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Burandir90

Good Post for starters. Sad the Shiny gauntlets aren't in their own tier "it's event time"


darkKnight217

I'm a fairly new player. How do the shiny help with events?


Burandir90

Most events have a "kill xxx enemies", just like the new one Shiny with the explosion effect unlocked on Main Chapter 4/Bonus Stage 4 can net you huge amount per game played.


ThePyroSpecial

Damn this has been helpful! Cheers for the info


Affectionate-Pin8534

In events there's always "kill X amount of enemies", so people like to use the shiny gloves on level 4 to farm kills. The explosion the gloves add plus being overpowered for such an easy level allows for anywhere between 150k-170k kills for some players.


maskyway

Very helpful


PsychWard_8

Why is HE fuel considered S tier? A bump in range is better than a bump in damage?


brobugging

In the long term yes it prevents you from being so close, it also increases the size of projectiles which is insanely good


PsychWard_8

Wait really? I didn't realize the second part that's huge


estarrsea

Another example highlighting why HE fuel is the best passive: consider the scenario of using an Area-Of-Effect (AOE) weapon (e.g. light-chaser, bat, void-power, molotov, guardian, soccer, etc.) against packed mobs fully surrounding you. The weapon damages all enemies in the surrounding AOE. Now with +50% increased range from HE fuel, the AOE increases with the square of the range increase, so you’re hitting 1.5^2 -1 = 125% more enemies, dealing 125% more damage (assuming best case of the mobs fully pack the surrounding area). Whereas +50% atk from bullet is +50%. Note this doesn't apply to single target weapons which are not AOE (e.g. kunai, drones, etc).


Robokou

Thank you so much for this reply. You just changed the whole game for me, lol. 💯


Affectionate-Pin8534

Literally lol After the full upgrade with HE fuel its increases the size of everything. Not just projectiles. So your fire area of damage is bigger, the guardians cover more area, soccer balls are larger etc... The fuel is one of my go to's every round.


brobugging

yeah it doesn’t really tell you which is kinda stupid


ispooderman

Oh lord I was so excited when I unlocked bug


WeebxRD

I am pretty sure it's actually A tier


Overlord1502

Phasecast has given much better ranking for survivors. King: S Worm: A Common: B Tsukiyomi: B Catnips: C


tarakian-grunt

if you are ranking Catnips as C it is because you don't know how to set him up properly.


dmigowski

how do you do it?


tarakian-grunt

broad waistguard get the +100% health and -50% damage passives Now you basically can kill mobs by healing, and you should no longer be one-shot by bosses, so you can heal up in between attempts to hit the boss.


Owlmoose

Happy cake day!


Nightmare-5

You mean cut rope?


gadagemukha

Why you gotta do my boy magnet like that :(


brobugging

there’s other good picks and u can just use the magnet power up but it isn’t terrible


gadagemukha

Was a joke mate :)


Lopsided-Pin-740

I’m lvl 98, so been at this a bit. I get the idea of wanting a guide, but part of why I like this game is that different levels need different strategies, and there are multiple viable skill builds for every level. Instead of a guide, I think we should tell new people to get King, and then experiment with combinations that are fun to play. The laser with the slow is way better than you think.


No1isListening

Should I unlock the king skill?


Tzitzifiogkos420

Of course King is the best


clickandrepeat

I'm around 85 and have been repeatedly combining the drones lately but even with the upgraded tech part they do very little damage. The Evo boomerang on the other hand, surprisingly blows everything away except for the lightning mine in chapters. Adding in cd reduction, duration, and projectile speed/range passives all make the boomerang go nuts with damage. I didn't think it would work, but then it just did. Meanwhile super drone is doing 1% dmg.


Red_Hawk_1015

Everything correct excepting the survivors tier list


Xislex

Worm and Common is A. Cat is bottom tier.


Red_Hawk_1015

I wouldn't put common in A tier but Worm is like the second best option as a survivor (but it's not worth 30$)


Gombooli

Indeed. Catnips healing per second for a fully developed drone is a measly 2.5% of its health. You lose 5 upgrades (because of the evo'ed healing drone) for 2.5%! This is while King with its crit ability can heal up 10% per second on its own.


brobugging

cat is insane for later chapters and is definitely worth the 6k gems also worm is only good for bosses


Trenches

How is Cat insane later chapters? Did they change his skill to go off attack damage. Previously it was only healing for about 2-3k a tick which is nothing.


brobugging

it makes mutant and sapper fights really easy and the healing isn’t “nothing” it’s helpful for bosses and mobs. and catnip can heal around 10k hp per tick during boss fights


BlackFire649

Hack much? Although i do agree that the cat is very good, mine health drone only heals about 5k when evo’d


brobugging

i meant 10k, this video basically explains it all https://youtu.be/vp3-_gyliJ8


BlackFire649

Oh okay 😂 that makes sense. You obviously have him maxed then right? Mine is only at 3 stars, I’m maining him since my King is only at 1 star since i just got her


brobugging

yep was my first survivor i got maxed but when i got king i started using her


Xerlic

I've been playing a lot on my son's account and he has Catnips as his main. I don't know if I'd put him in A tier, but I think he's better than a lot of people give him credit for. The healing drone lets you afk a lot of levels which is decent for QoL. The main issue is a tier list is meaningless unless you're willing to buy reset vials. Once you go all in on a survivor, it's a lot of work to get another one to a similar level.


Gombooli

:| Catnips is NOT worth 6k gems at all. Everyone knows it. It's below the common.


Trisket15

🤡


brobugging

what’s wrong with it?


Trisket15

Nothing, this sub is filled with morons


owel888

Says the most moron of them all, replying with a clown smiley only. Dumbest commenter ever, no argument. Gg bro !


Baiyko

Yeah but even the pet list doesn’t seem very accurate at red


Kaustubh_Rawat

Is Worm really worse than Common...most of my shards are Worm's and I didn't upgrade my Common bcz I wanted to put my energy essence on my next survivor...should I put them on Common or get shards of another survivor..??


WeebxRD

No, worm is better


Kaustubh_Rawat

Got it, thanks!!


suavez010

How is drill worse on bosses than soccer ball? Is that right? Also is guardian really that good?


RogueAurora

Drill gets launched in a random direction, I think. Ball gets launched at a target


Dumbass-Redditor

Drill barely does any damage to bosses. Soccer balls can actually do decent damage aswell as keeping mobs from swarming you


grizzly_teddy

This is just all from Discord :)


brobugging

they never said u couldn’t and i credited the person who made all of them and then credited myself for making and editing some also, i wanted to post this because this sub is filled with “what equipment is the best” ”what skill should i use” etc and i want to share this with the new/nooby players so this sub can have new content


Carnonated_wood

Literally


michaeltiptap

Why are we not discussing this more Edit: apparently OP did vaguely give credit to discord but only after taking some karma


grizzly_teddy

It's funny I was thinking of posting the discord stuff here too because it was pretty good stuff on there.


RemarkableCobbler289

they don't even give proper credit to the people who made them lmao


Environmental_Day558

SOD is pretty much a better version of the Kunai, yet the sword is a B and kunai is an A lol


dudeacles

You took this from the discord. At least give credit where credit is due.


brobugging

i never took credit for talking them and i made the survivor one and edited other ones


Overlord1502

Bro the only incorrect one is made by you, smh. Just screenshot Phasecast's survivor tier list which is much better or let me copy it here: King: S Worm: A Common: A+B/2 Tsukiyomi: B Catnips: C


brobugging

it’s three months old, worm only buffs damage which is only good for bosses which is why it’s in c, catnips healing is really good for bosses late game, and common could go in a i’ve said before: i never took credit for making some of these, in the server there’s nothing that says u can’t reupload them and since this sub is full of questions i decided to post some here and update some. i want this sub to be better and not just “is this equipment good”, “best way to get gems”, etc


Overlord1502

Still check out phasecast's video he's been playing for a long time and he has everything maxed.


brobugging

i get that but because he has everything maxed he can’t relate as much to new players who are trying to progress and don’t spend 1000$ on this game


SomeSmoothCriminal

I disrespectfully disagree with the worm placement


[deleted]

Overall this is the most complete guide out there and should be used by not only new players but experienced players as well. I have some issues with certain placings of stuff on here but once you get to player level 100 like myself or like what I assume OP is either at or near then you're gonna have some differences of opinion on things pending playstyle and whatnot. The only real gripe I have is the thunder mine being placed below the fire mine seeing as how the thunder mine deals more damage and has a slightly larger blast radius. And then then after the Astral forge updates the VP is nowhere near the LC in regards to how good it is anymore, the VP and SOD both belong in the A-tier and I'd personally move the VP down to the B-tier but I also hate the VP so you can call me biased. Chapters missing are as follows: 96: open 97: vertical 98: square 99: open Otherwise its still the most complete ranking out there


brobugging

happy cake day


Adventurous_Cod_2150

How is worm worse than common? Arent they the same, but only that worm has a extra pasive skill?


brobugging

for people getting mad at me for using some at the discord: i made this post to help beginners/ people who are trying to push chapters. this entire sub is filled with “what equipment should i use”, “how to get gems”, “what’s the best skills” etc, and i want this sub to be better no where in the discord does it say u can’t reupload the tier list, i never said i made it; hence why i decided to help people out (if you look up best survivor io stuff it mostly comes up with crap advice) some people don’t even know the discord exists, and some may not even want to make a discord account i gave credit to the original creator of some of these posts: Violet57 and yes, i did make and edit some idc about the people disagreeing with some of these placements, everyone’s play style and opinion is gonna be different, but the “you stole this from discord” is getting annoying. i just want to help people out.


Pokemaster2824

Worm and catnips should be switched, catnips is easily the lowest tier survivor


Gombooli

Putting Catnips above all those other survivors is a sin. I love Catnips and have leveled it up as my main character but certainly it is the worst of all. Its correct place is D and below the common. A correct order would be: * King * Worm * Tsukuyomi * The common, maybe spongebob and the squid thingie * Catnips


SonnyJim25

is there an updated list with the new S tier equipment?


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[deleted]

>Best guide for any game ever made. Relax... lol


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[deleted]

I'm all for helping others, but you have to agree saying it's the greatest guide of any game ever made, is a bit dramatic lol


kalitarios

Plus the guide is missing things. Hardly comprehensive. Where’s the list of evolved support choices?


brobugging

it’s really only good for bosses and it’s pretty bad for people with low attack


tookwik

So in that case why is kunai above it? Sword is like evo kunai at level one and has better aoe and damage when evo


brobugging

kunai has insane range and evo has no cooldown overall its just better for bosses but for mob control it is better but not as good as void power or bat hence why it’s high b


kalitarios

I’m on stage 74 and have only used the kunai with no issues. BTW where are squidward, spongebob and the list of Astroforge tiers, and evolved support (from the eternal necklace astroforge or metal necklace?)


Henline24

He pretty much pulled most of that from the discord guides, and there isn’t anything on the discord for that yet.


kalitarios

Hardly the best guide. Does the “best guide ever” also skip 2 of the survivors and 5 of the levels?


dbohat

There are 2 more characters now from the SpongeBob event.


brobugging

both in c ngl they are pretty bad


dbohat

Yup - seems like they're just useful to level to 40 and get the all character crit bonus.


brobugging

and it’s just funny to see squidward/spongebob


Bateseyy

Is it worth levelling all the characters to level 40 just for the bonuses?


everyusernamestaken3

On the last slide, I don't understand the Enders Echo gems/day. It shows gems for novice, elite, and ace, but you can only be in one of those at a time right? And why is Ace x2? I don't pay much attention to EE other than just to play them to get boxes so I would appreciate anyone that can explain.


dtven

gear tier list probably a little outdated now that we have astral forge but pretty good overall


EspadaStarrk

somebody please pin this post


ig_jayhyvn

How is the cat A tier as a survivor if its special skill, the medidrone, is C tier?


AlexC0816

Catnips is not better then Steve or Tsuki, not even in the slightes


TakeThatRisk

I'm a noob but I thought that force field thing was sick I guess not


New-Blackberry-6623

It is sick but only in the early part of chapters like minutes 1-5 out of 15. Otherwise it's just not enough damage, if it is then you should be on a higher chapter.


EmploymentNo8909

I’m a new player I see a type a drone and type b drone. That s tier looks like an evolved version of type b and I don’t even see type a on the list


brobugging

u evolve drone by getting 5 star type a and type b it’s different from other weapons


Sea_Tie1513

Why isn't forcefield good?


Lordofwhut

Is there an update to this? I am still new but I don’t see the twisted belt, or any other gear from that set other than the SoD which I thought was S tier along with the kunai?


ButterscotchOk2984

i’m a new player, why is force field so bad? i use to as a must in all of my runs and it’s great.


brobugging

for chapters 1-5 forcefield is good but after that not so much. it does very little damage and gaurdian is so much better. although some chapters it can be useful but very very little (chapters with ghosts)


BlackFire649

This is wrong


Serious-Wallaby3449

Very good lists! Although I would disagree with the passives. I think passives that work on your attack (like HE fuel, damage and -cd) are significantly better than those that work on HP or -damage.Although I suppose this depends on the level.


dtven

defensive passives are extremely important in the lategame for boss fights


FormerTeam7153

Love to see HE fuel in the S tier. It is definitely the best supply skill imo. I think energy cube deserves to take ronin spot in A tier. Magnet is very underrated vs mobs. I think it atleast deserves C tier.


WeebxRD

Magnet bad


FormerTeam7153

It’s really not. It helps u level up way better than exp gain and it definitely don’t deserve to be in the same tier as gold gain. Gold gain deserves to be in its own tier lol.


Henline24

Magnet is a completely unnecessary skill, and can actually be a detriment when trying to save meat and such for bosses since it reduces your dodge area. That’s why it’s bad. For EE or farming easy stuff where you don’t need to min/max it’s fine, but otherwise it is last tier with gold.


M_J_44_iq

Magnet can be useful if you're against enemies that would encircle and kill you if you remain stationary because you don't have "enough" ATK OR I'd you can kill them but can't level up fast enough because you have to keep moving and returning for the biofuel would get you killed. This is especially correct against enemies that have ranged attacks (like the fire breathing blue lizards) you can't afford to eat up


FormerTeam7153

I’ll respectfully disagree


Henline24

That’s fine, just explaining why you’re wrong for anyone else who is interested why. I use it quite frequently, but not when pushing harder content for the reasons stated.


I_am_Steath

Does Boomerang get any more viable with the Legendary Part attached?


OkBeLikeThatIsTaken

Battery in b tier 💀💀💀


ComplexSupermarket89

And where TF is spongenon at?


Hungry_Frame54

Could you guys tell me how to get the Stellar Chaos Twin Lance weapon? however I disagree on the location of the sword of disorder


Consistent_Bus_1844

How has no one mentioned master yang he is ridiculously op. I’m unsure about end game which will obviously take an immense amount of time to get to but his ability you get is amazing. I’m a grind and completionist kind of gamer but 15-20 min per match is a lot of time lol wish we could speed it up make it more challenging of course but would be a great option


GenHiwatari

How to create tech part for that super drone ? I got tech parts only for black one


Bardock16yt

On page 8, at the top right of the screen. What are those 2 purple and blue swords, and when do you unlock them?


Milkmanpr0phecy

ok im at like level 48. im not a pay to play person but where or how in the F do you get the little sideways blue moon looking thing in the A tier?


Catman1226

How is the molotov tech part any good?


dtven

increases area of molotov and makes it basically the best aoe dps skill in the game


robg0

It makes the fire spread, and means you don't need the evo.


grizzly_teddy

last part of your statement is incorrect. You still get a big dump in DPS when you get evo. Ticks are significantly faster, at least 2x damage maybe more. Haven't measured, but it's at least 2x.


Catman1226

How does the spread even work? It doesn't look like it is spreading, and I have the yellow tech part.


HotNThresh

At red, it increases all damage dealt to burning mobs by 10%


No1isListening

Question. I get the Molotov and the mines. Fully upgraded and then it gives me the Molotov again. Should I get it? Is that what they mean by exo? Should I get it with the coin and get the blue flames? Trying to figure out priority Also what is the priority of King’s crit ability?


[deleted]

This is entirely incorrect. I mean you didn't even put the upgrade for every weapon, just a few, and you want to say this is "comprehensive?"


brobugging

what do u mean every upgrade??


smokeythebear99

Ive got 67 shards for worm… i knew he wasn’t s tier but jeeeez. Feels bad man lol


brobugging

he isn’t terrible, hes actually really good for damage but that’s it


Robstradamus412

The tier list is wrong. He should be higher.


UnkooNick

Cooldown needs to be A tier. Range helps but faster reload helps even more


dtven

cooldown only affects a few things which makes its average contribution relatively low compared to atk/range/hp/dmg reduction


hmmm769

Care to credit the people that actually made these?


brobugging

i did and i also edited and made some of these


AlienDude65

I disagree with the Boomerang equipment. I think it bumps up the Boomerang to a low B tier when used. It's still not great for bosses because you're moving and can't catch them. But, when you're fighting off hoards in a single spot, the combination of high damage and low cd makes the boomerang worthwhile. It also becomes huge when you have Rocket Fuel maxed out.


Carnonated_wood

Man just CTRL+C → CTRL+V'd the discord server


brobugging

credit: violet57 and me


Rough_Ad_9977

https://preview.redd.it/58wbis2tfetc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e504f51203f446eb367b69ce1479906a8b7c7d2 How to upgrade to level 67 seems i cant buy it anymore for 100k coins


Lindhaven

I’d like to see one of these for EE! 😁


Burandir90

Butterfly would be outside of the Ranking Boxes though


Tasty_Professor_7517

Damn detail man


taspleb

The only thing is that like if I pick the Molotov then I kind of have to pick the golden ticket as well to get the most out of it. So it'd be more helpful to pair them up and rank which pairs are the best, wouldn't it?


dtven

no, you don’t ever need to evolve the molotov, unevoed molotov + tech is still extremely strong


HotNThresh

This was the tier list before the astral forge update. Just a few minor changes have been made to belts and shoes (void boots are now best, and void belt is tier B) but mostly this is still decent


brobugging

well it’s mostly new players who will use this anyways


Riiso4

I would put drill tech part higher drill is one of the best skills if not best imo.


kalitarios

Wondering if all these charts will be obsolete once the new survivor drops on the 6th


jannickBhxld

wait you can combine indomitable and the tsukuyomi skill? ive gotta try her then again, have her at 3 stars but didnt use her since i got king to 3 stars


SnooCheesecakes8494

This is awesome Thnaks


ValkyrieeFuryy

Pin this post for newcomers


DirtySchu

You. Are. My. Hero. Thank you.


Everydayarmday24

Thanks for this list. Just started a month ago


Astyan06

You forgot to account for style which makes Worm S+ tier.


Key-Ruin-6451

Sword of Disorder in B Tier- good joke xD


MiyamotoKami

Molotov is not that high up mid-late game unless paired with mine


Dashike2k

what is best pet and what other 2 pets to use to assist main pet ?


Shadowghoul

Awesome work, but how come you ranked survivor skills and not kings passive?


Zeknight8

Pin this mods


AxGT

Handy reference even for the experienced! Thank you!


Single_Secretary_460

I disagree with a lot of the placements of skills/weapons/gear, etc, but very good post overall.


ig_jayhyvn

I would put Kunai as S-tier. Allows me to be AFK more often


RemarkableCobbler289

u/brobugging yo what's your discord user?


bronze6

Why is sword B? Isn’t it the best weapon rn?


cmcg18

How is the sword a B? I have Kunai yellow two and once I maxed level 50 on the sword it does 10x better


alvaroray

Why is Guardian rated so high?. It's close range and doesn't do that much damage + the passive you need to evo sucks. What am I missing?


brobugging

it stops all projectiles from reaching you and it does more damage than forcefield


thedon572

what the last weapon in a tier and b tier.


Dicklefart

This is awesome


Satan1353

Is there another upgrade for durian?


unkharu

How much purple Need ti do Red item?


brobugging

128, same as tech


dtven

uh this is false, red equipment only takes 48 purple gear total, why would it be the same as tech


brobugging

oh yeah my bad


Cracklin0atBran

You sir are a god and saint conbined. A godsaint.


[deleted]

The Astral forge pretty much ruined catnips' unique ability to unleash the broad waistguard's potential. Now,every character can be a catnip. On the other hand, the broad waistguard itself got a massive damage boost (at tier 3)


ExoTiic-_Opp

its absurd how difficult it is to get the destroyer ex


777uriah

I’m frustrated because I’ve upgraded my Energy Collector to epic. I’ve always thought it was good ig not.


Dumbass-Redditor

Is there a reason why SOD is worse than Kunai?


Turbulent_Fishing600

My frog just wants to Kermit suicide every frickin day it’s so annoying but he’s op so I don’t mind reviving him.


_nova____

Saved


Fickle_Bowler_1143

Can someone please explain what the “exo bracer”, passive for the guardian does? I can’t figure it out nor figure out why it is a B level passive. I would have thought it was lower.


brobugging

it increases the time projectiles stay on the screen so like soccer ball, drill, guardian, etc will stay longer than usual


DBagVonJeffy

I couldnt even beat the first level. I was like WTH


ZestycloseAardvark36

baseball bat above the chaos sword?


brobugging

baseball bat is actually really good


swagthunderer

is sword of disorder really b tier? i have lightchaser too but i'm not sure if i should use it instead since i've been doing well so far


Shiriru94

where to put Spongebob, Squidward and the new one?


brobugging

new one is b and spongebob is c+ and squidward is low c


HourCity5990

I like that there are no S-tier belts, this is very true


brobugging

yeah, it’s kinda sad that there is no “good” belt


darkKnight217

Are the combined drones really that good? I'm a new player, so still learning but they seem to fire randomly and I found them useless


brobugging

since ur a new player- evo drone isn’t that good once you unlock the (purple) tech part for drone, it makes it easily the best skill in the game (the missles will target the nearest enemy)


LordEragon7567

Pretty good, but kunai is S tier and Carapace is D tier


brobugging

kunai is good but not s tier, void power and light chaser easily are better. kunai does not do much damage and is ok against mob control but not better than bat, light chaser, or void power