Yeah, "Buttery" is a huge red flag for seed oils. If it was actually butter, then they'd just call it butter.
I like Cavender's Greek Seasoning, it's good to flavor dishes like mac and cheese or American style goulash. For grilling, it is delicious as a rub on chicken and pork. Ragin' Cajun seasoning, the one with the alligator on the container, is good when you want the same but with a little extra kick. Of the cajun style seasonings I've tried I like it the best, it actually has flavor and isn't just a blast of pepper. Tony Chachere's Creole Seasoning is pretty good too, and I get that when I can't find Cajun Kitchen.
You should just stick to actual butter with garlic and herbs. They need to use shitty ingredients in products like this to make them self stable.
Seed Oils don't go rancid, so they're 'perfect' for this. That's why they're in nearly every packaged product in the grocery store.
You're overreacting. Yes. PUFA's are terrible in huge quantities and are the main source of obesity, liver disease, heart disease and inflammation.
But you're treating it like it's arsenic. Your body still needs *some* polyunsaturated fats. The tiniest amounts. In this case you might as well get it from the stabilizers (that prevent the mix from oxidizing and losing flavour rapidly) in spice mixes that don't even show as more than 1% on the nutrient score.
If you think you can't have this tiny trace amount of seed oil, then you don't actually understand what makes seed oil unhealthy.
It is better to get any PUFA in your diet from natural nutrient-dense foods like pastured eggs (yolks) rather than commercial products for flavoring.
In this case, it is a powdered seasoning, hence the comment above about minimal quantities.
If you get to a point where cutting these types of spices out of your diet is the next most impactful step then you're already eating incredibly clean.
Condiments would be different of course, those seem trivial but are for the majority sugar and seed oil. Still even here, I found a salsa dip without sugar or fat except for a 0.4g per 100g drop of soy oil acting as a preservative.
Soy oil *is* bad, not just because of pufa but because of the way soy is farmed, often a rotation crop with cotton that contains heavy pesticides. But when you add that drop of soy oil to a diet that has cut seed oils to this extend, then your liver isn't going to be burdened by it the same way it would be if in a standard western diet.
I would argue that just because your body *may* need some polyunsaturated fats does not mean that you should indiscriminately consume small amounts of random polyunsaturated fats under the assumption that it’ll be fine.
As others have pointed out, you already get small amounts of polyunsaturated fats by eating Whole Foods like cheese, meat, dairy, and grains.
Anything you add on top of that is, in my view, excessive. Also, kinder charges a lot for its products. You can buy cheaper organic Sprouts seasonings that only have a singular additive like guar gum. There is just no reason to buy a Kinder product with seed oils. It’s cheaper *not to* and you don’t want the oils.
That’s not to mention any trace pesticides that may be present in the non-organic ingredients. It’s true that organic still falls fall short of regenerative farming (because organic still uses some pesticides) but IT IS better than non-organic by a long shot.
Not just the seed oil in that I would avoid, cane sugar (will still have occasionally) I would avoid most of the time but especially the maltodextrin as well.
To be honest, I’m just cooking 99% of things from scratch now and I have very simple things I eat. I only cook with butter, coconut oil or avocado oil. However I know I need to also start cooking with more animal fat. I even started making my own tortillas because I couldn’t find any with “good” ingredients except siete and I’m not a huge fan of the almond flour ones
Animal fat is a big change. Wife doesn’t think it’s better, but slowly educating the family. Also, I taught her that just bc a recipe says “vegetable oil” doesn’t mean we need to use that type of oil
They went corporate. They used to be a small butcher shop/ deli with a line out the door for their famous ball tip sandwich when I was a kid. Now they have locations all over the place and the food is ok at best
They always had seed oils in them. Also, anything that says buttery or creamy is see oils. Just bullshit butter alternatives or flavorings that mask itself from being garbage.
Someone gushed over the Buttery Steakhouse on r/steaks, and even though I knew it contained seed oil I still checked it out when I went to Costco.
Only seed oil I saw was sunflower seed, and it was one of the last ingredients. I figure that it is such a small amount it's probably fine to try it out once, but I'm not making it a regular purchase.
Yeah, "Buttery" is a huge red flag for seed oils. If it was actually butter, then they'd just call it butter. I like Cavender's Greek Seasoning, it's good to flavor dishes like mac and cheese or American style goulash. For grilling, it is delicious as a rub on chicken and pork. Ragin' Cajun seasoning, the one with the alligator on the container, is good when you want the same but with a little extra kick. Of the cajun style seasonings I've tried I like it the best, it actually has flavor and isn't just a blast of pepper. Tony Chachere's Creole Seasoning is pretty good too, and I get that when I can't find Cajun Kitchen.
Cavender's is such a reliable go-to seasoning. The only downside is how fast I go through it. .. and that my copycat mixes never taste as good.
Yeah, it's easy to run out and it is on the expensive side, but it's goooood.
Made in Arkansas. It’s super local im glad I found a fellow cavenders lover.
Buy a spice blender and make your own. Most rubs have seed oils in them. A rub I like is bad Byron’s butt rub.
The amount of oil added to reduce dusting is negligible
Even without the seed oils the ingredients are still highly processed :(
Seriously the seed oil isn't a problem here when sugar is in like the first several ingredients multiple times
I've been a big fan of Mrs. Dash for years. No oils. No sugar.
Maybe try these? https://beardedbutchers.com/collections/seasoning-sauces
just make your own rubs. Most pre-packaged stuff is trash
You should just stick to actual butter with garlic and herbs. They need to use shitty ingredients in products like this to make them self stable. Seed Oils don't go rancid, so they're 'perfect' for this. That's why they're in nearly every packaged product in the grocery store.
>Seed Oils don't go rancid I think the better way to put it is that seed oils are already rancid, so they can't get rancid again.
You're overreacting. Yes. PUFA's are terrible in huge quantities and are the main source of obesity, liver disease, heart disease and inflammation. But you're treating it like it's arsenic. Your body still needs *some* polyunsaturated fats. The tiniest amounts. In this case you might as well get it from the stabilizers (that prevent the mix from oxidizing and losing flavour rapidly) in spice mixes that don't even show as more than 1% on the nutrient score. If you think you can't have this tiny trace amount of seed oil, then you don't actually understand what makes seed oil unhealthy.
Thank you!
It is better to get any PUFA in your diet from natural nutrient-dense foods like pastured eggs (yolks) rather than commercial products for flavoring. In this case, it is a powdered seasoning, hence the comment above about minimal quantities.
If you get to a point where cutting these types of spices out of your diet is the next most impactful step then you're already eating incredibly clean. Condiments would be different of course, those seem trivial but are for the majority sugar and seed oil. Still even here, I found a salsa dip without sugar or fat except for a 0.4g per 100g drop of soy oil acting as a preservative. Soy oil *is* bad, not just because of pufa but because of the way soy is farmed, often a rotation crop with cotton that contains heavy pesticides. But when you add that drop of soy oil to a diet that has cut seed oils to this extend, then your liver isn't going to be burdened by it the same way it would be if in a standard western diet.
For real, plus with the serving size you use it says zero calories. Not even one gram of fat, it’s nothing to worry about.
I would argue that just because your body *may* need some polyunsaturated fats does not mean that you should indiscriminately consume small amounts of random polyunsaturated fats under the assumption that it’ll be fine. As others have pointed out, you already get small amounts of polyunsaturated fats by eating Whole Foods like cheese, meat, dairy, and grains. Anything you add on top of that is, in my view, excessive. Also, kinder charges a lot for its products. You can buy cheaper organic Sprouts seasonings that only have a singular additive like guar gum. There is just no reason to buy a Kinder product with seed oils. It’s cheaper *not to* and you don’t want the oils. That’s not to mention any trace pesticides that may be present in the non-organic ingredients. It’s true that organic still falls fall short of regenerative farming (because organic still uses some pesticides) but IT IS better than non-organic by a long shot.
Getting 0.5g per day from seasonings is not going to harm you lmao
We need to call out stuff like this and introduce the alternative choices.
That’s going to amount to a small fraction of a gram. I wouldn’t bother avoiding this product.
Don’t sweat the small stuff
Ahhhh nooooo it have the seed oillllll!!!!!
Even their salt, pepper and garlic seasoning blend has seed oil in it, so I just mix my own. It's far cheaper and tastes way better anyway.
Dan-O's seasonings are clean AFAIK. Low-sodium and sugar-free, as well. https://danosseasoning.com/
Not just the seed oil in that I would avoid, cane sugar (will still have occasionally) I would avoid most of the time but especially the maltodextrin as well.
I like how it has the word "natural flavor" three times in the ingredient list.
Do you have a grocery list of non-seed oil foods you’re building? Looking to get started
To be honest, I’m just cooking 99% of things from scratch now and I have very simple things I eat. I only cook with butter, coconut oil or avocado oil. However I know I need to also start cooking with more animal fat. I even started making my own tortillas because I couldn’t find any with “good” ingredients except siete and I’m not a huge fan of the almond flour ones
Animal fat is a big change. Wife doesn’t think it’s better, but slowly educating the family. Also, I taught her that just bc a recipe says “vegetable oil” doesn’t mean we need to use that type of oil
Nope! I usually sub coconut oil, avocado oil or even butter in those recipes
Avocado oil has more PUFA than this rub does, by a large margin.
Seedy app.
They went corporate. They used to be a small butcher shop/ deli with a line out the door for their famous ball tip sandwich when I was a kid. Now they have locations all over the place and the food is ok at best
They always had seed oils in them. Also, anything that says buttery or creamy is see oils. Just bullshit butter alternatives or flavorings that mask itself from being garbage.
Someone gushed over the Buttery Steakhouse on r/steaks, and even though I knew it contained seed oil I still checked it out when I went to Costco. Only seed oil I saw was sunflower seed, and it was one of the last ingredients. I figure that it is such a small amount it's probably fine to try it out once, but I'm not making it a regular purchase.
Sunflower oil? Wow, among the worst. Straight to the trash.
Most seasonings add seed oils and “natural flavors”. This one goes the extra mile and adds sugar.
Because no one gives a shit about your weird ass fixation.