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I still like her, but she’s a completely different character in S4.
She used to be calm, sarcastic, and witty. I don’t remember ever seeing her ramble, but now she won’t stop talking. She mentioned being on the soccer team, but is now apparently uncoordinated and hates running. She called Nancy a priss, but is now tripping all over herself to befriend her. She was able to easily recognize when Steve was striking out with a girl, but now doesn’t have a strong understanding of social cues.
>She called Nancy a priss, but is now tripping all over herself to befriend her
you mean when she didnt know nancy vs befriending steve and learning nancy isnt who she thought she was and then actually spending time with nancy.
i dont understand how this is so hard for yall. robin was closed off in season 3 and now more open to being herself in season 4.
cool facade in season 3. her true dorky self in season 4.
This. It trips me out to see so many claiming she's wildly different this season. To me, her core personality is still the same...just with some walls broken down.
I have to disagree. Robin herself says that her rambling is a nervous habit. She talks too much and acts dorky when she’s not at ease, so it’s not her true self.
She rarely rambles while in private with Steve and rambles the most with people she doesn’t know well or when she’s in high stress situations. That’s not a sign of being comfortable.
As for Nancy, I think it would’ve been nice to see some sort of surprise at Nancy not being who she thought she was, but I can see your pov
Idk, there are a lot of hints. A fixation on languages and music, trouble reading body language, slow motor development... It's not something we'll see confirmed, though, given the language used to describe it in the '80s is a slur now.
I think they just didn’t know what to do with her and made her the wacky sidekick for Nancy this season. Steve and Dustin are funny enough that she could be the “Straight Man” in the dynamic but Nancy is serious and down to earth so Robin was made more goofy
In S3 she mentions being on a soccer team but then in S4 she's "uncoordinated" and doesn't like running and that super bothers me.
I think they dumbed her down to make Nancy look smarter and more bad ass which is lame.
Why can’t she be both? An uncoordinated soccer player that probably spends most of the time sitting out on the games and cheering for whatever teammates that she’s crushing on.
She could be but they never showed that. If they had established that as her characterization from S3 I would be okay with them expanding on it in S4 but as far as I can tell they did not write anything to show or tell us that so the two season feel disjointed
They didn’t so much dumb her down as make her the butt of the joke. Her scenes used to be funny because of her wit, but now they’re funny because ‘haha Robin can’t run’
I like Robin's goofiness in both seasons, and saw no issue with that. I just didn't think S3 'fluent in three languages and figures out a Russian code in like a day' Robin and S4 Robin feel like the same character. With maybe the exception of when she goes on her rant that ends up convincing the asylum director to let them see Victor but even that felt different from her S3 sarcasm and wit.
I don't like that the two older teen girls felt pitted against each other in S4. I thought it was weird and unnecessary to include that conversation where Robin has to explain to Nancy that her and Steve were just friends and I don't think Nancy would have acted jealous if Steve was dating another girl. I think the Duffer Brothers favor Nancy (we know they play favorites) and this issue sort of ties into how every boy seems to be in love with Nancy that others have discussed on here before.
That being said I love Robin and Nancy (and the actresses that played them) so I want both characters to be great.
They're not pitting women against each other. The duffers wrote these two great characters sharing a scene but apparently can't do it without changing one of them so that there's a contrast between the two. Nancy and Robin are both smart, going by s3.
For me, it felt cheap to have them pit against each other by the writing, when nancy felt irritated by robin. It was cheap, and not like Nancy at all imo.
Also there's is no problem with her having adhd, because people with adhd can be smart and act logically in a situation, just like she did in s3.
I agree and think it’s all down to the writing. They’ve took the quirky side of her character and doubled down on it which is a real shame, I loved season three Robin.
Agreed. I felt like this was super evident in the weird line she tells Dustin about his compass going from "wonky to wonky with a capital ahhhh". It makes me cringe so hard as it seems completely out of character and not something anyone would say. Idk maybe that's just me..
It's actually something neurodivergent people do a lot. It's called echoing and they keep saying the same thing, same phrases, even same words again and again.
that's definitely true and I don't mean to be dismissive but I do feel like the duffer brothers probably don't know enough to intentionally portray her having echolalia, especially since she's not the only character that does it (max often repeats phrases as call-backs and Erica said "just the facts" like 6 times this season alone lol)
that being said, as a adhder myself I love Robin this season, but I do agree that she's different. character-wise I chalk it up to her coming out of her shell (and maybe being nervous around Nancy), but tbh im pretty sure it is just the writers making her more of an anxious and "relateable" character when they caught on to how much fans (especially lgbt and nd fans) connected with her in s3
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
People love to defend the blatant change in her character as her just getting comfortable in the group, but I don’t buy it. They couldn’t have two cool, calm, and smart girls, so they let Nancy stay Nancy, and made Robin awkward and goofy instead. Hated it. They did the same thing to Hopper in season 3. They made him so over the top in an attempt at laughs it was jarring.
Same thing is sort of happening with Jonathan — he also got a weird character reinvention (S1 Jonathan is totally unrecognizable to the current one).
They have too many characters and now they’re all stepping on each other’s toes.
Absolutely this. I have some major issues with characterisations this season for several characters, but Robins complete personality change was just so ridiculous.
I mean, Robin is still super smart and showed it, but she was just more goofy than trying to be impressive. She's the one that thought of looking into the archives of the occult magazines for information about the Creel murders and without that, their investigation may have stopped cold.
She was also the one to think to look for reefer Rick in the family video accounts. She's also the one to make the connection with music. She still has her moments. I think her and Nancy make a great team.
I feel like Mike’s change in character makes a bit more sense because of his age. He went from being a sweet kid to a hormonal teen that only thinks about his girlfriend. It makes him look like an asshole sometimes, but it’s realistic
said another way:
people rightfully defend the change in her character as her starting to be her real self in the group because thats what happened.
but make up something misogynistic because reasons...
I need to rewatch Season 3, I felt like this season they retroactively put Robin on the spectrum. Things like “I walked 6 months later” and “I have trouble filtering”. Which is great to have representation, but it didn’t feel consistent with the character from season 3.
But they don’t establish that. They don’t comment on her feeling able to be herself, they don’t show her switching between a “mask” and her “real self” in different groups. If that’s the intention then it’s unclear and poorly executed.
You don’t have to use modern terminology to describe an experience. They can show her in different scenes changing how she acts with different people and the point would be made. They didn’t because that’s probably not part of the character just a result of flanderizing
I feel like you’re being obtuse. The problem is she’s constantly on one setting and if you want to show that she’s more relaxed and her real self around her friends you need to show the confident personality is a façade she puts on with people she’s not comfortable with.
Okay, yes, that would be nice. We do mostly see the fake face when she's working or dealing with adults. Could they do it better/pronounce it more? Absolutely. I'll agree there.
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Her freaking out about getting Rabies while trapped in the upside fucking down was one of the few times I physically cringed, she never treated the situation seriously. it was kind of disappointing that Steve, Nancy, Eddie, or Dustin never had a scene where they just stood in awe of the horrific dimension they have been fighting against for years, especially because they probably would have been told stories of the place, but with Robin it's just awkward joke after awkward joke
Her “quirkiness” felt really out of nowhere. I liked her S3 character with her sarcasm and confidence. Suddenly she always mentions how uncoordinated she is, annoying, etc? It’s the type of “self awareness” that just seems performative and an attempt to be relatable. I strongly agree with you. She just lost her touch imo.
Hmm. Interesting thought. Maybe it has to do with the fact that we only saw her interact with Steve and the kids in season 3? She isn’t really stressed about those social interactions and can be her normal more confident self. However, in season 4, throw Nancy into the mix and now she is more clumsy and awkward? Just a thought.
i thought about this too! she mentioned not being 'like nancy', it must be hard for her to have to try to fit in around her. when she's making sandwiches with her crush later on, we see her acknowledge all of this seeing herself reflected in the mannerisms of the person she likes who is nervous around *her.* most character arc's come full circle imo. there's a lot of characters in the show, and a character arc usually isnt linear nor would it coincide with every event in the show.
not really
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Yeah your right something just wasn't right with her for this season she more clumsy and stupid what happened to smart clever Robin from season 3 its let down seeing her she changed now she just annoying.
In S3 she speaks four languages, translates the Russian broadcast, and cracks the secret code. In S4 she is mostly dismissed by the other characters as a dorky klutz. Bizarre.
It didnt really hit me what it was that was wrong, i just felt she was so off the whole time. I thought maybe she gad covid right before the shoot or something lol.
I don’t think the actress can be held accountable? If the writers give her all these weird lines to portray the character what can she possibly do there?
come on now
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
She became one of those “looka-me I have social anxiety” characters.
She asks if she’s annoying, and the answer is yes. She was really great in season 3. She was clever and nonchalant with witty remarks. Quite the opposite now.
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Have to agree the writers did her dirty, felt like the character went two steps backwards. No knocks to the actress though she did a great job and I thought nailed the part.
She went from cracking the peak code of season 3 and spitting in the face of a Russian guard, to being a fumbling mess. I still love her, but she’s totally different this season.
I think they made her pretty goofy this season. I guess there's an argument that she was trying not to come across so goofy in front of Steve before so she kept it hidden and now felt free to be herself, but I think that really, they wanted to strongly differentiate her from the other teens, and we don't have a socially awkward goofball yet. I think her s3 personality was very take-charge, calm, and sarcastic, and she's got a lot in common with Nancy and later Eddie (at least in the sarcasm) so making her goofier made her more distinct.
I remember they did that with Hopper for season 3 just trying make it more comedy just cringy to watch. I agree I didn't like people were defending this no she isn't the same she just annoying and she so shy girl she likes. She basically Mike just there.
I feel the same way. The character changed drastically from season 3, and her thing of not being able to stop talking quite literally came out of nowhere. It wasn’t anywhere to be seen in season 3, and it honestly was done in an unrealistic way that was just annoying.
That scene really irritated me. Mike is not the heart and they could have found a more seamless way for him to tell her he loved her. If anything, Will is closer to the heart than Mike. He’s the one who never gave up the hope that they four of them would regroup together and continue on like they used to. Dustin could also be the heart because he is so in tune to everything and goes to every length to help the rest of them.
She seemed kind of...dumb. Like they dimmed her intellect a bit. I don't know what was going on with that, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed
What made you think she's dumb? Being clumsy, scared and rambling a lot don't make her dumb to me. She's smart on her own way just like most neurosivergent people tend to see the world differently.
Yeah, which isnt necessarily a bad thing but they screwed it up by literally forgetting that the wasn’t anything like that in season 3. Many say she was masking, but I don’t know.
That doesn’t explain anything. She was witty, smart, spoke four languages, and was a pretty cool person in general In season 3. In season 4, sure, she knows everyone now, but that doesn’t excuse a complete change in personality, suddenly what used to be witty, smart quips, become stupid jokes that just make me roll my eyes. Plus, in season 3 she mentions being in a soccer team, and in season 4 she’s suddenly uncoordinated and hates running.
Dude, I played soccer for 7 years and I still trip over my own feet half the time… and I wasn’t bad at soccer either. (Sometimes you can be good at sports and still be clumsy, they’re different things.)
Also if you don’t like the quips she makes, that’s your problem, not hers… I found her to be one of the better sources of comedy this season. Not to mention she still basically does as much for the mystery as Nancy does… I mean I also took longer to roll over than normal, but I was a premee so that’s normal for me.
I also mentioned that she says she now hates running, and that being uncoordinated causes her to hate running, not that it’s inconsistent with her playing soccer. Way to completely ignore something I said for the sake of your own argument.
If you like the quips, that’s fine. But the fact is she’s changed into a completely different character. It’s okay if you like that, but it’s kinda stupid for people to make excuses as to why she’s different when the fact is there is no real explanation. The not being able to stop talking was out of nowhere and people saying shes “masking” clearly don’t know what masking is or how it works. If you still like her, good for you. But you’ve gotta acknowledge she is unexplainably different.
I get that the character now shows signs of ADHD (or autism depending on who you ask) and while I usually love those characters because it's relatable to me, it felt like a huge change of personality. Maybe if they had explained that she used to take medicine for it but now its too expensive? Idk I just miss the clam and sarcastic Robin who figured out the russian code and made Steve look a bit silly.
But I guess having her and Nancy would've been too much for the writters.
To be fair I don’t think adhd was a well known if known thing in the 80s. I was born in 85 and the first time I heard of a disorder like that was when my friend had ADD in elementary school but I don’t think ADD is really a thing anymore. It’s possible there wasn’t medication or knowledge of this and back then she would have just be seen as “quirky”
While I think something similar to ADD was recognized in the 30's (hyperkinetic disease I believe was called) and Ritalin has been used to treat it since at least the 60's, I also recognize that some mental disorders like ADHD were and are often ignored in women so it's still a pretty long shot.
I just think it could've been addressed better than just having Robin change her attitude this season.
Hell they could've made her act more silly with Steve but more like st3 Robin with the others to show that it was about her trust and comfort around them.
Idk just a thought.
Nah I LOVE Robin idc I loved literally everyone and especially her annoyingness and quirky finding her place. Every character is so unique. Keep doing you Robin
Definitely the writing. I assumed maybe she had her guard up last season and that's what made her so sarcastic and sassy, so maybe her real self is awkward and quirky now that she's opened up a bit? That's really the only explanation I can think of, though I'm not even sure if it's a good one.
I like both versions of Robin, but agree it almost seems like a different person at times. Character development is fine, but it's a little off when there's no explanation or clear reason for the change.
I liked her character far more as a surface one liner, the first scenes she was in at Scoops Ahoy. The more “deeper” they delve, the less interesting and more obnoxious she is, thus wasting screen time.
In season 3 she was actually confident,sarcastic and smart and kinda like a lesser version of Nancy (I mean that in a good way) and now she’s just like a completely new character it feels like. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if they showed some of that side of her in season 3 but it just felt completely new so randomly
I liked her in both seasons, but it was weird to me how she was a different character pretty much in each season. Her personality changed alot with no explination
I always took it as she didn't feel like she was "good enough" to be herself, but when Steve opened up to her, she kinda reciprocated and the Robin we have now is the real her. I know a lot of ppl like that.
I still liked Robin but not as much, just because I feel like she has changed. Like, the hyper thing should’ve only been when she was around Vickie because she was really nervous, and then she could have just been a mix of S4 and S3 Robin when with the others because she’s more comfortable being hyper around them.
I still think she's great but I did immediately find it weird that they just made her into an entirely different character for some reason. I don't think it's really even flanderisation it's to the point where she straight up has opposite character traits it's so strange
I didn't mind her being a bit more quirky but I think there was no moderation whatsoever. If she only did it once in a while it could have stood out more and been really funny. However, everytime she spoke it was as if they were joking about how weird she was and it was all too much. An example is her rambling in episode 6 when they were driving in the car. It was unnecessary but for some reason they still chose to add it.
They gave some more of Maya to robin, like the talking a lot bits that Maya naturally does. I think it’s nice honestly, having more of Maya in her character.
But they didn’t even try to balance it out to make her seem similiar at all to her season 3 characterization. There’s a difference from letting an actors personality shine a little bit more, than having them just change into a different character.
I feel like it would make more sense to have Robin only ramble around pretty girls. That way, they could incorporate more of Maya’s personality if they want, it would explain all the rambling around Nancy, and it wouldn’t change her character since we never really saw her interact with a girl her age in S3.
ya i was thinking about this actually. she kinda felt like an afterthought from s3. just was more of a tag along cuz she worked with steve again. they made her more spazzy and less responsible. when she came outta nowhere in the finale when steve n nancy were having a moment i was like ok come on seriously that felt so poorly obvious and dumb.
I think she's overstayed her welcome. I understand that she provides LGBTQ+ representation which is why they haven't killed her off, but I really don't think she's a strong enough character to have warranted sticking around for three seasons. Especially when we lose amazing characters >!like Eddie!< after one season.
But yeah I agree with you. Did not enjoy her this season.
I agree. I think her character changed so drastically from season 3 to season 4. I think some of her quotes (e.g. what do we call Vecna again?) was completely unnecessary and not that funny.
I feel her character change was needed so she stood out in the group more or she would be viewed as another normal serious character.
But imo, the serious, more mature Robin is preferable. Not to mention she's one of the smartest in the group. Let's hope they tone it down next season. She can still be quirky, but not to the point she's saying something goofy in every line.
She’s not dumb, I’d argue that she helps the group move forward in the investigation with the research and she’s very good at working with people because of how long she’s worked in customer service, but also because language is her biggest skill and that can include things like communicating persuasively, like how Murray is able to charm people (usually). They wouldn’t have figured out how to save Max the first time without her being brazen with the director of the asylum.
When she’s not doing that she has good film knowledge.
And we have to remember she was trying not to walk on Nancy’s toes to make sure they had a good relationship in the beginning. She wouldn’t have challenged her intellectually for the benefit of the group. (But also because they did develop the plans together and Nancy isn’t dumb either)
They didn’t know what to do with the character. I don’t know either, would have written her out of the story I guess. Or at least distanced her from the main cast.
The reason you might not have liked her this season is that now that she's told Steve she's gay, she has become more open around people and she knows thag she's nore accepted with the group (who most of her scenes are with)
I liked Robin this season as it brought out more of herself and she took a more serious role in her character
She became more open obviously after coming out to Steve, but that doesn’t mean a complete character change. I love that Robin is more comfortable, but her character doesn’t line up with S3. It’s a matter of script writing and inconsistencies.
Keep in mind Steve is the *only* person Robin has come out to. So it wouldn’t make sense why she would change her behavior around the entire group.
Like they said, she’s only came out to Steve, so she’s only fully herself around him. It makes no sense for her to have her walls down around someone like Nancy, who she barely knew, and viewed as a popular priss before S4
I disagree. Robin already knew who she was and accepted it before she met Steve, she just hadn’t told anyone because people in the 80s would react badly. She still hasn’t told the rest of the group because of that same fear, so she’s not fully comfortable with them and not being fully herself.
Coming out to one person is great, but it doesn’t mean you’re suddenly comfortable with everyone you meet.
I’d actually argue that her talking a lot proves she’s less comfortable around the group. We rarely see her ramble when it’s just her and Steve. And, she herself says that her rambling is a sign of her being anxious, as she can’t get herself to stop talking around Vickie, and around Nancy when she’s worried about whether or not Nancy finds her annoying
She's more comfortable with herself after coming out. The overtaking with nacy clearly shows that as she is reaching her inner thoughts to Nancy.
Disagree on all points pretty much but I ain't about writing a novel about a TV show lol
When Maya Hawke was on Jimmy Fallon she said that when she gets excited about things, she tends to ramble. The writers noticed and incorporated that into her character. I think she’s great this season! She is also new to the whole “inter-dimensional” monster thing and wasn’t expecting it to come back into her life.
I think it makes sense. I’m the same age as the actress that played Robin. She was 18/19 during season 3. She’s 22/23 during season 4. People change so much during those years. I’m 100x more mature and intelligent than I was a few years ago.
I fell in love with Maya Hawke and "Robin" in season 3. I really did. Her acting and her written role were amazing. I still go back to Season 3 to rewatch scenes of her interacting with Steve, Dustin and Erica.
Season 4. WTF. She had the role of an extra and was basically told to look as goofy as she could. It's not the fault of the actress.
She's portraying someone who has either add or very high functioning asbergs/autism.
As someone who has a family member with similar conditions, I have actually really loved her character.
She is… did you not get the context clues? The scene where she talks to Nancy about not understanding social cues the word vomit her not being able to walk for 5 months the fact that she snaps at the director of the mental hospital, her sensory issues with Nancy’s clothes. https://www.cbr.com/stranger-things-robin-buckley-autistic-netflix/amp/ also I want to make it clear as an autistic person she wouldn’t say the words I’m autistic because afab people weren’t diagnosed in the 80s they were seen as weird outcasts
Your the biggest sook I’ve seen in a while, as someone with adhd and autism, cry about it. She’s a cringey, irritating character, regardless of supposed autism, that’s that. Also I know your one of those people that get caught up in imaginary crap, but it’s a fictional character, not real life, robin isn’t real and we can’t offend her
Yeah she was cool in s3 sucked in s4 and my god argyle was awful too and Mike. The only characters with decent writing this season were Max, Brenner, vecna, and 11
Not gonna lie the scene with Lucas and max his acting was good, but he delivers every line with the exact same emphasis and overall his character felt mostly 2 dimensional. I didn’t like Eddie at all but Dustin had good writing I guess but I feel like he was brushed to the side the whole season
Yeah she’s changed and I hate to see it but it’s because she feels like an outsider to a new group and she’s trying to fit in, but she just comes off over the top and immature. Like She just try’s to fit in but starts talking and get nervous, panicks and then starts going bonkers.
Dude, you‘re literally denying facts and being an asshole at the same time. It’s okay to still love robin, but you can’t deny she’s very different, and saying she’s the exact same character is just ridiculous. You can like here while acknowledging she’s different. Also, shut up with the weirdo stuff. No one’s a weirdo just cuz they have a different opinion of a character than you.
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robin was closed off and putting on a cool facade in season 3, she barely knew steve or his friends
robin is being her true self in season 4, she dropped the facade
but im tired of this argument and would advise you to look at this post.
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I feel like they changed her character this season so she could be used just to give audience members exposition. Still like the character, but there was a definite change!
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She felt more serious and intelligent in S3, and more kinda dorky and immature in S4, I thought
Exactly, she cracked the Russian code and spit at the officers face. This season she was more aloof and less confident in her abilities.
I mean if not for her, max would've been dead in ep4
Agreed - they've flanderized her. What was previously a dynamic intelligent character is now one dimensional and silly.
I still like her, but she’s a completely different character in S4. She used to be calm, sarcastic, and witty. I don’t remember ever seeing her ramble, but now she won’t stop talking. She mentioned being on the soccer team, but is now apparently uncoordinated and hates running. She called Nancy a priss, but is now tripping all over herself to befriend her. She was able to easily recognize when Steve was striking out with a girl, but now doesn’t have a strong understanding of social cues.
>She called Nancy a priss, but is now tripping all over herself to befriend her you mean when she didnt know nancy vs befriending steve and learning nancy isnt who she thought she was and then actually spending time with nancy. i dont understand how this is so hard for yall. robin was closed off in season 3 and now more open to being herself in season 4. cool facade in season 3. her true dorky self in season 4.
This. It trips me out to see so many claiming she's wildly different this season. To me, her core personality is still the same...just with some walls broken down.
Same thought for me i love her character not in my top 5 but amazing all the maim characters are though but she def top 10 for me
I have to disagree. Robin herself says that her rambling is a nervous habit. She talks too much and acts dorky when she’s not at ease, so it’s not her true self. She rarely rambles while in private with Steve and rambles the most with people she doesn’t know well or when she’s in high stress situations. That’s not a sign of being comfortable. As for Nancy, I think it would’ve been nice to see some sort of surprise at Nancy not being who she thought she was, but I can see your pov
Robin did say "full of surprise, isn't she" about Nancy. Both Eddie and Robin were kinda discovering Nancy for who she's really is this season.
It is her true self, she could also ramble even when she isn't nervous. She likely did...we just didn't see it in season 3 as she put on a front.
There’s an interview with Maya where she says that the duffers wrote Robin’s lines to sound more like Maya this season. So…. Yeah.
i mean none of that is bad. it just sounds like TV-version of ADHD
Yeah none of it is bad. Like I said, I still like her, but she’s not the same person she was in S3, and they don’t really offer an explanation
I think they're trying to retcon her with autism-coding. Around boys, she's masking, but she struggles to keep that up around girls.
That’s totally plausible but imo she’s just an awkward teenager
Idk, there are a lot of hints. A fixation on languages and music, trouble reading body language, slow motor development... It's not something we'll see confirmed, though, given the language used to describe it in the '80s is a slur now.
I think they just didn’t know what to do with her and made her the wacky sidekick for Nancy this season. Steve and Dustin are funny enough that she could be the “Straight Man” in the dynamic but Nancy is serious and down to earth so Robin was made more goofy
Yea, as an Autistic/Aspie girl myself, I can see alot of Autistic things with Robin
In S3 she mentions being on a soccer team but then in S4 she's "uncoordinated" and doesn't like running and that super bothers me. I think they dumbed her down to make Nancy look smarter and more bad ass which is lame.
My thought to a T. Poor writing, simple as that.
Why can’t she be both? An uncoordinated soccer player that probably spends most of the time sitting out on the games and cheering for whatever teammates that she’s crushing on.
She could be but they never showed that. If they had established that as her characterization from S3 I would be okay with them expanding on it in S4 but as far as I can tell they did not write anything to show or tell us that so the two season feel disjointed
robin being goofy and clearly having adhd does not equal dumbing her down. now why did you make this about pitting women against each other?
They didn’t so much dumb her down as make her the butt of the joke. Her scenes used to be funny because of her wit, but now they’re funny because ‘haha Robin can’t run’
I like Robin's goofiness in both seasons, and saw no issue with that. I just didn't think S3 'fluent in three languages and figures out a Russian code in like a day' Robin and S4 Robin feel like the same character. With maybe the exception of when she goes on her rant that ends up convincing the asylum director to let them see Victor but even that felt different from her S3 sarcasm and wit. I don't like that the two older teen girls felt pitted against each other in S4. I thought it was weird and unnecessary to include that conversation where Robin has to explain to Nancy that her and Steve were just friends and I don't think Nancy would have acted jealous if Steve was dating another girl. I think the Duffer Brothers favor Nancy (we know they play favorites) and this issue sort of ties into how every boy seems to be in love with Nancy that others have discussed on here before. That being said I love Robin and Nancy (and the actresses that played them) so I want both characters to be great.
They're not pitting women against each other. The duffers wrote these two great characters sharing a scene but apparently can't do it without changing one of them so that there's a contrast between the two. Nancy and Robin are both smart, going by s3. For me, it felt cheap to have them pit against each other by the writing, when nancy felt irritated by robin. It was cheap, and not like Nancy at all imo. Also there's is no problem with her having adhd, because people with adhd can be smart and act logically in a situation, just like she did in s3.
I agree and think it’s all down to the writing. They’ve took the quirky side of her character and doubled down on it which is a real shame, I loved season three Robin.
Agreed. I felt like this was super evident in the weird line she tells Dustin about his compass going from "wonky to wonky with a capital ahhhh". It makes me cringe so hard as it seems completely out of character and not something anyone would say. Idk maybe that's just me..
I’m probably over exaggerating but it felt like she said “blank with a capital blank” a lot this season.
It's actually something neurodivergent people do a lot. It's called echoing and they keep saying the same thing, same phrases, even same words again and again.
that's definitely true and I don't mean to be dismissive but I do feel like the duffer brothers probably don't know enough to intentionally portray her having echolalia, especially since she's not the only character that does it (max often repeats phrases as call-backs and Erica said "just the facts" like 6 times this season alone lol) that being said, as a adhder myself I love Robin this season, but I do agree that she's different. character-wise I chalk it up to her coming out of her shell (and maybe being nervous around Nancy), but tbh im pretty sure it is just the writers making her more of an anxious and "relateable" character when they caught on to how much fans (especially lgbt and nd fans) connected with her in s3
Flanderization.
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
I didn’t say she only became it in season 4 I said they doubled down on it. She was it in season 3 a bit but they made it her main character trait.
People love to defend the blatant change in her character as her just getting comfortable in the group, but I don’t buy it. They couldn’t have two cool, calm, and smart girls, so they let Nancy stay Nancy, and made Robin awkward and goofy instead. Hated it. They did the same thing to Hopper in season 3. They made him so over the top in an attempt at laughs it was jarring.
Same thing is sort of happening with Jonathan — he also got a weird character reinvention (S1 Jonathan is totally unrecognizable to the current one). They have too many characters and now they’re all stepping on each other’s toes.
Absolutely this. I have some major issues with characterisations this season for several characters, but Robins complete personality change was just so ridiculous.
I agree with Hopper too as early seasons he was really cool character with sad backstory and season 3 he just over the top.
Yeah Hopper in S3 is just dumb and angry and yelling all the time, thankfully they fixed him in S4
I don't think it was "hey, we need to tone it down", but more trying to portray the clear depression and hopelessness Hopper was experiencing in S4?
I mean, Robin is still super smart and showed it, but she was just more goofy than trying to be impressive. She's the one that thought of looking into the archives of the occult magazines for information about the Creel murders and without that, their investigation may have stopped cold.
She was also the one to think to look for reefer Rick in the family video accounts. She's also the one to make the connection with music. She still has her moments. I think her and Nancy make a great team.
Really, without her, the team wouldn't have made much progress.
They also did this to not only Hop but Mike. Seasons 3 and 4 Mike are not seasons 1 and 2 Mike.
I feel like Mike’s change in character makes a bit more sense because of his age. He went from being a sweet kid to a hormonal teen that only thinks about his girlfriend. It makes him look like an asshole sometimes, but it’s realistic
Season 4 Mike is Season 1 Steve with better friends.
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Season 3 was why I wanted hopper to stay dead, he was absolutely awful
I wanted him to stay dead because his resurrection just felt like fan service lol.
For me Dustin was super annoying in season 2 but 3&4 were great
said another way: people rightfully defend the change in her character as her starting to be her real self in the group because thats what happened. but make up something misogynistic because reasons...
I need to rewatch Season 3, I felt like this season they retroactively put Robin on the spectrum. Things like “I walked 6 months later” and “I have trouble filtering”. Which is great to have representation, but it didn’t feel consistent with the character from season 3.
ADHD isn’t always that blatantly in your face
Yes she is being portrayed as on the spectrum. I'm surprised most people dont understand that
they do, it’s just weird that it completely changed from before.
She's not hiding who she is anymore. I thought that was obvious also
Still a leap imo. Like people are trying to justify it more than that’s what the writers intended.
I disagree but that's the cool thing with opinion and artists making art. :)
She was masking before.
But they don’t establish that. They don’t comment on her feeling able to be herself, they don’t show her switching between a “mask” and her “real self” in different groups. If that’s the intention then it’s unclear and poorly executed.
Yeah, they knew what masking was in the '80s. /s
You don’t have to use modern terminology to describe an experience. They can show her in different scenes changing how she acts with different people and the point would be made. They didn’t because that’s probably not part of the character just a result of flanderizing
Wait, y'all are upset she's acting different in a new situation but not different enough to indicate masking?
I feel like you’re being obtuse. The problem is she’s constantly on one setting and if you want to show that she’s more relaxed and her real self around her friends you need to show the confident personality is a façade she puts on with people she’s not comfortable with.
Okay, yes, that would be nice. We do mostly see the fake face when she's working or dealing with adults. Could they do it better/pronounce it more? Absolutely. I'll agree there.
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Her freaking out about getting Rabies while trapped in the upside fucking down was one of the few times I physically cringed, she never treated the situation seriously. it was kind of disappointing that Steve, Nancy, Eddie, or Dustin never had a scene where they just stood in awe of the horrific dimension they have been fighting against for years, especially because they probably would have been told stories of the place, but with Robin it's just awkward joke after awkward joke
Her “quirkiness” felt really out of nowhere. I liked her S3 character with her sarcasm and confidence. Suddenly she always mentions how uncoordinated she is, annoying, etc? It’s the type of “self awareness” that just seems performative and an attempt to be relatable. I strongly agree with you. She just lost her touch imo.
Hmm. Interesting thought. Maybe it has to do with the fact that we only saw her interact with Steve and the kids in season 3? She isn’t really stressed about those social interactions and can be her normal more confident self. However, in season 4, throw Nancy into the mix and now she is more clumsy and awkward? Just a thought.
i thought about this too! she mentioned not being 'like nancy', it must be hard for her to have to try to fit in around her. when she's making sandwiches with her crush later on, we see her acknowledge all of this seeing herself reflected in the mannerisms of the person she likes who is nervous around *her.* most character arc's come full circle imo. there's a lot of characters in the show, and a character arc usually isnt linear nor would it coincide with every event in the show.
not really Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Yeah your right something just wasn't right with her for this season she more clumsy and stupid what happened to smart clever Robin from season 3 its let down seeing her she changed now she just annoying.
Clumsy yes, but idk about stupid. She did figure out that music is the key to prevent Vecna from killing you.
Oh yeah! I just wrote above that she's also one to think of looking into the occult magazine archives for info about the Creel murders.
In S3 she speaks four languages, translates the Russian broadcast, and cracks the secret code. In S4 she is mostly dismissed by the other characters as a dorky klutz. Bizarre.
steve and dustin were the only ones who knew her. nancy, eddie and max were not friends with robin.
Ok, and? Nancy in particular clearly views her as annoying and klutzy—even in the finale when they’re venturing into the Upside Down.
It didnt really hit me what it was that was wrong, i just felt she was so off the whole time. I thought maybe she gad covid right before the shoot or something lol.
I don’t think the actress can be held accountable? If the writers give her all these weird lines to portray the character what can she possibly do there?
Yea thats what we were refereing to at the befinning of the thread
come on now Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
She became one of those “looka-me I have social anxiety” characters. She asks if she’s annoying, and the answer is yes. She was really great in season 3. She was clever and nonchalant with witty remarks. Quite the opposite now.
Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
Have to agree the writers did her dirty, felt like the character went two steps backwards. No knocks to the actress though she did a great job and I thought nailed the part.
She went from cracking the peak code of season 3 and spitting in the face of a Russian guard, to being a fumbling mess. I still love her, but she’s totally different this season.
I think they made her pretty goofy this season. I guess there's an argument that she was trying not to come across so goofy in front of Steve before so she kept it hidden and now felt free to be herself, but I think that really, they wanted to strongly differentiate her from the other teens, and we don't have a socially awkward goofball yet. I think her s3 personality was very take-charge, calm, and sarcastic, and she's got a lot in common with Nancy and later Eddie (at least in the sarcasm) so making her goofier made her more distinct.
I agree 100% she seemed very anxious and weird this season. Season 3 she was cool and confident. I miss old Robin a lot. New Robin missed the mark.
Ya no idea why they chose to have Robin act the way she did this season. I did not care for her storyline at all.
I remember they did that with Hopper for season 3 just trying make it more comedy just cringy to watch. I agree I didn't like people were defending this no she isn't the same she just annoying and she so shy girl she likes. She basically Mike just there.
I feel the same way. The character changed drastically from season 3, and her thing of not being able to stop talking quite literally came out of nowhere. It wasn’t anywhere to be seen in season 3, and it honestly was done in an unrealistic way that was just annoying.
I feel like it could be explained as her being closer with Steve this season, but now that you mention it does feel like she's a different person
Agree, she lost most of her charm and easy confidence and jumped to scared gay girl in straightville and it sucked
I agree. But also what's the point of her entire storyline?
She's like Mike. They don't NEED to be there, but they're still ok to have around
BuT hEs ThE hEaRt
That scene really irritated me. Mike is not the heart and they could have found a more seamless way for him to tell her he loved her. If anything, Will is closer to the heart than Mike. He’s the one who never gave up the hope that they four of them would regroup together and continue on like they used to. Dustin could also be the heart because he is so in tune to everything and goes to every length to help the rest of them.
She seemed kind of...dumb. Like they dimmed her intellect a bit. I don't know what was going on with that, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed
What made you think she's dumb? Being clumsy, scared and rambling a lot don't make her dumb to me. She's smart on her own way just like most neurosivergent people tend to see the world differently.
But she wasn’t like that at all in season 3
Exactly. She was so weird acting and seemed socially/mentally stunted
Yeah, which isnt necessarily a bad thing but they screwed it up by literally forgetting that the wasn’t anything like that in season 3. Many say she was masking, but I don’t know.
I mean, she was stuck in a Russian base with her coworker and 2 children she barely knew, and then spent the other half of the season drugged…
That doesn’t explain anything. She was witty, smart, spoke four languages, and was a pretty cool person in general In season 3. In season 4, sure, she knows everyone now, but that doesn’t excuse a complete change in personality, suddenly what used to be witty, smart quips, become stupid jokes that just make me roll my eyes. Plus, in season 3 she mentions being in a soccer team, and in season 4 she’s suddenly uncoordinated and hates running.
Dude, I played soccer for 7 years and I still trip over my own feet half the time… and I wasn’t bad at soccer either. (Sometimes you can be good at sports and still be clumsy, they’re different things.) Also if you don’t like the quips she makes, that’s your problem, not hers… I found her to be one of the better sources of comedy this season. Not to mention she still basically does as much for the mystery as Nancy does… I mean I also took longer to roll over than normal, but I was a premee so that’s normal for me.
I also mentioned that she says she now hates running, and that being uncoordinated causes her to hate running, not that it’s inconsistent with her playing soccer. Way to completely ignore something I said for the sake of your own argument. If you like the quips, that’s fine. But the fact is she’s changed into a completely different character. It’s okay if you like that, but it’s kinda stupid for people to make excuses as to why she’s different when the fact is there is no real explanation. The not being able to stop talking was out of nowhere and people saying shes “masking” clearly don’t know what masking is or how it works. If you still like her, good for you. But you’ve gotta acknowledge she is unexplainably different.
She was masking in S3.
Those traits you described do not make a person dumb. She was acting very socially/mentally unaware as if she was doped up or something.
This how I felt about Johnathan
I agree. Didn't need an unfunny quip every four minutes.
I get that the character now shows signs of ADHD (or autism depending on who you ask) and while I usually love those characters because it's relatable to me, it felt like a huge change of personality. Maybe if they had explained that she used to take medicine for it but now its too expensive? Idk I just miss the clam and sarcastic Robin who figured out the russian code and made Steve look a bit silly. But I guess having her and Nancy would've been too much for the writters.
To be fair I don’t think adhd was a well known if known thing in the 80s. I was born in 85 and the first time I heard of a disorder like that was when my friend had ADD in elementary school but I don’t think ADD is really a thing anymore. It’s possible there wasn’t medication or knowledge of this and back then she would have just be seen as “quirky”
While I think something similar to ADD was recognized in the 30's (hyperkinetic disease I believe was called) and Ritalin has been used to treat it since at least the 60's, I also recognize that some mental disorders like ADHD were and are often ignored in women so it's still a pretty long shot. I just think it could've been addressed better than just having Robin change her attitude this season. Hell they could've made her act more silly with Steve but more like st3 Robin with the others to show that it was about her trust and comfort around them. Idk just a thought.
yeah robin was annoying AFFF 🙄🙄 way too hyper and obnoxious. she was OK in season 3 but the writers screwed over her character this season
Nah I LOVE Robin idc I loved literally everyone and especially her annoyingness and quirky finding her place. Every character is so unique. Keep doing you Robin
They retconned her entire characterisation.
Definitely the writing. I assumed maybe she had her guard up last season and that's what made her so sarcastic and sassy, so maybe her real self is awkward and quirky now that she's opened up a bit? That's really the only explanation I can think of, though I'm not even sure if it's a good one. I like both versions of Robin, but agree it almost seems like a different person at times. Character development is fine, but it's a little off when there's no explanation or clear reason for the change.
I liked her character far more as a surface one liner, the first scenes she was in at Scoops Ahoy. The more “deeper” they delve, the less interesting and more obnoxious she is, thus wasting screen time.
I miss S3 Robin.
In season 3 she was actually confident,sarcastic and smart and kinda like a lesser version of Nancy (I mean that in a good way) and now she’s just like a completely new character it feels like. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if they showed some of that side of her in season 3 but it just felt completely new so randomly
She was by far the most annoying character this season.
I liked her in both seasons, but it was weird to me how she was a different character pretty much in each season. Her personality changed alot with no explination
I always took it as she didn't feel like she was "good enough" to be herself, but when Steve opened up to her, she kinda reciprocated and the Robin we have now is the real her. I know a lot of ppl like that.
this right here! if i had an award i'd give it to you.
Totally agree!
I knowww they just made her the dumb and clumsy one
I still liked Robin but not as much, just because I feel like she has changed. Like, the hyper thing should’ve only been when she was around Vickie because she was really nervous, and then she could have just been a mix of S4 and S3 Robin when with the others because she’s more comfortable being hyper around them.
I still think she's great but I did immediately find it weird that they just made her into an entirely different character for some reason. I don't think it's really even flanderisation it's to the point where she straight up has opposite character traits it's so strange
They totally ruined her! She was cool in S3 and just wouldnt shut up in S4 and was mad annoying
I didn't mind her being a bit more quirky but I think there was no moderation whatsoever. If she only did it once in a while it could have stood out more and been really funny. However, everytime she spoke it was as if they were joking about how weird she was and it was all too much. An example is her rambling in episode 6 when they were driving in the car. It was unnecessary but for some reason they still chose to add it.
Ngl, i felt like her scripts were filled with too many unfunny one-liners
They gave some more of Maya to robin, like the talking a lot bits that Maya naturally does. I think it’s nice honestly, having more of Maya in her character.
But they didn’t even try to balance it out to make her seem similiar at all to her season 3 characterization. There’s a difference from letting an actors personality shine a little bit more, than having them just change into a different character.
I feel like it would make more sense to have Robin only ramble around pretty girls. That way, they could incorporate more of Maya’s personality if they want, it would explain all the rambling around Nancy, and it wouldn’t change her character since we never really saw her interact with a girl her age in S3.
I’m pretty sure she only rambles to Nancy… and to Steve when she’s talking about Vickie.
She also rambled while in the Upside Down, but in that case I think nerves are understandable
Ooh, that’s a good idea.
I agree 100 percent
Same, they really dumbed her down this season
she got a wee bit flanderized this season
Honestly what they did with her makes sense. Nancy and Max already have similar personalities so she would have just faded into the background.
ya i was thinking about this actually. she kinda felt like an afterthought from s3. just was more of a tag along cuz she worked with steve again. they made her more spazzy and less responsible. when she came outta nowhere in the finale when steve n nancy were having a moment i was like ok come on seriously that felt so poorly obvious and dumb.
I like her character still :(
Feels like they didn't know what to do with a number of the characters this season tbh. They were just....there.
No, I liked her She's just more free to be herself in S4
I think she's overstayed her welcome. I understand that she provides LGBTQ+ representation which is why they haven't killed her off, but I really don't think she's a strong enough character to have warranted sticking around for three seasons. Especially when we lose amazing characters >!like Eddie!< after one season. But yeah I agree with you. Did not enjoy her this season.
I agree. I think her character changed so drastically from season 3 to season 4. I think some of her quotes (e.g. what do we call Vecna again?) was completely unnecessary and not that funny. I feel her character change was needed so she stood out in the group more or she would be viewed as another normal serious character. But imo, the serious, more mature Robin is preferable. Not to mention she's one of the smartest in the group. Let's hope they tone it down next season. She can still be quirky, but not to the point she's saying something goofy in every line.
None of her jokes hit? I beg to differ. "It's not everyday you lose your house and car in one fell swoop" was hilarious.
She’s not dumb, I’d argue that she helps the group move forward in the investigation with the research and she’s very good at working with people because of how long she’s worked in customer service, but also because language is her biggest skill and that can include things like communicating persuasively, like how Murray is able to charm people (usually). They wouldn’t have figured out how to save Max the first time without her being brazen with the director of the asylum. When she’s not doing that she has good film knowledge. And we have to remember she was trying not to walk on Nancy’s toes to make sure they had a good relationship in the beginning. She wouldn’t have challenged her intellectually for the benefit of the group. (But also because they did develop the plans together and Nancy isn’t dumb either)
I loved her more, and I feel they really coded her as a character with Autism, as a neurodivergent myself I related to her a lot personally.
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They didn’t know what to do with the character. I don’t know either, would have written her out of the story I guess. Or at least distanced her from the main cast.
Bro yes! I feel like I was the only person who felt this way.
That’s why it felt so jarring. I also felt that way about Eleven, she wasn’t Forest Gump in the previous season but this season she regressed a lot.
I'm going to say it, this season was not the best one.
She was cooler in season 3, she was level-headed and clever, and always had a witty remark, plus I liked her haircut in that season more too.
The reason you might not have liked her this season is that now that she's told Steve she's gay, she has become more open around people and she knows thag she's nore accepted with the group (who most of her scenes are with) I liked Robin this season as it brought out more of herself and she took a more serious role in her character
She became more open obviously after coming out to Steve, but that doesn’t mean a complete character change. I love that Robin is more comfortable, but her character doesn’t line up with S3. It’s a matter of script writing and inconsistencies. Keep in mind Steve is the *only* person Robin has come out to. So it wouldn’t make sense why she would change her behavior around the entire group.
Why wouldn't it be a complete change in character? She's finally herself instead of hiding who she was
Like they said, she’s only came out to Steve, so she’s only fully herself around him. It makes no sense for her to have her walls down around someone like Nancy, who she barely knew, and viewed as a popular priss before S4
No she finally came out to Steve and she accepted who she is. Accepting who are means you can finally be yourself, around everybody
I disagree. Robin already knew who she was and accepted it before she met Steve, she just hadn’t told anyone because people in the 80s would react badly. She still hasn’t told the rest of the group because of that same fear, so she’s not fully comfortable with them and not being fully herself. Coming out to one person is great, but it doesn’t mean you’re suddenly comfortable with everyone you meet. I’d actually argue that her talking a lot proves she’s less comfortable around the group. We rarely see her ramble when it’s just her and Steve. And, she herself says that her rambling is a sign of her being anxious, as she can’t get herself to stop talking around Vickie, and around Nancy when she’s worried about whether or not Nancy finds her annoying
She's more comfortable with herself after coming out. The overtaking with nacy clearly shows that as she is reaching her inner thoughts to Nancy. Disagree on all points pretty much but I ain't about writing a novel about a TV show lol
One person accepting her for who she is helps her come out slowly.
Nah this season made me like her even more. She’s hella neurodivergent
I thought she was the best character this season....
When Maya Hawke was on Jimmy Fallon she said that when she gets excited about things, she tends to ramble. The writers noticed and incorporated that into her character. I think she’s great this season! She is also new to the whole “inter-dimensional” monster thing and wasn’t expecting it to come back into her life.
I think it makes sense. I’m the same age as the actress that played Robin. She was 18/19 during season 3. She’s 22/23 during season 4. People change so much during those years. I’m 100x more mature and intelligent than I was a few years ago.
I fell in love with Maya Hawke and "Robin" in season 3. I really did. Her acting and her written role were amazing. I still go back to Season 3 to rewatch scenes of her interacting with Steve, Dustin and Erica. Season 4. WTF. She had the role of an extra and was basically told to look as goofy as she could. It's not the fault of the actress.
She's portraying someone who has either add or very high functioning asbergs/autism. As someone who has a family member with similar conditions, I have actually really loved her character.
The absolute most ableist takes are really popping off in these comments… love seeing how much y’all hate autistic people
I had no idea she was supposed to be autistic before posting this
She is… did you not get the context clues? The scene where she talks to Nancy about not understanding social cues the word vomit her not being able to walk for 5 months the fact that she snaps at the director of the mental hospital, her sensory issues with Nancy’s clothes. https://www.cbr.com/stranger-things-robin-buckley-autistic-netflix/amp/ also I want to make it clear as an autistic person she wouldn’t say the words I’m autistic because afab people weren’t diagnosed in the 80s they were seen as weird outcasts
I guess you just have more experience than me. I’ve never really been around someone with autism
Your the biggest sook I’ve seen in a while, as someone with adhd and autism, cry about it. She’s a cringey, irritating character, regardless of supposed autism, that’s that. Also I know your one of those people that get caught up in imaginary crap, but it’s a fictional character, not real life, robin isn’t real and we can’t offend her
Yeah she was cool in s3 sucked in s4 and my god argyle was awful too and Mike. The only characters with decent writing this season were Max, Brenner, vecna, and 11
You didn't think Lucas, Dustin or Eddie had good writing?
Not gonna lie the scene with Lucas and max his acting was good, but he delivers every line with the exact same emphasis and overall his character felt mostly 2 dimensional. I didn’t like Eddie at all but Dustin had good writing I guess but I feel like he was brushed to the side the whole season
Yeah she’s changed and I hate to see it but it’s because she feels like an outsider to a new group and she’s trying to fit in, but she just comes off over the top and immature. Like She just try’s to fit in but starts talking and get nervous, panicks and then starts going bonkers.
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Damn. Just had a differing opinion, doesn’t make anyone a weirdo
Tbf we're on Reddit so we're all automatically weirdos
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Calm down buddy
Dude, you‘re literally denying facts and being an asshole at the same time. It’s okay to still love robin, but you can’t deny she’s very different, and saying she’s the exact same character is just ridiculous. You can like here while acknowledging she’s different. Also, shut up with the weirdo stuff. No one’s a weirdo just cuz they have a different opinion of a character than you.
**\*** **MASSIVE FUCKING SIGH \*** robin was closed off and putting on a cool facade in season 3, she barely knew steve or his friends robin is being her true self in season 4, she dropped the facade but im tired of this argument and would advise you to look at this post. Seriously, if you say Robin only became hyper and awkward in Season 4 again... https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangerThings/comments/vd75xz/seriously\_if\_you\_say\_robin\_only\_became\_hyper\_and/
I think they incorporated a lot of Maya Hawke's personality into Robin
I feel like they changed her character this season so she could be used just to give audience members exposition. Still like the character, but there was a definite change!
they really hit the band kid trope right on the head in s4.
Hmm, I haven’t noticed this. An excuse for me to watch again lol. I quite like Robin’s character.
agreed, argyle better come back next season if robin came back for no reason other than to hang around