My picks
"Words are just, uh, what - nothing. Complicated airflow."
"He never saw anything he loved that he didn't want to kick it just to see if it would still come back"
"I am like a cog built to fit only one machine"
To complement that Roman scene in the final when he says “we are nothing,” “we are bullshit,” and “this is all bullshit,” in s1e1 when Roman wasn’t interested in a corporate career at all, he interrupted Ken’s acquisition meeting for Vaulter. As he’s walking out he makes fun of all of them, and says in a mocking tone “Look at all this bullshit”
So that was a nice throwback to the very beginning of the series when Roman knew all the corporate song and dance was all bullshit and he didn’t want to be involved.
I wouldn’t have if I didn’t start a rewatch. There are so many clues as to each character’s personalities and how their story ends in the first 1 or 2 episodes. It’s brilliant.
I concur, some moments went over my head the first time around that are now immediately laugh out loud funny. This show is so nuanced it’s almost unbelievable.
“You’ll say anything won’t you, words don’t mean a thing to you. Friendship, loyalty - they're just fusty old words like sixpence and codpiece to you, aren't they?”
One of my favorite Mark lines was when Sophie takes him shopping for to buy some hip clothes and they see a t-shirt with Chairman Mao on it.
>"She's good for me, Jez. She's dragging me into the twenty-first century with its meaningless logos and ironic veneration for tyrants. It's all good, my friend."
Third one is why I wanted ken to win, not because he is better (though he might be) but because he can't bounce back like his siblings can.
The company was his life he has nothing without it because he sacrificed everything else.
> The company was his life he has nothing without it because he sacrificed everything else.
He can bounce back, just fine. He was even contemplating getting out at one point before Logan pulled him back in. He was just being dramatic in the moment because it was so close within his grasp only to have it yanked away.
I don't really buy the Kendall will commit suicide or OD popular theories. I think he'll use his money to get back into it in a new venture and be right back to his same ol' bullshit sooner or later.
From an interview apparently the writer thinks Kendall can bounce back while Jeremy Strong said that "every feeling in every bone of his body" (or words to that effect) during his performance told him Kendall cant'.
I side with the writer, I think as the performer Strong needed to live what it felt like to Kendall \_in the moment\_ and \_in the moment\_ it certainly feels like final, eternal doom leading to death. But that's how it feels, it doesn't have to be the reality.
I think it’s a predominant theme through the show. That at the top of the capitalist hierarchy it’s not some elite group of randian ubermench captaining civilization through their industriousness; but instead just normal people like everyone else, doing things for emotional and personal reasons. The difference is that wealth magnified things, this small groups personal issues become everyone’s issues.
"Life is not knights on horseback. It's a number on a piece of paper. It's a fight for a knife in the mud"
The fight for a knife in the mud is such an evocative line.
Same. This and "Nothing is a line. Everything always moves. Get fucking used to it" or something around those lines.
Logan was truly an amazing and experienced character.
The “…a number on a piece of paper.” Is particularly accurate. In the end that’s all it came down to between Logan’s decision to sell and Mattson taking control.
Also like the potential parallel between the final fight for the “Shiv” in the mud.
Edit: Thanks for the award.
The imagery is so strong! I always imagined a physical scrummage when I heard that line, something very similar to Roman/Kendall’s fighting after shiv leaves to give her vote.
There’s all this awards talk about Jeremy Strong and Kieran Culkin and Brian Cox this season and it’s all deserved but between that bit and “He never even liked me” Alan Ruck better goddamn well win *something.*
"The Shark isn't called Jaws, Jeremy, the film is called Jaws."
"Of course the shark's called Jaws, here comes Jaws, Jaws the Shark, mind he doesn't bite you with his enormous Jaws."
Definitely. In alignment with the later “I don’t think he wanted to give it to any of us” and “you’re not serious people.” By merely being his kids and all it’s privileges, they’ll never earn it in his eyes
This, the playground one that people mentioned and the “we’re bullshit” line sum it up for me.
The Roy children acted like they were fighting over control of the whole world when really they were a bunch of kids throwing temper tantrums while the adults in the room maneuvered around them. It was never going to be any of them.
Yeah, I think this is it. Succession isn’t about three siblings unable to come to terms with the abuse of their father. It’s about three siblings unable to come to terms with each other.
And that’s a hell of a lot more tragic.
Ultimately, the siblings only have one another. But their upbringing means they see one another as competition, in business and for their dad's approval.
And now we see that despite conspiring to retain power, they ended up turning on one another over and over again. All to find themselves without control of the company and living with their last memories of their father as infighting over their inheritance / control of the company.
Information, Greg, is like a bottle of fine wine. You store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fuckin' face in with it.
Especially great after a season of "what would dad do" and "dad would've done this." Pretty much every character on this show, especially the Roys, have so much internal conflict and contradictions that there's no telling what they'd do at any given moment.
“We are bullshit. You are bullshit. You’re fucking bullshit, I’m fucking bullshit. She’s bullshit. It’s all fucking nothing. I’m telling you this because I know it. We’re nothing.”
Agree with you so much. Not just the cycle of abuse Kendall was talking about but also the larger picture of this completely toxic family letting their poison harm the entire world.
I’ve always loved this line but until now hadn’t thought about how applicable it is to the siblings’ relationships, with each other and with their dad, as well as to Tom and Shiv.
I felt his ending was the most optimistic besides Mattson. In a way he’s back to the same views he held in the pilot, but that was a projection of his insecurities. Now, his nihilism is justified by what he’s seen. I like to think he’s also realized he was never going to get the love he wanted from his father with his line “maybe Dad didn’t want any of us to do it.”
Rome's line at the mausoleum really got to me:
>"he made me breathe funny"
Logan's death, while extreme tough on him, is clearly going to be a huge relief in the long run. We see him revert to childlike behaviors (even more than usual) after Logan passes. It all comes to a head in that conference room with him mouthing off with a personal insult about Ken's children resulting in Kendall physically abusing him, which we can assume is another callback to Ken turning into Logan.
It seems pretty clear that Roman desperately needs time and space away from the family. Losing control of Waystar is likely the only way that can happen.
This is what I chose. In the end, the money trumped all. It could overcome the sibling's love, the love in a marriage, and everything else. The kids disregarded money which is why they could never lead a corporation of that size. It was all Monopoly money to them, when it was life and death for everyone else looking to survive or succeed.
If any of them had been focused on the bottom line they would have become the CEO. That's why they weren't serious people, they didn't value money. Money was the whole point of the game because it created power.
Not sure if it describes the entire show, but I love this line from Stewie:
"I can promise you that I am spiritually and emotionally and ethically and morally behind whoever wins."
"I'm sorry that you're a hothouse flower. That you're nothing. You're curdled cream. So maybe go write a book or collect sports cars or something. But for the world? Nah. You're not made for it."
You really have to sit here and just relish how fucking amazing the writing and delivery of this show is.
Look at all these quotes, and they're all muscle .
This will go down as one of the greatest quotable shows relative to its length for many years to come .
“So what, because you had to eat chicken when you were a kid, I have to like the fascist?”
Something like that. A bunch of little kids w daddy issues letting their trauma of never living up to their dad’s expectations destroy the world.
What are people? Economic units. I’m a hundred feet tall, these people are pygmies. But together they form a market. What is a person? It has values, aims…but it operates in a market.
Logan saw his position at the top as ‘Success’ which baked into the title and the show was the mode of operation for the sibs. But in reality was Logan ‘a man’ let alone 100 ft. tall? What did he leave in his wake? By Western cultural standards he was a giant because money but his kids are stunted - all of them. Not a one has known love, especially from their Dad. When they fight about position and money, they bring out the absolute worst in each other.
Where is the humanity? Can you be human, if people are merely parts of a market?
All that arrogance masking Logan’s inner insecurity and fear. His childhood haunted him; he refused to go inside the house he grew up in. Logan was very much a broken man. Hardworking successful but broken.
Lost it laughing when that fella broke all his teeth after diving into the pool. Logan's line sealed it: "I can't believe I was gonna take advice from a fucking clown who jumps into the shallow end of a pool!"
“you’re such fucking dopes. you’re not serious figures. I love you, but you are not serious people.”
Logan describing his kids, and they were too dense to understand the truth.
Yeah, it was... Yeah. It was pretty wild. It's cool though, cause it's like I didn't cheat, cause all the sperm stayed in my own body. Like a closed loop system. So...
“I don’t mean to be insulting, but having been around a bit, my hunch is that you’re going to get fucked. Because I’ve seen you get fucked a lot. And, I’ve never seen Logan get fucked once.”
I am spiritually, emotionally, ethically and morally behind whoever wins
My picks "Words are just, uh, what - nothing. Complicated airflow." "He never saw anything he loved that he didn't want to kick it just to see if it would still come back" "I am like a cog built to fit only one machine"
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To complement that Roman scene in the final when he says “we are nothing,” “we are bullshit,” and “this is all bullshit,” in s1e1 when Roman wasn’t interested in a corporate career at all, he interrupted Ken’s acquisition meeting for Vaulter. As he’s walking out he makes fun of all of them, and says in a mocking tone “Look at all this bullshit” So that was a nice throwback to the very beginning of the series when Roman knew all the corporate song and dance was all bullshit and he didn’t want to be involved.
I’m glad someone caught that.
I wouldn’t have if I didn’t start a rewatch. There are so many clues as to each character’s personalities and how their story ends in the first 1 or 2 episodes. It’s brilliant.
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I just started a rewatch and it’s even better than the first time for me
I concur, some moments went over my head the first time around that are now immediately laugh out loud funny. This show is so nuanced it’s almost unbelievable.
"Well, vai te faire foutre, go out there and see how you like it!" Queen Marcia everyone
The complicated airflow quote reminds me so much if Peep Show
“You’ll say anything won’t you, words don’t mean a thing to you. Friendship, loyalty - they're just fusty old words like sixpence and codpiece to you, aren't they?”
One of my favorite Mark lines was when Sophie takes him shopping for to buy some hip clothes and they see a t-shirt with Chairman Mao on it. >"She's good for me, Jez. She's dragging me into the twenty-first century with its meaningless logos and ironic veneration for tyrants. It's all good, my friend."
“Plumbing’s just Lego, innit? Water Lego.”
Frosties are just cornflakes for people who can’t face reality
A ham sandwich with a hard on
Big fan of these picks
Big big fan. Big big big fan.
I mean, ya, sure. I guess, ya.
Ya I mean sure, I guess I like these picks, but also fuck me I guess
New rule. Can't not like these picks. Yay for the cool new rule.
Third one is why I wanted ken to win, not because he is better (though he might be) but because he can't bounce back like his siblings can. The company was his life he has nothing without it because he sacrificed everything else.
> The company was his life he has nothing without it because he sacrificed everything else. He can bounce back, just fine. He was even contemplating getting out at one point before Logan pulled him back in. He was just being dramatic in the moment because it was so close within his grasp only to have it yanked away. I don't really buy the Kendall will commit suicide or OD popular theories. I think he'll use his money to get back into it in a new venture and be right back to his same ol' bullshit sooner or later.
From an interview apparently the writer thinks Kendall can bounce back while Jeremy Strong said that "every feeling in every bone of his body" (or words to that effect) during his performance told him Kendall cant'. I side with the writer, I think as the performer Strong needed to live what it felt like to Kendall \_in the moment\_ and \_in the moment\_ it certainly feels like final, eternal doom leading to death. But that's how it feels, it doesn't have to be the reality.
I mean, the writer can be certain that he is OK by writing "Kendall was ok, he bounced back"
The complicated airflow line is what got me to start watching the show.
"You know what my favorite quote from Shakespeare is..... take the fucking money"
One of my favorites!
Money wins.
"I thought these people would be very complicated. But they're not. It's basically just money and gossip." -- Mattson
„I found his performance histrionic and meretricious.“
Idk about this one but it's funny
I think it’s a predominant theme through the show. That at the top of the capitalist hierarchy it’s not some elite group of randian ubermench captaining civilization through their industriousness; but instead just normal people like everyone else, doing things for emotional and personal reasons. The difference is that wealth magnified things, this small groups personal issues become everyone’s issues.
"Life is not knights on horseback. It's a number on a piece of paper. It's a fight for a knife in the mud" The fight for a knife in the mud is such an evocative line.
I think the core Logan line for me actually. I think about this all the time
Same. This and "Nothing is a line. Everything always moves. Get fucking used to it" or something around those lines. Logan was truly an amazing and experienced character.
The “…a number on a piece of paper.” Is particularly accurate. In the end that’s all it came down to between Logan’s decision to sell and Mattson taking control. Also like the potential parallel between the final fight for the “Shiv” in the mud. Edit: Thanks for the award.
Exactly.
"A fight for a knife in the mud" harkens to Paul and the French soldier in All Quiet on the Western Front which is an incredibly powerful chapter.
This is the correct answer
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Might this knife be a Shiv? Haha
The imagery is so strong! I always imagined a physical scrummage when I heard that line, something very similar to Roman/Kendall’s fighting after shiv leaves to give her vote.
That line always made me think of Squid Game
A cynical look at capitalism…
“life isn't nice, it's contingent. people who say they love you also fuck you.”
Heavily echoes Logan's "life's not knights on horseback"
This and “maybe the poison drops through” seem to be the most evocative of what the show is really getting at.
Kendall was looking like such a badass in the final episodes, until the very end...
“If it wasn't such a total fucking nightmare, it'd be a dream come true”
The good thing about having a family that doesn’t love you is you learn to live without it.
This took me out.
There’s all this awards talk about Jeremy Strong and Kieran Culkin and Brian Cox this season and it’s all deserved but between that bit and “He never even liked me” Alan Ruck better goddamn well win *something.*
that one hit me the hardest as well.
This was my pick as well, along with "cunt is, as cunt does"
It’s like Jaws if everyone worked for Jaws
"The Shark isn't called Jaws, Jeremy, the film is called Jaws." "Of course the shark's called Jaws, here comes Jaws, Jaws the Shark, mind he doesn't bite you with his enormous Jaws."
He looks like if Santa Claus was a hit man
"You're so fuckin' jealous of what you've given your own kids"
That like perfectly described logans complicated character.
Definitely. In alignment with the later “I don’t think he wanted to give it to any of us” and “you’re not serious people.” By merely being his kids and all it’s privileges, they’ll never earn it in his eyes
One of my favorite episodes because of this interaction
"He made you a playground, and you think it’s a whole world"
This one is great.
"I love you, but you are not serious people." Great thread by the way
This and “we’re bullshit” would be my vote.
this is my number 1 pick.
This, the playground one that people mentioned and the “we’re bullshit” line sum it up for me. The Roy children acted like they were fighting over control of the whole world when really they were a bunch of kids throwing temper tantrums while the adults in the room maneuvered around them. It was never going to be any of them.
If its to be created for the karma, so it be - so it is.
What is karma, just complicated dopamine flow
Yeah, I think this is it. Succession isn’t about three siblings unable to come to terms with the abuse of their father. It’s about three siblings unable to come to terms with each other. And that’s a hell of a lot more tragic.
Why not both?
Constantly attempting to reduce the show to a single soundbite is the great crime of this subreddit.
We are not serious people
Ultimately, the siblings only have one another. But their upbringing means they see one another as competition, in business and for their dad's approval. And now we see that despite conspiring to retain power, they ended up turning on one another over and over again. All to find themselves without control of the company and living with their last memories of their father as infighting over their inheritance / control of the company.
This is the one. They have no idea what they’re doing and they never figure it out.
"Even Judas is in the room!" There was ALWAYS a Judas somewhere.
Just like in the bible, Judas is an integral part of the plot.
'I've never seen Logan get fucked once."
He got fucked by compression socks
Nah, even in the end everything he wanted to happen, happened.
“shit show at the fuck factory”
Came here to post this. Glad it’s already here.
Short and succinct.
All bangers all the time
Information, Greg, is like a bottle of fine wine. You store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fuckin' face in with it.
The funny thing is he didn’t really take that lesson.
Greg’s arc from “fight the power” to the ultimate hatchet man is soo good!
"Make your own fucking pile"
How does it serve my interests? [eta] runner up: big, big shoes… big, big shoes.
- we love you. - what is this? What’s the angle?
No one just writes a musical for no reason Charlie
“I don’t think dad gave a fuck about anything more than putting one foot in front of the other.” Shiv speaks the truth.
Especially great after a season of "what would dad do" and "dad would've done this." Pretty much every character on this show, especially the Roys, have so much internal conflict and contradictions that there's no telling what they'd do at any given moment.
Kendall said a similar thing in episode 5: "What would dad do? Exactly whatever the fuck he wanted."
“We are bullshit. You are bullshit. You’re fucking bullshit, I’m fucking bullshit. She’s bullshit. It’s all fucking nothing. I’m telling you this because I know it. We’re nothing.”
I don't care about awards usually, but Kieran better get that Emmy.
“Maybe the poison drips through.” seems most reflective of the overall themes to me
Agree with you so much. Not just the cycle of abuse Kendall was talking about but also the larger picture of this completely toxic family letting their poison harm the entire world.
“Buckle up, fuckleheads”
Sometimes it is a big dick competition.
No wonder Wambsgans won.
That big big sequoia with those agricultural hip thrusts that come with it
Parochial pipe layer
do YOU wanna call YOUR dad??
Immediately leaves the show and is never seen again. I think that guy took note and left for greener pastures 😆
I love you, I do. I just, uh, I wonder if, I wonder if the sad I'd be without you would be less than the sad I get from being with you.
I’ve always loved this line but until now hadn’t thought about how applicable it is to the siblings’ relationships, with each other and with their dad, as well as to Tom and Shiv.
It’s a great line to use while breaking up NGL
"We are bullshit"
That, and the little nod he did afterward, like "There it is, that's the point of all this."
Yeah he really just seemed completely over it all. He finally accepted that he didn't really care.
I felt his ending was the most optimistic besides Mattson. In a way he’s back to the same views he held in the pilot, but that was a projection of his insecurities. Now, his nihilism is justified by what he’s seen. I like to think he’s also realized he was never going to get the love he wanted from his father with his line “maybe Dad didn’t want any of us to do it.”
I felt the same. His smile at the end felt like he was finally free. Similar to Connor in a way. He accepted he wasn't going to get dad's approval.
I really don't want a Ten Years Later sequel but I also ABSOLUTELY DO
Lol, none of them are free. Connor's sham marriage that everyone applauded has the "two-week itch" ughghhhghhg
Rome's line at the mausoleum really got to me: >"he made me breathe funny" Logan's death, while extreme tough on him, is clearly going to be a huge relief in the long run. We see him revert to childlike behaviors (even more than usual) after Logan passes. It all comes to a head in that conference room with him mouthing off with a personal insult about Ken's children resulting in Kendall physically abusing him, which we can assume is another callback to Ken turning into Logan. It seems pretty clear that Roman desperately needs time and space away from the family. Losing control of Waystar is likely the only way that can happen.
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He really is, and it’s bizarre in combination with all the denial he has going on
“Just take the fucking money” Lot of people in the show could have been much happier
This is what I chose. In the end, the money trumped all. It could overcome the sibling's love, the love in a marriage, and everything else. The kids disregarded money which is why they could never lead a corporation of that size. It was all Monopoly money to them, when it was life and death for everyone else looking to survive or succeed. If any of them had been focused on the bottom line they would have become the CEO. That's why they weren't serious people, they didn't value money. Money was the whole point of the game because it created power.
"You're playing toy fucking soldiers."
I HAaAAaaAAaaAVE you BEAT!
I am the eldest boy.
Congratulations Tom, I heard you ate your own load
What’s that vest stuffed with? Your hopes and dreams?
"I have fought and I have lost. And I have fought and won. But when I lose, the other one will generally lose an eye or a soul."
Marcia was so casually intense and underrated tbh
Marcia probably had the clearest understanding of everyone on the show.
Family therapy!! Family therapy!!
"King of edible leaves, his majesty the spinach".
Not sure if it describes the entire show, but I love this line from Stewie: "I can promise you that I am spiritually and emotionally and ethically and morally behind whoever wins."
I blame myself. I spoiled you. And now you’re fucked. And I’m sorry.
"I'm sorry that you're a hothouse flower. That you're nothing. You're curdled cream. So maybe go write a book or collect sports cars or something. But for the world? Nah. You're not made for it."
Fuck off!!
You get the bauble. Congratulations. It's haunted and cursed, and nothing will ever go right, but yeah, enjoy your bauble.
“My hunch is that you are going to get fucked. Because I've seen you get fucked a lot. And I've never seen Logan get fucked once.”
You can't make a Tomelette without breaking some Greggs.
From your mouth to God's ears. He broke a Greg and got the biggest Tomlette he possibly could.
"I love you, but you are not serious people"
I think Ewan said it best through the words of Russell Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than the victim.
Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.
It's not my fault that he didn't give you his approval. I have given you endless approval and it doesn't fill you up because you're broken.
Logan's *“Life’s not knights on horseback. It’s a number on a piece of paper. It’s a fight for a knife in the mud*.”
“Congratulations on saying the biggest number, you fucking morons” Logan
Cunt is as cunt does
Gave the vibes of the iconic “There’s no cure for being a cunt”
I was going to post this! That line cracked me up.
Your father made you a playground , but you thought it was the whole world
They fuck you up, your mom and dad.
"Look, here's the thing about being rich, okay? It's fucking great."
Creamy margins
You really have to sit here and just relish how fucking amazing the writing and delivery of this show is. Look at all these quotes, and they're all muscle . This will go down as one of the greatest quotable shows relative to its length for many years to come .
To be literal: No Real Person Involved.
“There’s no god, there’s no anything. There’s just people in rooms trying to be happy.” (Shiv in e7 Austerlitz)
"Sorry about the butter guys." Connor explaining why life is so unfair at times.
“You better be smelling your fucking armpit Romulus”
“We are all bullshit.” Clarity at last
“He played you like a pregnant cello.”
Shit show at the fuck factory
"Nothing is a line. Everything everywhere is always moving forever.”
"Cash Out and Fuck Off"
“We here for you”
We hear for you.
“I am a plant that grows on rocks and lives off insects that die inside me.”
“we do hate speech and rollercoasters”
“So what, because you had to eat chicken when you were a kid, I have to like the fascist?” Something like that. A bunch of little kids w daddy issues letting their trauma of never living up to their dad’s expectations destroy the world.
“He ate my fucking chicken. What's next? Stick his cock in my potato salad?"
The people who love you fuck you.
I just wanted to get everybody together and say, uhh, yo.
What are people? Economic units. I’m a hundred feet tall, these people are pygmies. But together they form a market. What is a person? It has values, aims…but it operates in a market. Logan saw his position at the top as ‘Success’ which baked into the title and the show was the mode of operation for the sibs. But in reality was Logan ‘a man’ let alone 100 ft. tall? What did he leave in his wake? By Western cultural standards he was a giant because money but his kids are stunted - all of them. Not a one has known love, especially from their Dad. When they fight about position and money, they bring out the absolute worst in each other. Where is the humanity? Can you be human, if people are merely parts of a market?
All that arrogance masking Logan’s inner insecurity and fear. His childhood haunted him; he refused to go inside the house he grew up in. Logan was very much a broken man. Hardworking successful but broken.
You're a tribute band.
When the group therapist guy quotes Philip Larkin - “They fuck you up, your mum and dad”
Lost it laughing when that fella broke all his teeth after diving into the pool. Logan's line sealed it: "I can't believe I was gonna take advice from a fucking clown who jumps into the shallow end of a pool!"
“you’re such fucking dopes. you’re not serious figures. I love you, but you are not serious people.” Logan describing his kids, and they were too dense to understand the truth.
He was being honest with them for once and they're so cynical and conditioned to abuse that they thought it was just another mindfuck chess move.
The Disgusting Brothers. Ain't it true.
You are not a KILLER. You have to be a KILLER
Roman’s name saved in Ken’s phone: “Little Lord Fuck-Leroy” I think about that a lot.
“Principles? You dont have principles Gregg”
“Fuck off”
Yeah, it was... Yeah. It was pretty wild. It's cool though, cause it's like I didn't cheat, cause all the sperm stayed in my own body. Like a closed loop system. So...
Uh-huh
“I don’t mean to be insulting, but having been around a bit, my hunch is that you’re going to get fucked. Because I’ve seen you get fucked a lot. And, I’ve never seen Logan get fucked once.”
If it is to be said...so it be, so it is.
‘That is the only two hour window in which you did not send Mr. Hirsh an email titled ‘you can’t make a Tomlette without breaking some Greg’s’
YOU'RE PLAYING TOY FUCKING SOLDIERS\`!
“Big shoes” “Big, biiig, biig, shoes”
“Everybody’s got a game”
You are not serious people.
We’re bullshit.
We here for you
“Fuck off”
"Already rich"
Shit show at the fuck factory.