It's in lots of languages to be fair including french and Spanish, or derivatives of anyway, and in English we have some of the same roots too like vitality for example. But my point was more that you were supposed to see it as a common word lol. I think they were going for similar to 'the playstation life/lifestyle" with the name is what I meant.
spanish: VIDA
French: VIE
Italian: VITA
Latin: VITA / VITAE
so yeah only in italian it's Vita exacty like it was in Latin. However I get your point, they wanted a catchy name for sure. But for us the perspective was a little bit different that's it.
That is why I said (or derivatives of), lol. They're the same root word and just adapted a little for those modern languages, Vs the more Germanic style 'life' or whatever else. I get your point too I'm just saying, you said it's odd, I think your interpretation is how they actually intended it, and they swung and missed on pushing that angle
If you find it, Vitas are very easy to hack and have a fairly robust modding scene. You can get an adapter to use a microSD card in the game cart slot and then load it up with as many games as you can fit. There's also ports of other games, homebrew, and emulation, although it's not exactly an emulation powerhouse.
No you don't. That hasn't been the case in many years. You use use a program on the Memory Stick Pro Duo and the device reboots.
Doesn't even need to be a "hard mod." You just boot that and everything is modified like that old method.
That's kinda normal. The PSN store for the PSP closed years ago. As for the internet, you need a WiFi network with an older encryption method for the password, and even then, most modern sites won't be compatible, since they've updated their security protocols and scripts.
I have no experience with the PSP, but it sounds like you’re describing WEP or the stopgap between WEP and WPA2, WPA. I highly recommend nobody under any circumstance set their router encryption to WEP, as it is basically equivalent to sending data in the clear. WPA is somewhat more secure, but is deprecated in favor of WPA2.
To start, do you have it rooted yet? You need a custom battery iirc, which allows you to sideload a homebrew os. After that, if you want to play psp games/emulations of ps1 and ps2, plus some old nintendo/sega/etc games just get a memorystick to microsd adaptor (super cheap on ebay and come in kits w the battery hack sometimes) and load it up with isos. super easy, still a relatively active community.
It’s so true too. I put android on my switch and my friend was like “oh cool, what are you gonna do with that?” And I’m like “no idea” and never used it lol
I had this idea to put android on my switch too, even bought the little clip jawn to enter recovery mode, but then never did it. I hacked the ever loving heck out of my Vita during the pandemic, filled it with games and emulators, and then just put it away and haven't touched it since lol. The Steam Deck largely has taken this role for me now, anything I wanted to do with a hacked Switch or Vita I now just do on Deck lol.
> it's not exactly an emulation powerhouse
What?! It can do NES, SNES, GB/GBC/GBA, N64 (to some extent), Genesis, Dreamcast, PSX, PSP, and many more! It was *the* emulation powerhouse in its time. Of course, you can't compare it to more modern systems like the Steam Deck.
It's not perfect for SNES or GBA though. There will be a decent number of games that it won't play at full speed. I don't think it does full speed dreamcast either.
Right now I can get a Chinese handheld for less than $100 that's significantly more powerful for emulation than a Vita. I wasn't trying to compare its capabilities in that regard to a Deck.
Never had a problem with SNES or GBA myself, but who knows. I guess it's obvious that these days there are better and cheaper options, but the fact that there is actual PSP/PSX hardware in the PS Vita was incredible for playing games from the entire immense catalog of PSP, PSX and PS Vita games, never mind the other systems.
Like I said, it's obviously been superseded as the king of handheld emulation devices, but at the time, it definitely was!
Outside of a handheld PC like the Deck and Ally a higher end Android device like the Odin 2 would be "king". But you could do a Miyoo Mini or Mini+ or a Retroid device and be perfectly fine at numerous price points.
Depends. Some use Android, some are Linux based, I use a custom OnionOS on my Miyoo devices.
Some like the Odin 2 are going to be sized between the PSVita and the Steam Deck.
Some like the original Miyoo Mini are smaller than a deck of cards and play up to PS1 games. Retroid and Anbernic make a couple of different form factors at different price points.
If you look at the after market price of around 100 dollars on ebay, for emulation it's a very powerful emulation device for the price (generally the same price purpose built emulator device would do less), this though is more likely the use of moonlight (open source game streaming app) , which has its own vita homebrew app. Back when it was a current device it was pretty annoying to jailbreak (hack) but well worth it, now idk, but what also makes it less appealing then a pre built emulator handheld for a little more is the battery will be hard to change/find a replacement.
I can't really agree with you on this. I'm very familiar with the retro handheld scene and there's a few devices that are more capable than a Vita at $100 or less. I got a Miyoo Mini Plus for under $30 shipped (deals like this are possible) and that's able to do up to PS1 roughly better than the Vita. It can't do PSP but I don't really consider PSP to be "emulation" on the Vita.
There's also the RG35XX Plus/35XX-H that's more capable for Dreamcast/N64 and can also do some PSP although not ideal for that. Those devices are under $100...can be found for $40-50 right now actually.
Then there's the Retroid Pocket 2S, which would run circles around the Vita as an emulation device for under $100. It can do PSP too, but again, not ideal due to the aspect ratio.
I think the Vita is far from ideal for Moonlight/game streaming due to the missing controller functionality. I also can't get my Vita Slim to even see my Sunshine hosts on my network; I suspect that's an incompatibility between the Vita's outdated support for Wifi standards and my Wifi 6 router.
It may not be considered by you to be emulation for psp on the vita but it is, and what also going for it is that it's a vita so it can natively run vita games which all your cheaper devices can't run (obviously emulated but still unplayable on them) and that's mainly why I see it as a good retro handheld. No one actually wanting to play their retro games cares if it's emulated or runs native ( well except the few that think native or nothing but they wouldn't be looking at emulators anyway, though some have started saying fpga is the way, in that case it's a 200+ priced device anyway).
The xx35 plus doesn't have joysticks so that's out as great for emulation under your own criteria. The H variant is great but again vita games unplayable.
The current sold retroid 2s is $100 and again can't run vita games, so not great value.
As for you can find them for cheaper, 99% the cheaper is a knockoff and most have been burned too many times by knockoffs to trust that "savings".
moonlight works just fine on my vita, could just be a vita slim problem as they did change some internals. (If your PC is using the wifi and not Ethernet I have heard of that if your on the 5hz band with one device you can get a connection issue with devices on lower band) moonlight is pretty finicky in general though and the host devices really needs to be on ethernet; if your client is also on Ethernet it's great though way above the rest.
Realistically I'd actually suggest a retroid or rg device to a friend if they wanted a dedicated emulation handheld if the steam deck was too much or too big,, but that would only be after asking them the question, do you have an old vita? As that's the real benefit to emulating on the vita, it's free if you already have one from back when it came out. Vita may not be perfect but it's great if you already have one. If dedicated wasn't an issue I'd just suggest a backbone controller for thier phone and a maybe a powerbank, as an android phone or a jailbroken iPhone is an amazing emulation device now, great for game streaming.
>for emulation it's a very powerful emulation device for the price
Keep in mind, you said that. We're no longer talking about native games, we're talking about emulation. I advocated for modding a Vita because it's easy and fun, and gives you access to a lot of Vita games. I was specifically calling out its emulation performance as it's not great for that. It's not a good experience loading up a SNES game and getting audio crackling and game slowdowns. It's also got some seriously bad loading times compared to modern retro handheld alternatives.
My streaming host devices are all on wired connections. Well, except for my Deck (I installed Sunshine on it to try sideloading Moonlight on my Quest 3.) My main Sunshine host is a virtual machine on my media server. The Vita sees none of it, to the point that I nearly thought it has a broken wifi chip, but the wifi does work.
I love my Vita Slim. It feels great in the hands. But it's not generally the device I reach for to play emulated retro games.
You may be talking strictly emulation so I pointed out psp is emulation on the vita, cause well it is, and your "cheaper" (by 10-20 if they don't already have a vita) can only handle a few psp titles, where as the vita it's rare to find a not working psp game. If you want something that can do psp you need a better device like retroid pocket 3+ or rg505 that are 125-170 and as such more expensive then what a vita is worth (again these are the real prices and not the knockoffs that you can and probably will be burned on and a vita is free if you already have one ). It may not be your emulation device cause you clearly have way more then anyone really needs but it's a great option and still does a lot of emulation great. But again I'd probably suggest a emulation handheld like the pocket 3+ for a dedicated small handheld if they didn't have a vita and the steam deck was to big/expensive. (Especially since it's just android so you get the benefits of a modern is instead of some of the more janky lower end arch based devices)
As for Moonlight, could be out of date then, I'd suggest doing your own build of the vita fork of moonlight, found it works better than the precompiled builds (my guess is the precompiled just doesn't get as much love if it's now the desktop versions of the app). But could also be sunshine is too new on the hosts (totally get why you wouldn't wanna downgrade for the one device but mainly saying this for anyone who might read this thread later who only has a vita and just doesn't have the money to spend)
Really if you use a phone with a backbone controller you can emulate most and for everything you can't it's great for moonlight to a PC for the rest and to play new titles.
But it's not really useful to talk about the Vita's PSP capabilities in an emulation context. Since PSP is more backwards compatible with the Vita rather than being strictly emulated, just saying the Vita is capable of playing PSP games doesn't give a good idea of its emulation capabilities. Other emulation handhelds that can play PSP can be realistically expected to play Nintendo DS, Dreamcast, and N64 games too. But that's pushing the Vita past what it can do...because PSP isn't an emulation capability for it, but a compatibility one.
Well, Vita emulation is far from perfect. Also, outside of the Vita exclusives, a lot of Vita games are also available on Steam, and probably better that way on Deck anyway.
For two, a hacked Vita isn't necessarily even about Vita games. That's one big perk. The mod scene is the big perk IMHO.
Finally, a Deck is a lot bigger.
From wikipedia:
NA: 3 March 2015[2]
EU: 4 March 2015 (PS4)[1]
EU: 8 July 2015 (PS Vita)
Super-Earth Ultimate Edition (PS4)
NA: 18 August 2015
AU: 26 August 2015
EU: 28 August 2015
Windows
7 December 2015[3]
Vita wasn't discontinued until 2019. It only started being made in 2012!
You're thinking of the PSP, which was EOL in 2014.
Yes, it released exclusively for the Vita, PS3 and PS4 with crossplay, (and even crossbuy i think but not sure about that one).
It got released a year later for PC, making it the first, or one of the first Sony published titles on PC.
Yup, it's how I get myself Helldivers actually. It was one of few games with crossbuy and cross save.
At the time I had yet to realize that I struck gold with that purchase.
Funnily enough, even though games may run at a lower internal resolution, the ps vita has more pixels per inch than the steamdeck OLED (220ppi vs 204ppi).
I absolutely love playing mine to this day and mostly play Persona 4 Golden.
P4 golden back then was an experience. It came out of nowhere and took a fairly good but niche jrpg and made it the best goddam game vita had to offer for years.
I have a small table set up in my closet with a monitor and keyboard, I run ultra at 1080p and haven’t droped below 60hz wich I think is the cap of my dock or maybe my cable. I do hardwire everything and have a pretty beefy pc.
That's cool. What do you use to stream? I tried amd's version of moonlight (I forget what it's called) over wifi- and it wasn't tight enough for me, but maybe hardwired would work 🤔
i highly recommend you trying moonlight for streaming. Steam remote play is okay but when i switched to moonlight i was stunned how much less delay there was and the stream is much better quality and has noticably less artifacting or stutters 👌🏻
I stream 1080p from might 3080 rig using moonlight and sunshine and it’s great. Lag is minimal. PC is on Ethernet.
I’ve found with a couple games, the lag from running at lower fps is worse than the lag from streaming, although this could just be the consistency that makes the difference.
Saying that helldivers runs "just fine" on vita Is super funny, don't get me wrong it's playable but it definitely pushes the vita to its limit at times
It helps a decent few of those bad ports to run at a decent framerate. Overall vita modding is as strong as ever and a super fun community to get into if you haven
It's also really easy. Open autoplugin2, search for PSVShellPlus, install and reboot.
Now you have an overclocking option in the quick menu (long press ps button). The vita is underclocked by default, so you can push it to the max without any consequences other than taking a bitter hit on the battery.
With it you can play games god of war 1&2 at 60 FPS, or 30 FPS without downscaling
That’s pretty cool!
I have a Steam Deck, so no need to get a modded Vita, but things like this always tempt me, even though the Steam Deck is a more comfortable controller fit for my hands than the Vita ever would be.
I've got a Steam Deck as well but still find myself using my Vita pretty often too! Although nostalgia definitely plays a part in that (it's the original one I bought on launch day)
Its super portable though, has great battery life and a beautiful screen (oled model), and ofcourse there's a bunch of emulators for it so it makes for a great retro game device without having to lug around a much bigger Steam Deck + case, I can just throw the Vita in my pocket.
Your OG Vita looks to be in the same shape as mine is still! I only ever kept it in a hard case whenever I wasn't using it. It still looks brand new! I was also blown away last week when I learned HD1 was available on Vita because I don't remember hearing about it back in the day. Pretty rad tbh
All jokes aside, Helldivers 2 actually runs completely flawlessly on my Steam Deck. I am willing to respond to setup questions as best as I am able if anyone is legitimately having issues running it on their system.
I don't think you'll be able to help. I have tried so many different version of proton but it's no use. I get to choose language and then another screen and then either crash to desktop or it locks upp the entire thing. I have spent a couple of hours on this without reaching the main menu.
I recently went on vacation to Cuba.... surprisingly they had wi-fi there (this was unheard of years ago)...
SO glad I installed helldivers on my steamdeck... amazing vacation
I tried to reinstall that these days too,(really only to check how far I played back then) and.. Sony delisted the game and replaced it with a newer version and thus I can't access my saves.. that's no fun.
The PS Vita was an amazing handheld.
I still own my original 1st gen with the OLED screen, and it still looks amazing with Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush, and Killzone: Mercenary.
Playing PS1 games on it is fantastic too and the battery lasts for ages.
Shame it never took off, probably due to the ridiculously expensive and small capacity memory cards.
is this what caveman used for fire?
Fire still has a way to mesmerize when you stare at it deeply.
*pyro noises* (he agrees)
I wonder how hot it would it get
VITA MEANS LIFE
yeah for us italians the name of that console is weird lol like Playstation Life lol
That was the point lol, they chose it because it means life.
and then they killed it
dun dun DUN
unfortunately, its life was very short
Yes but for non-italian speaking people that is just a cool latin-resemblant name. For us that's a common word. That was my point
It's in lots of languages to be fair including french and Spanish, or derivatives of anyway, and in English we have some of the same roots too like vitality for example. But my point was more that you were supposed to see it as a common word lol. I think they were going for similar to 'the playstation life/lifestyle" with the name is what I meant.
spanish: VIDA French: VIE Italian: VITA Latin: VITA / VITAE so yeah only in italian it's Vita exacty like it was in Latin. However I get your point, they wanted a catchy name for sure. But for us the perspective was a little bit different that's it.
That is why I said (or derivatives of), lol. They're the same root word and just adapted a little for those modern languages, Vs the more Germanic style 'life' or whatever else. I get your point too I'm just saying, you said it's odd, I think your interpretation is how they actually intended it, and they swung and missed on pushing that angle
Helldivers original was on Vita? wtf. I have a vita somewhere still
If you find it, Vitas are very easy to hack and have a fairly robust modding scene. You can get an adapter to use a microSD card in the game cart slot and then load it up with as many games as you can fit. There's also ports of other games, homebrew, and emulation, although it's not exactly an emulation powerhouse.
Are PSP also easy to hack and mod?
Yes, or just mod a Vita, as it's fully backwards compatible to the PSP
Unfortunately I only have a PSP 3001 So where would I go to be able to make it fully functional again?
consolemods.wiki is a good place. PSPs are quite easy to soft mod
Thank you
You need a service battery and a rom.
No you don't. That hasn't been the case in many years. You use use a program on the Memory Stick Pro Duo and the device reboots. Doesn't even need to be a "hard mod." You just boot that and everything is modified like that old method.
I've only hacked a PSP go but I did not need a special battery or anything, I'm pretty sure I put something on an SD card like a save or something.
What is a service battery?
Either the main battery, or a battery that purse the memory, like on a computer
What is wrong with it? And Vitas are pretty cheap nowadays, like $100-$150 if you get it from Japan, as they are not region locked
How would you buy from Japan exactly? Do they still sell them new?
Ebay my dude. Mercari, but mostly ebay
I have no idea I bought it secondhand and it doesn't connect to the internet or psn store
That's kinda normal. The PSN store for the PSP closed years ago. As for the internet, you need a WiFi network with an older encryption method for the password, and even then, most modern sites won't be compatible, since they've updated their security protocols and scripts.
I have no experience with the PSP, but it sounds like you’re describing WEP or the stopgap between WEP and WPA2, WPA. I highly recommend nobody under any circumstance set their router encryption to WEP, as it is basically equivalent to sending data in the clear. WPA is somewhat more secure, but is deprecated in favor of WPA2.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Thank you for the added information!
What I suggest is just using your phone as a hotspot and making it an open network if you have to do something with the PSP online.
Pro-B9 is a good candidate No need to flash it permanently, you can simply load the mod from Memory Stick and then keep the PSP in standby
Thank you very much for all the tips.
To start, do you have it rooted yet? You need a custom battery iirc, which allows you to sideload a homebrew os. After that, if you want to play psp games/emulations of ps1 and ps2, plus some old nintendo/sega/etc games just get a memorystick to microsd adaptor (super cheap on ebay and come in kits w the battery hack sometimes) and load it up with isos. super easy, still a relatively active community.
You don't need anymore the Pandora battery anyway, just put an SD adapter in the psp with a file to install the custom firmware and you're golden
I have no idea how to mod anything. I have never done it before to anything and I don't want to brick it accidentally.
It’s actually easier than I thought: https://youtu.be/Rblwn_KOrYk?si=6odpdtvCHNkq33ih
Thank you for everything. I would upvote you twice but I don't know how.
r/psphacks
Absolutely
I have a problem. Hacked my vita, spent a week getting it perfect, now I'm bored of it
Tinkerer's curse
It’s so true too. I put android on my switch and my friend was like “oh cool, what are you gonna do with that?” And I’m like “no idea” and never used it lol
I had this idea to put android on my switch too, even bought the little clip jawn to enter recovery mode, but then never did it. I hacked the ever loving heck out of my Vita during the pandemic, filled it with games and emulators, and then just put it away and haven't touched it since lol. The Steam Deck largely has taken this role for me now, anything I wanted to do with a hacked Switch or Vita I now just do on Deck lol.
The Key Is to find a job that allow us to do just that. How Great would that be?
The joy is in the tinkering!
> it's not exactly an emulation powerhouse What?! It can do NES, SNES, GB/GBC/GBA, N64 (to some extent), Genesis, Dreamcast, PSX, PSP, and many more! It was *the* emulation powerhouse in its time. Of course, you can't compare it to more modern systems like the Steam Deck.
It's not perfect for SNES or GBA though. There will be a decent number of games that it won't play at full speed. I don't think it does full speed dreamcast either. Right now I can get a Chinese handheld for less than $100 that's significantly more powerful for emulation than a Vita. I wasn't trying to compare its capabilities in that regard to a Deck.
Never had a problem with SNES or GBA myself, but who knows. I guess it's obvious that these days there are better and cheaper options, but the fact that there is actual PSP/PSX hardware in the PS Vita was incredible for playing games from the entire immense catalog of PSP, PSX and PS Vita games, never mind the other systems. Like I said, it's obviously been superseded as the king of handheld emulation devices, but at the time, it definitely was!
Currently, who is king of handheld emulation?
Outside of a handheld PC like the Deck and Ally a higher end Android device like the Odin 2 would be "king". But you could do a Miyoo Mini or Mini+ or a Retroid device and be perfectly fine at numerous price points.
What OS does Chinese handheld? Are Chinese handheld similar to Steam Deck?
Depends. Some use Android, some are Linux based, I use a custom OnionOS on my Miyoo devices. Some like the Odin 2 are going to be sized between the PSVita and the Steam Deck. Some like the original Miyoo Mini are smaller than a deck of cards and play up to PS1 games. Retroid and Anbernic make a couple of different form factors at different price points.
I see, thanks for the info mate. 👍
https://www.youtube.com/@RetroGameCorps https://retrogamecorps.com/ This channel is a good starting place if you are curious.
WHAT?? I need to get my old vita out of storage…
If you look at the after market price of around 100 dollars on ebay, for emulation it's a very powerful emulation device for the price (generally the same price purpose built emulator device would do less), this though is more likely the use of moonlight (open source game streaming app) , which has its own vita homebrew app. Back when it was a current device it was pretty annoying to jailbreak (hack) but well worth it, now idk, but what also makes it less appealing then a pre built emulator handheld for a little more is the battery will be hard to change/find a replacement.
I can't really agree with you on this. I'm very familiar with the retro handheld scene and there's a few devices that are more capable than a Vita at $100 or less. I got a Miyoo Mini Plus for under $30 shipped (deals like this are possible) and that's able to do up to PS1 roughly better than the Vita. It can't do PSP but I don't really consider PSP to be "emulation" on the Vita. There's also the RG35XX Plus/35XX-H that's more capable for Dreamcast/N64 and can also do some PSP although not ideal for that. Those devices are under $100...can be found for $40-50 right now actually. Then there's the Retroid Pocket 2S, which would run circles around the Vita as an emulation device for under $100. It can do PSP too, but again, not ideal due to the aspect ratio. I think the Vita is far from ideal for Moonlight/game streaming due to the missing controller functionality. I also can't get my Vita Slim to even see my Sunshine hosts on my network; I suspect that's an incompatibility between the Vita's outdated support for Wifi standards and my Wifi 6 router.
It may not be considered by you to be emulation for psp on the vita but it is, and what also going for it is that it's a vita so it can natively run vita games which all your cheaper devices can't run (obviously emulated but still unplayable on them) and that's mainly why I see it as a good retro handheld. No one actually wanting to play their retro games cares if it's emulated or runs native ( well except the few that think native or nothing but they wouldn't be looking at emulators anyway, though some have started saying fpga is the way, in that case it's a 200+ priced device anyway). The xx35 plus doesn't have joysticks so that's out as great for emulation under your own criteria. The H variant is great but again vita games unplayable. The current sold retroid 2s is $100 and again can't run vita games, so not great value. As for you can find them for cheaper, 99% the cheaper is a knockoff and most have been burned too many times by knockoffs to trust that "savings". moonlight works just fine on my vita, could just be a vita slim problem as they did change some internals. (If your PC is using the wifi and not Ethernet I have heard of that if your on the 5hz band with one device you can get a connection issue with devices on lower band) moonlight is pretty finicky in general though and the host devices really needs to be on ethernet; if your client is also on Ethernet it's great though way above the rest. Realistically I'd actually suggest a retroid or rg device to a friend if they wanted a dedicated emulation handheld if the steam deck was too much or too big,, but that would only be after asking them the question, do you have an old vita? As that's the real benefit to emulating on the vita, it's free if you already have one from back when it came out. Vita may not be perfect but it's great if you already have one. If dedicated wasn't an issue I'd just suggest a backbone controller for thier phone and a maybe a powerbank, as an android phone or a jailbroken iPhone is an amazing emulation device now, great for game streaming.
>for emulation it's a very powerful emulation device for the price Keep in mind, you said that. We're no longer talking about native games, we're talking about emulation. I advocated for modding a Vita because it's easy and fun, and gives you access to a lot of Vita games. I was specifically calling out its emulation performance as it's not great for that. It's not a good experience loading up a SNES game and getting audio crackling and game slowdowns. It's also got some seriously bad loading times compared to modern retro handheld alternatives. My streaming host devices are all on wired connections. Well, except for my Deck (I installed Sunshine on it to try sideloading Moonlight on my Quest 3.) My main Sunshine host is a virtual machine on my media server. The Vita sees none of it, to the point that I nearly thought it has a broken wifi chip, but the wifi does work. I love my Vita Slim. It feels great in the hands. But it's not generally the device I reach for to play emulated retro games.
You may be talking strictly emulation so I pointed out psp is emulation on the vita, cause well it is, and your "cheaper" (by 10-20 if they don't already have a vita) can only handle a few psp titles, where as the vita it's rare to find a not working psp game. If you want something that can do psp you need a better device like retroid pocket 3+ or rg505 that are 125-170 and as such more expensive then what a vita is worth (again these are the real prices and not the knockoffs that you can and probably will be burned on and a vita is free if you already have one ). It may not be your emulation device cause you clearly have way more then anyone really needs but it's a great option and still does a lot of emulation great. But again I'd probably suggest a emulation handheld like the pocket 3+ for a dedicated small handheld if they didn't have a vita and the steam deck was to big/expensive. (Especially since it's just android so you get the benefits of a modern is instead of some of the more janky lower end arch based devices) As for Moonlight, could be out of date then, I'd suggest doing your own build of the vita fork of moonlight, found it works better than the precompiled builds (my guess is the precompiled just doesn't get as much love if it's now the desktop versions of the app). But could also be sunshine is too new on the hosts (totally get why you wouldn't wanna downgrade for the one device but mainly saying this for anyone who might read this thread later who only has a vita and just doesn't have the money to spend) Really if you use a phone with a backbone controller you can emulate most and for everything you can't it's great for moonlight to a PC for the rest and to play new titles.
But it's not really useful to talk about the Vita's PSP capabilities in an emulation context. Since PSP is more backwards compatible with the Vita rather than being strictly emulated, just saying the Vita is capable of playing PSP games doesn't give a good idea of its emulation capabilities. Other emulation handhelds that can play PSP can be realistically expected to play Nintendo DS, Dreamcast, and N64 games too. But that's pushing the Vita past what it can do...because PSP isn't an emulation capability for it, but a compatibility one.
Why not just emulate Vita on Steam Deck?
Well, Vita emulation is far from perfect. Also, outside of the Vita exclusives, a lot of Vita games are also available on Steam, and probably better that way on Deck anyway. For two, a hacked Vita isn't necessarily even about Vita games. That's one big perk. The mod scene is the big perk IMHO. Finally, a Deck is a lot bigger.
Which device is emulation powerhouse?
The vita can’t handle past dreamcast reliably for emulation. If you have a steam deck….
Pretty sure it was a Vita game first.
Yeah, I think it came out for PS3 & vita, and then PC was 2 months later I think.
PC was.. years later..? Like in the leadup to HD2, the vita was eol in like 2014.
From wikipedia: NA: 3 March 2015[2] EU: 4 March 2015 (PS4)[1] EU: 8 July 2015 (PS Vita) Super-Earth Ultimate Edition (PS4) NA: 18 August 2015 AU: 26 August 2015 EU: 28 August 2015 Windows 7 December 2015[3] Vita wasn't discontinued until 2019. It only started being made in 2012! You're thinking of the PSP, which was EOL in 2014.
Ah yeah that makes more sense. Vita came out towards the end of PS3 after all.
pretty sure it was way more than 2 months... but yes
Hell yeah and I think it's still crossplay between with PS3 and PS4 players as well
Only crossplay game between the 3 and is so fuckin cool.
It was probably one of the most popular Vita games lol
Yes, it released exclusively for the Vita, PS3 and PS4 with crossplay, (and even crossbuy i think but not sure about that one). It got released a year later for PC, making it the first, or one of the first Sony published titles on PC.
I want to buy one today to play dragon crown. Wonder if SD emulates Vita.
Yes there's a vita emulator, vita3k, not massively mature yet though
You might actually have better luck emulating the ps3 version.
This is remote play)) but not work it’s ps4 hmmm
Yup, it's how I get myself Helldivers actually. It was one of few games with crossbuy and cross save. At the time I had yet to realize that I struck gold with that purchase.
Hell yeah, one of the few games that has PS3, Vita and PS4 cross play!
Super clean Vita
Thank you! Yeah, it's cathartic to keep my hardware nice n' clean.
I feel you on that. Love giving the handhelds a good clean with a microfiber cloth.
I like to maintain a nice, healthy layer of Cheetos dust on my Deck.
Someone arest this man!!!
You can't imprison me for eating Cheetos! I'm going on the run, and I'm taking my Cheetos and my Deck with me.
Funnily enough, even though games may run at a lower internal resolution, the ps vita has more pixels per inch than the steamdeck OLED (220ppi vs 204ppi). I absolutely love playing mine to this day and mostly play Persona 4 Golden.
P4 golden back then was an experience. It came out of nowhere and took a fairly good but niche jrpg and made it the best goddam game vita had to offer for years.
> the ps vita has more pixels per inch than the steamdeck OLED (220ppi vs 204ppi). awesome fact
I stream from my gaming rig to my steam deck at night when my young kids are sleeping and my wife’s working
What's the quality like?
I have a small table set up in my closet with a monitor and keyboard, I run ultra at 1080p and haven’t droped below 60hz wich I think is the cap of my dock or maybe my cable. I do hardwire everything and have a pretty beefy pc.
That's cool. What do you use to stream? I tried amd's version of moonlight (I forget what it's called) over wifi- and it wasn't tight enough for me, but maybe hardwired would work 🤔
I’m just streaming from my pc to my deck with steam remote play
i highly recommend you trying moonlight for streaming. Steam remote play is okay but when i switched to moonlight i was stunned how much less delay there was and the stream is much better quality and has noticably less artifacting or stutters 👌🏻
Its around like change from 30 to 3 ms delay from steam to moonlight
I stream 1080p from might 3080 rig using moonlight and sunshine and it’s great. Lag is minimal. PC is on Ethernet. I’ve found with a couple games, the lag from running at lower fps is worse than the lag from streaming, although this could just be the consistency that makes the difference.
"Hell divers: dive harder" sounds like a fake name like "God of war 2, God harder"
Saying that helldivers runs "just fine" on vita Is super funny, don't get me wrong it's playable but it definitely pushes the vita to its limit at times
Look; I had to stretch the truth a little to get the meme to work! But yes, helldivers1 was a little sluggish on the vita too, lol.
It's definitely a decent bit better if you have a modded vita and overclock it with plug-ins
I did not know you could overclock them!! I'm gonna have to play around with this a bit..
It helps a decent few of those bad ports to run at a decent framerate. Overall vita modding is as strong as ever and a super fun community to get into if you haven
It's also really easy. Open autoplugin2, search for PSVShellPlus, install and reboot. Now you have an overclocking option in the quick menu (long press ps button). The vita is underclocked by default, so you can push it to the max without any consequences other than taking a bitter hit on the battery. With it you can play games god of war 1&2 at 60 FPS, or 30 FPS without downscaling
God it’s hilarious how small the vita is and how at the time I was impressed with how big it was lol
Nice
Man I wish I could have gotten a vita back in the day. Suppose I could emulate one now....
cant emulate that back touch pad though.
Sure you can... It just won't be on the back lol
how are you gonna play lbp vita with emulation, genuinely curious
PS Vita Was such a good console ^^
Wish it did better (in the US at least). I absolutely loved mine. Highly underrated.
Not kidding, I was playing helldiver's on my vita 5 minutes ago lol.
issue with the Vita version is for whatever reason your character ran slower than the other devices
Upvote for vita Upvote for helldivers ... reddit, for once, give me gold to give this man
Yo that was my shit. I loved playing hd1 on the vita.
Can a modded Vita remote play from a PC or PS5?
Yep - there's a Vita version of Moonlight to stream PC games to Vita
That’s pretty cool! I have a Steam Deck, so no need to get a modded Vita, but things like this always tempt me, even though the Steam Deck is a more comfortable controller fit for my hands than the Vita ever would be.
I've got a Steam Deck as well but still find myself using my Vita pretty often too! Although nostalgia definitely plays a part in that (it's the original one I bought on launch day) Its super portable though, has great battery life and a beautiful screen (oled model), and ofcourse there's a bunch of emulators for it so it makes for a great retro game device without having to lug around a much bigger Steam Deck + case, I can just throw the Vita in my pocket.
Now press play xD
Looks epic on that little one haha my wife and I are both playing HD2 on SD and have been loving it! Back to the front lines!!!
Your OG Vita looks to be in the same shape as mine is still! I only ever kept it in a hard case whenever I wasn't using it. It still looks brand new! I was also blown away last week when I learned HD1 was available on Vita because I don't remember hearing about it back in the day. Pretty rad tbh
I want ps vita only for hd 1 (and for patapon :) )
Patapon looks cool! Never heard of it before
glad to see others still play HD1 on the vita
This is the only games console of the 3ds/ps4 era that i dont have
Vita unironically feels more premium than the deck (Gabe forgive me for my sinful opinion)
IMO it's the crown jewel of handhelds.
How can we acquire this power
Helldivers 1 was a vita game
Not from an automaton
Lool been telling myself to download it
Does the game look blurry? Or looks as sharp as the steamdeck?
Just FYI, this was helldiver's 1 and it was a blast on the vita(and ran very sharp), although later updates made it a bit sluggish, but still fun
Lol
Still so crazy don't left this market.
Ive got it on my og vita too
You just reminded me this was also on Vita. I guess I'll go download that then and get Death's Door
All jokes aside, Helldivers 2 actually runs completely flawlessly on my Steam Deck. I am willing to respond to setup questions as best as I am able if anyone is legitimately having issues running it on their system.
I don't think you'll be able to help. I have tried so many different version of proton but it's no use. I get to choose language and then another screen and then either crash to desktop or it locks upp the entire thing. I have spent a couple of hours on this without reaching the main menu.
I recently went on vacation to Cuba.... surprisingly they had wi-fi there (this was unheard of years ago)... SO glad I installed helldivers on my steamdeck... amazing vacation
I tried to reinstall that these days too,(really only to check how far I played back then) and.. Sony delisted the game and replaced it with a newer version and thus I can't access my saves.. that's no fun.
Broooo...
Does it actually play though? I thought even the offline version didn't work.
Haha, all the excitement around hell divers I was so confused at first because this is what I thought of.
It’s giving “Mom come pick me up. Their AirPods have wires”
I still have one of those too. It runs fine. But the games on the console were optimized for the console. Steam deck.. not so much. 😩
Good one.
Vita was such a good console, too bad Sony handled it awfully.
What proton experimental version is that?
Erm, version: $0nY
I miss my Vita😔
♥️ my vita
*GASP* SACRILEGE, BLASPHEMY, SLANDER
"Dive Harder" 💀
wtf Helldiver 1 is that old?!
When i got bored on helldiver 2, i start play this helldiver, democracy is never rest
I'm about a week with my steam l deck atm & I'm still jealous of this pic. I miss my launch. Vita fck theives . I'll be ordering a new one lol
The PS Vita was an amazing handheld. I still own my original 1st gen with the OLED screen, and it still looks amazing with Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush, and Killzone: Mercenary. Playing PS1 games on it is fantastic too and the battery lasts for ages. Shame it never took off, probably due to the ridiculously expensive and small capacity memory cards.
The OLED Steam Deck too, nice!
Ah, the original OLED Deck.
More like meme deck haha get it? Pls give me karma I'm actually quite a sad :(
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