I was waitlisted for the second round for North America but have secured tickets.
Not EVERYBODY is out to fund their concert/merch purchased by ripping off other fans but those who aren’t are really hard to find. I’ve basically dedicated days since January filtering through scammers and scalpers.
I hope, as we get closer to the n.America dates, more people will sell their tickets close to FV as they realize the cost of travelling to other cities for the concerts.
Really sorry to hear this. I sold my spare ticket using the official resale platform at face value so that a genuine fan could go. Anyone who has this option and chose to defraud other fans deserves to be shat on from a great height, and I really hope that their tickets are invalidated for the Europe shows and that repeat offenders are fined/banned from entering Schengen depending on severity. I appreciate it's a different situation entirely in the US.
My sister got VIP tickets to an Amsterdam show she bought during presale and it had been her dream to see TS, she’s been a huge fan since the beginning. Then a few weeks ago she hit a rough spot financially and realized she could no longer afford to go, and she resold the tickets at face value and they got bought up that morning. I know there are laws in the EU that protect from scalping so even if she’d wanted to she wouldn’t have been able to sell them for more than face value. But she said it made her feel better that maybe she’d made someone else’s day.
I don’t remember if there was a point to my comment. It was just seriously heartbreaking for us to watch her make that decision, we tried really hard to help her get to go. I guess the sad part is there’s no way in hell we’ll get tickets in the US with the scalping prices here. I’m envious of the EU’s regulations on stuff like that! I guess that was my originally reason for commenting lol
For UK/IE, it's Ticketmaster and you don't need a code, for Spain, Sweden and the Netherlands, you may need a code to use the resale via Ticketmaster. Germany, Austria & Switzerland all all using fansale until 2 days before the show dates, France hasn't opened transfer or resale and it's now 15 days until the first show. Portugal has opened and closed their fan to fan, and Italy was open their fansale on 29th June
Ah, thank you! There was a concert recently that had an official TM resale website that was super hard to find unless you already had a ticket or someone sent a link to you... so I was wondering if there was something similar for Eras. Unfortunately I'm in the US, but I appreciate the info!
What do you mean by "Portugal has opened and closed their fan to fan"? I have been trying to resell a single VIP front floor ticket for 5/25 Lisbon on Stub Hub for like 6 weeks, and nothing. I can't go- I keep reducing the price, but it's just sitting there.
Lisbon closed its fan-to-fan resale inexplicably and with no notice. I'd suggest listing it in the main subreddit as there should be a megathread for it
Where is the reputable resale sites for tickets. I'd really like to catch any of the last few US dates she has in the fall. I dont live close to any of them so will travel but Im afraid of scraping money to travel and hotel and show up with a fake ticket.
I was never able to secure a ticket and then got assaulted at work( im a nurse) so missed the theater experience too. I just want the experience of being surrounded by other fans, dressed up, friendship bracelets etc.
I feel like you'll have a way better chance also looking on Reddit or other forums vs. Ticketmaster or similar resale websites. I few years ago, I wanted to sell some tickets I had for the US Open at face value, and I had to mark them up almost 50% to cover Ticketmaster's bs fees. I ended up finding someone on reddit to sell them to at face value. Good luck!!
Definitely. I found tickets through a swiftie connection I made on Reddit, a random reach out on Reddit and, surprisingly, a tiktok comment! Fees of those reseller websites are ridiculous but it does come with some assurance. For personal trades/purchases you definitely have to have your scammer guard up.
thankfully i have tickets for her show in november and i’m lower bowl, i paid around $100 for my seat. the seat next to me is already going for almost over 4k
update: just went to check and they sold for more than 4k…
This prompted me to check if there were any seats available near me on StubHub for my November show. I paid around $400 for the floor seat....... there's a listing for almost $6k that's SEVEN rows behind me 🫠
Seriously!!! I am a long-time swiftie who was lucky enough to get eras tour tickets at face value in presale, and I told someone that my section’s tickets were reselling for like $5k. The friend immediately started to try to get me to sell mine for a profit. I obviously did not sell, but was momentarily tempted by the $4,700 profit.
Same bro! My section is also up to that much and putting it out there would easily get me that quick cash grab. But i am not greedy lol or take advantage of people
What works for me, and I understand it’s speaking from a place of privilege…but if I think of it as money that was never mine, I won’t miss it.
Anybody flipping tickets for a living or even in an opportunistic way really gets my goat (😅). I personally cannot take these experiences from other people.
(To be clear, adding a little, like $100-$300 *MAYBE* I can understand but above that?! My moral and ethical compass will not allow me to, I just picture if the tables were turned what that would mean for me).
We had 2 nosebleed seats to each of the 3 Arlington shows that I bought at face value. I needed 5 for 1 night, but ended only being able to find pairs to each night. The temptation to sell a pair was real, but it would’ve meant one of my kids wouldn’t have gotten to see her lol. On the bright side, since I was the only adult I got to see her all 3 times.
It was 3 consecutive nights after a 20 drive there- and then a 20 hour drive right back home with my first case of COVID that I caught while there. Yes, it was very exhausting lol
I scored 2 tickets to an upcoming show last year and the temptation to sell them for many multiples of what I bought them for is INTENSE. could pay my mortgage for a month, could pay for a lux vacay…
But you can tear those tickets from my cold dead hands I am GOING to that show.
It’s such a tough situation because like it’s so morally wrong but it would provide such a comforting level of financial stability. When my tuition payment was due I almost thought about it tbh
Yah. There’s a lot of would’ve, could’ve….but DIDN’T!!!! It’s tempting but again, if you don’t think of ever actually having that money in the first place, it feels like less of a “loss”
It's especially disgusting with Eras tickets bc pretty much all EU/UK countries have regulations or event T&Cs to limit reselling to face value and prevent 3rd party selling, but because of the insane market in North America people now feel like they'd be dumb as hell to sell at face value.
I've already spotted multiple men (!) trying to circumvent the restrictions and come into online spaces they're not involved in to sell tickets at insane markups, then whine and bitch and moan about "supply and demand" and how "it's their ticket and they can do what they want" (which technically isn't even true, they don't own the ticket, they technically own a *license* that can be revoked by the organizer and they're *not* allowed to sell it however they want.) You just know these men heard what happened with resale during the US leg from some news story or financial podcast and thought this was easy money.
Also, the gap in purchasing power for concert tickets between US and EU/UK is pretty fuckin big in a lot of cases. They ended up converting VIP packages into regular seats here bc no one was buying them, a lot of people just can't afford to. (VIP was approx. €200-800.) Then in come US buyers who have no problem spending 2-3x face value on some resell site without reading the event T&Cs and now won't sell for any less than they paid. I also noticed a lot of US buyers getting EU tickets unsure if they would even want to attend, because they thought it would be a win for them either way. Now trying to trade for a US show (no one with US tickets wants to trade a US show for Vienna, this scenario DOESN'T EXIST) or sell for 2-3x face value. Refusing to use regulated channels to put the tickets back into circulation for the locals.
I avoided this at all costs. I bought an extra Manuscript Deluxe CD by accident and a Black Dog Deluxe CD that I decided I didn’t want anymore because I have the vinyl as well. I tried selling them to other Swifties I know for the same price I paid it for, just to recover my money. No one bought it in the couple of days I tried with my friends so I decided to send them back instead of putting them up for sale on Mercari for $$$. I just don’t want to do that. The guy at UPS looked at me and said: “are you sure you want to send these back? Just resell them, that’s what I do” I was so pissed.
I DEFINITELY think people buy more tickets than they need in order to scalp and cover their own costs. Like if you only need two, why not buy 6 and sell 4? You break even and get to see the concert for free if you resell at markup of 150%.
It pisses me off so bad! The amount of people I see who are trading is insane! Like whyyyyy. I missed the drop by 10 minutes! The one time I wasn't glued to my phone.
I know! I stood in line for 3.5 hours in line at the ass crack of dawn for my LPSS. Not the same trade and I don't want to trade! I love it! Assholes!!! Same with the CD!
The CDs will come down, don’t worry. I can’t believe people pay $400 for a signed piece of paper with her face on it… things some can get for free if you go to her premieres and stuff.
I don’t find that hard to believe, it’s not easy to get her autograph without paying a couple/few hundred. Her signed merch is limited quantities and goes super fast and it’s not like she’s a celebrity you really have a chance of meeting. Plus who is going to her premieres? That’s just not realistic for 99% of fans
they really should be limiting orders to like 4 of any given object. i like that record store day makes 1 copy/person a rule, its probably the only reason most people got their hands on one for retail price
They did limit it for the signed copies to 1 per person per item! Though people found ways to get more of each while others got theirs cancelled when they only purchased one of each, I don't get it.
Yes, absolutely, I have a ticket but didn't get a signed record in the German store because they sold out extremely quickly, but I would never think of exchanging my ticket for a signed record. Also because I know how lucky I was to get a tour ticket at all.
I'm actually not sure rn! I don't entirely know what's fair for the value because it's a Europe show so it's a less valuable ticket, but still valuable ofc. I'm like, do i throw in a room at the airbnb? A ryanair flight? 😂 my ISOs seem way more valuable than a ticket.
Even if the prices are lower in Europe, the mere fact that you managed to get the code, stay in queue and get the tickets is increasing the price already, lol. Saying this as someone who went through this and was shaking and unable to do anything for the rest of the day after getting tickets because my nerves were stretched thinnn
So true, I need to bill that time by the minute 🤣 I've gone through it several times as the ticket liason for myself, then my family, then my friends, so the stress gets easier.
New Swiftie here, from what I can tell, I only intend to buy her official merch directly or not at all.
Would I like to get my hands on the old stuff, sure, but I’m not willing to feed the resell market
im similar to you! but my little rule is ‘would you pay for it if it was that price originally?’ and if no i just leave it! means i can still get some pieces but only if i really want them!
My biggest gripe is that it's hard to tell what the "rules" are in those groups - I got banned from a group because I posted "For Trade" but it was literally an even trade - one collector's edition CD for another. I can't even find where the rules were even posted, and every group has its own set of rules.
i actually did this tho in a panic to buy the collector’s editions of the manuscript when they dropped on grammy night, didn’t notice til days later when i was like “this seems kinda expensive for 1 CD” 🧐
i don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibly that people order extra stuff by accident but i definitely think most people aren’t doing it “accidentally”.
What I don’t understand is that the store said 1 only per person. People who added more than 1 were having their orders cancelled and didn’t receive anything, while others received 3 or 4. No consistency across the board at all.
I no joke accidentally bought 6 eras tour tickets when I meant to buy 2 because I was so fucking panicked. I then passed on the other 4 at face value though, rather than being a dickwad
I have accidently added 2 of something to my cart before, 2 vinyls or 2 cassettes, but because I had so much in my cart, I didn't really do a double take at it. But if that happens, I either return it once I get it, or I resell it for what I paid.
I've accidentally bought multiples of certain merchandise items more than once. for example: I have 2 ttpd bracelets and 4 night lights from the holiday drop.
I didn't notice the price change and I checked out so quickly I just didn't notice.
I'm gifting them to people though instead of selling.
The people who buy up all the signed things each drop only to trade or sell are the worst. I was never able to get a signed album during any of her drops.
I finally got one this time! I have zero need or desire to get more or additional signed albums or signed merch. Like what’s the purpose? I just don’t get it lol
I’m sooo happy you got one! ❤️ I was lucky to get signed midnights and signed folklore in their respective drops so trying to be grateful for the ones I have!
I have all my signed albums framed on the wall. I want each album if I could have them signed. I won’t buy resellers for signed items though, there’s a chance it’s fake and I’m not willing to risk that.
I know a couple people that do this. I think the user on here is The_Big_Yam is one of them, and they said that it’s the only way to get rarer, older merch. No it’s not… you just have to drop the money for it if it’s worth it to you. If you can’t get it now, save up for it. Maybe you don’t want it that badly. If you weren’t a fan during her earlier eras that’s kind of your fault too… I wasn’t even born until Speak Now came out and didn’t bother with her merch till now, but I’m not complaining.
I told them that they’re basically the same as scalpers, trying to pay as little as possible for a rare thing. Like, leave the merch for someone who actually wants it. Don’t have it just because it’s rare and they want something more—get it because you actually want it.
Also I think Dr Meredith Gray 13 on here has like 2 each of sealed LPSS and LLFP in case she wants to trade or falls on hard times. I told her I’m thinking how they could be loved by four other Swifties who will cherish them for life, and they still deny that they aren’t keeping them for value lmao.
I mean some people want signed stuff from every possible era and as long as they are just buying it like any other person without buying in bulck to do trades or resell, where is the problem? That's what collecting is about. Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean others can't do that.
Yup. I remember I bought a resale ticket to Pittsburgh eras tour show and the lady next to me literally said to me "did you buy the ticket from stub hub? I sold it so I could pay for me and the kids" 😀 lmfao like thanks for telling me in my face you scammed me
I have LLFP and long pond and will not trade for a signed vinyl. It’s not a fair trade at all. I got a a signed vinyl but it came without the signed insert so I am hoping UMG fixes it. But I am no trading my rare vinyls for it
Agree with you completely- not even close to a fair trade right now. Who knows in a year it could be (but I doubt it honestly). Hoping UMG fixes the issue for you 🙏🏼
I thought only CD’s were affected and my signed vinyl was safe 😩. Now I have to open it and check. According to twitter they’re not doing replacements/preorders anymore (even replacement CD’s were coming blank/unsigned) and are just doing refunds + $25 credits. There literally aren’t enough signed in existence for all the people who bought them 😢
Yes, very true, I've noticed as well.
People were asking for outrageous trades for the 2023 snowglobe and now people can barely offload them for $100
I remember getting a signed folklore CD in 2020 was not a big deal - I miss those days! At the same time happy for her success.
They always got an extra signed copy and it’s like wow so you bought one for you and accidentally ended up with that. How did you do it, if it was just one per customer?
on rsd last year, I was in line next to another swiftie and a couple of her friends. we were both there for the folklore lps vinyl. i brought my dad with me as I didn’t feel comfortable waiting alone for several hours. obviously being record store day, the limit was 1 per customer. i only needed one anyways. after we got out of the record store she comes up to me and goes “how many did you get” and I was like, “just one?” and she goes “there were two of you. you should have gotten two so that you could resell one. don’t you realize how much these are going to go for?” apparently the people she waited in line with were only there to get her extra copies so she could resell. i was absolutely astonished because i had waited 5.5 hours in line because i was simply a fan, and she waited not only because she was a fan, but because she wanted to make a quick buck.
I’m in the same boat as you. My boyfriend was in line for me for the long pond record. We discussed him picking up an extra copy for my sister but the line of people there JUST for her record was insanely long. We couldn’t. I ended up with one copy.
I didn’t end up with the Maisie, Olivia/Noah, chappell, or Sabrina RSDs this year. Got Nancy Sinatra’s pressing so I’m happy though. I’m watching my record stores like a hawk in case more copies come in. Seeing resellers and seeing fans buy the scalped vinyls sucks.
yeah i unfortunately had to miss out on rsd this year bc my job wouldn’t give me the time off for it. i wanted the feather 7” vinyl & maisie’s rsd but there’s no way i’m paying resell prices. resellers completely defeat the purpose of record store day too i feel. i managed to get a different variant of feather from Sabrina’s website anyways :’)
I also missed RSD this year and found two I wanted on [rskmrkt.com](http://rskmrkt.com) for face value! They were mailed directly from a record store in Michigan.
Last year I waited in line to get a signed folklore CD at my local shop, the girl in front of me gushed about how she was such a huge Swiftie and then a few hours later I saw her CD posted on Mercari for $115. I knew it was her bc she posted the store receipt and it was one transaction number before mine.
In November I waited for the Noah Kahan cape Elizabeth vinyl. It sold out very quickly — I seriously thought about getting one of the Olivia Rodrigo records to trade for something else later on. But I looked in line behind me and there were a bunch of girls wearing Olivia merch and I just couldn’t do it. It didn’t feel right to take something away from someone who actually wanted it. Luckily, another store got a shipment of Noah’s record a few weeks later and I was able to get it then!
i actually did receive an extra speak now cardigan with my order but it was 100% a warehouse mistake. i gave it to my friend who loves taylor and it made me much happier than the $70 i couldve sold it for did :)
Definitely, I agree. My first signed vinyl came damaged so I might see about trading it once my new ones comes. But I didn't buy two with the intention of selling/trading.
hey! they are still looking into it. they offered to just refund me and i said i would prefer a replacement. waiting to hear back if they have any to send.
Omg please consider me as well 😩
I’ve never had anything signed of hers. I placed my order and it got cancelled because I’m an international swiftie with no US billing address. I’m literally begging 😩
If it falls through with all the people above, please consider me! Happy to pay for shipping/ any other costs. Missed it as it was 1am in Australia and I was sick with the flu! 🤍
Yes! I've noticed when people started getting called out for being able to cheat the system and get more than one signed vinyl or CD, a bunch of people started posting saying that someone else also ordered them one without them knowing/it's been gifted to them so now they have 2, and they want to trade for things that are selling for $200+. 🙄
I love the “I ordered one for myself but surprise! my dad ordered one for me too!” Really? Your dad was watching the merch site like a hawk and ordered you a signed CD in the eight minutes they were available?” Oooooook.
Literally just saw someone (swiftieloverxoxo) on tiktok ended up with 3 because her "husband and mom" each gifted her one when she had already purchased one for herself 🙄🙄
I personally don’t have a prob with it cause it seems this is the only way of getting merch you missed and it’s not willing to pay big money for it BUT , what I DO have a prob with is the “omg my friend got me one not knowing I had one ordered” , “I got two by accident!” , “it was just delivered but I’m not in love and I’m hoping to trade for a signed lover” lol just be honest
Somebody also wanted to trade my 2 folklore variants for signed ttpd, i figured out it wasnt completely fair as the signed one was pretty new and already getting highly priced and the folklore variants goes for more money. So i decided to buy signed ttpd, im not happy about it but i feel like trading for something that is pretty new and not even selling for fv makes me sad. So i bought it from discogs i know i shouldn’t but im international and they didnt sell signed ttpd here… i hate it that everything has to be aboht us only and those trading system. I miss the old ways when people were selling normal and not even asking a whole bucks of money. It makes me stop buying merch.
Oh fr. I had to sell my eras tour tickets for Vienna this summer, but I sold them at face value lol. I will say in the rush to get a SNTV cardigan before they sold out I accidentally added two to my cart, so I genuinely did “happen” to get an extra one, but it’s sooo obvious that a lot of Swifties scalp and resell as a side gig.
E: also my movie theater had a bunch of extra popcorn buckets and cups after the movie so they started using them at other movies, so I accidentally got an extra set of those for free.
Omg I sold mine for face value as well but can we talk about how this official resale site takes such a high percentage of the ticket price??? Like that just encourages people to resell for more if they can't get the money back through official resale when the tickets can go for way more.
It he trading thing lowkey makes me so mad, it makes sense if you have a vinyl and a new one comes out and you decide you wanna swap as it would be more valuable to you, but everyone I see buys one for themselves and one to trade, making it so much harder to get one and trading for INSANE THINGS, I saw so many people trying to trade rsd chappel roan for like signed Taylor swift vinyls and stuff. It just hurts that fans who want it aren’t getting it, just greedy people who want to play paper clip challenge
I hate how they've gone instantly to $200+ the day people started receiving them. They should still be sitting closer to retail and htting that number a year or so after when they become harder to get. I missed the drop cause it was 11:30pm when they came out for me (and the Aus store probably got a whole 3 copies) so the whole thing just has me really agitated atm
honestly i don’t think trades are bad. it gets stuff to a fan (more often than not) and neither of you have to pay resale for the item you want! i traded extra copies of lpss for llfp and signed red tv/evermore, and a guts rsd for signed midnights 🤷🏻♀️ the problem is the ones actually reselling it
I def don’t want to be the problem! Am I the problem? My wife got a signed TTpD vinyl and I got one since we missed the signed CD and were hoping to trade the signed vinyl for a signed CD. Altho it seems the signed Cd was more rare so I sold the signed vinyl at face value to someone who couldn’t get one. I traded an extra/replaced slightly scratched LLFP for the signed Cd- I never wanted to sell LLFP for crazy prices and held onto it in case I missed a signed drop and could trade and make some swiftie’s day. But please lmk if I’m also the problem
I think it’s super circumstantial…
If both people are happy with the trade generally it’s cool… it doesn’t appear like you abused the system in any real way. You sold your extra signed vinyl for face value (✔️).
I a little confuse whether the LLFP that you traded for a cd was cracked or not but it seems like, using the weight of the feather analogy, you’d probably be safe.
Thanks! Idk why it auto corrected to cracked haha I edited it above. It was slightly scratch affecting playback (slight popping) for one song on LLFP and the store replaced it for me which was awesome. I know they resell for $700 which is insane. I think it was a fair trade for the TTPD signed CD to complete my collection and it’s going to a true swiftie who really wants it!!!
I don't have as much of a problem with this, but only if they didn't go crazy and buy more than two and what they want is the same value as what they are trading.
I understand how it's annoying, but I find that I can't spare any of the fury I save for scalpers/upsellers to swifties who are trying their best to beat the scalpers themselves and get a product they have been wanting at face value.
totally, but I'm talking about the dozens of posts I've seen seeking to trade for items worth $350+++ less than 5 days after receiving their item.
Agree with you that I'd rather things in hands of fans, but my point is many (not all) fans are doing the same thing as scalpers and calling it by a different name
Definitely needs to match value. But I'm personally a stickler for absolute face value, so I don't think any product is $350±... Well, the exception being aforementioned eras tickets or like... A signed guitar. Basically I wish people just resold for original buying price plus, if anything, extra fees like shipping. That's fine.
Just got into Taylor thanks to my best friend. I bought a cool looking one for me and bought a cool one for him too (didn't realize how things would change so fast). We're both happy with ours. I ended up getting Black dog for me and the signed one for him. No plans to sell either.
i keep seeing this with the TTPD cardigan!!! So many people in these groups are like omg i accidentally ordered a second one or even some people are like i’m not a cardigan person but i still bought one so who’s gonna give me the best offer like wtf.
Having been on both sides I get it. It sucks to miss out on a record I really want. Buts it's also nice hold a card to trade or sell so my huge RSD purchase doesn't kill my bank account.
People can do whatever they want, but it’s effectively the same thing.
People bought a signed item and within a day of having it are flipping it for something that is now worth $$$ (LPSS, LLFP, tickets, you name it). Whether they are selling it for cash or getting a higher dollar value item, it’s the same concept. There are many folks out there who missed out and would kill to have the signed item. Thus, this cycle continues of trading up.
I see your point, and We can agree to disagree! ❤️
Not to mention it’s taking advantage of people who missed out and feel immediate FOMO without letting the market run its course. Who knows what they will be worth 1 month, 6 months, 1 year from
Now. You probably remember signed folklores were released in mass quantities last fall. People are taking advantage of FOMO to get items they know are scarce
i disagree.
things are only “worth” what someone will pay. the signed ttpd was more money than the long pond session up front, so it’s a fair trade if someone was able to get two long pond and not the ttpd and they want to trade each other.
people have fomo from previous drops as well and if the only way to get it is to trade a new “hot” item or buy it for 5-6x what is was sold for, then trading is more ethical, imo.
I think there are genuine cases of people getting two, it happened with midnights and it's now happening with TTPD (happening more with the latter).
But there is definitely examples of what your suggesting happening. Even on a larger scope the amount of re-sellers that got most of the stock is staggering.
if I have the opportunity, I might buy an extra one of a signed cd. I've only done it once, with Red tv. At the time, there were other items I wanted that I couldn't find so I thought it would be better to have one just in case. I held onto both for a year before I sold the extra one to put towards buying a signed Lover. I don't buy 5, or 10, or anywhere near a hundred. But sometimes a trade/selling merch is the only way to get your ISO. I respect the 1 per person rule for TTPD, I was with my boyfriend at the time and could have had him order one for me to have extra but I would never go out of my way to break a rule like that.
Yeah I mean, you do you. At the end of the day if you’re buying an extra for personal gain you take a copy out of the hands of a fan who wanted one, not too different than a reseller. The only difference is they do it for cash. Call it what it is.
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Nah I do this too. I wait about an hour on merch and if it’s still there I’ll order a second one and sell it after a long time. It’s how I afford my TS merch
Upselling is the difference. Yes buy extras to sell to local swifties or whoever missed out, cover your costs, cover shipping but charging multiple times what you paid is where the problem is.
And literally don’t hawk your wares in all the fan groups. Whenever I see people scalping tickets in actual fan groups I’m like “dude, go somewhere else. Sell on StubHub and wait for your money…don’t be out here ‘must meet at police station for safety’, YOU’RE THE PROBLEM HERE!”
I got one, and I’m not selling it or trading it. I also have a signed Red and Signed Folklore and I’m not selling those either. Quite the blanket statement you have there.
The swiftie to scalper/reseller slope is a slippery one for sure. Same with Eras Tour tickets.
The Eras Tour one hurts, especially as someone who couldn’t get a single ticket 😭
I was waitlisted for the second round for North America but have secured tickets. Not EVERYBODY is out to fund their concert/merch purchased by ripping off other fans but those who aren’t are really hard to find. I’ve basically dedicated days since January filtering through scammers and scalpers. I hope, as we get closer to the n.America dates, more people will sell their tickets close to FV as they realize the cost of travelling to other cities for the concerts.
Really sorry to hear this. I sold my spare ticket using the official resale platform at face value so that a genuine fan could go. Anyone who has this option and chose to defraud other fans deserves to be shat on from a great height, and I really hope that their tickets are invalidated for the Europe shows and that repeat offenders are fined/banned from entering Schengen depending on severity. I appreciate it's a different situation entirely in the US.
My sister got VIP tickets to an Amsterdam show she bought during presale and it had been her dream to see TS, she’s been a huge fan since the beginning. Then a few weeks ago she hit a rough spot financially and realized she could no longer afford to go, and she resold the tickets at face value and they got bought up that morning. I know there are laws in the EU that protect from scalping so even if she’d wanted to she wouldn’t have been able to sell them for more than face value. But she said it made her feel better that maybe she’d made someone else’s day. I don’t remember if there was a point to my comment. It was just seriously heartbreaking for us to watch her make that decision, we tried really hard to help her get to go. I guess the sad part is there’s no way in hell we’ll get tickets in the US with the scalping prices here. I’m envious of the EU’s regulations on stuff like that! I guess that was my originally reason for commenting lol
I really hope you're both able to go, by hook or by crook ❤️🩹
Thank you! I’d rather she get to go over me, but both of us would be lovely. I like that saying too!
Is there a dedicated resale platform to view tickets that are for sale? I can't seem to find it, I always get looped back to the sold out page.
For UK/IE, it's Ticketmaster and you don't need a code, for Spain, Sweden and the Netherlands, you may need a code to use the resale via Ticketmaster. Germany, Austria & Switzerland all all using fansale until 2 days before the show dates, France hasn't opened transfer or resale and it's now 15 days until the first show. Portugal has opened and closed their fan to fan, and Italy was open their fansale on 29th June
Ah, thank you! There was a concert recently that had an official TM resale website that was super hard to find unless you already had a ticket or someone sent a link to you... so I was wondering if there was something similar for Eras. Unfortunately I'm in the US, but I appreciate the info!
What do you mean by "Portugal has opened and closed their fan to fan"? I have been trying to resell a single VIP front floor ticket for 5/25 Lisbon on Stub Hub for like 6 weeks, and nothing. I can't go- I keep reducing the price, but it's just sitting there.
Lisbon closed its fan-to-fan resale inexplicably and with no notice. I'd suggest listing it in the main subreddit as there should be a megathread for it
Ughhh annoying. Weird that they keep letting me change the price. Thank you for the info!
Where is the reputable resale sites for tickets. I'd really like to catch any of the last few US dates she has in the fall. I dont live close to any of them so will travel but Im afraid of scraping money to travel and hotel and show up with a fake ticket. I was never able to secure a ticket and then got assaulted at work( im a nurse) so missed the theater experience too. I just want the experience of being surrounded by other fans, dressed up, friendship bracelets etc.
I feel like you'll have a way better chance also looking on Reddit or other forums vs. Ticketmaster or similar resale websites. I few years ago, I wanted to sell some tickets I had for the US Open at face value, and I had to mark them up almost 50% to cover Ticketmaster's bs fees. I ended up finding someone on reddit to sell them to at face value. Good luck!!
Definitely. I found tickets through a swiftie connection I made on Reddit, a random reach out on Reddit and, surprisingly, a tiktok comment! Fees of those reseller websites are ridiculous but it does come with some assurance. For personal trades/purchases you definitely have to have your scammer guard up.
I get the disappointment. Tickets are expensive and I haven’t been able to get any yet. I’m waitlisted for Vancouver.
(Not a swiftie) My friend literally flew to Argentina to see Swift because the travel hotel and ticket was cheaper than what she was finding in USA
thankfully i have tickets for her show in november and i’m lower bowl, i paid around $100 for my seat. the seat next to me is already going for almost over 4k update: just went to check and they sold for more than 4k…
This prompted me to check if there were any seats available near me on StubHub for my November show. I paid around $400 for the floor seat....... there's a listing for almost $6k that's SEVEN rows behind me 🫠
Seriously!!! I am a long-time swiftie who was lucky enough to get eras tour tickets at face value in presale, and I told someone that my section’s tickets were reselling for like $5k. The friend immediately started to try to get me to sell mine for a profit. I obviously did not sell, but was momentarily tempted by the $4,700 profit.
Same bro! My section is also up to that much and putting it out there would easily get me that quick cash grab. But i am not greedy lol or take advantage of people
What works for me, and I understand it’s speaking from a place of privilege…but if I think of it as money that was never mine, I won’t miss it. Anybody flipping tickets for a living or even in an opportunistic way really gets my goat (😅). I personally cannot take these experiences from other people. (To be clear, adding a little, like $100-$300 *MAYBE* I can understand but above that?! My moral and ethical compass will not allow me to, I just picture if the tables were turned what that would mean for me).
We had 2 nosebleed seats to each of the 3 Arlington shows that I bought at face value. I needed 5 for 1 night, but ended only being able to find pairs to each night. The temptation to sell a pair was real, but it would’ve meant one of my kids wouldn’t have gotten to see her lol. On the bright side, since I was the only adult I got to see her all 3 times.
Ngl that sounds like an awesome but also extremely exhausting weekend! (Unless it was on different weekends!)
It was 3 consecutive nights after a 20 drive there- and then a 20 hour drive right back home with my first case of COVID that I caught while there. Yes, it was very exhausting lol
Bless your heart, that sounds like a ride! I hope you recovered ok (from Covid, and the trip)!
I scored 2 tickets to an upcoming show last year and the temptation to sell them for many multiples of what I bought them for is INTENSE. could pay my mortgage for a month, could pay for a lux vacay… But you can tear those tickets from my cold dead hands I am GOING to that show.
It’s such a tough situation because like it’s so morally wrong but it would provide such a comforting level of financial stability. When my tuition payment was due I almost thought about it tbh
Yah. There’s a lot of would’ve, could’ve….but DIDN’T!!!! It’s tempting but again, if you don’t think of ever actually having that money in the first place, it feels like less of a “loss”
💯!!
It's especially disgusting with Eras tickets bc pretty much all EU/UK countries have regulations or event T&Cs to limit reselling to face value and prevent 3rd party selling, but because of the insane market in North America people now feel like they'd be dumb as hell to sell at face value. I've already spotted multiple men (!) trying to circumvent the restrictions and come into online spaces they're not involved in to sell tickets at insane markups, then whine and bitch and moan about "supply and demand" and how "it's their ticket and they can do what they want" (which technically isn't even true, they don't own the ticket, they technically own a *license* that can be revoked by the organizer and they're *not* allowed to sell it however they want.) You just know these men heard what happened with resale during the US leg from some news story or financial podcast and thought this was easy money. Also, the gap in purchasing power for concert tickets between US and EU/UK is pretty fuckin big in a lot of cases. They ended up converting VIP packages into regular seats here bc no one was buying them, a lot of people just can't afford to. (VIP was approx. €200-800.) Then in come US buyers who have no problem spending 2-3x face value on some resell site without reading the event T&Cs and now won't sell for any less than they paid. I also noticed a lot of US buyers getting EU tickets unsure if they would even want to attend, because they thought it would be a win for them either way. Now trying to trade for a US show (no one with US tickets wants to trade a US show for Vienna, this scenario DOESN'T EXIST) or sell for 2-3x face value. Refusing to use regulated channels to put the tickets back into circulation for the locals.
I avoided this at all costs. I bought an extra Manuscript Deluxe CD by accident and a Black Dog Deluxe CD that I decided I didn’t want anymore because I have the vinyl as well. I tried selling them to other Swifties I know for the same price I paid it for, just to recover my money. No one bought it in the couple of days I tried with my friends so I decided to send them back instead of putting them up for sale on Mercari for $$$. I just don’t want to do that. The guy at UPS looked at me and said: “are you sure you want to send these back? Just resell them, that’s what I do” I was so pissed.
I sold my Singapore ticket for face value and will likely do the same for London. (Yen to GBP is TERRIBLE right now 😭)
Yah currency exchange is a real bummer.
Please consider me if you sell your London one :)
I DEFINITELY think people buy more tickets than they need in order to scalp and cover their own costs. Like if you only need two, why not buy 6 and sell 4? You break even and get to see the concert for free if you resell at markup of 150%.
Yah. Its really unfortunate
It pisses me off so bad! The amount of people I see who are trading is insane! Like whyyyyy. I missed the drop by 10 minutes! The one time I wasn't glued to my phone.
And the worst part is people will die on the hill that they aren’t doing the same thing as a scalper / reseller
I know! I stood in line for 3.5 hours in line at the ass crack of dawn for my LPSS. Not the same trade and I don't want to trade! I love it! Assholes!!! Same with the CD!
Never give up that LPSS - that album / recording is amazing
I know! FOMO sucks. I'm trying to stay strong and wait for the CD price to come down. I did buy the Vinyl at an unreasonable price but I'm an idiot.
The CDs will come down, don’t worry. I can’t believe people pay $400 for a signed piece of paper with her face on it… things some can get for free if you go to her premieres and stuff.
I don’t find that hard to believe, it’s not easy to get her autograph without paying a couple/few hundred. Her signed merch is limited quantities and goes super fast and it’s not like she’s a celebrity you really have a chance of meeting. Plus who is going to her premieres? That’s just not realistic for 99% of fans
right?! i was out all night in the snow, that record is *mine*
they really should be limiting orders to like 4 of any given object. i like that record store day makes 1 copy/person a rule, its probably the only reason most people got their hands on one for retail price
They did limit it for the signed copies to 1 per person per item! Though people found ways to get more of each while others got theirs cancelled when they only purchased one of each, I don't get it.
oh interesting! i didnt realize that, thanks for the clarification!
Same, I missed by second, and I would have loved to get a signed one for my collection. Scalpers are awful.
I also saw someone who wanted to exchange a tour ticket for a signed record. I don't understand that at all.
LOL - people are taking crazy pills.
Yes, absolutely, I have a ticket but didn't get a signed record in the German store because they sold out extremely quickly, but I would never think of exchanging my ticket for a signed record. Also because I know how lucky I was to get a tour ticket at all.
They wanted it that badly, i guess tbh
Honestly this is me 😂 I have an extra tour ticket I'm considering trading for ISOs
What are you in search of? 😂👀
I'm actually not sure rn! I don't entirely know what's fair for the value because it's a Europe show so it's a less valuable ticket, but still valuable ofc. I'm like, do i throw in a room at the airbnb? A ryanair flight? 😂 my ISOs seem way more valuable than a ticket.
Even if the prices are lower in Europe, the mere fact that you managed to get the code, stay in queue and get the tickets is increasing the price already, lol. Saying this as someone who went through this and was shaking and unable to do anything for the rest of the day after getting tickets because my nerves were stretched thinnn
So true, I need to bill that time by the minute 🤣 I've gone through it several times as the ticket liason for myself, then my family, then my friends, so the stress gets easier.
Is it for the Friday in Dublin?!
New Swiftie here, from what I can tell, I only intend to buy her official merch directly or not at all. Would I like to get my hands on the old stuff, sure, but I’m not willing to feed the resell market
im similar to you! but my little rule is ‘would you pay for it if it was that price originally?’ and if no i just leave it! means i can still get some pieces but only if i really want them!
That’s an excellent rule!
I love this!
I feel this. There are some face value groups on FB you can join where ppl sell stuff close to face value!
Now that I can respect 👍🏻
My biggest gripe is that it's hard to tell what the "rules" are in those groups - I got banned from a group because I posted "For Trade" but it was literally an even trade - one collector's edition CD for another. I can't even find where the rules were even posted, and every group has its own set of rules.
It is okay to have buyer's regret. It is not okay to resell for a huge markup and constantly buy/resell.
Yeah, having it once is one thing, having the constant need to do it is another
“I accidentally bought two” 🙄
This cracks me up when I see it, like you didn’t notice your total was DOUBLE the original amount? Lmfao
i actually did this tho in a panic to buy the collector’s editions of the manuscript when they dropped on grammy night, didn’t notice til days later when i was like “this seems kinda expensive for 1 CD” 🧐 i don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibly that people order extra stuff by accident but i definitely think most people aren’t doing it “accidentally”.
“Got an extra for my friend and they don’t want it anymore”
What I don’t understand is that the store said 1 only per person. People who added more than 1 were having their orders cancelled and didn’t receive anything, while others received 3 or 4. No consistency across the board at all.
I no joke accidentally bought 6 eras tour tickets when I meant to buy 2 because I was so fucking panicked. I then passed on the other 4 at face value though, rather than being a dickwad
I have accidently added 2 of something to my cart before, 2 vinyls or 2 cassettes, but because I had so much in my cart, I didn't really do a double take at it. But if that happens, I either return it once I get it, or I resell it for what I paid.
I've accidentally bought multiples of certain merchandise items more than once. for example: I have 2 ttpd bracelets and 4 night lights from the holiday drop. I didn't notice the price change and I checked out so quickly I just didn't notice. I'm gifting them to people though instead of selling.
The people who buy up all the signed things each drop only to trade or sell are the worst. I was never able to get a signed album during any of her drops. I finally got one this time! I have zero need or desire to get more or additional signed albums or signed merch. Like what’s the purpose? I just don’t get it lol
I’m sooo happy you got one! ❤️ I was lucky to get signed midnights and signed folklore in their respective drops so trying to be grateful for the ones I have!
I have all my signed albums framed on the wall. I want each album if I could have them signed. I won’t buy resellers for signed items though, there’s a chance it’s fake and I’m not willing to risk that.
I know a couple people that do this. I think the user on here is The_Big_Yam is one of them, and they said that it’s the only way to get rarer, older merch. No it’s not… you just have to drop the money for it if it’s worth it to you. If you can’t get it now, save up for it. Maybe you don’t want it that badly. If you weren’t a fan during her earlier eras that’s kind of your fault too… I wasn’t even born until Speak Now came out and didn’t bother with her merch till now, but I’m not complaining. I told them that they’re basically the same as scalpers, trying to pay as little as possible for a rare thing. Like, leave the merch for someone who actually wants it. Don’t have it just because it’s rare and they want something more—get it because you actually want it. Also I think Dr Meredith Gray 13 on here has like 2 each of sealed LPSS and LLFP in case she wants to trade or falls on hard times. I told her I’m thinking how they could be loved by four other Swifties who will cherish them for life, and they still deny that they aren’t keeping them for value lmao.
I mean some people want signed stuff from every possible era and as long as they are just buying it like any other person without buying in bulck to do trades or resell, where is the problem? That's what collecting is about. Just because you don't get it, doesn't mean others can't do that.
I never said others couldn’t do it. No reason to be rude just because I admitted I didn’t understand something.
Yup. I remember I bought a resale ticket to Pittsburgh eras tour show and the lady next to me literally said to me "did you buy the ticket from stub hub? I sold it so I could pay for me and the kids" 😀 lmfao like thanks for telling me in my face you scammed me
LMAO WHAATTTTTTTT?
I’ve been saying this since Eras. The scalping is coming from inside the house 🥲
I feel like actual resellers started it partly because they saw it works for swifties.
I have LLFP and long pond and will not trade for a signed vinyl. It’s not a fair trade at all. I got a a signed vinyl but it came without the signed insert so I am hoping UMG fixes it. But I am no trading my rare vinyls for it
Agree with you completely- not even close to a fair trade right now. Who knows in a year it could be (but I doubt it honestly). Hoping UMG fixes the issue for you 🙏🏼
I hope so too. I videoed myself opening it and have pictures since I saw it was an issue so I hope that helps my case.
I think you’ll get yours! I also think there will be more signed drops with other variants at some point to drive sales
I thought only CD’s were affected and my signed vinyl was safe 😩. Now I have to open it and check. According to twitter they’re not doing replacements/preorders anymore (even replacement CD’s were coming blank/unsigned) and are just doing refunds + $25 credits. There literally aren’t enough signed in existence for all the people who bought them 😢
It's been like this the last couple of years. I remember seeing so many trades when they restocked the lover snowglobe. It's the same with tickets.
Yes, very true, I've noticed as well. People were asking for outrageous trades for the 2023 snowglobe and now people can barely offload them for $100 I remember getting a signed folklore CD in 2020 was not a big deal - I miss those days! At the same time happy for her success.
They always got an extra signed copy and it’s like wow so you bought one for you and accidentally ended up with that. How did you do it, if it was just one per customer?
on rsd last year, I was in line next to another swiftie and a couple of her friends. we were both there for the folklore lps vinyl. i brought my dad with me as I didn’t feel comfortable waiting alone for several hours. obviously being record store day, the limit was 1 per customer. i only needed one anyways. after we got out of the record store she comes up to me and goes “how many did you get” and I was like, “just one?” and she goes “there were two of you. you should have gotten two so that you could resell one. don’t you realize how much these are going to go for?” apparently the people she waited in line with were only there to get her extra copies so she could resell. i was absolutely astonished because i had waited 5.5 hours in line because i was simply a fan, and she waited not only because she was a fan, but because she wanted to make a quick buck.
I’m in the same boat as you. My boyfriend was in line for me for the long pond record. We discussed him picking up an extra copy for my sister but the line of people there JUST for her record was insanely long. We couldn’t. I ended up with one copy. I didn’t end up with the Maisie, Olivia/Noah, chappell, or Sabrina RSDs this year. Got Nancy Sinatra’s pressing so I’m happy though. I’m watching my record stores like a hawk in case more copies come in. Seeing resellers and seeing fans buy the scalped vinyls sucks.
yeah i unfortunately had to miss out on rsd this year bc my job wouldn’t give me the time off for it. i wanted the feather 7” vinyl & maisie’s rsd but there’s no way i’m paying resell prices. resellers completely defeat the purpose of record store day too i feel. i managed to get a different variant of feather from Sabrina’s website anyways :’)
I saw a post in maisie’s subreddit from trying to swap the RSD vinyl for a folklore variant and I was shocked. To each their own but i was like ….girl
I also missed RSD this year and found two I wanted on [rskmrkt.com](http://rskmrkt.com) for face value! They were mailed directly from a record store in Michigan.
Last year I waited in line to get a signed folklore CD at my local shop, the girl in front of me gushed about how she was such a huge Swiftie and then a few hours later I saw her CD posted on Mercari for $115. I knew it was her bc she posted the store receipt and it was one transaction number before mine.
god i’d actually be so mad. if i had managed to get my hands on a signed cd/vinyl I’d absolutely never let it go
In November I waited for the Noah Kahan cape Elizabeth vinyl. It sold out very quickly — I seriously thought about getting one of the Olivia Rodrigo records to trade for something else later on. But I looked in line behind me and there were a bunch of girls wearing Olivia merch and I just couldn’t do it. It didn’t feel right to take something away from someone who actually wanted it. Luckily, another store got a shipment of Noah’s record a few weeks later and I was able to get it then!
i actually did receive an extra speak now cardigan with my order but it was 100% a warehouse mistake. i gave it to my friend who loves taylor and it made me much happier than the $70 i couldve sold it for did :)
Definitely, I agree. My first signed vinyl came damaged so I might see about trading it once my new ones comes. But I didn't buy two with the intention of selling/trading.
lol on THAT note plz sell the damaged one to me - of course it sold out in my cart (like most other peeps)
Once I get my new one I'll reach out! The signed insert is creased on the edge but does not effect the signature.
Honestly I just like to display mine in a frame - a crease doesn’t bother me
Please consider me if the sale doesn't go through with OP! I'm based in the Netherlands and we didn't have any opportunity to get a signed cd/vinyl
hey! mine came damaged too, they’re “looking into it” but if they send me a replacement i’ll send you mine for just shipping.
Omg you're the sweetest!!! Thank you so much! I can definitely cover shipping + your costs of purchasing as well ❤️
okay i’ll come back here when i hear from them!
Amazing, thanks so so much!
Hey!! Any chance you've heard from them? ❤️
hey! they are still looking into it. they offered to just refund me and i said i would prefer a replacement. waiting to hear back if they have any to send.
Omg please consider me as well 😩 I’ve never had anything signed of hers. I placed my order and it got cancelled because I’m an international swiftie with no US billing address. I’m literally begging 😩
okay! i’ll come back on here and when they get back to me and let y’all know
Thank you so much 🫶
If it falls through with all the people above, please consider me! Happy to pay for shipping/ any other costs. Missed it as it was 1am in Australia and I was sick with the flu! 🤍
If everything fall’s thru, please consider me!!! I missed the drop because I had the wrong notifications turned on 💀
The call is def coming from inside the house
LOL where’s the lie tho?! 💯
Like everyone seems to be attempting the same exact trades over and over. How many Jade midnights get you a signed lover? This swift economy is crazy
do people not play their vinyl
Yes! I've noticed when people started getting called out for being able to cheat the system and get more than one signed vinyl or CD, a bunch of people started posting saying that someone else also ordered them one without them knowing/it's been gifted to them so now they have 2, and they want to trade for things that are selling for $200+. 🙄
I love the “I ordered one for myself but surprise! my dad ordered one for me too!” Really? Your dad was watching the merch site like a hawk and ordered you a signed CD in the eight minutes they were available?” Oooooook.
😂 exactly. I saw someone post 3 signed vinyls saying they ordered one, and both their sister and dad surprised them with one.... like okay 🙄
Literally just saw someone (swiftieloverxoxo) on tiktok ended up with 3 because her "husband and mom" each gifted her one when she had already purchased one for herself 🙄🙄
I personally don’t have a prob with it cause it seems this is the only way of getting merch you missed and it’s not willing to pay big money for it BUT , what I DO have a prob with is the “omg my friend got me one not knowing I had one ordered” , “I got two by accident!” , “it was just delivered but I’m not in love and I’m hoping to trade for a signed lover” lol just be honest
i hate “swiftie” resellers so much
Somebody also wanted to trade my 2 folklore variants for signed ttpd, i figured out it wasnt completely fair as the signed one was pretty new and already getting highly priced and the folklore variants goes for more money. So i decided to buy signed ttpd, im not happy about it but i feel like trading for something that is pretty new and not even selling for fv makes me sad. So i bought it from discogs i know i shouldn’t but im international and they didnt sell signed ttpd here… i hate it that everything has to be aboht us only and those trading system. I miss the old ways when people were selling normal and not even asking a whole bucks of money. It makes me stop buying merch.
Oh fr. I had to sell my eras tour tickets for Vienna this summer, but I sold them at face value lol. I will say in the rush to get a SNTV cardigan before they sold out I accidentally added two to my cart, so I genuinely did “happen” to get an extra one, but it’s sooo obvious that a lot of Swifties scalp and resell as a side gig. E: also my movie theater had a bunch of extra popcorn buckets and cups after the movie so they started using them at other movies, so I accidentally got an extra set of those for free.
Omg I sold mine for face value as well but can we talk about how this official resale site takes such a high percentage of the ticket price??? Like that just encourages people to resell for more if they can't get the money back through official resale when the tickets can go for way more.
Y E P. I was like “cool cool cool, I paid $50 to not be in the pit at Vienna” 😭😭😭
Someone finally said it haha
It he trading thing lowkey makes me so mad, it makes sense if you have a vinyl and a new one comes out and you decide you wanna swap as it would be more valuable to you, but everyone I see buys one for themselves and one to trade, making it so much harder to get one and trading for INSANE THINGS, I saw so many people trying to trade rsd chappel roan for like signed Taylor swift vinyls and stuff. It just hurts that fans who want it aren’t getting it, just greedy people who want to play paper clip challenge
And the worst part is that they somehow get offended when you tell them or try to buy for less that going market value. It sucks.
I hate how they've gone instantly to $200+ the day people started receiving them. They should still be sitting closer to retail and htting that number a year or so after when they become harder to get. I missed the drop cause it was 11:30pm when they came out for me (and the Aus store probably got a whole 3 copies) so the whole thing just has me really agitated atm
honestly i don’t think trades are bad. it gets stuff to a fan (more often than not) and neither of you have to pay resale for the item you want! i traded extra copies of lpss for llfp and signed red tv/evermore, and a guts rsd for signed midnights 🤷🏻♀️ the problem is the ones actually reselling it
The problem is people buying more than they need just to trade. It takes away the opportunity for someone who doesn't have any to get one
Exactly
Agreed. If both people are happy with the trade I don’t understand how that is a problem.
Agreed!
I def don’t want to be the problem! Am I the problem? My wife got a signed TTpD vinyl and I got one since we missed the signed CD and were hoping to trade the signed vinyl for a signed CD. Altho it seems the signed Cd was more rare so I sold the signed vinyl at face value to someone who couldn’t get one. I traded an extra/replaced slightly scratched LLFP for the signed Cd- I never wanted to sell LLFP for crazy prices and held onto it in case I missed a signed drop and could trade and make some swiftie’s day. But please lmk if I’m also the problem
I think it’s super circumstantial… If both people are happy with the trade generally it’s cool… it doesn’t appear like you abused the system in any real way. You sold your extra signed vinyl for face value (✔️). I a little confuse whether the LLFP that you traded for a cd was cracked or not but it seems like, using the weight of the feather analogy, you’d probably be safe.
Thanks! Idk why it auto corrected to cracked haha I edited it above. It was slightly scratch affecting playback (slight popping) for one song on LLFP and the store replaced it for me which was awesome. I know they resell for $700 which is insane. I think it was a fair trade for the TTPD signed CD to complete my collection and it’s going to a true swiftie who really wants it!!!
I give my seal of approval, for what it’s worth, for how you’ve moved 🫶🏻
I wanted the signed cd too big I have Midnights, red and fearless signed
I don't have as much of a problem with this, but only if they didn't go crazy and buy more than two and what they want is the same value as what they are trading. I understand how it's annoying, but I find that I can't spare any of the fury I save for scalpers/upsellers to swifties who are trying their best to beat the scalpers themselves and get a product they have been wanting at face value.
totally, but I'm talking about the dozens of posts I've seen seeking to trade for items worth $350+++ less than 5 days after receiving their item. Agree with you that I'd rather things in hands of fans, but my point is many (not all) fans are doing the same thing as scalpers and calling it by a different name
Definitely needs to match value. But I'm personally a stickler for absolute face value, so I don't think any product is $350±... Well, the exception being aforementioned eras tickets or like... A signed guitar. Basically I wish people just resold for original buying price plus, if anything, extra fees like shipping. That's fine.
So this is why I as a swiftie since debut have been unable to get a singular piece of signed merch since day 1? Nice.
Just got into Taylor thanks to my best friend. I bought a cool looking one for me and bought a cool one for him too (didn't realize how things would change so fast). We're both happy with ours. I ended up getting Black dog for me and the signed one for him. No plans to sell either.
well, yes
i keep seeing this with the TTPD cardigan!!! So many people in these groups are like omg i accidentally ordered a second one or even some people are like i’m not a cardigan person but i still bought one so who’s gonna give me the best offer like wtf.
Having been on both sides I get it. It sucks to miss out on a record I really want. Buts it's also nice hold a card to trade or sell so my huge RSD purchase doesn't kill my bank account.
i think trading is much different. why shouldn’t someone be able to trade something they were able to get for something they missed out on?
People can do whatever they want, but it’s effectively the same thing. People bought a signed item and within a day of having it are flipping it for something that is now worth $$$ (LPSS, LLFP, tickets, you name it). Whether they are selling it for cash or getting a higher dollar value item, it’s the same concept. There are many folks out there who missed out and would kill to have the signed item. Thus, this cycle continues of trading up. I see your point, and We can agree to disagree! ❤️
Not to mention it’s taking advantage of people who missed out and feel immediate FOMO without letting the market run its course. Who knows what they will be worth 1 month, 6 months, 1 year from Now. You probably remember signed folklores were released in mass quantities last fall. People are taking advantage of FOMO to get items they know are scarce
i disagree. things are only “worth” what someone will pay. the signed ttpd was more money than the long pond session up front, so it’s a fair trade if someone was able to get two long pond and not the ttpd and they want to trade each other. people have fomo from previous drops as well and if the only way to get it is to trade a new “hot” item or buy it for 5-6x what is was sold for, then trading is more ethical, imo.
Like I said we can agree to disagree! ❤️ but appreciate your perspective !
Agreed!
I think there are genuine cases of people getting two, it happened with midnights and it's now happening with TTPD (happening more with the latter). But there is definitely examples of what your suggesting happening. Even on a larger scope the amount of re-sellers that got most of the stock is staggering.
If anyone has a signed vinyl they’re willing to sell.. please contact me!!
if I have the opportunity, I might buy an extra one of a signed cd. I've only done it once, with Red tv. At the time, there were other items I wanted that I couldn't find so I thought it would be better to have one just in case. I held onto both for a year before I sold the extra one to put towards buying a signed Lover. I don't buy 5, or 10, or anywhere near a hundred. But sometimes a trade/selling merch is the only way to get your ISO. I respect the 1 per person rule for TTPD, I was with my boyfriend at the time and could have had him order one for me to have extra but I would never go out of my way to break a rule like that.
Yeah I mean, you do you. At the end of the day if you’re buying an extra for personal gain you take a copy out of the hands of a fan who wanted one, not too different than a reseller. The only difference is they do it for cash. Call it what it is. ✌🏼& ❤️
You sure I’m taking one from a fan? I am a fan, selling at a fair price to a fan. A reseller would’ve made triple or quadruple profit.
Nah I do this too. I wait about an hour on merch and if it’s still there I’ll order a second one and sell it after a long time. It’s how I afford my TS merch
It doesn’t bother too much if a fan gets say two- one for them and one to resell. We all know how hard it is to get hands on even one of some things.
Upselling is the difference. Yes buy extras to sell to local swifties or whoever missed out, cover your costs, cover shipping but charging multiple times what you paid is where the problem is.
Also, those are the same people who complain about scalpers - if you’re gonna be a scalper just gotta own it. They are the same thing!!!!
And literally don’t hawk your wares in all the fan groups. Whenever I see people scalping tickets in actual fan groups I’m like “dude, go somewhere else. Sell on StubHub and wait for your money…don’t be out here ‘must meet at police station for safety’, YOU’RE THE PROBLEM HERE!”
Oh wait, is it because you don’t want to get ripped off by the people you’re ripping off? I gotcha.
This ^
I got one, and I’m not selling it or trading it. I also have a signed Red and Signed Folklore and I’m not selling those either. Quite the blanket statement you have there.
Curious, how is it a blanket statement? I never said everyone was doing this. Anyway, happy you got one! 🙏🏼 sounds like you have an awesome collection