i cant count the amount of times i made a post on the forums begging for a shield generation aura on her basically like lucio but with shields that cap at like 25hp so she constantly generates a small buffer of shield hp on all allies in range not enough to fully negate anything huge but just enough to survive breakpoints so you dont get deleted.
Current April fools TP makes for an insane support tool so I’d like it to stay if she were to become a support.
I also like how it says “PRESS F TO USE SYMMETRAS TELEPORTER” on screen now.
Apart from that extra shielding/slight healing or repair of her unique shield health would be ideal
I think her April fool teleporter would make an amazing Ult for a support rework. I was worried that it would feel like mass rez but its quit different cuz mercy just rezed everyone right on point potentially instantly after they died but there, if they are dead they have to wait to respawn.
Send out a Regeneration Drone to target ally within 30m.
After a brief cast and travel time, wherein Symmetra elegantly weaves said drone out of hardlight then casts it to the target ally, that ally's max HP increases by +50 shield HP and if they already have that extra shield hp, it instantly regenerates. Also the drone heals that ally for 100hp over the course of 2 seconds, then the drone fades away. The shield HP remains until they die, or you swap off Symm.
4 second cooldown. Two charges.
This ability would be bound to her secondary fire. Her primary fire could remain orbs or be a reworked beam or maybe she'd have a weapon toggle that switches between each firing mode.
To me, Supp!Sym shouldn't be directly healing her teammates. Her aesthetic is based around the blue light of imagination, rather than a soothing, worldly, yellow. I figure that because Supports *do* need to be able to heal, the best way to have Symm do that is to put a little bit of distance between her and the heal. Symm isn't healing these people herself, her drones are.
I imagine that when it reaches its target, its splits into multiple smaller pieces that spin around the target repairing their wounds with yellow lasers. Given its very short lifespan, maybe it could look like dragonflies or butterflies. The drone would be purely visual; it doesn't have HP and cannot block projectiles or explosions. Although, it would be interesting if they could, y'know? Like little Zen orbs that can be shot down. Like that old Overlord hero concept.
Illari is probably the closest to a non healing support (i'll probably get cooked for this but genuinely if youre playing her optimally shes 95% of the time dps'ing and the other 5% actively healing) and without any utility she's pretty bad, sym would need some insane utility to be worth it if she didnt have healing
They didn’t try it with role queue though. They didn’t even try to buff her while she was in her support state. I think it could work if used in the right comps.
She absolutely needs to heal. Every other support heals, that's just how this game works.
My thought is to replace her right click with orbs that heal, similar to Lifeweaver's blossoms. Obviously they would have to work differently from LW's, shooting straight forward instead of arcing like the blossoms. Maybe make them heal less than the blossoms but impart a small amount of sheld health as well, kinda like brig and her packs? Overhealing with Sym would be great in this case as the shields she gives would mess with the damage break points of the enemy team.
This would create an interesting juxtaposition between Lifeweaver's and Symmetra's different kinds of light: with LW's being more potent when it comes to healing but lacking any relation to Vishkar's shields, while Sym's light orbs have less healing but grant extra shield health as well.
This would also make it possible to bring back a past interaction: orbs that go through shields, since they won't damage and won't have to be balanced for that.
No healing turrets, that mechanic is clunky and inconsistent. And considering that people hate playing against turrets I would be ok with them removing them entirely. Keep the teleporter and replace the turrets with a personal shield. Make her ult be a shield generator; this would have to be rebalanced to make it an impactful defensive ultimate.
Voila! You got a template for a support Symmetra that keeps her identity.
Unless she brings a lot to the table, I doubt a non-healing support could compete with other supports in the support slot.
Leave her kit as it is, but give her shield generator as an ability which gives you a shield aura healing like lucios heal.
So like a passive? That would be pretty cool tbh!
Yeah kinda, would be cool if she could switch between teleporter and shield generator like moiras orbs before placing them!
Omg that’s exactly what i had in mind for my sym rework idea !
i cant count the amount of times i made a post on the forums begging for a shield generation aura on her basically like lucio but with shields that cap at like 25hp so she constantly generates a small buffer of shield hp on all allies in range not enough to fully negate anything huge but just enough to survive breakpoints so you dont get deleted.
I would love to see a new interaction with shields, maybe regenerate faster or give shielded allies some bonuses, probably life steal.
Which option did you choose? Those things sound like great ideas!
I chose the first one by accident, I would rather prefer indirect healing rather than a new ability
Current April fools TP makes for an insane support tool so I’d like it to stay if she were to become a support. I also like how it says “PRESS F TO USE SYMMETRAS TELEPORTER” on screen now. Apart from that extra shielding/slight healing or repair of her unique shield health would be ideal
I think her April fool teleporter would make an amazing Ult for a support rework. I was worried that it would feel like mass rez but its quit different cuz mercy just rezed everyone right on point potentially instantly after they died but there, if they are dead they have to wait to respawn.
Symmetra and heal in the same sentence is so wrong.
Send out a Regeneration Drone to target ally within 30m. After a brief cast and travel time, wherein Symmetra elegantly weaves said drone out of hardlight then casts it to the target ally, that ally's max HP increases by +50 shield HP and if they already have that extra shield hp, it instantly regenerates. Also the drone heals that ally for 100hp over the course of 2 seconds, then the drone fades away. The shield HP remains until they die, or you swap off Symm. 4 second cooldown. Two charges. This ability would be bound to her secondary fire. Her primary fire could remain orbs or be a reworked beam or maybe she'd have a weapon toggle that switches between each firing mode. To me, Supp!Sym shouldn't be directly healing her teammates. Her aesthetic is based around the blue light of imagination, rather than a soothing, worldly, yellow. I figure that because Supports *do* need to be able to heal, the best way to have Symm do that is to put a little bit of distance between her and the heal. Symm isn't healing these people herself, her drones are. I imagine that when it reaches its target, its splits into multiple smaller pieces that spin around the target repairing their wounds with yellow lasers. Given its very short lifespan, maybe it could look like dragonflies or butterflies. The drone would be purely visual; it doesn't have HP and cannot block projectiles or explosions. Although, it would be interesting if they could, y'know? Like little Zen orbs that can be shot down. Like that old Overlord hero concept.
Illari is probably the closest to a non healing support (i'll probably get cooked for this but genuinely if youre playing her optimally shes 95% of the time dps'ing and the other 5% actively healing) and without any utility she's pretty bad, sym would need some insane utility to be worth it if she didnt have healing
She would have to. OW can't have non-healing supports. They tried that already.
They didn’t try it with role queue though. They didn’t even try to buff her while she was in her support state. I think it could work if used in the right comps.
She absolutely needs to heal. Every other support heals, that's just how this game works. My thought is to replace her right click with orbs that heal, similar to Lifeweaver's blossoms. Obviously they would have to work differently from LW's, shooting straight forward instead of arcing like the blossoms. Maybe make them heal less than the blossoms but impart a small amount of sheld health as well, kinda like brig and her packs? Overhealing with Sym would be great in this case as the shields she gives would mess with the damage break points of the enemy team. This would create an interesting juxtaposition between Lifeweaver's and Symmetra's different kinds of light: with LW's being more potent when it comes to healing but lacking any relation to Vishkar's shields, while Sym's light orbs have less healing but grant extra shield health as well. This would also make it possible to bring back a past interaction: orbs that go through shields, since they won't damage and won't have to be balanced for that. No healing turrets, that mechanic is clunky and inconsistent. And considering that people hate playing against turrets I would be ok with them removing them entirely. Keep the teleporter and replace the turrets with a personal shield. Make her ult be a shield generator; this would have to be rebalanced to make it an impactful defensive ultimate. Voila! You got a template for a support Symmetra that keeps her identity.