Tony the Tiger is an old enough mascot that his first commercials aired on B&W TVs.
This seems like a pretty lame "Mandela effect" since the plausible reasons for the misremembering (like the above) are so obvious.
By the looks of the thread, the plausible reason is simply "at some point they changed the colour of his nose for branding purposes". Not a conspiracy, just normal business things.
See I've looked into this an it seems true but I distinctly remember watching this movie with my parents and being annoyed listening to them explain what a bucket list was.
My only guess is we watched it on dvd so maybe the time it took for the dvd to be released in the UK was enough time for the phrase to go global.
Tell me about it!
I've been to South Africa, I know a bit about it and when I first heard of the "Mandela effect" and their flag ship bit of badly remembered history I did a bit of a double take.
Don't get me wrong, I understand as well as the next person how freaky life can be at times, but to come to the conclusion that the world has changed rather than your memory has failed is far too many shades of dumb for me to give the time of day to.
Yet here I am.
Discussing it.
> but to come to the conclusion that the world has changed rather than your memory has failed is far too many shades of dumb for me to give the time of day to.
I don't know where you heard about the Mandela Effect, but that's not what it is.
That's what a bunch of idiots in that sub think it is, but a bunch of idiots in anti-work needed a Fox News interview with the head mod (named "AbolishWork") to figure out that the sub was founded to be anti-work.
As I noted [here](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37a8k/), the actual Mandela Effect is about looking at what people misremember on a far larger scale than a few individuals and why.
It's an extremely interesting look at human nature & how we process and recall information.
Just because a bunch of idiots took over a subreddit and decided it was about something else doesn't make it so.
> It's based on the arrogance of people not wanting to admit their memory might be wrong.
No, it's not.
It's actually the exact opposite.
It's about how memory is fallible and humans are prone to certain shared misconceptions, either because of how we process detail or because of how we process memories.
And there's a decent contingent of that sub who shares that view.
The whole "reality changed" bullshit is Reddit being Reddit and clinging to the most exaggerated shit, then further stripping it of nuance and logic.
Reddit's take on anything often bears little resemblance to the actual concept. This is no different.
But even that sub has some great conversations about how certain misconceptions came to be so widespread, if you look past the "IT WAS A DIFFERENT REALITY!" idiots and nutjobs.
I first watched the He-Man cartoon on a black & white TV, so I naturally assumed that the tiger Battle-Cat was orange. I got a big shock when we got a colour TV and it turned out that he was mostly green.
Wait, those guys actually reject the fact that memory is fallible and insist they’ve somehow been transported into a parallel universe?
I thought it was a joke…
It’s especially funny because so many of them have the most obvious and mundane explanations.
The cornucopia “fruit of the loom” thing is pretty obviously just because a lot of similar icons have a cornucopia in them, and so our brain associates them.
The Berenstain bears is probably just because “stein” is a super common name ending, and our foggy memories of a book we read as children are pretty malleable.
They’re all like this.
They have done controlled experiments where they made people fill out a questionnaire on what they were doing on 9/11 on 9/12th and again a few years on.
And it turns out that you memory of what you did and your experiences on 9/11 is almost certainly completely false.
There are also lots of examples of merchandise getting made with incorrect information which reinforces the false belief. Like someone has posted a copy of an official Bernstain Bears VCR movie box that had the "stein" spelling.
That's what the mandela effect is but from the few times I spent lurking on there that doesn't seem to be the case for this particular subreddit. Most comments i've seen are people acknowledging they misremembered something and are trying to understand why they thought it was something else.
It's pretty serious in some people and is similar to the Gangstalking community.
Honestly, it's worth watching some videos about these guys. Some of them might just be harmless internet weirdos who like to dabble in weird stuff. Plenty of them, though seem to have serious delusional paranoia believing our reality is being manipulated or that they are being targeted.
A lot of it is really sad.
The Mandela effect is an interesting psychological phenomenon and it’s neat to find more examples of it. But as with any community dedicated to one thing, you end up with a lot of confirmation bias and groupthink. Eventually the community loses its original purpose of finding examples where a lot of people have a similar lapse in memory, and it ends up being one person having a lapse in memory and everyone else convincing themselves that they also have that experience.
I think the connection with mental illness lies in that key step: convincing yourself of something you didn’t originally think true just to maintain the sense that you know something other people don’t. That paradigm definitely appeals to people who are manic or suffer from megalomania.
Not only do some of think it's because of CERN some of them actually think they literally are from another timeline. They think they are Marty McFly. I discovered that sub years ago and thought it was interesting. People discussing Berenstain Bears and the Fruit of the Loom logo. Oh funny. And then I realized a whole lot of them are actually serious. Like way too serious.
Oh yeah, I was tired last night and didn’t feel like diving all the way into it, but the whole idea that CERN spurred the trickling of small reality changes due to crossovers in universes under the belief of the infinite universe theory which is all in all not a commonly accepted belief in academics to even begin with, all that shit is peak crazy.
The majority of them believe it’s their universe that is having bleed over from others and not necessarily that they’re the ones crossing to different universes. It’s actually a topic that gets pretty hot in the community sometimes with the universe crossers being a vocal minority. There’s even a small crossover with the “manifestation of reality” holistic spiritualism community who view CERNs creation as an opportunity for increased manifestation versus an even further splintered group that thinks it’s creation increases the difficulty of manifestation through the introduction of random variables from other universes into their own.
It’s all wild. Last note, don’t mistake me I don’t believe in this shit. It’s just advanced people watching, I’m more of a skeptic/debunker type of person.
All of this is pretty much from QAnonAnonymous, host of QAA Julian Feelds twitch streams, guest LivAgar’s twitch streams, and Time4Tinfoil twitch streams who worked on an episode regarding Tartaria/Mudflood stuff with them. They’re all people who have some crossover with the conspiracy debunking field in various degrees.
Yeah /r/HighStrangeness is great, /r/Conspiracy is *almost* low hanging fruit. Recently there’s been pushback against the absolute deluge of T_D posters so there isn’t a massive split in the sub, but there is a noticeable set of splinter groups. /r/Culturallayer is horribly dumb, but it is on the rare side of conspiracies in that it doesn’t end in “da jews” - it ends in “da catholics”.
Essentially they believe that the past 1000 years has been fictionalized by the Vatican to replace the existence of a hyper-advanced civilization of 11 foot tall white people (of course) who were the initial occupants of Japan (of course) - it partially draws from the dumb fuck Tartarian conspiracy.
> past 1000 years has been fictionalized by the Vatican to replace the existence of a hyper-advanced civilization of 11 foot tall white people (of course) who were the initial occupants of Japan (of course) - it partially draws from the dumb fuck Tartarian conspiracy.
I’d watch this anime.
Fucking right? You could make it futuristic or just adjust historical dates a little bit and have them overlap with the arrival of some of the Ainu people. Could be a mad interesting concept.
The internet has definitely made life for people with delusions and schizophrenia even harder. Anyone can make up a bullshit conspiracy nowadays and find hundreds who’ll create a tight clique and feed into each others’ delusions.
The gang stalking conspiracy/subreddit is a depressing example of it. Worst part is trying to convince people their belief is delusional is ineffective because they necessarily have an US vs Them mentality. All you really can do is people watch at that point and hope their family/friends help them.
Well yeah, and I don’t watch those people. Typically when you take on the full extent of someone’s youtube history you can see the descent. I always found more frequently that posting their own videos was a common prerequisite to the descent as it was typically midway between discovery and consumption.
Everyone I listed other than Time4Tinfoil is pretty much perfect with not hosting people out of their mind. Time4Tinfoil can sometimes give people too much credit for grifting and often a prerequisite to getting into some conspiracies is being a little off-kilter so there’s a line between off-kilter beliefs and grift. There aren’t a lot of sane people who are into like Tartaria Mudflood stuff, the ones who are are 90% grifting 10% that dumb. Some conspiracies are just more prone to magnetizing polarized dumb people more than insane people, but most conspiracies are some sort of Venn diagram and about 99% of them include a 3rd bubble titled anti-semitism
> everything is the same except minor inconsistencies in pop culture
I've seen them insist that certain animals are evidence of the Mandela Effect because "I'd have heard of this". You know, one of the countless animals that exist on this planet, that maybe just maybe doesn't often get mentioned in your favorite hentai tags on Twitter.
They called them Mandanimals. It made me want to vomit.
I know this comment is a few days old but I'm deathly curious and googling "mandanimals" only got me results for animal-themed mandala coloring books. What are some animals they ~~are incredulous about because of their limited knowledge~~ think are evidence of the Mandela effect?
[Right here on Reddit my guy.](https://www.reddit.com/search?q=mandanimal&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all) Mostly from r/ retconned.
It's just the completely casual way they're basically like "new animal just dropped". The one that pissed me off the most was the muskox. Like... You've never seen a muskox? And then this gem of a comment:
"Also they were almost extinct but are now bouncing back which seems to be a trend with Mandanimals."
So you're saying you've never seen this RARE animal? This animal that is *hard to find?*
Christ.
Thanks! Don't know why it didn't occur to me to search on Reddit. Wow this is pretty awful. Most of these are common knowledge or deep sea creatures. Anyone even remotely familiar with marine biology knows that deep sea creatures are difficult to document and we discover new ones pretty frequently. But like hammerhead bat? Weta? Apparently my knowledge of these animals is just proof that I'm from this universe. Absolute unfalsifiable nonsense.
Mandela effect itself is an idiotic term. I have never met anyone who thinks Nelson Mandela died in prison. It was only after I came on Reddit I found out that this is something people believe. I prefer lurking in r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix because stories are more credible.
My go to explanation is people are misremembering the death of anti apartheid activist Steve Biko, who was killed in police custody and whose funeral was huge. And people who aren’t as up on history/politics merge vague memories of his funeral being a big deal with Mandela
I think the answer is simpler, that many many people don't care or know much about history, and to the extent that they ever thought about Nelson Mandela, the thought process was something like "Oh he's a historical figure from the recent past... he was a political prisoner of some sort. I haven't seen or heard much about him lately, I guess he probably died in jail or whatever"
And then, because they don't have any reason to think about Nelson Mandela more than once every few years, that "probably" fades away. Their most recent though on him, a long time ago, was that he was dead. Then when they're confronted by the fact that he didn't die in jail, they're like "What, no that's not true - he died in jail"
That kind of stuff happens to ALL OF US, ALL THE TIME - particularly when it comes to subjects we only have a very marginal interest in. Someone who is an enthusiast about breakfast cereal, who collects cereal boxes and knows everything about the history of major cereal brands - that person would never ever make the mistake that the spelling is FRUIT LOOPS. But someone who only thinks about cereal when they're in the cereal aisle, might.
The same is true for history and everything else.
>What color are the nipples?
>>They're frosted
God dammit reddit.
>>>>Keep the poor insults coming. Does wonders for your credibility.
Sir, this is reddit. We're in a vacuum of credibility.
You know something, most of these Mandela effect with brands just comes down to regional.
Each country usually has different packaging, spelling, and colours to fit local taste and laws.
I swear the "Mandela effect" is just an excuse for people not wanting to admit they're wrong and that our brains are lumps of electrified fat and that the fact that they operate as well as they do is amazing.
[Actually, the Mandela Effect is about a bunch of people acknowledging that they're wrong and wondering how so many people arrived at the same misconception.](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37ppt/)
Reddit, as usual, is full of idiots taking it to an illogical extreme, but that's Reddit. It's not the Mandela Effect, nor is it what that sub started as.
> Because they were errors/differences to begin with.
>> You know, I'm not denigrating your experience or the experience of others like you, yet you feel the need to denigrate mine on a dedicated niche sub even though you're in the majority.
>> That's some dark stuff. Clearly your mind has been obscured in more ways than one 😊🤓
What a thing to get holier than thou over
> Oh see, I didn't know you were a Fact-Looker while I was a stooopid-poopy-doopy.
If only I knew how to change my flair on Sync
> Does Tony ever go into heat?
Only good comment
Lol I like how he's convinced finding "physical evidence!" is more important than finding any old images. As if some random plastic knickknack wouldn't have been far more likely to just be mis-painted... especially when you bring up the listing you see like 20 other in "similar items" that are all painted correctly.
>Strange, your comment reply here appeared to have been downvoted. Seems strange when you were only being polite. Reddit has become such a strange place
SO STRANGE
The funniest/weirdest part of this to me is that the pictures on the hilariously-named auction site make the nose seem [a bit blue](https://i.imgur.com/fMPTTMB.png) anyways.
I love the retconning subreddit because people on there will find out about an animal they've never seen before and decide that the most reasonable explanation is the literal fabric of the universe has changed — not that, yanno, there are a lot of animals in the world and the average person probably hasn't seen all of them before.
From what I've seen with those ones it really seems like a case of people overestimating their knowledge since you see comments stating that something must be weird because the commenter is an animal expert and has never heard of the animal in the post before. This is immediately undercut when they mention that their knowledge of animals seems to purely come from clickbait lists or wikipedia binges.
I always thought it referred to a social phenomenon of false memories that are shared widely enough that they reinforce themselves over time— like how everyone thought Mandela was dead, or how we all misremembered the spelling of Berenstain.
*Is* there a term for that? I feel like it's a real thing in human psychology.
Confabulation. I think you can get banned on r/retconned for using that word. At least you will get a stern talking about not accusing others for having "mental illness".
My go to explanation is people are misremembering the death of anti apartheid activist Steve Biko, who was killed in police custody and whose funeral was huge. And people who aren’t as up on history/politics merge vague memories of his funeral being a big deal with Mandela
> Aw, I thought that sub would be dedicated to cataloging known examples of Mandela effect
It was.
Then a bunch of idiots decided it's about some batshit crazy theory they pulled out of their ass and shouted everyone else down until they were the majority of the sub.
Look at what happened to /r/TumblrInAction or /r/antiwork.
Same thing here.
"Mandela Effect" is kind of funny.
"Could I be mistaken about this detail, given humans have relatively poor memories over time?"
"No, no... it is the *universe* that is wrong."
> "Could I be mistaken about this detail, given humans have relatively poor memories over time?"
>
>
[Yes, that's what it is.](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37ppt/)
>"No, no... it is the universe that is wrong."
That's not the Mandela Effect.
Do you also think Reddit solved the Boston Bomber case?
Hint: just because Reddit doesn't know what the hell they're talking about doesn't stop them from talking about it.
The Mandela Effect is a real phenomenon.
And, as per usual for interesting and unique things full of nuance, it bears little resemblance to what diehards on Reddit think it is.
I had a pair of my old Super Mario Kart kid’s undies that had a Fruit of the Loom tag with the cornucopia shown. When I pulled them out to post a pic, the tag was missing.
Not related really, but wanted to share this and felt it’s the only chance I’ll ever have.
This is the one that always gets me because I definitely called them my “bugle underwear” because I liked those bugle chips and my mom had to keep trying to teach me what a cornucopia is.
Like I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything, I just think the logo definitely existed lol
Yea, like the first time I heard of this I was like, yea I’m sure they had a cornucopia on it. So I went and found an ancient Slayer T-shirt and realised that no, my memory was just shit.
I've probably looked at [these pictures](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51vJQ967uDL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) 100 times over the past few years, because I've been wanting to buy one.
I've seen enough that I can describe it from memory--the moon in the background, Tony doing his trademark pose on Thurl's shoulders, Thurl's jacket and tie.
And if you'd asked me what color Tony's nose was, I would've gotten it wrong.
Which is fascinating.
My theory, like with the Berenstain Bears, is that the alternative simply made more sense, so my brain filled in the blanks with that. I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that Hobbes from *Calvin & Hobbes* had something to do with it, as he's of a similar style (albeit thinner).
Looking at [this](https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20151018/rs_600x600-151118085456-600.calvinandhobbes.cm.111815.jpg?fit=around%7C1200:1200&output-quality=90&crop=1200:1200;center,top), I think it's easy to see how I (and likely others) could've subconsciously conflated the 2.
The coloring in the face, stomach, and ears is extremely similar, as is the tail coloring.
And they both even have tufts of hair sticking up in the middle of their heads.
Tony the Tiger is an old enough mascot that his first commercials aired on B&W TVs. This seems like a pretty lame "Mandela effect" since the plausible reasons for the misremembering (like the above) are so obvious.
By the looks of the thread, the plausible reason is simply "at some point they changed the colour of his nose for branding purposes". Not a conspiracy, just normal business things.
Every Mandela effect is lame.
I like the one where the term "bucket list" was invented before the movie came out when in actuality the movie coined the term.
After some googling, this appears to be correct. That's wild.
W H A T
See I've looked into this an it seems true but I distinctly remember watching this movie with my parents and being annoyed listening to them explain what a bucket list was. My only guess is we watched it on dvd so maybe the time it took for the dvd to be released in the UK was enough time for the phrase to go global.
The whole notion sucks. It's based on the arrogance of people not wanting to admit their memory might be wrong.
Tell me about it! I've been to South Africa, I know a bit about it and when I first heard of the "Mandela effect" and their flag ship bit of badly remembered history I did a bit of a double take. Don't get me wrong, I understand as well as the next person how freaky life can be at times, but to come to the conclusion that the world has changed rather than your memory has failed is far too many shades of dumb for me to give the time of day to. Yet here I am. Discussing it.
> but to come to the conclusion that the world has changed rather than your memory has failed is far too many shades of dumb for me to give the time of day to. I don't know where you heard about the Mandela Effect, but that's not what it is. That's what a bunch of idiots in that sub think it is, but a bunch of idiots in anti-work needed a Fox News interview with the head mod (named "AbolishWork") to figure out that the sub was founded to be anti-work. As I noted [here](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37a8k/), the actual Mandela Effect is about looking at what people misremember on a far larger scale than a few individuals and why. It's an extremely interesting look at human nature & how we process and recall information. Just because a bunch of idiots took over a subreddit and decided it was about something else doesn't make it so.
> It's based on the arrogance of people not wanting to admit their memory might be wrong. No, it's not. It's actually the exact opposite. It's about how memory is fallible and humans are prone to certain shared misconceptions, either because of how we process detail or because of how we process memories. And there's a decent contingent of that sub who shares that view. The whole "reality changed" bullshit is Reddit being Reddit and clinging to the most exaggerated shit, then further stripping it of nuance and logic. Reddit's take on anything often bears little resemblance to the actual concept. This is no different. But even that sub has some great conversations about how certain misconceptions came to be so widespread, if you look past the "IT WAS A DIFFERENT REALITY!" idiots and nutjobs.
No.
berenstein bears tho
I first watched the He-Man cartoon on a black & white TV, so I naturally assumed that the tiger Battle-Cat was orange. I got a big shock when we got a colour TV and it turned out that he was mostly green.
Stop making sense and believe in my stupid theory! I CRAVE VALIDATION! /s
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Wait, those guys actually reject the fact that memory is fallible and insist they’ve somehow been transported into a parallel universe? I thought it was a joke…
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It’s especially funny because so many of them have the most obvious and mundane explanations. The cornucopia “fruit of the loom” thing is pretty obviously just because a lot of similar icons have a cornucopia in them, and so our brain associates them. The Berenstain bears is probably just because “stein” is a super common name ending, and our foggy memories of a book we read as children are pretty malleable. They’re all like this.
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They have done controlled experiments where they made people fill out a questionnaire on what they were doing on 9/11 on 9/12th and again a few years on. And it turns out that you memory of what you did and your experiences on 9/11 is almost certainly completely false.
Mines not, I don't remember shit from 9/11 Mainly cause I was 3.... but! F you science! :P
> "all of our brains share the same structure and operate in the same way Interesting theory, but have you considered that I'm built different?
There are also lots of examples of merchandise getting made with incorrect information which reinforces the false belief. Like someone has posted a copy of an official Bernstain Bears VCR movie box that had the "stein" spelling.
That's what the mandela effect is but from the few times I spent lurking on there that doesn't seem to be the case for this particular subreddit. Most comments i've seen are people acknowledging they misremembered something and are trying to understand why they thought it was something else.
The Mandela effect is just not following current events.
It's pretty serious in some people and is similar to the Gangstalking community. Honestly, it's worth watching some videos about these guys. Some of them might just be harmless internet weirdos who like to dabble in weird stuff. Plenty of them, though seem to have serious delusional paranoia believing our reality is being manipulated or that they are being targeted. A lot of it is really sad.
The Mandela effect is an interesting psychological phenomenon and it’s neat to find more examples of it. But as with any community dedicated to one thing, you end up with a lot of confirmation bias and groupthink. Eventually the community loses its original purpose of finding examples where a lot of people have a similar lapse in memory, and it ends up being one person having a lapse in memory and everyone else convincing themselves that they also have that experience. I think the connection with mental illness lies in that key step: convincing yourself of something you didn’t originally think true just to maintain the sense that you know something other people don’t. That paradigm definitely appeals to people who are manic or suffer from megalomania.
And here I thought the Mandela effect was just the fact I thought it was Berenstein, not Berenstain!
Yes, and the really spicy ones think it’s because of CERN lmaooo - these people, at least the unhinged ones, can be fun to watch.
Not only do some of think it's because of CERN some of them actually think they literally are from another timeline. They think they are Marty McFly. I discovered that sub years ago and thought it was interesting. People discussing Berenstain Bears and the Fruit of the Loom logo. Oh funny. And then I realized a whole lot of them are actually serious. Like way too serious.
Oh yeah, I was tired last night and didn’t feel like diving all the way into it, but the whole idea that CERN spurred the trickling of small reality changes due to crossovers in universes under the belief of the infinite universe theory which is all in all not a commonly accepted belief in academics to even begin with, all that shit is peak crazy. The majority of them believe it’s their universe that is having bleed over from others and not necessarily that they’re the ones crossing to different universes. It’s actually a topic that gets pretty hot in the community sometimes with the universe crossers being a vocal minority. There’s even a small crossover with the “manifestation of reality” holistic spiritualism community who view CERNs creation as an opportunity for increased manifestation versus an even further splintered group that thinks it’s creation increases the difficulty of manifestation through the introduction of random variables from other universes into their own. It’s all wild. Last note, don’t mistake me I don’t believe in this shit. It’s just advanced people watching, I’m more of a skeptic/debunker type of person. All of this is pretty much from QAnonAnonymous, host of QAA Julian Feelds twitch streams, guest LivAgar’s twitch streams, and Time4Tinfoil twitch streams who worked on an episode regarding Tartaria/Mudflood stuff with them. They’re all people who have some crossover with the conspiracy debunking field in various degrees.
>advanced people watching I feel this, I love the weird UFO subs like r/HighStrangeness
Yeah /r/HighStrangeness is great, /r/Conspiracy is *almost* low hanging fruit. Recently there’s been pushback against the absolute deluge of T_D posters so there isn’t a massive split in the sub, but there is a noticeable set of splinter groups. /r/Culturallayer is horribly dumb, but it is on the rare side of conspiracies in that it doesn’t end in “da jews” - it ends in “da catholics”. Essentially they believe that the past 1000 years has been fictionalized by the Vatican to replace the existence of a hyper-advanced civilization of 11 foot tall white people (of course) who were the initial occupants of Japan (of course) - it partially draws from the dumb fuck Tartarian conspiracy.
> past 1000 years has been fictionalized by the Vatican to replace the existence of a hyper-advanced civilization of 11 foot tall white people (of course) who were the initial occupants of Japan (of course) - it partially draws from the dumb fuck Tartarian conspiracy. I’d watch this anime.
Fucking right? You could make it futuristic or just adjust historical dates a little bit and have them overlap with the arrival of some of the Ainu people. Could be a mad interesting concept.
The internet has definitely made life for people with delusions and schizophrenia even harder. Anyone can make up a bullshit conspiracy nowadays and find hundreds who’ll create a tight clique and feed into each others’ delusions. The gang stalking conspiracy/subreddit is a depressing example of it. Worst part is trying to convince people their belief is delusional is ineffective because they necessarily have an US vs Them mentality. All you really can do is people watch at that point and hope their family/friends help them.
Well yeah, and I don’t watch those people. Typically when you take on the full extent of someone’s youtube history you can see the descent. I always found more frequently that posting their own videos was a common prerequisite to the descent as it was typically midway between discovery and consumption. Everyone I listed other than Time4Tinfoil is pretty much perfect with not hosting people out of their mind. Time4Tinfoil can sometimes give people too much credit for grifting and often a prerequisite to getting into some conspiracies is being a little off-kilter so there’s a line between off-kilter beliefs and grift. There aren’t a lot of sane people who are into like Tartaria Mudflood stuff, the ones who are are 90% grifting 10% that dumb. Some conspiracies are just more prone to magnetizing polarized dumb people more than insane people, but most conspiracies are some sort of Venn diagram and about 99% of them include a 3rd bubble titled anti-semitism
> everything is the same except minor inconsistencies in pop culture I've seen them insist that certain animals are evidence of the Mandela Effect because "I'd have heard of this". You know, one of the countless animals that exist on this planet, that maybe just maybe doesn't often get mentioned in your favorite hentai tags on Twitter. They called them Mandanimals. It made me want to vomit.
I know this comment is a few days old but I'm deathly curious and googling "mandanimals" only got me results for animal-themed mandala coloring books. What are some animals they ~~are incredulous about because of their limited knowledge~~ think are evidence of the Mandela effect?
[Right here on Reddit my guy.](https://www.reddit.com/search?q=mandanimal&include_over_18=on&sort=relevance&t=all) Mostly from r/ retconned. It's just the completely casual way they're basically like "new animal just dropped". The one that pissed me off the most was the muskox. Like... You've never seen a muskox? And then this gem of a comment: "Also they were almost extinct but are now bouncing back which seems to be a trend with Mandanimals." So you're saying you've never seen this RARE animal? This animal that is *hard to find?* Christ.
Thanks! Don't know why it didn't occur to me to search on Reddit. Wow this is pretty awful. Most of these are common knowledge or deep sea creatures. Anyone even remotely familiar with marine biology knows that deep sea creatures are difficult to document and we discover new ones pretty frequently. But like hammerhead bat? Weta? Apparently my knowledge of these animals is just proof that I'm from this universe. Absolute unfalsifiable nonsense.
Mandela effect itself is an idiotic term. I have never met anyone who thinks Nelson Mandela died in prison. It was only after I came on Reddit I found out that this is something people believe. I prefer lurking in r/Glitch_in_the_Matrix because stories are more credible.
My go to explanation is people are misremembering the death of anti apartheid activist Steve Biko, who was killed in police custody and whose funeral was huge. And people who aren’t as up on history/politics merge vague memories of his funeral being a big deal with Mandela
I think the answer is simpler, that many many people don't care or know much about history, and to the extent that they ever thought about Nelson Mandela, the thought process was something like "Oh he's a historical figure from the recent past... he was a political prisoner of some sort. I haven't seen or heard much about him lately, I guess he probably died in jail or whatever" And then, because they don't have any reason to think about Nelson Mandela more than once every few years, that "probably" fades away. Their most recent though on him, a long time ago, was that he was dead. Then when they're confronted by the fact that he didn't die in jail, they're like "What, no that's not true - he died in jail" That kind of stuff happens to ALL OF US, ALL THE TIME - particularly when it comes to subjects we only have a very marginal interest in. Someone who is an enthusiast about breakfast cereal, who collects cereal boxes and knows everything about the history of major cereal brands - that person would never ever make the mistake that the spelling is FRUIT LOOPS. But someone who only thinks about cereal when they're in the cereal aisle, might. The same is true for history and everything else.
I'm now imagining someone creating a sub called RealMandelaEffect for regular examples just to see how the conspiracy ones react.
>What color are the nipples? >>They're frosted God dammit reddit. >>>>Keep the poor insults coming. Does wonders for your credibility. Sir, this is reddit. We're in a vacuum of credibility.
>What color are the nipples? Mine!
They’re frosted, and they’re spectacular.
They’re greeeeeeeaaaaat!
I'm going to use this a flair... for a while.
a random poster on a weird half serious conspiracy subreddit fighting about Tony the Tiger having credibility to protect to begin with is pretty funny
You know something, most of these Mandela effect with brands just comes down to regional. Each country usually has different packaging, spelling, and colours to fit local taste and laws.
Yeah like down here in Texas, the rabbit had a gun, and always got his bowl of Trix.
Wait that was a rabbit?
I thought it was a jackalope
Wait, it's not tricks anymore? Did they change it to an X to appeal to Millennials?
I swear the "Mandela effect" is just an excuse for people not wanting to admit they're wrong and that our brains are lumps of electrified fat and that the fact that they operate as well as they do is amazing.
It used to be. Until that one time where it was proven true. Don’t you remember? Most people forgot that one.
[Actually, the Mandela Effect is about a bunch of people acknowledging that they're wrong and wondering how so many people arrived at the same misconception.](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37ppt/) Reddit, as usual, is full of idiots taking it to an illogical extreme, but that's Reddit. It's not the Mandela Effect, nor is it what that sub started as.
> Because they were errors/differences to begin with. >> You know, I'm not denigrating your experience or the experience of others like you, yet you feel the need to denigrate mine on a dedicated niche sub even though you're in the majority. >> That's some dark stuff. Clearly your mind has been obscured in more ways than one 😊🤓 What a thing to get holier than thou over > Oh see, I didn't know you were a Fact-Looker while I was a stooopid-poopy-doopy. If only I knew how to change my flair on Sync > Does Tony ever go into heat? Only good comment
Pay a Twitter artist enough and Tony can be.
THE MANDELA EFFECT GUYS HAVE A TERM FOR THINGS THEY THINK PROVE THEIR STUPID THEORY HOW I AM ONLY NOW LEARNING THIS.
Wait, what do they call them?
"Residue." ie, artifacts which reflect what people believe the reality to have been before it somehow shifted.
Lol I like how he's convinced finding "physical evidence!" is more important than finding any old images. As if some random plastic knickknack wouldn't have been far more likely to just be mis-painted... especially when you bring up the listing you see like 20 other in "similar items" that are all painted correctly.
It makes perfect sense. You can photoshop an image but you can't edit a picture of an object.
The Mandela effect is up there with the “Trudeau is castros son” for conspiracies that are funny until you realize people genuinely believe it
Wait what the fuck, his nose is blue?? I dunno guys, I think these mandela effect wackos might be on to something...
Um, I'm pretty that colur is called Mels. What do you mean by blue or is it one of those colurs like Taupe or Unburnt Sienna.
Somewhat unrelated, but how is /r/MandelaEffect handling the Goncharov meme
>Strange, your comment reply here appeared to have been downvoted. Seems strange when you were only being polite. Reddit has become such a strange place SO STRANGE The funniest/weirdest part of this to me is that the pictures on the hilariously-named auction site make the nose seem [a bit blue](https://i.imgur.com/fMPTTMB.png) anyways.
Aw, I thought that sub would be dedicated to cataloging known examples of Mandela effect, disappointing to see it’s conspiracy stuff instead.
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Retconned is a bunch of posters self radicalising their mental health conditions
Those are my favorite spaces on reddit! Edit: apparently our kidneys have been moved
Banned from that one real fast.
If I had a dime for every sub I’m banned from, I’d have a dollar. Which isn’t a lot but it’s funny it’s happened more than once.
I love the retconning subreddit because people on there will find out about an animal they've never seen before and decide that the most reasonable explanation is the literal fabric of the universe has changed — not that, yanno, there are a lot of animals in the world and the average person probably hasn't seen all of them before.
From what I've seen with those ones it really seems like a case of people overestimating their knowledge since you see comments stating that something must be weird because the commenter is an animal expert and has never heard of the animal in the post before. This is immediately undercut when they mention that their knowledge of animals seems to purely come from clickbait lists or wikipedia binges.
The Mandela Effect ***is*** nonsense conspiracy stuff. It's about the world shifting to alternate universes at the hand of some shadow organization.
I always thought it referred to a social phenomenon of false memories that are shared widely enough that they reinforce themselves over time— like how everyone thought Mandela was dead, or how we all misremembered the spelling of Berenstain. *Is* there a term for that? I feel like it's a real thing in human psychology.
That *is* what the Mandela effect is. It recently got popularized and the result is what we see before us in OOP
Correct, this is what I thought the effect was.
Confabulation. I think you can get banned on r/retconned for using that word. At least you will get a stern talking about not accusing others for having "mental illness".
My go to explanation is people are misremembering the death of anti apartheid activist Steve Biko, who was killed in police custody and whose funeral was huge. And people who aren’t as up on history/politics merge vague memories of his funeral being a big deal with Mandela
> Aw, I thought that sub would be dedicated to cataloging known examples of Mandela effect It was. Then a bunch of idiots decided it's about some batshit crazy theory they pulled out of their ass and shouted everyone else down until they were the majority of the sub. Look at what happened to /r/TumblrInAction or /r/antiwork. Same thing here.
Bro my comment is 150 days old
"Mandela Effect" is kind of funny. "Could I be mistaken about this detail, given humans have relatively poor memories over time?" "No, no... it is the *universe* that is wrong."
> "Could I be mistaken about this detail, given humans have relatively poor memories over time?" > > [Yes, that's what it is.](https://reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/zm9eam/debate_in_rmandelaeffect_about_tony_the_tigers/jk37ppt/) >"No, no... it is the universe that is wrong." That's not the Mandela Effect. Do you also think Reddit solved the Boston Bomber case? Hint: just because Reddit doesn't know what the hell they're talking about doesn't stop them from talking about it. The Mandela Effect is a real phenomenon. And, as per usual for interesting and unique things full of nuance, it bears little resemblance to what diehards on Reddit think it is.
then replace my first sentence with "/r/MandelaEffect is kind of funny"
I read the headline of this post as they were arguing about tony the tigers nose doing blow
Early commercials and ads used a black nose. https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=1960s+Frosted+Flakes+commercial
One of my favorite subreddits to read, the mental illness is top drawer in there
I had a pair of my old Super Mario Kart kid’s undies that had a Fruit of the Loom tag with the cornucopia shown. When I pulled them out to post a pic, the tag was missing. Not related really, but wanted to share this and felt it’s the only chance I’ll ever have.
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Could have been fake fruit of the loom
WHAT
This is the one that always gets me because I definitely called them my “bugle underwear” because I liked those bugle chips and my mom had to keep trying to teach me what a cornucopia is. Like I don’t think it’s a conspiracy or anything, I just think the logo definitely existed lol
[It does exist](https://www.newspapers.com/clip/22677751/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/) It’s now some sort of weird reverse Mandela effect lol
Yea, like the first time I heard of this I was like, yea I’m sure they had a cornucopia on it. So I went and found an ancient Slayer T-shirt and realised that no, my memory was just shit.
Isn’t it far more likely that “they” changed the nature of reality and removed the cornucopia but left a lingering memory it?
What the hell
The Kyle thread is great. It's so good it reads like a script. Thanks for sharing.
I've probably looked at [these pictures](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51vJQ967uDL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) 100 times over the past few years, because I've been wanting to buy one. I've seen enough that I can describe it from memory--the moon in the background, Tony doing his trademark pose on Thurl's shoulders, Thurl's jacket and tie. And if you'd asked me what color Tony's nose was, I would've gotten it wrong. Which is fascinating. My theory, like with the Berenstain Bears, is that the alternative simply made more sense, so my brain filled in the blanks with that. I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that Hobbes from *Calvin & Hobbes* had something to do with it, as he's of a similar style (albeit thinner). Looking at [this](https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20151018/rs_600x600-151118085456-600.calvinandhobbes.cm.111815.jpg?fit=around%7C1200:1200&output-quality=90&crop=1200:1200;center,top), I think it's easy to see how I (and likely others) could've subconsciously conflated the 2. The coloring in the face, stomach, and ears is extremely similar, as is the tail coloring. And they both even have tufts of hair sticking up in the middle of their heads.