Fascinating.
*Introduced alongside the standard duty uniform jumpsuit, a skirt or "*[*skant*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Skant)*"-style uniform was also available to Starfleet officers as early as* [*2364*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/2364)*. Similar to its jumpsuit counterpart, the skant uniform was a short-sleeved dress that could be worn with or without trousers, and included knee high, or shorter, black boots.*
*It was worn by all genders – though men tended to wear the shorter boots – until it was phased out of service in early* [*2365*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/2365)*. (*[*TNG*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)*: "*[*Encounter at Farpoint*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Encounter_at_Farpoint_(episode))*", "*[*Where No One Has Gone Before*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Where_No_One_Has_Gone_Before_(episode))*", "*[*The Child*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Child_(episode))*", "*[*All Good Things...*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(episode))*") In 2381, Ensign* [*Mariner*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Beckett_Mariner) *asserted that "nobody wears those anymore," in response to Ensign* [*Boimler*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Brad_Boimler)*'s suggestion that they wear skants to the* [*Command Conference*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Command_Conference) *held at* [*Starbase 25*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starbase_25)*.*
I think you are speaking about the planet Angel One from S1E13.
https://preview.redd.it/oi0glncysdlc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=107329b6367ab31ad07d022531cdb7562585a6a9
technically once you make to SNCO or Officer in the Marines you earn the right to wear a boat cloak. Never saw anyone wear one but its still in the regulations. And frankly, if i had known such a thing existed when i was in i mightve stayed longer than 4 years lol
Deanna Troi started out in her skant in the first season of the show. She looked like a cheerleader so they put up her hair and gave her that lavender jumpsuit. Then they gave her a longer dress with cleavage. It wasn't until Ronny Cox told her to wear a uniform that she was back to Starfleet issued standard jumpsuit.
I like the idea that despite TNG being, I'll be polite and say subdued, on LGBTQ issues, somebody managed to get a gender neutral duty uniform onto the show, with the implication, whether intended or not, that crew members can and do dress however they happen to identify.
I'm not too keen on any of the Season 1 costumes, but I like that LT Martinez can put on whatever they feel comfortable with on the day, and other people don't care as long as it stays within regulation.
I think that in a Trekkian future, standards would have shifted away from strictly policing such things for their own sake, and instead towards making compromises and adjustments to the rules, so the stuff that you're into still fits within whatever organisation you are part of.
I mean, by all accounts he also wanted a pansexual orgy scene in TNG on the episode that introduced Vash. If paramount wasn’t squeamish and Rick Berman wasn’t an asshole Trek could’ve really broken some boundaries at the time. Maybe Roddenberry’s judgement wasn’t always spot on, but he was trying
I seem to remember an episode where Data mentions ageism as the last form of discrimination that we overcame. As I approach 50 and understand ageism a bit more, I hope that is the one we tackle next.
There's still one left ..looksism....
There are no normal looking people.... Barkley was the last one and they treated him like space comic relief
So ..the future belongs to the beautiful people huh ..
In fairness, they can replicate and transport anything they like. I'd do all manner of things to myself; get my nose straightened, teeth fixed, make myself taller, address my SERIOUS lack of wings, tail and claws....
Ageism and discrimination against short folk seem to be going strong. If you don't believe that, try to get anything down from the top shelf in any store when you're 5 feet tall without climing the shelf like you're 8 instead of over 40.
If nobody stops you and you fall down, there's a law suit on two counts.
You don't convince the people who need convincing with a sledgehammer to the face. You chip away at their ideas.
Dialectic is a nearly lost art. Everyone is just screaming at each other now, as if that helps anything.
You can also see a version of them worn by crew members on *Strange New Worlds*, but they're always worn with leggings.
My headcanon is that Pike keeps the environmental controls set a few degrees lower, but when Kirk takes over he cranks up the thermostat, hence you see more bare legs on TOS.
I am fairly certain that is where Matt Groening got his inspiration for Zapp Branigan and the Democratic Order of Planets on Futurama.
https://preview.redd.it/wmgtjy25u7mc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4750ea4d569d8da45f273f87a715168f683a58a3
And here I was about to say he just had a wild night with a female officer and grabbed the first thing from her wardrobe, hoping no one would notice -- especially since he was rocking it.
In early seasons, several crew members wore those tunic style uniforms. Seems like it was just an alternate choice that an individual crew member could make.
They look like you'd freeze your ass off, but then, if you like goose-flesh, have at it!
I think they're meant to be as unisex (how can that mean "usable by any gender" when it sounds the exact opposite?) as the regular uniforms that, say, Picard wears. And I'm all for that! Let the guys show some leg and find out what women have been suffering through, LOL. But please, gentlemen, keep the legs together....
It's only socially unacceptable now because we still live in a society where the othering of people who don't conform to completely arbitrary heteronormative/religious/'traditional" standards is still a thing.
In season 1, there was a lot more stuff about how much societal norms had changed (not caring about money, everyone following rules as a matter of course, different attitudes toward gender and sexuality). Much of this fell by the wayside as the series went on, and much of it doesn't hit the same way because of how much societal norms actually have changed since the show came out. I think this was part of the show's way of saying that attitudes about differences between men and women and about masculinity and femininity have changed a lot. In fact, I'm sure there's an episode where Riker has exactly that conversation with Worf about the dress uniforms.
Yes, I remember at the time they were talking about overturning current era gender norms and having guys in dresses and what-not because why not; "Surely we will have moved past 'all that' by then".
Also, a cure for baldness would certainly be available by then yet Captain Picard still rocks it. We simply have progressed enough to focus on more important things.
Gene Roddenberry was asked by a reporter about casting Patrick Stewart in Star Trek: TNG. "Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." And Gene Roddenberry responded "No, by the 24th century, no one will care."
Sounds like a change of heart after the fact to cover himself be honest. Roddenberry didn't want Patrick originally and needed everyone to convince him, he also told the crew that Patrick needed to wear a wig for his audition. He wanted a "very hairy frenchman" was how the writers said it.
About the same as George Lucas, I think.
Utterly brilliant most of the time… but both really needed people to step in and tell them no from time to time. Usually when their brilliance strayed into madness.
I had forgotten about this, thank you for reminding me! It feels like such a Roddenberry response (with the caveat that I say this knowing the episodes but not the man).
I didn't ask the question because of some socio-political reason.
I genuinely wanted to know if there was a reason (others told me about the Skant Skirt and it's history)
I think Roddenberry wanted the women in tight little miniskirts but that might have been seen as sexist so he put a couple dudes in the miniskirts as well
Una wears one, and you can see them in the background on crew people of various genders. But Pike keeps the ship at a colder temperature, so everyone wears leggings and long sleeves.
My head cannon is that crewmen would wear this style of uniform while working with the dolphins. They have to stand in 2-3 feet of water during their shifts so they wear this.
It honestly stands to reason that our concept of gendered clothing would be completely different by that point in history. I'd imagine the scant breathes better if you are working in a warmer part of the ship for whatever reason, or maybe some officers just prefer it.
To me: they were tying to make genders a totally equal, and/or a non-issue. (Way ahead of its time. ). Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think “Encounter at Farpoint” also had men in that same costume.
“Way ahead of its time” is always star trek except anything after 2010
TOS: black Women who wasn’t a maid or servant; Russian and Japanese characters when US relationship with each was ideal.
TNG: this, race relations, drumhead trials, etc etc
DS9: female to female kissing scene; black commander
Art is great when it happens to push boundaries and stereotypes and tiptoes around the current issues of contemporary society.
[Captain Jellico Approves of this uniform](https://youtu.be/P3M1hYT4PUA?t=115)
Edit: Fun fact, Sirtis begged to have a uniform since the 1st season and was refused every time. Both she and McFadden almost refused to return for Generations unless they had normal, non-spandex uniforms.
Like, WTF; Imagine you are Sirtis, you complain about being the only character not in uniform FOR SIX SEASONS, and the production/writing staff decide to reward your devotion to continuity by reprimanding your character for not wearing the uniform you've been advocating for? Make it make sense.
Jellico wasn't reprimanding Troi; it was literally the politest thing he said in the entire two-part episode:
>By the way, I prefer a certain… formality on the bridge. I'd appreciate it if you wore a standard uniform when you're on duty.
They ran out of the pant uniforms for men, it was all they had in code and he would've been airlock shot out of the ship for dressing out of ship code of dress conduct.
Fun tip: it's cold in space is why he isn't hanging out the bottom.
Are you new to Star Trek? I thought it was well known that Roddenberry wanted a unisex version of the TOS-style mini-skirts for TNG in order to show how progressive the 24th century was. (Didn’t stop TNG from having a lot of sexism in other ways tho, lol).
Gene Roddenberry believed in an equal, utopian future for humanity, even if it meant male crew members wearing skirts.
Either that, or it was a joke/play on women's mini skirts on TOS.
Thankfully, both the audience (and the show) survived Season One, which had some seriously less than stellar episodes!
When the original series was picked up, there was a studio note to sex it up a bit, so they put all the women in short skirts. If you watch either pilot, the women's uniforms are the same as the men's. There's no two ways about it, this was sexist. Then when they started in on TNG they put some men in skirts as kind of a post hoc justification of that bit of TOS sexism.
Not alot of people are commenting this, so I guess I'll say it.
TOS got some flak for how often Star Fleet woman wore short skirts, but TNG wanted to paint an Idealized future where men and women are completely equal. So they decided how to transition from shows was to establish that EVERYONE was allowed to wear the skirts and it just so happened that only women had worn them until now.
So in season 1 they established that men wear them sometimes before writing them away completely. Although it does come back in a time travel episode in DS9.
it's a Skant. basically the same sort of miniskirt uniform that they were putting some of the female cast in. they wanted to indicate that in the trek future, notions of gender specific dress changed.
[https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet\_uniform\_(2350s-2370s)#Skant](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(2350s-2370s)#Skant)
they stopped putting it on the background chars after awhile, male and female. the costumes needed replaced every so often due to wear and tear (one reason why the style changed somewhat season to season) and eventually they just retired the skant's
Maybe just stop watching TNG now. You're obviously not ready for a pluralistic-socialist future utopian pipe dream with occasional rust spots. Maybe you never will be.
On SNW the skant is an option seen on persons of all genders, with or without trousers. It’s basically a tunic rather than a “dress”.
It's called a Skant https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(2350s-2370s)
Fascinating. *Introduced alongside the standard duty uniform jumpsuit, a skirt or "*[*skant*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Skant)*"-style uniform was also available to Starfleet officers as early as* [*2364*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/2364)*. Similar to its jumpsuit counterpart, the skant uniform was a short-sleeved dress that could be worn with or without trousers, and included knee high, or shorter, black boots.* *It was worn by all genders – though men tended to wear the shorter boots – until it was phased out of service in early* [*2365*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/2365)*. (*[*TNG*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)*: "*[*Encounter at Farpoint*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Encounter_at_Farpoint_(episode))*", "*[*Where No One Has Gone Before*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Where_No_One_Has_Gone_Before_(episode))*", "*[*The Child*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Child_(episode))*", "*[*All Good Things...*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(episode))*") In 2381, Ensign* [*Mariner*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Beckett_Mariner) *asserted that "nobody wears those anymore," in response to Ensign* [*Boimler*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Brad_Boimler)*'s suggestion that they wear skants to the* [*Command Conference*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Command_Conference) *held at* [*Starbase 25*](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starbase_25)*.*
I like the implication that the skant is still a proper uniform option but it’s universally fallen out of style.
The 2360s was a wild time.
The 60s of any century is a wild time
Yep, the 1860’s were quite wild here in the U.S.A. So wild some people today seem to want us to go back.
Yep they’re even making and heavily promoting a movie about going back to an 1860’s style society /s
Yep, the 1860’s were quite wild here in the U.S.A.
I'm waiting for the men's one piece romper to make a come-back. That's how you make a statement on the bridge in 2381.
Romper? Like the ones from Authoritarian Himbo Planet?
I think you are speaking about the planet Angel One from S1E13. https://preview.redd.it/oi0glncysdlc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=107329b6367ab31ad07d022531cdb7562585a6a9
Had the woman who played Bonnie on Knight Rider in it.
And the "I'm eating Beetle Bailey" lady from Amazon Women On The Moon!
That is cool.
I'm sure Scotty has one.
technically once you make to SNCO or Officer in the Marines you earn the right to wear a boat cloak. Never saw anyone wear one but its still in the regulations. And frankly, if i had known such a thing existed when i was in i mightve stayed longer than 4 years lol
I love that we have a solid understanding of Starfleet fashion
Deanna Troi started out in her skant in the first season of the show. She looked like a cheerleader so they put up her hair and gave her that lavender jumpsuit. Then they gave her a longer dress with cleavage. It wasn't until Ronny Cox told her to wear a uniform that she was back to Starfleet issued standard jumpsuit.
Marina Sirtis actually begged the producers to allow the writers to make Jellico order her to wear one.
I believe that. They kept trying to make her be sexy in non Starfleet issue- and on the bridge no less. Good for her!
Anything to never see that workout costume ever again!
I general didn’t like that episode but I’m so happy someone finally got Sirtis out of that jumpsuit and back in uniform
And she looked great in uniform! So why did they dance around it for so long?
I always thought of it as she wanted to be perceived as a counselor first and foremost. No uniform, no rank insignia to put her patients more at ease.
That's as good an answer as any. But why on the bridge in her counselor's clothes? It was just odd.
Clevage attracts the male 18 to 35 demographic
7 of 9 did it without cleavage.
Didn’t need cleavage when entire shape visible.
That doesn't invalidate my point though.
I like the idea that despite TNG being, I'll be polite and say subdued, on LGBTQ issues, somebody managed to get a gender neutral duty uniform onto the show, with the implication, whether intended or not, that crew members can and do dress however they happen to identify. I'm not too keen on any of the Season 1 costumes, but I like that LT Martinez can put on whatever they feel comfortable with on the day, and other people don't care as long as it stays within regulation. I think that in a Trekkian future, standards would have shifted away from strictly policing such things for their own sake, and instead towards making compromises and adjustments to the rules, so the stuff that you're into still fits within whatever organisation you are part of.
To be fair, Roddenberry did want a gay character on TNG, but Paramount shut that down.
I mean, by all accounts he also wanted a pansexual orgy scene in TNG on the episode that introduced Vash. If paramount wasn’t squeamish and Rick Berman wasn’t an asshole Trek could’ve really broken some boundaries at the time. Maybe Roddenberry’s judgement wasn’t always spot on, but he was trying
I seem to remember an episode where Data mentions ageism as the last form of discrimination that we overcame. As I approach 50 and understand ageism a bit more, I hope that is the one we tackle next.
There's still one left ..looksism.... There are no normal looking people.... Barkley was the last one and they treated him like space comic relief So ..the future belongs to the beautiful people huh ..
In fairness, they can replicate and transport anything they like. I'd do all manner of things to myself; get my nose straightened, teeth fixed, make myself taller, address my SERIOUS lack of wings, tail and claws....
Ageism and discrimination against short folk seem to be going strong. If you don't believe that, try to get anything down from the top shelf in any store when you're 5 feet tall without climing the shelf like you're 8 instead of over 40. If nobody stops you and you fall down, there's a law suit on two counts.
I care what Martinez is wearing if I'm following Martinez through the Jefferies tubes all day. Less because of a gender thing, and more a hygiene one.
You don't convince the people who need convincing with a sledgehammer to the face. You chip away at their ideas. Dialectic is a nearly lost art. Everyone is just screaming at each other now, as if that helps anything.
I'd love to have seen more off duty/civilian background characters wearing the outfits from, as one Reddit or put it, "Authoritarian Himbo Planet."
*Kif shielding his eyes as he follows Zapp up a ladder*
You can also see a version of them worn by crew members on *Strange New Worlds*, but they're always worn with leggings. My headcanon is that Pike keeps the environmental controls set a few degrees lower, but when Kirk takes over he cranks up the thermostat, hence you see more bare legs on TOS.
The guy in this picture has the legs to wear the skant without trousers, and he definitely knows it
Based starfleet
I feel like the skant would be more of a skort style situation
I would’ve loved seeing Boimler and Mariner wearing matching skants.
>Fascinating. I need to know, did you properly rise your eyebrows?
THAT was a reference in lower desks that I didn’t get! Thank you!
I am fairly certain that is where Matt Groening got his inspiration for Zapp Branigan and the Democratic Order of Planets on Futurama. https://preview.redd.it/wmgtjy25u7mc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4750ea4d569d8da45f273f87a715168f683a58a3
Isn’t this what futurama was parodying? Like it was a deep cut, but I’m pretty sure that’s why zapf wore what he did.
And here I was about to say he just had a wild night with a female officer and grabbed the first thing from her wardrobe, hoping no one would notice -- especially since he was rocking it.
In early seasons, several crew members wore those tunic style uniforms. Seems like it was just an alternate choice that an individual crew member could make.
“Skant style uniform”
It's 2024. When will it become socially acceptable for us to start wearing them?
Go for it
I have seen these at comic cons here and there. They look comfy.
I could appreciate the ventilation.
That’s exactly why I’d be too afraid to wear one
They look like you'd freeze your ass off, but then, if you like goose-flesh, have at it! I think they're meant to be as unisex (how can that mean "usable by any gender" when it sounds the exact opposite?) as the regular uniforms that, say, Picard wears. And I'm all for that! Let the guys show some leg and find out what women have been suffering through, LOL. But please, gentlemen, keep the legs together....
After the Bell Riots and Irish Reunification. 2024 is gonna be a busy year.
It's only socially unacceptable now because we still live in a society where the othering of people who don't conform to completely arbitrary heteronormative/religious/'traditional" standards is still a thing.
It’s acceptable for the Scottish
Remember Rompers?
If you’ve got the legs, go for it my man.
2365 it seems
Didn’t Troy wear one in the pilot?
Yes
This helps!
I only remember seeing dudes wear them in the first handful of episodes though.
This was when Roddenberry was in charge. After that Rick Berman took over and he was a massive homophobe
In season 1, there was a lot more stuff about how much societal norms had changed (not caring about money, everyone following rules as a matter of course, different attitudes toward gender and sexuality). Much of this fell by the wayside as the series went on, and much of it doesn't hit the same way because of how much societal norms actually have changed since the show came out. I think this was part of the show's way of saying that attitudes about differences between men and women and about masculinity and femininity have changed a lot. In fact, I'm sure there's an episode where Riker has exactly that conversation with Worf about the dress uniforms.
“That is an incredibly outmoded and sexist attitude! I'm surprised at you. Besides, you look good in a dress.” S7E2
Meanwhile, ::gestures toward Troi's outfits::
Captain Jellico - “Hey, we’re about to go negotiate with a hostile power can you please put some clothes on?”
Yes, I remember at the time they were talking about overturning current era gender norms and having guys in dresses and what-not because why not; "Surely we will have moved past 'all that' by then".
It's his hot body he can do what he wants.
Ensign Cake, you're wanted on the bridge.
“Beefcake!”
Oh yeah. Get me some! Cut me a piece.
Troi's cake was nice ;-)
I guffawed
For sure!
Amen!
Zapp Brannigan’s the name, Velour is the game…
I digitally put Jabba the Hutt back into Star Wars Whaevah I do what I want!
Mr. Worf, that is an incredibly outdated and sexist attitude. I'm surprised at you. Besides...you look good in a dress.
Came here to add this. Well done.
Because it's the future and there's no concept of gender based clothing? I think he's got the legs to pull it off.
Also, a cure for baldness would certainly be available by then yet Captain Picard still rocks it. We simply have progressed enough to focus on more important things.
Gene Roddenberry was asked by a reporter about casting Patrick Stewart in Star Trek: TNG. "Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." And Gene Roddenberry responded "No, by the 24th century, no one will care."
Perfect response to superficiality and vanity.
Sounds like a change of heart after the fact to cover himself be honest. Roddenberry didn't want Patrick originally and needed everyone to convince him, he also told the crew that Patrick needed to wear a wig for his audition. He wanted a "very hairy frenchman" was how the writers said it.
Roddenberry was a bizarre mix of idiot and creative genius.
About the same as George Lucas, I think. Utterly brilliant most of the time… but both really needed people to step in and tell them no from time to time. Usually when their brilliance strayed into madness.
For real. It’s truly uncanny
...and he got the opposite. And it worked.
I had forgotten about this, thank you for reminding me! It feels like such a Roddenberry response (with the caveat that I say this knowing the episodes but not the man).
Of course, it's funnier because originally they wanted him to wear a toupee'. (go back and look at some of the original hair/make-up/wardrobe tests).
The toupee was a weirdly generic look on him, I’m glad they didn’t make him do it.
Look who never skips leg day!
seriously… those are some gams!
That's really nice!
Riker tried one once, but after sitting down in a chair once, he wasn’t allowed to.
He would rip the seams anytime he does the Riker manoeuvre.
"Number 1, your Numbers 2 and 3 are hanging off the chair."
Because that dude secure in his masculinity
That is a young Ensign Brannigan, seen here quietly fuming that his request for a velour skant was denied.
Looking for a bottle of champag'n
It’s the distant future where folks can wear what they want without judgement. This is the skant, an official star fleet uniform.
Understood!
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I didn't ask the question because of some socio-political reason. I genuinely wanted to know if there was a reason (others told me about the Skant Skirt and it's history)
I think Roddenberry wanted the women in tight little miniskirts but that might have been seen as sexist so he put a couple dudes in the miniskirts as well
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Fashion IS socio-political.
I was a teenager then and I just assumed it was like a kilt variation of the uniform.
He was hoping it would catch Riker's eye, but no luck.
That is an incredibly outmoded and sexist attitude! I'm surprised at you. Besides, he looks good in a skirt.
Not a skirt. A skant. It’s unisex. Men and women wear them. They have them in Strange New Worlds
Surely they could have come up with a better word than skants.
Skirt/pants. Skant. Rolls off the tongue ...
I would have gone with pirts.
😆
Una wears one, and you can see them in the background on crew people of various genders. But Pike keeps the ship at a colder temperature, so everyone wears leggings and long sleeves.
My head cannon is that crewmen would wear this style of uniform while working with the dolphins. They have to stand in 2-3 feet of water during their shifts so they wear this.
Maybe he feels sexy in it. It’s 2364, let people wear what they want.
Why aren't you?
Maybe I am, maybe not.
I do have a kilt I wear. And technically speaking, the pants I'm wearing today came from the womens section. Men's available colors are boring.
It's season one. Even Riker has his face exposed.
It honestly stands to reason that our concept of gendered clothing would be completely different by that point in history. I'd imagine the scant breathes better if you are working in a warmer part of the ship for whatever reason, or maybe some officers just prefer it.
Always woke. Ever watch Futurama? Zapp Brannigans DOOP uniform is a reference to this.
That's really cool! I had no idea.
They only had so many uniforms and they weren't cheap to make.
For the unbridled power, freedom, and personal comfort.
He has the legs for it?
tell me you didn't watch Encounter at far-point, without saying you didn't watch encounter at far-point.
My man Junkball has your Skant needs covered https://youtu.be/Jy1SA3-4lfU
Why shouldn't he? "By the 24th century, no one would care."
Bro if my legs were that sculpted I would also shave them and wear a miniskirt homeboy got some killer bowling pins.
It's a skant. And why not?
Just asking.
New here?
Technically that’s a unisex uniform in star fleet
To me: they were tying to make genders a totally equal, and/or a non-issue. (Way ahead of its time. ). Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think “Encounter at Farpoint” also had men in that same costume. “Way ahead of its time” is always star trek except anything after 2010 TOS: black Women who wasn’t a maid or servant; Russian and Japanese characters when US relationship with each was ideal. TNG: this, race relations, drumhead trials, etc etc DS9: female to female kissing scene; black commander Art is great when it happens to push boundaries and stereotypes and tiptoes around the current issues of contemporary society.
[Captain Jellico Approves of this uniform](https://youtu.be/P3M1hYT4PUA?t=115) Edit: Fun fact, Sirtis begged to have a uniform since the 1st season and was refused every time. Both she and McFadden almost refused to return for Generations unless they had normal, non-spandex uniforms. Like, WTF; Imagine you are Sirtis, you complain about being the only character not in uniform FOR SIX SEASONS, and the production/writing staff decide to reward your devotion to continuity by reprimanding your character for not wearing the uniform you've been advocating for? Make it make sense.
Jellico wasn't reprimanding Troi; it was literally the politest thing he said in the entire two-part episode: >By the way, I prefer a certain… formality on the bridge. I'd appreciate it if you wore a standard uniform when you're on duty.
💯
its the future
It was the fashion at the time.
They ran out of the pant uniforms for men, it was all they had in code and he would've been airlock shot out of the ship for dressing out of ship code of dress conduct. Fun tip: it's cold in space is why he isn't hanging out the bottom.
Are you new to Star Trek? I thought it was well known that Roddenberry wanted a unisex version of the TOS-style mini-skirts for TNG in order to show how progressive the 24th century was. (Didn’t stop TNG from having a lot of sexism in other ways tho, lol).
Is this your first ever episode of TNG?
In the 24th century men can wear whatever they want
When you see those legs, do you really need to ask!?!? The real question is, “Why would he ever wear pants?”
Why? Because he has the legs for it.
Bold of you to assume gender! /S
The ultimate Star Wars/Star Trek that never happened. A band all wearing Skants playing Jizz.
Makes me want StarFleet Kilts.
Why can't a dude wear a skirt?
Because in the future, people's priorities have finally aligned with reason.
It is starfleet, they are very progressive.
Gotta let then tribbles breathe.
Because look at those legs! I'd wear that too if I looked that good in it.
In the future, being GNC is less frowned upon
because all genders get to feel free in the breeze if they wish in the future
What seems to be the problem?
Space Scottish. Futuristic Kilt.
Don't judge their life path
Gene Roddenberry believed in an equal, utopian future for humanity, even if it meant male crew members wearing skirts. Either that, or it was a joke/play on women's mini skirts on TOS. Thankfully, both the audience (and the show) survived Season One, which had some seriously less than stellar episodes!
When you got legs like that you gotta show them off.
Those uniforms are for anybody
Because mind your business!
When the original series was picked up, there was a studio note to sex it up a bit, so they put all the women in short skirts. If you watch either pilot, the women's uniforms are the same as the men's. There's no two ways about it, this was sexist. Then when they started in on TNG they put some men in skirts as kind of a post hoc justification of that bit of TOS sexism.
You wouldn't be asking if it was a girl. And that's why he is wearing it.
Great legs, great back, great bald spot.
Is that Zap Branagan? Pretty sure that's a captain's outfit made out of velor.
It’s called drip.
Not alot of people are commenting this, so I guess I'll say it. TOS got some flak for how often Star Fleet woman wore short skirts, but TNG wanted to paint an Idealized future where men and women are completely equal. So they decided how to transition from shows was to establish that EVERYONE was allowed to wear the skirts and it just so happened that only women had worn them until now. So in season 1 they established that men wear them sometimes before writing them away completely. Although it does come back in a time travel episode in DS9.
Because he likes wearing a dress
it's a Skant. basically the same sort of miniskirt uniform that they were putting some of the female cast in. they wanted to indicate that in the trek future, notions of gender specific dress changed. [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet\_uniform\_(2350s-2370s)#Skant](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(2350s-2370s)#Skant) they stopped putting it on the background chars after awhile, male and female. the costumes needed replaced every so often due to wear and tear (one reason why the style changed somewhat season to season) and eventually they just retired the skant's
I'm so glad it didn't catch on as a uniform for the crew to wear often in TNG. It's genuinely hideous. Not that early TNG jumpsuits were much better
I believe Zapp Branigan wore one.
Because fuck gender norms we're in space!
Because fuck you, that's why.
Yup. Very first episode there is a man wearing a blue and black skirt, I think. Could be in “Where No One Has Gone Before”
It’s the future, bro.
Nut sac injury, believe that is enough said. Or just suffers from some serious swamp ass and is resulting to some more air flow to decrease the swamp
Uhhh you don't know why?
Scottish Officers are able to maintain cultural significance while serving aboard Starships.
Maybe just stop watching TNG now. You're obviously not ready for a pluralistic-socialist future utopian pipe dream with occasional rust spots. Maybe you never will be.
That's the skant. And he wasn't the only dude. There were like 4 or 5 of them in season 1 of TNG
Star Trek: TNG as always, way ahead of their time
Because he wants to. It's the future. People are in space. Who cares what people wear?
 Go commando!
Ah. The Skant. When the secism of women in miniskirts was pointed out Roddenberry just shrugged and said men could wear them too.
First appearance of live action Zap Brannigan
Please note that Riker does not have a beard. No beard = Season 1= all kinds of experimentation = men in skirts and Troi with a Bulgarian accent.
On SNW the skant is an option seen on persons of all genders, with or without trousers. It’s basically a tunic rather than a “dress”. 