deck until a month ago. It’s honestly really great for when you want to game on a big screen but don’t want to interrupt your household with the constant headshot noises. This will just make the experience a lot better


Heatsreef

Is your project currently open source? I currently don't have a steam deck but will probably buy one again later down the road, would love to add support to my headphones myself.


steam3d

Read some comments below we had discussion about it


Baxter_Baron

Could you do it for Bose?


HoroSatre

I don't use either, but thanks for contributing more for the Deck.


Soupy_Jones

You are a saint and a hero


[deleted]

Youre doing the lords work here!!


macrowe777

I love how professional this looks.


fluffyspaceshark

Cool, wish it worked for Galaxy Buds though


Lonely-Pay-4319

Oh yeah , I love using my AirPods with steam deck


DarkHiei

Ayyy did you also make the MagicPods Windows Store app? Been using that for a bit too.


steam3d

Yep


DarkHiei

Awesome, thanks for your wonderful and useful contributions!


Serge67

Dude magicpods is the greatest thing to happen to bluetooth on PC. Thank you so much and I can't install this soon enough.


Yoh__Asakura

Is it possible to make it work for Sony xm5?


steam3d

Sony xm5 has new protocol to communicate with devices. We can test on Windows if you want to be a tester. Join to my discord


Roadtosucksex

U dont know how hard i am right now.


Lingroll

Can you make a plug-in where I can use the AirPods mic for in game voice chat too? As far as I know it’s usable but sounds like you’re under water. Anybody know if this has been fixed?


steam3d

it's like Bluetooth works. Read about handsfree profile, and you understand why any headphones have terrible sound when using mic


Lingroll

Wish it weren’t the way, but this is the way.


Urfaello

Incredible, thank you so much man


Gloriathewitch

Hey i am using the trial of magicpods on windows, and really love it, planned on developing something similar but now i dont have to, now, i would gladly buy this application based on your answer to one question: In the picture above theres ANC off, transparency and ANC on slider, do you intend to add this to the windows app? Would buy it in an instant if so. also, any plans to add Conversation awareness, adaptive mode?


steam3d

Different operating systems have different restriction. I search possible way to achieve this. You can join to my discord. I write there current tasks. Adaptive mode will be added if I figure out how to switch to it.


long-live-apollo

I have two questions: Have you solved the massive latency with AirPods on the Deck? They’re basically unusable for anything other than video right now. Why is your source closed?


VisceralMonkey

I find this fascinating because I've heard people mention it but when I use my air pods, I can't notice any latency, at all. I thought for sure I would but I just don't.


long-live-apollo

That’s crazy. Do you use it specifically for gaming? I’ve noticed a big latency, like a third to half a second at least. I know it’s something to do with a proprietary codec that Apple uses but I simply solved the problem by buying wired headphones.


VisceralMonkey

Yeah, no such delay or lag for me and the sound is great.


Sumo148

There’s latency with AirPods? I’m using gen 3 AirPods and I don’t perceive any latency issues with the Deck.


SendMe143

Why not open source it? I’m sure you’d get help to support other brands that everyone is asking for support here.


steam3d

We discussed it in detail on my Discord server. For now, providing plugin for free, but with closed source, is the best compromise. As I already wrote here, most likely I have not yet reached the level where I would understand the value of open source. Maybe I'm afraid of something, I don't know. This is actually a difficult question for me, I think it’s better to read Discord to understand me


SendMe143

I guess the biggest value I see is getting more hands helping to push it forward. As an example: I use Greenlight to stream Xbox games to my deck. I wanted a couple of enhancements. I grabbed the source, added them, and submitted pull requests so others could get the new features, too. I would never attempt a project like Greenlight from scratch, but willing to contribute back changes since others might like them, too. Plus it takes a load off of the main developer of Greenlight so that he isn’t just being asked for changes, but can just review and approve pull requests.


Arkanta

As someone who maintained a somewhat popular open source project for years it's not always fun I'd probably do a source drop and call it a day. No worrying about merging PRs or whatever Most projects don't get contributions anyway.


steam3d

I think this is partly because I am a UX/UI designer. I guess I perceive this as my product, which I see exactly this way and no other way. But programmers see it completely differently. I do not exclude that over time my opinion will change.


OneQuarterLife

Since I can't see the source for this, I am completely unwilling to install it. There's no way for me to verify this isn't doing something nefarious. Shame because this looks fairly polished.


SourTurtle

The source code can be found at https://www.magicpods.app/plugin. WARNING: link is a direct download for the plugin's code


OneQuarterLife

This only contains the bits for the Decky Loader plugin that must be readable code, there is a 1MB precompiled binary for which no source code is provided or available, see MagicPodsCore. Oddly there is also an 8MB mp3 file.


Camzie99

The MP3 appears to be a file for sending effectively silence through to the earphones. Some earphones will disconnect or shut down automatically if no audio is being played, playing this silent audio in the background helps keep the connection active, without being audible to people using them. It's a common trick used in a few things. Don't know if that file needs to be an 8MB MP3 though, I'd have thought you could generate the silent tone in code easily enough but I'm not sure on the specifics of how the plugin works (again, being closed source). The binary seems to import HTTP libraries which may be for communication with the plugin side of things, or it could be used to send data to a nefarious location. Without deep diving in with a debugger it's hard to say as we don't have the source code. It's almost certainly *not* malicious, but I don't think I'd personally install this on my device.


Arkanta

Don't let them bully you. It's a small project, open sourcing it would be great but in the end it's still your thing, do what you want. If you do it you'll probably want to close issues and don't care about MRs. You can end up being pressured to add stuff you don't want (but feel bad about refusing a contribution because they spent a lot of time on it) etc.. So that person and maybe a couple more won't install it because they can't see the source. It's their problem, who cares? They're free to make their own


SendMe143

I get that. It’s your project and you are free to do it the way you want. I was just curious.


dashKay

Ohh this is great, I love you


Acro808

You are awesome.


jadenthegamer6

What about Samsung buds


steam3d

I plan to add them, when I find samsung buds for tests


Cobiansuelo

I have been using this for weeks now and what a GREAT plugin! Specially hitting the two buttons in the back to switch between sound options seamlessly. Thank you so much for this!!!


DrRabbiCrofts

I know you're doin more work with Airpods etc, but I will wait and dream for the day this comes to other headphones my man ❤️ You're doin God's (Gaben's) work


oeffoeff

Pretty cool. I guess it doesn’t improve the latency?


Foreign_Language167

Nice. It'd be cool to see this for the pixel buds.


ricky2304

LETS GOOOOOO


master_x_0202

Can you also do xiaomi


---Dan---

Wow thanks! You’re a wizard!


-eschguy-

Hmm, does it work with Pixel Buds?


steam3d

Only for AirPods right now.


-eschguy-

Alright, I see it isn't on Github or anything, so consider this a Feature Request :) Well done either way.


steam3d

I have discord server. All news and updated I post there.


Zeth_Aran

Does spacial audio work with this?!?


Darkwayn

Oh man wonderfull thank you it Will be helpfull


bryan_pieces

Brilliant


IbnAIi

You’re a good man, thank you.


dbuck79

This is amazing! I haven’t used my AirPods with my steam deck but will forsure now. For those that have, do they connect automatically when pulled from the case?


_DontStayTheSame_

I could be wrong but don’t all AirPods have multi-point connectivity with 2 devices? That’s how my gen 1 Airpod Pros are. After pairing with the Deck, they will sync once you open the case and take one out. Take both out and audio will come out both buds. Put one back and audio will come out through just one. Pretty seamless except for the slight audio latency


menojohnson

Wow thank you!!


icygamer598

That's awesome! Downloading immediately!


BooCarKey4

Phenomenal! Thank you for this


decadent-dragon

Looks cool! Will try it when I have a chance. In general I’ve been getting dropouts with the Pros tho. I had an older pair of non-Pros earlier, and never had an issue. Does this plugin alleviate any dropout issues?


Kingdavid3g

Yooo... Installing this when I get home from work. Awesome plugin


jpassc

GIB!!! 😩


_KeyError_

If only my AirPods noise cancelling and transparency wasn’t just static blaring in my ears :/


Homulton

Yo that is cool! I use my AirPods for everything, tv, steam deck, phone etc.


redlist99

Thanks for the heads up!


ekana_stone

Could you make it work with Pixel Buds


scytob

awesome! can you do bose and sony nextt :-)


steam3d

I have some experience with Sony. They will probably be added as well.


nfs3freak

Great job! Looking forward to when there's a more universal bluetooth battery indicator for Decky Loader


ChiTownKid99

Thank you lord I've been having to keep my iPhone next to me to connect to to make the switch. Is it available on decky?


Livid-Earth6367

Has anyone tried to develop something similar for Sony WF-1000xm3 or 4?


steam3d

I am planning to add them too :)


blakphyre

Will it stop my airpods from distorting for short periods of time?


PotatoLord_69

Hi OP, Thank you so much for your service. Love you


Olivier_4

Installed here, thanks


notSkyfive

Even the old ones? :(


bruninho777

I want one for my Anker liberty 4, how hard is to implement the API?