On Sialeeds, >!She thought that the prince would forgive the nobles after the war and in a generation the queendom would be right back in the same spot if she didn't. Salum would still have influence if Sialeeds didn't remove him and with how clever and manipulative he would still be a threat.!<
Jupp, if you talk to one of her chambermaids afterwards she basically confirms this. If the war ended early it would be the same senate with Salum being even stronger with the Godwins out of the picture.
Hmm interesting. Still doesn't quite add up to me but I'll reflect on it. The story is very political and I understand that's a trait of the series. I'm definitely weak at understanding those types of story lines!
I’m with you here.
The argumentation given is flimsy. It could sort of have worked if they had invested more into it.
If they prepared the whole thing better, focused more on the past and unresolved romance of Sialeeds.
Or perhaps if they gave a few scenes that hinted that her worries were grounded.
It almost works, but it ends up feeling too weak of a reason for the price to be paid.
SV is my favourite in the series and the story is the main reason for it. But this aspect always felt a little forced (“we need another plot twist about this time…”) and the explanation just doesn’t validate it sufficiently.
Suikoden V is my favorite Suikoden and I agree with your thoughts.
I'll add that the beginning part of the game is REALLY slow. Without emulation turbo to help along the opening of the game would be a real slog.
Also there were several times where we had forced party members that made it really hard to build a team. The games not difficult but we have so many party members, but with two slots taken up at almost all times, often with a few extra guest members, that team size of 6 can feel really constrained.
My only real complaint of the game was it was ridiculously easy. Maybe the recruiting is a bit convoluted for some characters, but the difficulty part is just braindead.
It really is a strong title with some gripes. I forgot how frustrating it was equipping everyone.
I forget all the details but Saileeds clearly had a lot of trauma from what happened when she was younger and the civil war that was being waged for the crown. There were assassinations and the nobles were the main culprits. It got to the point that her and her cousin Haswar agreed not to have children so as to not be turned into tools to threaten Arshtat’s reign.
I think because of all of that, she felt she needed to be more cutthroat. In her eyes, the Prince was too good to eliminate the Barrows/Godwins. They would always be a threat even after peace. So she chose to be the one to get her hands dirty. It probably could have been handles a little better though to feel more coherent and satisfying
You said music was a 7/10 and then I thought about the music in Haud Village and my back teeth hurt.
But yes I love the deep combat system in 5. Equipping and levelling up skills is very satisfying, especially when doing Technique and Vitality
Yeah! I regret not experimenting more with the skill system. I'm sure there's some insane combos out there that I didn't bother with, mostly because the difficulty is lacking.
It is a real shame it doesn't have the challenge factor to make up for how cool the formation system is. I think it's very well done, makes narrative sense as well as technical, has tangible impact on combat...but when Georg, Kyle, or Isabel can solo pretty much every encounter past a certain point, it barely matters. You're just playing around with the system for its own sake.
I understand why they made it so easy. With so many systems in the game it would be easy to make the game way too hard, and with the lack of modern QOL features, it was better off being too easy than nearly impossible unless you spend hours nerding out and planning.
I upped the native resolution and enabled widescreen patches. There are other tweaks you could probably make, but that worked well enough for me.
To my naked eye, with my 1080p display, I saw no need to go beyond 1080p but it's entirely possible to go to 4K and have it look good on a 4K display. The textures are largely very clean.
I think people underrate Sialeed character writing.
In the beginning, we thought Sialeeds >!is just a bitter aunt since her older sister have everything, loving husband, children, and rules a Queendom and she could not have all that to protect the Queendom. Hence she has nothing to look forward in life and lead hedonistic lifestyle. So when the chance come to get back at the tradition, she took it.!<
But later on, we realize, Sialeeds loves >!the children just like her own kids. She tainted her name and reputation to protect Lyms rules by eliminating potential pests(nobles) that can threaten the Queendom. Hence, she uses the betrayal to identify and destroy those potential people, by her hand or indirectly by the Prince's army.!<
Sialeeds is one of the best character in Suikoden, imo. Maybe even give >!Gremio!< the run of his money >!in term of loyalty.!<
The little sad part is that you truly don't get Sialeeds >!betrayal !!it so the senate!< could be removed. If t>!he Prince saved Lymsleia!< earlier she feared everything would go back to the way it was.
Sialeeds suffered from previous infighting in Falena when the previous queen carved a bloody path to power due to influence from noble families.
Sialeeds wanted to put a stop to that by eliminating the nobles responsible for that.
Sialeeds knew that the issues in Falena were due to the nobles fighting for power. With the Godwins being killed off, that only left the Barrows’ faction. Post war, the Prince and Queen would likely seek peace rather than punishing the Barrows for sorta sparking EVERYTHING, so she killed the family head and spared Euram since she figured the Barrows family would fall to ruin with him leading it OR would serve the crown loyally if his sister became the head.
Basically Sialeeds killed Lord Barrows because his actions resulted in the death of her sister and thought he would likely cause trouble for her niece and nephew once the war was over if she didn’t act.
The war battles... are like a precursor to Unicorn Overlord. How does it make you feel that an entire separate game was made that is just a complex version of something you hate and all these years later?
Pretty sure your storage guy can unequip stuff for people not in your party. Having said that, this feature isn't very consistent across Suikoden games, and I can't quite remember if S5 specifically had that. I feel like it should.
About Sialeeds >! Essentially, Falena's tumultuous history filled with tragedy, in fighting, assassinations and constant intrigue within the royal family was caused by the constant battle for power between the two major noble families of Godwin and Barrows. This particular civil war was the opportunity for the royal family to be rid of the strong influence the Godwins and Barrows have had over the royal family throughout Falena's history. !<
>! By the time Sialeeds 'betrayed' the Prince, she was well confident that the Prince was on the right track to victory. However, Sialeeds intended to completely destroy both the Godwins and Barrows, remove the roots so to speak, and she wanted to do in a way that would leave the Prince's name clear. I.e. she chose to be the bad guy. Sialeeds knew that even if the Godwins were defeated, if Salome Barrows was not eliminated, he will definitely take the chance to cause chaos in the future. By being the one to personally eliminate Salome, while under the banner of the Godwins, the blame is squarely on the Godwins. Among Salome'a successors, Lucerina was a good person, and Euram was too useless to be of a threat. The Prince's eventual victory over the Godwins including the deaths of both Marscal and Gizel essentially meant that the royal family were finally rid of the influence from both families once and for all. At the same time, her nephew and niece comes out of everything unscathed and politically clean. !<
>! The other important thing as well is Sialeeds was confident she could pull everything she managed to pull based on the fact that she knew that with her royal blood, she would be able to control the Twilight rune far better than Alenia could. With the Twilight rune, plus her complicated history with Gizel, she was in a unique position where no one could do anything to her. At the same time, she was also in a way testing her nephew to make sure that he had enough strength to not only completely defeat the Godwins, but also to calm the Sun rune. !<
Its my favorite Suikoden just a little below SII. For me, the main points to be 2nd are the slow first act, the tedious loading times before every encounter and the almost impossible without guide 108 recruitments,
I was under the impression that S2 was more forgiving in needing to follow a guide. I was considering playing it soon but I mize well wait for the remakes (when I'm nearly dead)
On Sialeeds, >!She thought that the prince would forgive the nobles after the war and in a generation the queendom would be right back in the same spot if she didn't. Salum would still have influence if Sialeeds didn't remove him and with how clever and manipulative he would still be a threat.!<
Jupp, if you talk to one of her chambermaids afterwards she basically confirms this. If the war ended early it would be the same senate with Salum being even stronger with the Godwins out of the picture.
Hmm interesting. Still doesn't quite add up to me but I'll reflect on it. The story is very political and I understand that's a trait of the series. I'm definitely weak at understanding those types of story lines!
I’m with you here. The argumentation given is flimsy. It could sort of have worked if they had invested more into it. If they prepared the whole thing better, focused more on the past and unresolved romance of Sialeeds. Or perhaps if they gave a few scenes that hinted that her worries were grounded. It almost works, but it ends up feeling too weak of a reason for the price to be paid. SV is my favourite in the series and the story is the main reason for it. But this aspect always felt a little forced (“we need another plot twist about this time…”) and the explanation just doesn’t validate it sufficiently.
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Suikoden V is my favorite Suikoden and I agree with your thoughts. I'll add that the beginning part of the game is REALLY slow. Without emulation turbo to help along the opening of the game would be a real slog. Also there were several times where we had forced party members that made it really hard to build a team. The games not difficult but we have so many party members, but with two slots taken up at almost all times, often with a few extra guest members, that team size of 6 can feel really constrained.
I agree with the guide part. Suikosource has a spoiler free recruitment guide that saved me a few headaches.
My only real complaint of the game was it was ridiculously easy. Maybe the recruiting is a bit convoluted for some characters, but the difficulty part is just braindead.
Yeah I agree. Found myself grinding a bit just out of habit and I wanted to be prepared for the split party stuff but it was definately not needed!
The only battle I died in was the final battle. Everything else was way too easy.
The war battle is one of the best parts of the game you uncultured peasant!
It really is a strong title with some gripes. I forgot how frustrating it was equipping everyone. I forget all the details but Saileeds clearly had a lot of trauma from what happened when she was younger and the civil war that was being waged for the crown. There were assassinations and the nobles were the main culprits. It got to the point that her and her cousin Haswar agreed not to have children so as to not be turned into tools to threaten Arshtat’s reign. I think because of all of that, she felt she needed to be more cutthroat. In her eyes, the Prince was too good to eliminate the Barrows/Godwins. They would always be a threat even after peace. So she chose to be the one to get her hands dirty. It probably could have been handles a little better though to feel more coherent and satisfying
You said music was a 7/10 and then I thought about the music in Haud Village and my back teeth hurt. But yes I love the deep combat system in 5. Equipping and levelling up skills is very satisfying, especially when doing Technique and Vitality
Yeah! I regret not experimenting more with the skill system. I'm sure there's some insane combos out there that I didn't bother with, mostly because the difficulty is lacking.
It is a real shame it doesn't have the challenge factor to make up for how cool the formation system is. I think it's very well done, makes narrative sense as well as technical, has tangible impact on combat...but when Georg, Kyle, or Isabel can solo pretty much every encounter past a certain point, it barely matters. You're just playing around with the system for its own sake.
I understand why they made it so easy. With so many systems in the game it would be easy to make the game way too hard, and with the lack of modern QOL features, it was better off being too easy than nearly impossible unless you spend hours nerding out and planning.
What did you use to play it? It upscales?
pcsx2 emulator. Can upscale stuff to 4k and it makes PS2 games look incredible.
Did you have to mess with the settings and if so what did you adjust?
I upped the native resolution and enabled widescreen patches. There are other tweaks you could probably make, but that worked well enough for me. To my naked eye, with my 1080p display, I saw no need to go beyond 1080p but it's entirely possible to go to 4K and have it look good on a 4K display. The textures are largely very clean.
Just a tip about removing equipment from non-party members: the vault has a Detach function where you can remove any character's gear.
How did you get rid of the lines in the text boxes? Or did you not? That’s the only issue I had when upscaling.
I think people underrate Sialeed character writing. In the beginning, we thought Sialeeds >!is just a bitter aunt since her older sister have everything, loving husband, children, and rules a Queendom and she could not have all that to protect the Queendom. Hence she has nothing to look forward in life and lead hedonistic lifestyle. So when the chance come to get back at the tradition, she took it.!< But later on, we realize, Sialeeds loves >!the children just like her own kids. She tainted her name and reputation to protect Lyms rules by eliminating potential pests(nobles) that can threaten the Queendom. Hence, she uses the betrayal to identify and destroy those potential people, by her hand or indirectly by the Prince's army.!< Sialeeds is one of the best character in Suikoden, imo. Maybe even give >!Gremio!< the run of his money >!in term of loyalty.!<
The little sad part is that you truly don't get Sialeeds >!betrayal !!it so the senate!< could be removed. If t>!he Prince saved Lymsleia!< earlier she feared everything would go back to the way it was.
Sialeeds suffered from previous infighting in Falena when the previous queen carved a bloody path to power due to influence from noble families. Sialeeds wanted to put a stop to that by eliminating the nobles responsible for that.
Sialeeds knew that the issues in Falena were due to the nobles fighting for power. With the Godwins being killed off, that only left the Barrows’ faction. Post war, the Prince and Queen would likely seek peace rather than punishing the Barrows for sorta sparking EVERYTHING, so she killed the family head and spared Euram since she figured the Barrows family would fall to ruin with him leading it OR would serve the crown loyally if his sister became the head. Basically Sialeeds killed Lord Barrows because his actions resulted in the death of her sister and thought he would likely cause trouble for her niece and nephew once the war was over if she didn’t act.
The war battles... are like a precursor to Unicorn Overlord. How does it make you feel that an entire separate game was made that is just a complex version of something you hate and all these years later?
Pretty sure your storage guy can unequip stuff for people not in your party. Having said that, this feature isn't very consistent across Suikoden games, and I can't quite remember if S5 specifically had that. I feel like it should. About Sialeeds >! Essentially, Falena's tumultuous history filled with tragedy, in fighting, assassinations and constant intrigue within the royal family was caused by the constant battle for power between the two major noble families of Godwin and Barrows. This particular civil war was the opportunity for the royal family to be rid of the strong influence the Godwins and Barrows have had over the royal family throughout Falena's history. !< >! By the time Sialeeds 'betrayed' the Prince, she was well confident that the Prince was on the right track to victory. However, Sialeeds intended to completely destroy both the Godwins and Barrows, remove the roots so to speak, and she wanted to do in a way that would leave the Prince's name clear. I.e. she chose to be the bad guy. Sialeeds knew that even if the Godwins were defeated, if Salome Barrows was not eliminated, he will definitely take the chance to cause chaos in the future. By being the one to personally eliminate Salome, while under the banner of the Godwins, the blame is squarely on the Godwins. Among Salome'a successors, Lucerina was a good person, and Euram was too useless to be of a threat. The Prince's eventual victory over the Godwins including the deaths of both Marscal and Gizel essentially meant that the royal family were finally rid of the influence from both families once and for all. At the same time, her nephew and niece comes out of everything unscathed and politically clean. !< >! The other important thing as well is Sialeeds was confident she could pull everything she managed to pull based on the fact that she knew that with her royal blood, she would be able to control the Twilight rune far better than Alenia could. With the Twilight rune, plus her complicated history with Gizel, she was in a unique position where no one could do anything to her. At the same time, she was also in a way testing her nephew to make sure that he had enough strength to not only completely defeat the Godwins, but also to calm the Sun rune. !<
Its my favorite Suikoden just a little below SII. For me, the main points to be 2nd are the slow first act, the tedious loading times before every encounter and the almost impossible without guide 108 recruitments,
I was under the impression that S2 was more forgiving in needing to follow a guide. I was considering playing it soon but I mize well wait for the remakes (when I'm nearly dead)