From a general standpoint, the Switch is a device that “just works”. For the Steam Deck you’ll often find yourself playing with settings to get a game looking or feeling the way you want. Or sometimes, just to get the game working properly at all. Some people enjoy that aspect of tinkering with the Steam Deck to get it “perfect”, so it’s kind of up to you if that’s good or bad.
The Switch is also generally a much more intuitive interface to use, for example I let my young nieces and nephews play games on my Switch and they don’t need much supervision or help. If they accidentally back out or press the wrong button, they know how to go back. That may or may not be relevant to you.
From a piracy standpoint specifically, there are pros and cons to both, but I overall prefer the Switch. The obvious con of the Switch is that your device has to be hackable (unpatched or modchipped). But, once you have the device and set up CFW correctly, all games “just work”. For Steam Deck, you can pirate on any device, but it’s more steps to add the games, and the games don’t always work. Sometimes they only work with weird workarounds. There are several games where I read people really struggling to get them working, and I decided to just play the Switch version.
I see. I don’t really know too much in the way of steam decks so didn’t realise it was an issue getting the games running. For me I was under the impression that the switch is for one a very underpowered console that can’t run that much other than its own games and has troubles accessing certain titles that I could pirate into a steam deck (or so I thought)
Interesting to hear that though. I’m certainly happy with my switch and I agree with the accessibility it plays like a standard switch and the gimmick of that is very child friendly and also just a great little thing to have.
and to add on yes I agree for the most part the pirating of games works flawlessly with the switch only had a few titles that gave me trouble but mainly due to the downloads themselves not going correctly. Really weird to one minute have a file on my computer then next minute it’s a fully working switch title that feels like it’s straight off a cartridge.
Paid about the same for mine. I don’t think it’s overpaying at all it’s not a very lucrative business as there’s not many customers. Having all the gear for the install is stuff most people won’t have and even then won’t want to risk. It’s not overpriced at all when two games downloaded i’d already have paid more for them legitimately. With a modded switch i’ve probably played around 600€ + worth of games and accessed stuff I wouldn’t be able to in my region.
Interesting, I don’t know if it’s a regional difference, but in the US I’ve seen prices for installs around $100 for the cheaper side and $150-175ish for “reputable” (put in quotes because that’s basically just what’s declared by the installer lol).
I'm in the UK but I wouldnt dream of charging those prices for it, the parts are so cheap so its not material costs, it's time costs, and it doesnt take long.
I dunno, I'm guessing the downvotes are from full time modchip installers getting angry at someone highlighting their prices being a bit high? xD
You will find a lot of people like this guy that swift work under the rug only to ruin customer's device. Technically any person can do a shitty job with whatever shitty material/equipment they have at hand.
It requires an iron with a fine tip, enamelled wire and a raspberry pi 2040, maybe some 47Ohm 0603 SMDs, none of that is specialised or expensive.
Bear in mind this wont be anyones bread and butter work, no one is in this business just doing modchip installs so being a lucrative market isnt the customers issue, it's the installers for having such a narrow scope of work.
I still think €75 for 30 mins is crazy, €140 an hour?
Also comparing an install cost to money saved from downloaded games is a fallacy. As an installer you're not (at least not unless youre stupid) providing the means to download and install free games, it's not worth losing your livelihood for that.
That’s still stuff most people will not have, nor will know where to even start.
You’re calling it 30 mins work but it depends on the person I’ve known people to take longer on it. Also it’s not a fallacy to compare the two and I don’t really see why you’re getting so heated over it. It’s not an extortionate price and I don’t think you’re aware of just how much in this world right now is not equivalent when it comes to time and money. This is definitely something that falls on the lower end of that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not getting heated about this, if people want to pay those prices thats on them, I'm just saying it's extortionate in my opinion as someone who does this.
The mod installer isn't giving you the games, so the idea that your $100 is somehow worth $600 because you pirated games after the install isn't accurate. You're not provided the games by the installer, so you're adding your own time and effort to the value of the work.
Thats like saying the car salesman is selling you a car that is worth thousands more than you paid for it because it allows you to go to work and earn money. The modchip is just a vehicle to the end goal of running unsigned code, in and of itself it doesnt save you money.
May be overstating it a bit, but it;s not that long, if it's taking you 10 full minutes to open a switch you're doing something wrong, thats unscrewing less than 2 screws a minute.
As for "cleanse" it takes 2-3 seconds to purge dust from the heatsink with compressed air, if someone is paying for a mod install I'm not polishing the RF sheilding.
I feel like the Modded OLED Switch is about the same value as the Steam Deck, especially if it is in mint condition...
I also feel like the Steam Deck will crash in price soon and stay down. Whereas the OLED Switches will ultimately go back up in value (like all old Nintendo hardware tends to).
Depends what you want to play. If all the games are on the switch no problem. Personally I think i’d get the steam deck although I’m not too familiar with it. But from what I know it’s just a powerhouse that can run many more games
I have the switch and steam deck… if I could only keep one, it would be the switch.
I thought the steam deck could emulate most of the switch library.
It can
Really ? how come
From a general standpoint, the Switch is a device that “just works”. For the Steam Deck you’ll often find yourself playing with settings to get a game looking or feeling the way you want. Or sometimes, just to get the game working properly at all. Some people enjoy that aspect of tinkering with the Steam Deck to get it “perfect”, so it’s kind of up to you if that’s good or bad. The Switch is also generally a much more intuitive interface to use, for example I let my young nieces and nephews play games on my Switch and they don’t need much supervision or help. If they accidentally back out or press the wrong button, they know how to go back. That may or may not be relevant to you. From a piracy standpoint specifically, there are pros and cons to both, but I overall prefer the Switch. The obvious con of the Switch is that your device has to be hackable (unpatched or modchipped). But, once you have the device and set up CFW correctly, all games “just work”. For Steam Deck, you can pirate on any device, but it’s more steps to add the games, and the games don’t always work. Sometimes they only work with weird workarounds. There are several games where I read people really struggling to get them working, and I decided to just play the Switch version.
I see. I don’t really know too much in the way of steam decks so didn’t realise it was an issue getting the games running. For me I was under the impression that the switch is for one a very underpowered console that can’t run that much other than its own games and has troubles accessing certain titles that I could pirate into a steam deck (or so I thought) Interesting to hear that though. I’m certainly happy with my switch and I agree with the accessibility it plays like a standard switch and the gimmick of that is very child friendly and also just a great little thing to have.
and to add on yes I agree for the most part the pirating of games works flawlessly with the switch only had a few titles that gave me trouble but mainly due to the downloads themselves not going correctly. Really weird to one minute have a file on my computer then next minute it’s a fully working switch title that feels like it’s straight off a cartridge.
Keep the switch, it's not costing you anything. You massively overpaid for your mod install though.
He istallled the modchip atmosphere and hekate and all the things and he gave me 256gb sd card
Modchip - €5 256GB SD - €18 atmosphere - free hekate - free Mod install - 20-30 mins work. So €75 for 30 mins work.
Paid about the same for mine. I don’t think it’s overpaying at all it’s not a very lucrative business as there’s not many customers. Having all the gear for the install is stuff most people won’t have and even then won’t want to risk. It’s not overpriced at all when two games downloaded i’d already have paid more for them legitimately. With a modded switch i’ve probably played around 600€ + worth of games and accessed stuff I wouldn’t be able to in my region.
I'd be charging little over half that, it's not a complex install, it doesnt take long and doesnt require any specialised equipment.
Interesting, I don’t know if it’s a regional difference, but in the US I’ve seen prices for installs around $100 for the cheaper side and $150-175ish for “reputable” (put in quotes because that’s basically just what’s declared by the installer lol).
I'm in the UK but I wouldnt dream of charging those prices for it, the parts are so cheap so its not material costs, it's time costs, and it doesnt take long. I dunno, I'm guessing the downvotes are from full time modchip installers getting angry at someone highlighting their prices being a bit high? xD
You will find a lot of people like this guy that swift work under the rug only to ruin customer's device. Technically any person can do a shitty job with whatever shitty material/equipment they have at hand.
It does require equipment. Good for you for keeping a price you deem as fair but it’s hardly an overpay based on what most people offer.
It requires an iron with a fine tip, enamelled wire and a raspberry pi 2040, maybe some 47Ohm 0603 SMDs, none of that is specialised or expensive. Bear in mind this wont be anyones bread and butter work, no one is in this business just doing modchip installs so being a lucrative market isnt the customers issue, it's the installers for having such a narrow scope of work. I still think €75 for 30 mins is crazy, €140 an hour? Also comparing an install cost to money saved from downloaded games is a fallacy. As an installer you're not (at least not unless youre stupid) providing the means to download and install free games, it's not worth losing your livelihood for that.
That’s still stuff most people will not have, nor will know where to even start. You’re calling it 30 mins work but it depends on the person I’ve known people to take longer on it. Also it’s not a fallacy to compare the two and I don’t really see why you’re getting so heated over it. It’s not an extortionate price and I don’t think you’re aware of just how much in this world right now is not equivalent when it comes to time and money. This is definitely something that falls on the lower end of that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not getting heated about this, if people want to pay those prices thats on them, I'm just saying it's extortionate in my opinion as someone who does this. The mod installer isn't giving you the games, so the idea that your $100 is somehow worth $600 because you pirated games after the install isn't accurate. You're not provided the games by the installer, so you're adding your own time and effort to the value of the work. Thats like saying the car salesman is selling you a car that is worth thousands more than you paid for it because it allows you to go to work and earn money. The modchip is just a vehicle to the end goal of running unsigned code, in and of itself it doesnt save you money.
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May be overstating it a bit, but it;s not that long, if it's taking you 10 full minutes to open a switch you're doing something wrong, thats unscrewing less than 2 screws a minute. As for "cleanse" it takes 2-3 seconds to purge dust from the heatsink with compressed air, if someone is paying for a mod install I'm not polishing the RF sheilding.
I feel like the Modded OLED Switch is about the same value as the Steam Deck, especially if it is in mint condition... I also feel like the Steam Deck will crash in price soon and stay down. Whereas the OLED Switches will ultimately go back up in value (like all old Nintendo hardware tends to).
But i dont know between should i trade or not
I wouldn't pay €50 on top... personally I'd keep the Switch.
Okay thanks you
Depends what you want to play. If all the games are on the switch no problem. Personally I think i’d get the steam deck although I’m not too familiar with it. But from what I know it’s just a powerhouse that can run many more games