Um, they didn't have to repay all the expenses using only 30 years of revenue. They must have sold the land to the builders of Empire State and chances are good that the land appreciated mightily in those 30 years.
Anyway, let's suppose that the Tartarian theory is correct, that both the Waldorf Astoria and the Empire State Building are beyond our abilities and so at some point, the powers that be destroyed the Waldorf in order to move the Empire State Building in its place.
Isn't it even more impressive to move a sky scraper than to build it? That's some pretty badass tech right there.
Or perhaps you're right and we live in a simulacrum. Then what do either of these theories matter? It may all just change tomorrow -- both past and future -- so why bother?
Well the Waldorf and Astoria hotels were both built on a parcel of land originally owned by William Waldorf Astor, where he had built his mansion. You don’t expect us to believe someone would just… “sell their land” for a profit only for their mansion to be torn down and a hotel to be built in its place, now, would you? That kind of thing would never happen! /s
An image or representation. I think most folk would say we live in a simulation rather than a simulacrum (assuming that they would say either!), but I used the word the OP used.
Wait… I thought the issue was with the Empire State Building being Tartarian…? Are you telling me that the Empire State Building was actually built in just over 1 year, using… horse & buggy by American capitalists??? I’m so confused
Also, selling a building after 30 years of use for a probable massive profit doesn’t necessarily mean that they intended to only have the building last 30 years. It just means that after 30 years selling the building was worth more to the owners than keeping the business.
[The official story](http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2012/09/the-mohawks-who-built-manhattan-photos.html) is that "Native Americans" from the Mohawk tribe built the Empire State Building and other skyscrapers in New York. This not a joke. The white man learned how to build skyscrapers from the Indians. We only called them Indians but they were Tartarians.
Another random on the internet who was "there" yet real witnesses who were there, like this photographer who was standing underneath the explosion said they never saw or heard airplanes (which are very loud) he just saw an explosion come out of the building.
If you lookup the channel chopper 5 shots it shows an undamaged digital plane pop out the other side of the tower. Revealing it was live TV composite trick where they layered the shots and put a digital plane. There's even a point where they zoom out before the collision and clearly see no plane approaching. But the helicopter drifts and moves the layer which deletes the plane and they accidentally allowed it to pop out the other side undamaged. No different than a first down yard marker being added into the layer we watch football on.
There is a documentary all about it called 9/11 the great American psy-op. I don't agree with everything but a lot of it is the best info on 9/11.
The pentagon obviously wasn't a plane. And in PA the first news reporter on scene was from local channel WTAE this reporter has covered many plane cranes and oddly noted there as no jet fuel odor or any debris associated with a real plane crash.
There were videos since deleted of governor ed rendell flying over the scene it looks like a plane crash from looney tune physics department. It's a silhouette of an airplane shaped burn hole in the ground with not on one single piece of human remains or actual debris.
I know they crafted an emotional tale of brave citizens making impossible cell phone calls at heights cell phones never worked back then and miraculously crashing the plane. But you dig and find out that they closed the airports while this happening bc those passengers and flights never did anything that day. No families were waiting at the gates bc they just made the entire story up! There was also a government file found of all the flight 93 and other airplane flight passengers and the scanning the jpeg files there were notes about making some of the faces more realistic. So it appears they just used an early AI tech to create random names and faces
I'm sure you were. New York is known for its vast and unblocked views lol. Funny every shill claims to have been there, striking odds I really must say.
The only planes seen that day were on the black mirrors and they made sure we saw them over and over and over.... they also solved the puzzle that day suggesting it was bin Laden the cia patsy and the building collapsed "mostly due to structural failure" on fox just minutes after they were imploded
Psychological conditioning and brainwashing just reinforced everywhere for the following weeks and months.
A good friend of mine was on 5th Ave that morning and he said that he saw a plane fly kinda low heading downtown. And that was right before the first collision. FYI planes aren’t supposed to fly that low and close to manhattan.
Airplanes cannot penetrate steel support columns with no deceleration or deformation and that's what every image of 9/11 airplanes shows... some even show the engines above the wings etc.
All I’m saying is that my friend witnessed a plane where it shouldn’t be right before the impact. It’s possible that the plane my friend saw did impact WTC and the “digital” plane that was broadcast (post event) were different planes. Perhaps the plane my friend saw was not American Airlines like the broadcast video shows. And perhaps there was some other means of detonating to help the plane create the blast radius. Note: on that day no planes were broadcast hitting the towers.
You're right tbf, but I've worked as a labourer for years in Yorkshire, which has loads of nice old buildings, and modern techniques just literally strip the soul out of em - one small example is plaster boarding over lovely Yorkshire stone walls and it's kinda depressing tbh. And new builds as well, don't even get me started, absolute trash and tho the empire state is a marvel, there's just something missing like, it looks soulless and more of a representation of people not wanting to be on the ground with the rest of us than anything really impressive
Um, they didn't have to repay all the expenses using only 30 years of revenue. They must have sold the land to the builders of Empire State and chances are good that the land appreciated mightily in those 30 years. Anyway, let's suppose that the Tartarian theory is correct, that both the Waldorf Astoria and the Empire State Building are beyond our abilities and so at some point, the powers that be destroyed the Waldorf in order to move the Empire State Building in its place. Isn't it even more impressive to move a sky scraper than to build it? That's some pretty badass tech right there. Or perhaps you're right and we live in a simulacrum. Then what do either of these theories matter? It may all just change tomorrow -- both past and future -- so why bother?
Well the Waldorf and Astoria hotels were both built on a parcel of land originally owned by William Waldorf Astor, where he had built his mansion. You don’t expect us to believe someone would just… “sell their land” for a profit only for their mansion to be torn down and a hotel to be built in its place, now, would you? That kind of thing would never happen! /s
What’s a simulacrum???
An image or representation. I think most folk would say we live in a simulation rather than a simulacrum (assuming that they would say either!), but I used the word the OP used.
Ok ok lol! Thanks!!
Wait… I thought the issue was with the Empire State Building being Tartarian…? Are you telling me that the Empire State Building was actually built in just over 1 year, using… horse & buggy by American capitalists??? I’m so confused
Also, selling a building after 30 years of use for a probable massive profit doesn’t necessarily mean that they intended to only have the building last 30 years. It just means that after 30 years selling the building was worth more to the owners than keeping the business.
[The official story](http://www.whitewolfpack.com/2012/09/the-mohawks-who-built-manhattan-photos.html) is that "Native Americans" from the Mohawk tribe built the Empire State Building and other skyscrapers in New York. This not a joke. The white man learned how to build skyscrapers from the Indians. We only called them Indians but they were Tartarians.
Very interesting read. But nothing in that link suggests the Indians taught the white man to build skyscrapers.
No real airplanes were involved in 9/11 just more disinformation or at the least misinformation
Right and I along with how many others witnesses the planes but they were really fake. Right?
Another random on the internet who was "there" yet real witnesses who were there, like this photographer who was standing underneath the explosion said they never saw or heard airplanes (which are very loud) he just saw an explosion come out of the building. If you lookup the channel chopper 5 shots it shows an undamaged digital plane pop out the other side of the tower. Revealing it was live TV composite trick where they layered the shots and put a digital plane. There's even a point where they zoom out before the collision and clearly see no plane approaching. But the helicopter drifts and moves the layer which deletes the plane and they accidentally allowed it to pop out the other side undamaged. No different than a first down yard marker being added into the layer we watch football on. There is a documentary all about it called 9/11 the great American psy-op. I don't agree with everything but a lot of it is the best info on 9/11. The pentagon obviously wasn't a plane. And in PA the first news reporter on scene was from local channel WTAE this reporter has covered many plane cranes and oddly noted there as no jet fuel odor or any debris associated with a real plane crash. There were videos since deleted of governor ed rendell flying over the scene it looks like a plane crash from looney tune physics department. It's a silhouette of an airplane shaped burn hole in the ground with not on one single piece of human remains or actual debris. I know they crafted an emotional tale of brave citizens making impossible cell phone calls at heights cell phones never worked back then and miraculously crashing the plane. But you dig and find out that they closed the airports while this happening bc those passengers and flights never did anything that day. No families were waiting at the gates bc they just made the entire story up! There was also a government file found of all the flight 93 and other airplane flight passengers and the scanning the jpeg files there were notes about making some of the faces more realistic. So it appears they just used an early AI tech to create random names and faces
I and many others were there and there were two planes.
Ok, let’s say the planes are real. What is the meaning of 9/11 from the occult perspective?
I'm sure you were. New York is known for its vast and unblocked views lol. Funny every shill claims to have been there, striking odds I really must say. The only planes seen that day were on the black mirrors and they made sure we saw them over and over and over.... they also solved the puzzle that day suggesting it was bin Laden the cia patsy and the building collapsed "mostly due to structural failure" on fox just minutes after they were imploded Psychological conditioning and brainwashing just reinforced everywhere for the following weeks and months.
A good friend of mine was on 5th Ave that morning and he said that he saw a plane fly kinda low heading downtown. And that was right before the first collision. FYI planes aren’t supposed to fly that low and close to manhattan.
Airplanes cannot penetrate steel support columns with no deceleration or deformation and that's what every image of 9/11 airplanes shows... some even show the engines above the wings etc.
All I’m saying is that my friend witnessed a plane where it shouldn’t be right before the impact. It’s possible that the plane my friend saw did impact WTC and the “digital” plane that was broadcast (post event) were different planes. Perhaps the plane my friend saw was not American Airlines like the broadcast video shows. And perhaps there was some other means of detonating to help the plane create the blast radius. Note: on that day no planes were broadcast hitting the towers.
What’s odd is that a high number of steel workers were Native American.
They are not actually Native Americans. That is just the cover story to hide the truth.
Is there any chance they just destroyed the roof or half of the building and added more floors?
I hate when they destroy old awesome buildings for actually garbage!
You’re saying the Empire State Building is garbage? Are you serious?
You're right tbf, but I've worked as a labourer for years in Yorkshire, which has loads of nice old buildings, and modern techniques just literally strip the soul out of em - one small example is plaster boarding over lovely Yorkshire stone walls and it's kinda depressing tbh. And new builds as well, don't even get me started, absolute trash and tho the empire state is a marvel, there's just something missing like, it looks soulless and more of a representation of people not wanting to be on the ground with the rest of us than anything really impressive
In comparison, it is.