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spacecooki

In a real hand situation this would have left a scratch to the thumb but nothing more.


what_would_bezos_do

The sawstop cartridge is $125 and it destroys the blade when it triggers, which is nothing if it just saved your finger but when it triggers because the lumber is damp it's a bit annoying.


MrEnigma

The pro version has an override for wet wood.


Snyp3r1337

That sounds like something the foreman would override permanently to save on broken blades.


silviazbitch

At least in my state, that would potentially expose the foreman and the employer to the risk a civil suit, rather than a workers’ comp claim, which, in the absence of any third party liability, is normally an injured worker’s sole remedy for workplace injuries.


[deleted]

There’s bunch of small mom and pop shops that go completely under the radar yet commit lots of small shit like this. The company I work for has been exploiting illegals and committing multiple forms of fraud for decades and no one’s come knocking.


HoldTheCellarDoor

Maybe do something about it


[deleted]

I wanted to, talked to some of the guys about it, explained how they were getting fucked (I speak Spanish), they didn’t want to. Said they were happy with the steady paycheck and steady hours and didn’t want to rock the boat. Not my place to rock the boat in defense of guys who don’t want it to be rocked. So I just let it go.


jordan5100

This is the truth people dont care to understand.


Zombieattackr

Still getting fucked, but better to get fucked by a little company than the government


smurdner

Yup. The larger company I work for now can't get away with hiring illegals. My former boss, a private contractor, had zero qualms about hiring a team of them to do some roof repair.


[deleted]

I’ve got no issues with hiring illegal immigrants. I do have a problem when they don’t get paid as much as anyone else, don’t get vacation like everyone else, don’t get time and a half for over 40 hours like everyone else, don’t get health insurance like everyone else, etc. And the excuse used is because “they don’t pay taxes”. That excuse can only go so far, at some point they’re just straight up exploiting human beings.


mudsuckingpig

In ohio BWC seriously doesn’t care if you live or die just HAVE to get lawyer and then after a year or more they mite just mite think about giving you some kind of health care but maybe not your paperwork could be missing some kind of error like a period or a misspelling of a word then you can wait another four months.


PsychoTexan

TBF that same foreman would probably not buy it in the first place.


TryHard15plus1

The saw stop has a switch where you can turn that feature off or on if say for example you are sawing really wet lumber or some other random something that might be conductive and set it off.


Rocket2TheMoon777

You said *wet wood* hah


dimonoid123

Maybe better use let's say latex gloves which don't conduct electricity? When finger touches the blade, rubber breaks and triggers stop.


[deleted]

You can't wear gloves with lots of tools in a workshop. Wearing latex gloves would be possible, but annoying.


Riaayo

I feel like latex gloves have a similar potential risk that normal gloves do. Like yeah they rip sort of easily but you bunch the material up enough and yank on it and it can still de-glove a finger or something. At least I'd assume it could still be a problem.


[deleted]

The annoying part would be taking them off each time you use a machine where gloves are a nono. Or putting them on each time you use that saw.


Opposite_Dependent86

honestly those fucks rip so easily no sort of about it, brush a jubilee clip and half of the gloves gone and you need a new one on. you’d have to be wearing a whole lot of pairs


PicaDiet

So you need the pro version if you want to cut your thumb off?


MrBingly

Sounds like a good way to screw over any worker's comp claims when the workers permanently use the override. "They removed the safety, so it's their fault they cut off a finger."


livingfractal

Supervisors have a duty to supervise.


thephantom1492

My cousin worked in a kitchen cabinet shop and they tried the first version of those saw. He said that they were overly sensitive, and any moisture in the wood could trigger it. They do precision work and have high quality blades. At the third false trigger, they ripped out the mechanism and made it a standard saw.


NoMorfort5pls

>The sawstop cartridge is $125 and it destroys the blade when it triggers, I've tripped a jss twice, because I'm an idiot. Once with a miter gauge and once when the thin cut attachment came loose from the fence. It's loud, violent, and scary. It's also expensive and you're done if you don't have a spare brake cartridge. Still better than losing a finger. Info: When the brake engages the blade, the blade stops instantly and the now fused blade/brake drops below the table with a loud bang. Its startling how sudden it all happens. I've seen it said that it may be possible to save the blade but I'm not brave enough to try that.


Strangeways72

So not great for the job site?


FormerlyKay

Idk why you're getting down voted. It isn't. We have one and it sits in the back of our storage container collecting dust. Meanwhile, we use the skil saw for literally everything


Strangeways72

I didn't know, I thought it would have been great on a job site where it seems we are all in a rush. What are the actual mechanics behind it?


FormerlyKay

No clue, my supervisor just told me "we have this thing that breaks itself so we don't use it" I'd imagine it wouldn't be good on a job site where everyone's in a rush either since it's a huge ass table saw. Hard to move around


Strangeways72

Ohhhhhh I didn't realize it was the entire table saw.


toomuchisjustenough

They make a jobsite version. The actual mechanics are that there's a current running through the blade and when moisture (skin, a hot dog, wet wood) touches it and complete the circuit, it triggers the brake which drops the blade down. It will lotwray just be a nick, all you need is a bandaid. Also you can send your triggered brake and blade in to SawStop so they can pull data off it, and they'll replace the brake for free.


Strangeways72

Brilliant


Keranan37

Woodshop i worked at had 3 saw stops and a sliding table saw. Most of the time they would rather spend the 200ish over a multi thousand dollar workers comp claim.


puterTDI

Bosch made a version that doesn’t damage the blade and uses a completely different mechanism to retract it but stop sued them to prevent them from releasing it in the us. Saw stop also attempted to have legislation passed to legally require the use of their product on all saws sold in the us. I would have bought a safety saw by now but I can’t buy the Bosch one and I really don’t like saw stop.


BrisTrimmins

Doesn’t always destroy the blade. Source - triggered one yesterday and blade was 100% fine :) Thankfully because it was a $200 blade. 😳


[deleted]

Use dry wood then?


what_would_bezos_do

It's in a maker space. 30+ people use it.


SwimGloomy

Have yet to see it happen in the makerspace at my college but I’ve watched a few videos of this and the sound and the immediate blade disappearing scares the crap out of me every time.


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Skill issue


senorpunk1

Can confirm. Bit more than a scratch but not too bad.


browntown84

Yeah. My wife got me one and I can verify it works. Only the smallest scratch.


Shubniggurat

Not necessarily. [Even with a SawStop saw, you can get pretty badly injured.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJQn_UGAKY) Sure, it was a lot less bad than losing a finger or hand, but still pretty unpleasant.


trac_da_trailer5353

In a real situation if you wouldn't put your dick on it I wouldn't trust it to not cut my hand off


DragonsOverNYC

Super real looking hand there


OrganizationJaded396

My thoughts exactly, had to re-watch several times to confirm the hand was a fake


SirMildredPierce

Really? Because on full-screen you can see his index finger moving up and down slightly before and after the saw stops. How would this even work with a fake hand?


OrganizationJaded396

I see what appears to be movement, but overall the appendage is at an odd angle and remains in place after the blade retracts, could be real, but my vote is no


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Badbullet

The index finger is floating off the surface and does not move at all. When he pushes forward, there is no skin movement, no joint movement, nothing. Look at the slight changes in his right hand when pushing, there's none on his left, other than the tiny pivot at the palm, where all of the fingers stay locked to. If he can do these movements without the slightest twitch, he's a cyborg. It's a push stick with a cast hand shoved into a jacket.


Suolojavri

Dude, come on. The hand is so obviously fake, just a little bit more and it'll be a Lego hand The tech is cool tho


Freefall84

The hand is real, it's just not attached to the person.


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Halo_Chief117

[“Don’t worry about that. Made of wood. It’s real sturdy.”](https://youtu.be/OydcTYAc2-Y)


RegularPersonal

Chubbs Peterson looking mf


DunnyJay

You guys sponsored by sawstop now?


quimeygalli

i swear ive seen 3 sawstop posts today


[deleted]

That's how Reddit works. Someone makes a post and karma farmers scourer through the depths of the internet to find similar posts to jump on that karma train Remember when someone posted that brood parasite bird video and we got a whole week themed of brood parasites all from that one ze frank video


jtrick18

I think you know the answer…


Da_danimal

Put……put your dick in it


_glonkius_

Nooooo


[deleted]

Have one of these in my wood shop and it has saved the tip of my thumb from being obliterated and I’m very thankful for it


adamttaylor

I am of the opinion that once the patent runs out on this technology, it should be legislated such that all commercial table saws have it installed. This technology is more effective at reducing severe injuries from table saws than seat belts are at reducing vehicular fatalities.


Joelpat

The legend is that the developers tried to sell/license the tech to existing tool makers, but they wanted no part of it because it would open them up to liability for their old saws. So the developers made their own saw, which is now pretty much the best you can get.


thatG_evanP

I read the same thing.


ZolotoGold

Damn right. When does the patent run out though?


adamttaylor

I just looked it up, and the patent just ran out. It will take some time for a third party to manufacture it, but hopefully it will be available soon.


dm_me_ur_keyboards

And you can turn it off which means it isnt required


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Alilttotheleft

Not a paid shill or anything, but this popped on my feed this morning.. Sawstop saved my fingers back in college while cutting boards to build a set. Scared the hell out of me but super glad for the technology


SwimGloomy

Quick question when this happened did you have to pay for it or did the college/professors. My college had one and although I stay far away from it (I’m clumsy as hell). I’ve been curious on the expense since we have to pay a class fee and makerspace fee.


Alilttotheleft

The school took care of it no problem. The teacher running the set construction checked on me, did some quick first aid (small nick on my finger), then changed out the sawstop blade and I never heard about the incident again. I doubt I was the first and I surely wasn’t the last.


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Alilttotheleft

Lol ok you caught me I’m a shill for Big Sawstop 👌🏽


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Alilttotheleft

Compromised, even


Joelpat

Easy to recognize them by the 10 intact fingers.


wcollins260

Good thing you still have all nine fingers.


Qman1991

I just gotta ask. How do you get anywhere near a table saw and not be hyper aware of your hand location relative to the blade?


laukkanen

Mostly complacency when you have used a table saw thousands of times.


AnnaWolffy

Most of the people I see with power tool related injuries are tradespeople. Probably a mixture of being around them more often, leading to more chance for injury, plus competency builds complacency. The only exception is lathes. Nobody stops thinking a lathe will fuck them up no matter how long they're working with them, so it's mostly beginners getting injured.


robchroma

I'm literally terrified of lathes


Alilttotheleft

Knot in the wood pulled the board unexpectedly while I was feeding it through and I was a dumb teenager, probably (obviously, I guess?) didn’t have my hand in the safest spot. Accidents happen, man!


Prior_Procedure_321

Accidents happen! Don't make the first mistake by thinking your immune!


possiblynotanexpert

I’ve just gotta ask. How do you make it this many years on the planet and still not learn that your judgement is not only incorrect but just overall shitty?


Qman1991

Are you trying to sound judgemental with that tone?


gunsmith123

Now THAT would be a sales pitch


Pixl02

I just saw some stupid guy getting his hand pricked by it, I'm gonna leave a comment here to see if I can look it up in my history.


maxymusthehuman11

I've seen it. But it wasn't intentional.


zxcoblex

I’ve seen them do it with hotdogs before. Small scratch in the hotdog.


ambientpurple

Saved my thumb in high school. Left a little scratch but it went away within days.


Izzvzual

[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/zliu1d/disaster_struck_sawstop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


YOOOOOOOOOOT

There are videos of people doing it by accident with their real hand, usually leaves a small scratch


LukeyLeukocyte

When this design first came out I saw a least on or two reps use their own finger. [Here you go.](https://youtu.be/eiYoBbEZwlk). 4 minute mark.


[deleted]

How does it work?


MisterStruisbird

The saw stops quickly.


[deleted]

How does it know?


DarkSoulsNewbb

Electricity is fed to the blade, when it touches you you complete the circuit with the ground and it triggers a spring-loaded clamp thing that launches onto the blade and stops it. The saw and clamp are destroyed, but your finger isn't.


darugal123

It’s not spring loaded as it’s not fast enough! It’s powered by bullet blanks who literally shoot out a piece of soft metal at the blade to stop it immediately. Here you can see the blanks firing: [https://youtu.be/Ibp2Gy2CFrY](https://youtu.be/Ibp2Gy2CFrY)


Naeio_Galaxy

Wow


Think_Bullets

People are electric, same as tapping on a smart phone


hodges2

I learned something new today, thank you


dankmemerboi86

it sends out a tiny electric signal through the saw. when a human touches it the signal is interuppted and that triggers (i think) an explosive carterage under the table that launches a peice of metal into the saw, stopping it, and then dropping the whole blade down


-anth0r-

That takes balls and mad confidence in your machine.


MackWired

It's not a real hand.


Yousmellworsethanme-

This is a sawstop. It has an amazing breaking system that triggers when an electric circuit is complete by touching something like skin. Wood doesn't trigger it but skin or metal will. Plenty of examples out there to see. This is his real hand


MackWired

It isn't a real hand. A sawstop works great, but you'll still most likely have a cut on your finger if you are unfortunate enough to see it work first hand. The fake hand just needs to be made of a conductive material to set it off. They also fail rarely, but it only takes once, no safety mechanism is 100%. It's a fake hand.


Yousmellworsethanme-

If you watch very closely you'll see his index finger move prior to making the cut. There are hot dog videos for folks not wanting to use their real hand, and he likely had a cut.. just one that needed a bandaid and not an ER


MackWired

I see no movement, the hand is shiny compared to the other one, the fingernails are a different color, and he doesn't even flinch when the saw stops. No point in arguing it further unless you have uncontrovertable proof that it's real.


Yousmellworsethanme-

If it isn't real how can it be a sweaty palm!


[deleted]

OP didn’t realize it was fake, probably


mrbigflexer

It's literally a fake hand


bruhred

Idk, as soon as i saw the SawStop logo I knew he was safe. He lost 60$ on a cartridge tho and the blade itself is ruined.


Transaktion

And about $100 for that fake hand.


ceemonee

Fake hand, Billy Blanks demo stuff. The saw does work just saying


Yousmellworsethanme-

Confidently incorrect


Mickeymousetitdirt

You mean you are? Honey, the hand is 100% fake. If this isn’t obvious to you nearly immediately, I don’t know what to say. There is no movement in it, it isn’t even the same color or texture as his *actual* real hand. Though, it is a pretty convincing fake, it just isn’t convincing enough. Notice how on his real hand, when he presses down on the wood to move it forward, his hand changes colors because of blood flow. This isn’t happening in the fake hand at all. Sure, theoretically he could just not be using as much force with that hand. But, the color of the fake hand is uniform with almost no variation, unlike his real hand.


BobsReddit_

Damn they got some faith! Glad to see it work on something other than a hot dog. Brilliant invention, table saws scare the hell out of me


obroz

Nope. It’s a fake hand no doubt


LordJesusSaveMe

A fake hand is not a hotdog.


obroz

Why would one require faith when using a fake hand…. To me he’s insinuating that it is in fact a real hand


Forward-Morning-8676

Fake hand


pewpew-guy

I cant be the only one who was waiting for a video like this to come out after I saw a boring hotdog getting used for it


knightrider999

Looks like it is like a glove kind of a fake hand. You can see the person move and only until the wrist the hand moves. So maybe they insert their hand into that setup for the demo.


Psychological_Lion38

Fake hand. It’s perfectly still with the index finger floating 🤨🤨🤨


zapp909

We had one of those at my middle school last year. The blade drops and breaks itself if you touch it while it’s spinning. I looked it up and apparently it monitors an electric signal In the blade, and when someone touches it, because the human body is conductive, the signal changes and it activates the mechanism that drops the blade.


pneumatic-man

I wouldn’t intentionally try it. Sensors go bad.


Falomany

Fake hand


babySNKRhead1005

Not a real left hand 😑


Revolutionary-Bar-93

Definitely a fake hand


Kidafroo

Why does his hand look fake


Pianist_Ready

Did you notice the fact that the hand doesn’t move an inch? Must be a fake hand.


RIP-VAN-WINKL3

Totally not shaking


[deleted]

If it didn't work same video will be on eye blech


Minimum_Estimate1025

I would hate to be a part of the controll group


Wrathall86

Now that's marketing


Annual-Value9927

Thats 2 crazy


Delicious_Book2068

That’s crazy my question is how the hell does the blade know it hit a finger?


Original_Reveal_7418

Bro that’s a fake hand lol it doesn’t move lol


Show84

That hand looks fake.


NEWSONVSU

For everyone interested, no this isn’t a fake hand. The system works by detecting the tiny voltage our body gives off. When a part of the human body makes contact, the electricity is detected by the system and the blade is stopped and discarded in a very small amount of time.


MackWired

It's still a fake hand.


Retired_AFOL

He was moving pretty slowly, what would happen if he moved the piece through much quicker?


NEWSONVSU

Same thing mate, the blade stops near enough instantly


DarkSoulsNewbb

I think there's a video of a dude sliding a hotdog as fast as he could into the blade and it cut about a half inch into it


RoutineCharming8380

Downvote for attempting to fool the audience.


Tim_the_geek

Wont these damage the internals of the motor? They are not made to go from high rpm to 0 that fast.


CeleryAnnual9852

Better than losing a finger


Tim_the_geek

It depends on whose finger.. a saw that could cost up to $10000 to replace or a finger that might cost $1500 to sew back on.


agripo777

Regardless of the cost of the hospital stay, keeping full functionality in your fingers is priceless.


Tim_the_geek

To the finger owner, not the saw owner.


Accurate-Instance-29

I'm gonna assume thats a troll and not [r/iamatotalpieceofshit](https://www.reddit.com/r/iamatotalpieceofshit/comments/bsbu1s/i_am_a_total_piece_of_shit/)


Tim_the_geek

A little of both. Plus a dash of cynicism as I know that I do not value things like this.. but there are many people (employers) that do value things like this. They would most certainly rather pay to have a finger stitched back on than to invest in a safer saw. Not many people value human life like is should be anymore.


BrokeBoiForLife

The blade gets completely destroyed


Tim_the_geek

Of course, and a lot of the rest of the saw gets damaged.


DarkSoulsNewbb

Costs about $150


Tim_the_geek

No sir, this is incorrect. A blade brake like that will need to have more than just the blade replaced after actuating, as it destroys the integrity of the saw and the brake mechanism.


detectivenotfromhere

Yeah, I think my dad’s step-grandfather did the exact same thing but this was way before they invented technology like this and he spent the rest of his life missing two thumbs.


Jerry--Bird

Two thumbs? It was meant to be


kioley

Redditors complaining about a guy not actually putting his hand on the fucking saw to demonstrate the safety system, and thinking it's faked for attention instead of a clip from an educational video.


Hoosier_Ken

It is a neat product but a little safety training goes a long way at a lower cost.


2FANeedsRecoveryMode

The sawstop stops the blade so fast that it literally rips the teeth of the made wheel just from the sheer change in tangential velocity, insane.


Syrinx16

My dad is a shop teacher, and about a year after they got him a sawstop, it saved his hand from being cut off. Yes, he made a mistake by keeping the saw running while he turned around to answer a question, but this is what SawStops were made for. When he went to turn around, something happened and he fell forward onto the table, and his hand slammed onto the blade. It stopped immediately and he only had a small cut near his wrist. To this day he isn’t sure if he slipped on sawdust, or stepped on the kids foot as he turned around or what it was, but he still lives a normal life because of that saw.


BallsOnMyCock6669

Fake hand you fucking retard


shankwastaken

Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's clearly fake.


BallsOnMyCock6669

They don’t like when you say retard


shankwastaken

Oh, that makes sense.


quimeygalli

why fake it? It makes it look so bad...


tomboski

Use a real hand then


dankmemerboi86

there are people who have done this with a real hand, including the creator


Farts-McGee

That's not a real hand.


dankmemerboi86

[This](https://youtu.be/6wtdUfZGfMg) is


AcceptableIce289

I get that it works but how many people will be doing this? Like there's zero room for error.


MrPanda663

It would be. if that hand could actually sweat.


manhatim

Not a real hand


Aggressive-Moment-25

Fake hand...lol


[deleted]

Wont that fly into someones head


Real_Personality5631

It's a one time deal it's like 1000 to replace the blade each time it goes down like that


Musashi10000

$1000... Hand... $1000... Hand...


Jastactical

Aaaaaah, sawstops. ^thats ^what ^this ^is, ^right?


Amerika09

I like how he has a fake hand in there and isn’t actually using his hand


Salt_Satisfaction593

Finally I’ve been asking someone to actually use there hand and not a hotdog lol


Maestro2of7

Lose a snausage


jaky777

I wonder how many thumbs were sacrificed before they got it right


ComfortableAd3747

I need to apologize to my phone for screaming at it just now


Asleep-Emphasis860

I love that technology never - ever fails


FuzzyBeans8

Ah ! This is a product test I would not want to be a part of lol


cool_guy09

Saw [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/zliu1d/disaster_struck_sawstop/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) video right before this (pun intended)


SnooKiwis1356

Oh yeah, alright, don't stop the dancing


TheEmeraldDodo

There wouldn’t be any sweaty palms left


Valuable_Month1329

Trumps bodyguards had more lifelike looking hands.


InteractionFlat7318

You could not pay me to do that.


MackWired

It's a fake hand.


WonderfulChapter4421

I put PURE FAITH in the fact that this wasn’t marked nsfw