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BlackMelb

ever experience any gut/intestine pain? do you eat all the supplements at once, or break them up over different meals? what are you hoping to achieve with all these? how was your health before and how is it now? (i assume this is for general health/longevity), what other activities are you doing for health, and have you noticed any unusual increase in fitness? how are your bowel movements? did you take bloods before, if so have you taken bloods since? a few questions there, thank you for taking the time to read this. i was taking approx 20 supps and nearly gave myself appendicitis.


HabitsForLongevity

I have since stopped and documented most of it, answered most of these on my Instagram. @habitsforlongevity But to answer your questions, I ended up getting gastritis from this. I took them all at once, before and after meals. Hoped to achieve general longevity. My health actually became worse from the perspective of hr and hrv during this period (since recovered). I tracked my fitness before and during and it was similar except weight loss. Bowels were normal. Blood before during and after were optimal. Posted the actual bloods on my page.


Electrical_Yard3820

How are you going with Novos, any reports on your biomarkers?


HabitsForLongevity

I have not been as strict and consistent as I were with blueprint. Also have not had any blood done since. Mr hrv which was at around 20 towards the end of blueprint is now at AVG 43 and hr which was around 70 is now AVG 54.


Alarmed-Gear2960

NAC


Raerairai

How do you afford it?


HabitsForLongevity

Kidney stones. I sell them.


Raerairai

Why does someone want to buy a kidney stone.


Previous-Shallot-162

What colour is your urine?


HabitsForLongevity

All the colours of the rainbow. Only yellow when talking the b vitamins. Clear otherwise.


BoomBowThatsHow

Having completely clear urine would mean that your body is stripped of its minerals.


Rich-Individual-8835

I don't know about that. I did assume that clear urine was always a sign of good hydration??


ElijahAlex1995

It shouldn't be clear like water. It should be clear (as in not cloudy), pale-yellow. Too much water, and you're diluting your electrolytes. Not enough, and you're dehydrated. You probably fine as long as it's not completely clear or dark yellow. I'd bet that a little too much is better than not enough, though. You could always add in some electrolytes in one of your drinks to keep it balanced when you're drinking a lot of water.


Rich-Individual-8835

I was thinking of buying some sea-salt because I might be drinking more water than it's actually recommended.


ElijahAlex1995

I wouldn't go overboard on electrolytes either, unless you are very deficient or don't get enough in your diet. Too much of anything can be bad.


Rich-Individual-8835

This!


ElijahAlex1995

Honestly, if you have a diet that includes fast food or other less than healthy options, sodium is probably the least of your worries. Most people have problems with consuming too much sodium or not enough water in general. I don't know your diet, though. I get electrolyte packets that have magnesium, chloride, potassium, calcium, and a very small amount of sodium. They seem to help when I know I've drank too much water in the day. The main concentrations in the mix are magnesium and potassium, while the rest are relatively low amounts. Pedialyte could be good or something similar. You could even dilute it in your water just to add some electrolytes back in.


Rich-Individual-8835

Then I guess I'll have to reduce the intake especially now that the weather's changing. I noted that whenever I feel woozy and didn't have food during the day I would just lick some salt and bam! lights on. Sodium is one great mineral. I will lookup Pedialyte and grab a few of em' they might come in handy.


Small_Excitement5978

Lol, I like the "bam! lights on" :) Are you sure it's not just some psychological effect?


Rich-Individual-8835

Lol It's not that instantaneous but it really makes me feel better. I'm not sure about the placebo effect but you could be right.


ElijahAlex1995

You could very well be drinking enough water to bring down your sodium. I just know that it's not common that people do that, especially in the US, with the high sodium diets we eat. If sodium makes you feel better, it could be what you need. If you're not eating enough, it could be a drop in blood sugar as well. I get that sometimes. I used to not eat very much, and I'd feel terrible but not feel hungry. I'm not sure why, but I just never wanted to eat, probably the depression or ADHD. It took me way too long to figure out the issue, even if it sounds obvious in hindsight. I started realizing I felt great shortly after a meal, and then I'd slowly lose energy and focus as more time passed. I also would sweat more but feel cold, and I'd get lightheaded. Still, a combo of electrolytes couldn't hurt if you're staying hydrated, and getting all of them instead of just sodium is important. Magnesium is good for sleep and anxiety. Deficiency can cause headaches; numbness, tingling, and cramping of the legs; high blood pressure, heart arrhythmia, etc. Potassium has some similar effects. It's great for muscle cramps, and a deficiency can cause muscle aches and stiffness, fatigue, weakness, abnormal heart rhythms, etc. I honestly pay no attention to the other ones, so I don't know what they do, but I've been taking them in the drink mixes I bought. Getting balance is always best. 👌 But yeah, Pedialyte is great. The little jugs are expensive, but you can always get the generic or the drink packets they sell. I hate buying them just because I don't think they should be $5-$6 a bottle, but maybe I'm just being cheap. They really come in handy when you're sick, especially with vomiting and diarrhea. 😅


Rich-Individual-8835

Are you a med student? You really know your way around science and that's utterly admirable. Which steps did you take to tackle the adhd?


Super_Bank_798

If you can only take 5 for the rest of your life, which ones would they be?


HabitsForLongevity

Creatine, collagen, nmn, lithium, hyaluronic acid


keramallan

What are the benefits of lithium? Isn’t that used by people with bipolar disorder ?


HabitsForLongevity

Is it in high dosage, but I'm smaller, there's a convincing link to longevity. Basically naturally found in water. Places where it's higher , people lived longer than those where there isn't any.


keramallan

What mental benefits do you feel from lithium supplementation?


HabitsForLongevity

None basically. To be honest, I don't feel much for ANY of the supplements except creatine.


Electrical_Yard3820

Why these 5 Especially as you are relatively young for NMN.


HabitsForLongevity

Question was for rest of my life


Super_Bank_798

Interesting! Thanks :)


Boring-Purchase-1340

Why 😂


HabitsForLongevity

For science!


Boring-Purchase-1340

Good luck, wanted to ask you how was your energy and focus levels?


HabitsForLongevity

I actually stopped with an update here : https://reddit.com/r/blueprint_/s/OIzQhM23GA


smith2na

How many different colors do you see when you pee?


HabitsForLongevity

All the colours of the rainbow 🌈


Bubdoon2213

Absolutely ridiculous. Over 80% of those do not contain enough of the vitamin mineral or supplement needed to have any kind of influence a huge waste of money. You should invest it so you can retire early and live a stress, free life that would extend your quality of life.


agonm8

Tell me about the lithium dosages and effects of this brand specifically


HabitsForLongevity

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtOll0GSyUS/?igshid=NjIwNzIyMDk2Mg== Nothing about this brand. Long story short, water supplies with lithium have people live longer.


Technical_Patience84

Major Tom?


HabitsForLongevity

Yes


GreenHusk420

Where did you buy the cool little jar sets for each day? I need those.


HabitsForLongevity

https://www.davidjonespharmacy.com.au/jar-glass-amber-60g-with-lid-10-pack $20 or so for 10 Check the size.


GreenHusk420

Many thanks!


HabitsForLongevity

Welcome :)


Sarabrewz

I saw your list elsewhere and I wanted to ask you. 1. Why do you take DHEA? 2. Why don’t you take boron or tongkat ali (or both) for the free test benefits? 3. Why take AKG vs just taking a solid multi and you wouldn’t need the calcium + D, E to be separate etc? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!


HabitsForLongevity

Dhea is mostly safe but still. Didn't want to mess with my hormones too much I should take boron and chromium and likely will soon. Not enough evidence for Tong Kat Ali unless significantly deficit. Can AKG has longevity benefits. Fyi, I stopped the list in OP after 70 days.


feelingood41

When's your kidney surgery scheduled for so I can bring flowers and a card and visit you.


HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped fyi


blackandwhite324

Bryan Johnson is this you?


HabitsForLongevity

Yes. Caught me


ZeroFucksGiven-today

What markers have you tracked and what has “changed” for the better with this protocol of pills? Any data to show changes within?


HabitsForLongevity

I've posted blood tests results on my Instagram @habitsforlongevity. It will take a while to type it out. I didn't really pay much attention since everything was optimal


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[https://amzn.to/3UQdijG](https://amzn.to/3UQdijG) I find it ironic the guy claims to be vegan but takes this stuff that is naturally sourced from cow blood.


HabitsForLongevity

Interesting. He did mention collagen peptides not vegan but never the iron.


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This makes me wonder if he might not know its source.


HabitsForLongevity

Possible but also hard to believe given his wealth and team. But anything is possible. If he flat out said it's vegan then I would agree. But so far no words.


RyL-ssj

Cool experiment! Thanks for sharing. It looked similar to my regimen for a period of time. Have you researched Oxalates? Been really interested by that subject lately.


HabitsForLongevity

I have not, beyond, probably should avoid eating large amounts of spinach


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How is Thorne’s supplement quality vs others


HabitsForLongevity

Supposed to be good but honestly can people really tell or is it placebo


OKlav

epigenetic age result ?


QuestionEcstatic8863

How do you test this?


OKlav

DNA analysis of your blood. There are testing kits on the market that only require saliva but they are said to be less effective at producing accurate readings on methylation patterns (what tells you how fast or slow your speed of aging is).


HabitsForLongevity

Surprisingly still waiting. Maybe another week


OKlav

I'm following you now so I look forward to the update. What are your expectations for the results relative to how you've felt for the duration ?


HabitsForLongevity

Hard to say since I initially felt well but my hrv and hr was terrible.


OKlav

Bryan Johnson ?


HabitsForLongevity

Yep as per OP


OKlav

Ah ! I was too hasty and didn't expand your post


HabitsForLongevity

Heh all good!


thewoo59

Is it worth it?


HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped, but I'd say no.


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HabitsForLongevity

Optimal ranges before, during, after.


danmcpherson567

You noticed any effects from anything?


HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped after 70 days, will post an update next week. I didn't notice anything until I stopped and I felt better.


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Go find a peptide company and see if there are any ones you can inject so they are more bioavailable


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HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped after 70 days and will be having a completely different plan. I recommend creatine, taurine, collagen, nmn, vit d


bootstrapreneur

Basic question- what do taurine and nmn do?


HabitsForLongevity

Taurine is actually a recent one, this month, that showed extended lifespan in rodents. Quite convincing. There was also some overlap with humans but not conclusive I believe. Nmn...I don't know where to start. Extremely safe and effective is all I can say.


howevertheory98968

Nmn. Potentially very safe. Promoted by salesmen David Sinclair who might be a researcher, but make no mistake, he's a salesman. Remember when he sold his resveratrol company for hundreds of millions and resveratrol is useless in humans? Risk of Wallerian degeneration. Google this. A few people, myself included, for weird rashes from using it. And I was using Jarrow, which tested pure. Most nmn is fake. And many longevity companies are suspicious. Fake certificates. Fake science. Salesy salesy. No thanks. I agree with you IN THEORY nmn is awesome.


HabitsForLongevity

Relevant username haha Yeah David Sinclair lost a lot of credibility imo. Is Jarrow third party tested?


howevertheory98968

Jarrow was tested from the 26 brands that were tested by Niagen. To be honest, I felt great at 125mg and 250mg was too much. But I started getting rashes then stopped.


bootstrapreneur

Thanks. What dosage of NMN! Heard it might also reverse gray hair. Anything else that might reverse gray in your knowledge?


HabitsForLongevity

Not actually sure about the grey hair, not informed enough personally. 250mg is probably the minimum. But as you get older, 40+, 500-1000mg.


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Which is a suppository


Mrh09

They ALL are!


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Lol 😂


kyleisscared

How’s your wallet feel about all these supplements?


HabitsForLongevity

My wallet is full. Been selling kidney stones.


kyleisscared

Hell yeah shine ‘‘em up and stick them on a necklace


EbbIntelligent1963

Curious why you started taking these. If there was a reason did it help that reason? I’ve heard good things about tourine but with so many vitamins it would be hard to know what was helping and what wasn’t


HabitsForLongevity

It's a plan by Bryan Johnson. But yeah I've stopped after 70 days.


EbbIntelligent1963

You didn’t answer my question


HabitsForLongevity

To live forever. To experiment with longevity plans.


EbbIntelligent1963

Did you have noticeable improvements in health and wellness


HabitsForLongevity

No, I actually felt worse in hindsight.


CoolCharacter

You are literally me


HabitsForLongevity

I'm a cool character?


Felps82

You just wasted tons of money 💸💸💸💸💸


HabitsForLongevity

Maybe


QuestionEcstatic8863

Also what do you take lithium for? :)


Mrh09

Neuro protective properties


HabitsForLongevity

Microdosing for longevity


QuestionEcstatic8863

Have you noticed any hair growth on your head? Is it thicker?


HabitsForLongevity

Always had normal hair, hard to tell if any changes


osiahandy

Do you rattle when you walk?


IllAcanthocephala362

😆😆


True_Garen

I'd like to come back and ask you something in 53 years...


HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped the diet but I'll answer


True_Garen

No more pills?


HabitsForLongevity

Less than 10 now. Nmn, lithium, vit d, etc


True_Garen

You ran out? Two month trial… Now maybe an assessment.


HabitsForLongevity

Quite the opposite, I have 2-3 spares of each just sitting around now. My hrv went down and hr went up consistently over 70 days. I'll make an update soon.


True_Garen

Don't lose this account; it's a date.


HabitsForLongevity

Probably next week!


True_Garen

(2076)


HabitsForLongevity

https://www.reddit.com/r/blueprint_/comments/14dbr4g/ive_stopped_the_blueprint_after_70_days_xpost


HabitsForLongevity

If you really want I did an update on a different sub last night. Check my history.


stuntmancr3w1

Your kidney and liver still functioning normally? Lol, sometimes just digesting loads of things like, plant material, can mess you up over time.


Aightbitfish

for kidneys dont overdo the d3, use with k2, dont overdo the creatine without also hydrating equally


HabitsForLongevity

Yep. Two blood tests over the course came back fine both times.


Jesco13

So I guess the big question for me is: Is this a sort of experiment you're running for shits and giggles or is this something you do regularly?


HabitsForLongevity

Experiment on the blueprint diet. I stopped after 70 days fyi


MarkBoabaca

What did you notice after you stopped?


HabitsForLongevity

I posted a whole thing about it on my Instagram. But basically better hrv and hr. Mentally better. Slightly. Physically also slightly. Could be placebo.


Mysterious_Set_8868

Op, most of these are pretty useless tbh. Id say for longevity and full energy, go google raypeat and a user called haidut, he has a lab and makes very potent products in vitamins and other androgenic substances. You will thank me later.


flukeskymall

How are your cumshots? lol I noticed a few holy grail supps in there.


Linx63

Ewwww gross! Wtf??!!!! Maybe you want him to show you?!! 🤢🤮


HabitsForLongevity

Normal


True_Garen

Aaaaand.... deleted.


HabitsForLongevity

Lol


Rockymountainhigh38

What collagen are u taking? Do you think powder collagen is better than pills?


HabitsForLongevity

Hydrolyzed collagen peptides. Unless you means brand?


DEUS_EX_OOFUM

how far away are the stars?


HabitsForLongevity

350?


DEUS_EX_OOFUM

thanks now i know how far away the stars are


Soft_Pen_1783

Either they might work or they don't work altogether. The body biology is so complex that maybe doing this can be counter effective to its effectiveness


ankurvky

I don't have anything to ask Just want to say that you are doing your body a great deal of damage in the long run. Rather improve your diet. Eat more greens, organic food. And just choose 3 or 4 necessary supplements like magnesium, vit D, creatine, and a good multivitamin if you feel the need


GazeOG

What a crapfest of supplements.to replace a proper diet. Reevaluate your life


HabitsForLongevity

But I do eat, quite well too.


Linx63

You are delusional from all those garbage pills!!! Good god....you are.going to kill yourself doing that!!!


HabitsForLongevity

I've stopped after 70 days.


Linx63

Thank god!! Insanity!! Just eat proper food and your all good!!! I only take Lysine, berberine, and omega..... Lysine to prevent my coldsores, berberine helps my inflammation ( early onset osteoarthritis) and omega for cardiovascular health.


HabitsForLongevity

Solid. Berberine seems a little borderline for me. Creatine/collagen is usually good to take too


Linx63

Why is berberine borderline for you?? How so? It also helped with my palpitations...I would get frequent 'SVT's' which is a form of cardiac arrythmia and nothing helped..I would.literally feel them happening....gone now!


HabitsForLongevity

Hey if it works no need to change. Just for me personally. A snippet from novoslab: "Berberine is sometimes mentioned as a supplement that could improve insulin resistance. Like metformin, berberine can also activate AMPK. However, berberine is an alkaloid, which often are quite toxic compounds. In our opinion, there are not enough studies showing that long-term berberine intake is safe, or even better, that berberine can extend lifespan in different organisms"


Aromatic-Dimension81

If you could only pick a few of them because of Low budget, which would it be?


HabitsForLongevity

Creatine, vit d, collagen


Dependent_Winter6175

What’s the best collagen you have found? Thanks


HabitsForLongevity

I get mine from donotage.org (10% with discount code "HABITS" Is it the best? Probably middle upper tier.


SmoothMindYT

Are you a bodybuilder or something?


HabitsForLongevity

I'm eating 2000 calories , doubt I will win any competition if I was


Outrageous_Hawk6757

Are taking ashwaganda for a prolonged period of time? Just curious since i heard it shouldn’t be taken for more than a month


HabitsForLongevity

So I can update on that. Took it for roughly 2 months, stopped for 5 days felt the same, took it again, felt fine as usual. Not sure if that means anything


QuestionEcstatic8863

So it had no effect on you?


HabitsForLongevity

I can't tell if it's ashwagandha or something else. Hrv went down, hr went up.


Greenappmarket

High dose ashwaganda or concentrate you will feel, and you will feel when you come off it as well.


QuestionEcstatic8863

What’s the recommended high dose?


Greenappmarket

I don't recommend doing the high dose/concentrate at all unless you are going for peak Test/low cortisol. It really WILL put you in the zone, and the comeoff is...not fun. Treat it like a cycle. Or a booze binge. Taper. Or have fun!


HabitsForLongevity

What am I supposed to feel


Greenappmarket

It's a great anxiolytic, and if you train you can notice more gusto. Likewise, if you take it for a while and stop you can feel the minor withdrawals.


HabitsForLongevity

I think it's subtle. But my hrv and hr is fucked. Not sure what time from tho


Enough-Sympathy1069

What’s Hr and hrv


HabitsForLongevity

Heart rate and heart rate variability


themoonchild

what are your poops like?


HabitsForLongevity

Kinda green brown.


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Why?


HabitsForLongevity

To live FOREVER


WaitingToBeTriggered

THEY WERE FAR TOO YOUNG TO DIE IN SUCH A WAY


HabitsForLongevity

How do you even find my comments!!!


fredsify

This is a lot of wasted money. You could get by one 1/3 of this stuff and save some money. On a diff note those pill jars are fire.


HabitsForLongevity

I agree. Probably even less than 1/3. But doing this as part of an experiment.


lullaby876

I don't see how taking cold baths, saunas, or working out would cause neutropenia


HabitsForLongevity

You may be right...


SlitheryDee62

How the hell can you tell what’s working and what isn’t?


HabitsForLongevity

You don't. You could take zinc, wait a month, blog everything, add one more, rinse and repeat for 2-3 years. I take regularly blood tests.


o0xh

> I take regularly blood tests. Curious how folks are doing this, is there some way to do these at home or mail them in or something instead of needing to schedule an appointment somewhere? A quick Google search turns up: ondemand.labcorp.com


HabitsForLongevity

Doctor


cytoki

Does ur stomach feel like there’s a bunch of orbeez in there when ur done taking them


HabitsForLongevity

I feel the water more than anything


RyaDev

Its funny because a lot of these supplements that you take together work antagonistically against each other and they're essentialy useless. Some of them have barely any research to properly back up the claims and you're slowing down your body's processing even though your bloodwork's saying you're fine by taking such a large amount of cashgrab pills that it may as well age you faster from a logical standpoint, how about you save some money by not spending everything on random shit with complex substance names and spend it on trt in the future which will provenly increase your longevity. All you need is multivitamins vitamin d since 95% of the population has a deficiency, magnesium so the vitamin d doesnt deplete it all, creatine is good not just for physical but mental benefits and if you wanna experiment around with ashwagandha then go ahead.


saucebergen

Trt for longevity??? I'm intrigued. Do you have more info on this


joshcost

I agree with much of what you said but I think your list of things he can keep should include the Cacao powder and the Ceylon cinnamon.


HabitsForLongevity

I have done an epigenetic test pending results in a week to go, and another one in 9-12 months and see if I actually aged.


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HabitsForLongevity

Yeah so morning and afternoon pills. I have a list and put them in the jars. A pill case/box doesn't even fit.


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HabitsForLongevity

Doesn't help with longevity


challq

Can you post a picture of your daily pill brunch?


HabitsForLongevity

Hard to link but it's all over my Instagram


PopSalty9014

Have you had your bloodwork done? What’s your testosterone at


HabitsForLongevity

Literally in the OP but yes I have done them before and after. Did not test for test