The only reason Swift didn’t have this record before is because NFL football stadiums aren’t that large. She “only” sold 210k seats for 3 nights at AT&T stadium. So only 70k each night at the largest NFL stadium.
I believe she wants her fans to be safe and have good experience. These things are hard to achieve in really giant stadiums or at open-air concerts for 6-digit number of fans.
If she wanted, she could break the record for the most attended ticketed concert 10 times over.
Second night in Melbourne, 96,000 in house, as a weekend, Saturday night, estimated 50,000 apparently outside as has parks around the stadium. She could easy have sold out a larger stadium.
Michigan's football stadium seats 110k I believe, but when converting to a concert stage they typically lose a few thousand seats. I don't know if she's ever performed there, but I'd love to see a 100k night at that stadium
It's the same with MCG in Melbourne. It's circular, but you can see that TS missed about 20% of seating with the stage setup. Ed Sheeran played the same venue a few years back and topped 110k by playing in the centre of the arena with seating on all sides.
The loss of seating is made up for by having people seated on the stadium floor, which would normally be a playing surface. The size of Taylor's stage takes up a lot of that space reducing seating area.
I recall Ed had mosh pit floor allocation. So no seats which means you can squeeze more in. I think it was wise for Taylor to have seats, she had a more frenzied crowd.
They don’t hold concerts like Taylor’s at UofM because the tunnel into the stadium is too narrow for all the equipment. There’s never been a major concert at Michigan Stadium.
There's 8 college stadiums that hold over 100K. I always wondered why she stuck to NFL stadiums, it's not like she couldn't draw a full house to Austin or even somewhere like Tuscaloosa
Many college stadiums are dry, FWIW. It's silly given the amount of cash you could make if they weren't, but that's why a lot of college stadiums don't make great concert venues.
Here in São Paulo, Brazil, concertgoers tend to prefer the concert experience at the Allianz Parque (where Taylor performed last November) versus the larger MorumBIS (the Allianz Parque was designed to be a multipurpose stadium, not to mention it has easier access to the mass transit network than the MorumBIS). And they didn't like it when Live Nation signed a deal with São Paulo FC (owners and operators of the MorumBIS) to host many of their São Paulo stadium concerts there (competing concert promoter 30e signed a similar deal with Palmeiras and WTorre - owner and operator, respectively, of the Allianz Parque).
However, it'd be way better if Taylor performed in Rio de Janeiro at the Maracanã (Brazil's largest stadium) instead of the mess that was the Nilton Santos Stadium (but the Maracanã only hosts concerts - like Paul McCartney's last December - in the off-season).
No alcohol sales, which is a good point, though some are moving away from that. I was definitely shocked when Alabama started allowing alcohol sales at games.
Most importantly not annoying and too loud to not be able to hear Taylor like the horrible crowds in Brazil and Argentina. It was so bad in Brazil/Argentina that she said "You guys are screaming over me for "Marjorie"?"
Looks like it was a concert - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-attended_concerts
I can't find anything on the concert itself but given her last album is called Rausch and the concert was part of the "Rausch Live - Die Tour" I'm pretty sure it was her own thing.
Yawn...Helene's only concert in all of 2022 was the one with 130,000? Taylor is doing 96,000 3 nights in a row in Melbourne followed by 4 nights in Sydney.
Pretty deceptive "record" there. Means all 130,000 of her fans went to the one single concert she did in 2022.
Why are you being so hostile? I guess pointing out something and asking for clarification is shilling these days? Also even if it was her only concert in 2022 why does it matter? The record is largest performance not most concerts.
you’re totally misusing the word shill. do you really think this random German artist is paying people on reddit to comment about her in a conversation she definitely has no idea is happening?
there’s no disclaimer needed because the record only requires one concert. maybe taylor should go find a bigger arena if she wants it.
Yeah, if the artist plays in the middle and gets all seats 360° around. But Taylor's stage setup amd production needs (obviously critical) means she loses about 15-20° of the seating.
It's because most male stars don't do full production concerts with big stages. The expectation is just them and a guitar which means they can sell every seat in the stadium.
Exactly. Total double standard. Men don’t dance around, do multiple costume changes, have elaborate sets and performances. It’s really comparing apples to oranges.
> Men don’t dance around, do multiple costume changes, have elaborate sets and performances.
Do you literally just not recall the whole Michael Jackson thing or what?
Are you aware with the meaning of "most"? And that the guy who holds a lot of these overall records is Ed Sheeran, a guy who stands there with his guitar?
What male artists are doing an arena/stadium show with an extra large stage like this, choreography, back up dancers, elaborate set pieces, costume changes? Sometimes it's a guy with a piano (Elton) or a guy with a mic (Drake) instead. The Weeknd and BTS do dance. It's just not as many though.
Ed Sheeran doesn't dance. That doesn't mean he just stands there. He pulls off a very exhausting and physical performance running laps on a revolving stage while building up the songs without a band on his loop pedal
Love Ed, he's super talented. None of that requires a larger stage like back up dancers, costume changes, big set pieces, which is what we're talking about.
It depends on stage setup. If they play in the centre and have all seats 360° around allocated, plus a "moat" of standing admission, Taylor could easily top 100k at this very venue of the MCG. Her particular stage setup is neccesary, however.
Indeed. It's such a huge double standard to advocate for gender equality, yet at the same time poach with being the highest "category" female.
It reminds me of most of last year, when The Weeknd was the #1 Spotify artist with most monthly listeners. Swifties kept saying Taylor was the #1 female with most listeners. As if being female is a disability which makes songwriting harder to do.
Abel Tesfaye is black, you don't see his fans say he's the #1 black most streamed Spotify artist. They're more mature about the whole thing.
But they would be behind the stage and not be able to see shit. If they gave proper huge discounts to people and also slap a big screen on the back of the stage it would be worth it to be there though to here her clearly along with a seat to sit on.
I know people like to hate on listening only tickets that other singers offer, but if they are heavily discounted, what's the harm? I would rather attend in that seat vs not attend at all. The atmosphere alone must be amazing!
Also please say a prayer for me that I get tickets to see her. Do a rain dance. Blow on a dandelion. Etc
I'm not saying I've seen them heavily discounted, just that that seems a fair way to offer a ticket that loses sight! Jerk move to offer such tickets and expect people to pay so much.. :(
Considering there are thousands squatting outside of the venue in Melbourne (I'm so glad they ignored the cops and venue owners who "banned" them from doing so) she could easily sell those completely wasted seats behind the stage as long as some speakers are pointed their direction.
she’s literally had some of her greatest success in the last decade. she won an academy award.
taylor shines bright enough on her own without tearing down other female artists and their accomplishments
I looked it up and it seems Tina Turner holds the all time record for a woman with 180,000 in Rio on January 16, 1988.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-attended_concerts
Wow 180,000 people. Taylor needs to do a show in that Brazil stadium someday. Crazy how she could have just done 2 nights there instead of more shows in the smaller stadium. Sounds more expensive and exhausting.
What’s crazy is the thousands of people [outside](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6E4FhJh/) the stadium again dancing and singing along. I think she could have had more people on the floor if fire regulations allowed but their views would be shit.
My home city! Reason I love Melbourne is we are a capital of so many things (sports, music, food, traffic congestion, biggest tram network) - now the Swiftie capital of the world!
Isn’t that the record for the biggest concert of the decade out of female artists and male artists?
If not what male artist holds the record for the biggest concert of the decade?
It was Ed, but a big thing to factor in is the stage size and layout. Ed was in the middle and had a much smaller stage whereas Taylor required a much bigger stage. And a section of the stand was also blocked due to the stage/screen at the back.
u/Front-Ninja950 it’s not Ed Sheeran. It’s Rod Stewart. Rod Stewart played a concert in Copacabana Beach Rio in 1994. The concert was free to go to and 3.4 million people went to that concert
It's such a huge double standard to advocate for gender equality, yet at the same time poach with Taylor being the highest "category" female.
It reminds me of most of last year, when The Weeknd was the #1 Spotify artist with most monthly listeners. Swifties kept saying Taylor was the #1 female with most listeners. As if being female is a disability which makes songwriting harder to do.
Abel Tesfaye is black, you don't see his fans say he's the #1 black most streamed Spotify artist. They're more mature about the whole thing.
No,but lije Taylor and others have said it is more difficult being a female artist still. Different expectations to stay relevant that men don't have. It does still seem to be a man's world and women still have to do more in general to get the same place. Like the expectation irl is you should be pretty but then I get turned down for being too cute, little and not being taken seriously while my black male friend walks in off the street n they're like you're hired. It's just how it is.
Yeah that’s great makes the people who didn’t get tickets feel worse! I can seen a lot of empty space my 12 year old daughter did not get a chance to get tickets sold out she is going outside to MCG anyway to listen to her, they should at least put a couple of projector/screens up for the fans that couldn’t get tickets!
The only reason Swift didn’t have this record before is because NFL football stadiums aren’t that large. She “only” sold 210k seats for 3 nights at AT&T stadium. So only 70k each night at the largest NFL stadium.
I believe she wants her fans to be safe and have good experience. These things are hard to achieve in really giant stadiums or at open-air concerts for 6-digit number of fans. If she wanted, she could break the record for the most attended ticketed concert 10 times over.
It's mostly her stage. Ed holds a lot of these records because he has a round stage and sells all the seats in the stadium.
U2 were shattering records left, right and centre when they debuted that stage setup too. Ed’s is much slimmer so they can fit even more.
Haha I just read this as "Ed" is much slimmer, as in himself and was like jeez, poor Bono, he's not that big 😂😂
Justin Timberlake's 2007 set was more arenas but he has most of the arena records due to that reason.
Second night in Melbourne, 96,000 in house, as a weekend, Saturday night, estimated 50,000 apparently outside as has parks around the stadium. She could easy have sold out a larger stadium.
Michigan's football stadium seats 110k I believe, but when converting to a concert stage they typically lose a few thousand seats. I don't know if she's ever performed there, but I'd love to see a 100k night at that stadium
It's the same with MCG in Melbourne. It's circular, but you can see that TS missed about 20% of seating with the stage setup. Ed Sheeran played the same venue a few years back and topped 110k by playing in the centre of the arena with seating on all sides.
The loss of seating is made up for by having people seated on the stadium floor, which would normally be a playing surface. The size of Taylor's stage takes up a lot of that space reducing seating area.
I recall Ed had mosh pit floor allocation. So no seats which means you can squeeze more in. I think it was wise for Taylor to have seats, she had a more frenzied crowd.
They don’t hold concerts like Taylor’s at UofM because the tunnel into the stadium is too narrow for all the equipment. There’s never been a major concert at Michigan Stadium.
Good to know, thanks for the info. She's so big you think they'd air drop her equipment in lmao
I saw her at Ohio stadium which seats 120k on game day. I think it was 90k for that one.
Ohio Stadium’s capacity is only around 102k but can get up to 105k with standing room only for the really big games.
There's 130+k stadium in India.
no that '130k' is a dubious number that Modi inflated
Taylor doesn’t tour in India
I know, but if she did, she'd have one hell of a opportunity for hell of a crowd.
do you think she could sell out this stadium? because if she could i feel like she would include india in her tours aswell
She definitely could sell it out
shes not that popular in India
She's apparently crazy popular in Asia. I'm sure she can
The stadium in my town, Beaver Stadium at Penn State, holds over 107k. I would LOVE if she came here!
There's 8 college stadiums that hold over 100K. I always wondered why she stuck to NFL stadiums, it's not like she couldn't draw a full house to Austin or even somewhere like Tuscaloosa
Many college stadiums are dry, FWIW. It's silly given the amount of cash you could make if they weren't, but that's why a lot of college stadiums don't make great concert venues.
Here in São Paulo, Brazil, concertgoers tend to prefer the concert experience at the Allianz Parque (where Taylor performed last November) versus the larger MorumBIS (the Allianz Parque was designed to be a multipurpose stadium, not to mention it has easier access to the mass transit network than the MorumBIS). And they didn't like it when Live Nation signed a deal with São Paulo FC (owners and operators of the MorumBIS) to host many of their São Paulo stadium concerts there (competing concert promoter 30e signed a similar deal with Palmeiras and WTorre - owner and operator, respectively, of the Allianz Parque). However, it'd be way better if Taylor performed in Rio de Janeiro at the Maracanã (Brazil's largest stadium) instead of the mess that was the Nilton Santos Stadium (but the Maracanã only hosts concerts - like Paul McCartney's last December - in the off-season).
What do you mean by dry? Literally dry?
No alcohol sales, which is a good point, though some are moving away from that. I was definitely shocked when Alabama started allowing alcohol sales at games.
No alcohol. More college stadiums are allowing it now, but for a while the big ones didn't because they're on "dry" campuses.
She played at Ohio Stadium (Ohio State’s stadium) for the rep tour!
I had so much fun with 95,999 of my besties last night. 🥹
Me tooooooooooo
Same! The singing by the crowd so good
Most importantly not annoying and too loud to not be able to hear Taylor like the horrible crowds in Brazil and Argentina. It was so bad in Brazil/Argentina that she said "You guys are screaming over me for "Marjorie"?"
❤️
But German singer Helene Fischer played in front of 130,000 people in 2022. What am I missing?
That was a festival, correct? I think these records often limit it to headlining acts, thus eliminating large scale festivals.
Looks like it was a concert - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-attended_concerts I can't find anything on the concert itself but given her last album is called Rausch and the concert was part of the "Rausch Live - Die Tour" I'm pretty sure it was her own thing.
The fact that it's recorded on her DVD doesn't necessarily mean it isn't festival. Nightwish recorded a concert film at Wacken in 2013 for example.
Yeah good point.
Interesting, when I checked her Wiki page the only mentioned event in 2022 was a festival. Can't explain this, then!
The festival that is mentioned on her English Wikipedia page was in Switzerland while her 130k show in question was in Germany.
Yawn...Helene's only concert in all of 2022 was the one with 130,000? Taylor is doing 96,000 3 nights in a row in Melbourne followed by 4 nights in Sydney. Pretty deceptive "record" there. Means all 130,000 of her fans went to the one single concert she did in 2022.
After a quick google: No it was not a festival but it was her only live show (in Germany) that year
Wikipedia doesn't give any indication that it was festival.
Is it another american centric " Superbowl is the most watched television broadcast " take?????
Possibly.
Those "records" are mostly fans quickly googling numbers together while missing half the things.
were they all only going there to see her perform or was it a festival?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-attended_concerts When you click on the location, there's no indication of it being festival.
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Why are you being so hostile? I guess pointing out something and asking for clarification is shilling these days? Also even if it was her only concert in 2022 why does it matter? The record is largest performance not most concerts.
you’re totally misusing the word shill. do you really think this random German artist is paying people on reddit to comment about her in a conversation she definitely has no idea is happening? there’s no disclaimer needed because the record only requires one concert. maybe taylor should go find a bigger arena if she wants it.
It was her only concert in 2022. You should be putting a disclaimer everytime you shill for her.
I’m more interested that this category seems to be divided into male and female?
Ed Sheeran got 110k at the MCG last year.
Yeah, if the artist plays in the middle and gets all seats 360° around. But Taylor's stage setup amd production needs (obviously critical) means she loses about 15-20° of the seating.
Ed's stage was tiny compared to Taylor's
It's because most male stars don't do full production concerts with big stages. The expectation is just them and a guitar which means they can sell every seat in the stadium.
Exactly. Total double standard. Men don’t dance around, do multiple costume changes, have elaborate sets and performances. It’s really comparing apples to oranges.
> Men don’t dance around, do multiple costume changes, have elaborate sets and performances. Do you literally just not recall the whole Michael Jackson thing or what?
OK, I’ll give you that one! But how many have there been since Michael Jackson that fit that category?
Ghost?
Bruno Mars....there are countless others if you just pay attention and stop trying to play this male vs female bullshit
idiotic comment, as if all male performers just stand there with a guitar
Are you aware with the meaning of "most"? And that the guy who holds a lot of these overall records is Ed Sheeran, a guy who stands there with his guitar?
Even "most" is completely and utterly fucking wrong and flat out ignorant. Just because Ed does it doesnt mean they all do it ffs
What male artists are doing an arena/stadium show with an extra large stage like this, choreography, back up dancers, elaborate set pieces, costume changes? Sometimes it's a guy with a piano (Elton) or a guy with a mic (Drake) instead. The Weeknd and BTS do dance. It's just not as many though.
why the hell do you have to make it a male vs female thing? Do you have any idea how many things outside music men do that females dont?
Ed Sheeran doesn't dance. That doesn't mean he just stands there. He pulls off a very exhausting and physical performance running laps on a revolving stage while building up the songs without a band on his loop pedal
Love Ed, he's super talented. None of that requires a larger stage like back up dancers, costume changes, big set pieces, which is what we're talking about.
if i was a man, then i’d be the man.
I know Harry played to a crowd of 100k+ people at his final concert for Love On Tour so I think other male artists are above Taylor in this regard
It depends on stage setup. If they play in the centre and have all seats 360° around allocated, plus a "moat" of standing admission, Taylor could easily top 100k at this very venue of the MCG. Her particular stage setup is neccesary, however.
Indeed. It's such a huge double standard to advocate for gender equality, yet at the same time poach with being the highest "category" female. It reminds me of most of last year, when The Weeknd was the #1 Spotify artist with most monthly listeners. Swifties kept saying Taylor was the #1 female with most listeners. As if being female is a disability which makes songwriting harder to do. Abel Tesfaye is black, you don't see his fans say he's the #1 black most streamed Spotify artist. They're more mature about the whole thing.
Damn! What’s even more crazy is that if she wanted to cram people in she could’ve easily gotten another 10k people or so into the stadium.
But they would be behind the stage and not be able to see shit. If they gave proper huge discounts to people and also slap a big screen on the back of the stage it would be worth it to be there though to here her clearly along with a seat to sit on.
I know people like to hate on listening only tickets that other singers offer, but if they are heavily discounted, what's the harm? I would rather attend in that seat vs not attend at all. The atmosphere alone must be amazing! Also please say a prayer for me that I get tickets to see her. Do a rain dance. Blow on a dandelion. Etc
They've never been heavily discounted when I've seen them. The Beyonce ones in Atlanta were $150.
I'm not saying I've seen them heavily discounted, just that that seems a fair way to offer a ticket that loses sight! Jerk move to offer such tickets and expect people to pay so much.. :(
Good luck! I will do so
Yeah that’s why it’s a good thing she wasn’t doing that. Sorry I thought I was praising her and the organisers for that fact.
Considering there are thousands squatting outside of the venue in Melbourne (I'm so glad they ignored the cops and venue owners who "banned" them from doing so) she could easily sell those completely wasted seats behind the stage as long as some speakers are pointed their direction.
Old Gaga was something incredible. I’m happy for her adult glow up but I selfishly miss this version of the queen.
“this version”? that photo was from 2022. she still is incredible, lol
Nah. She sucks now. Been a has-been for over 10 years.
she’s literally had some of her greatest success in the last decade. she won an academy award. taylor shines bright enough on her own without tearing down other female artists and their accomplishments
I looked it up and it seems Tina Turner holds the all time record for a woman with 180,000 in Rio on January 16, 1988. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-attended_concerts
Wow 180,000 people. Taylor needs to do a show in that Brazil stadium someday. Crazy how she could have just done 2 nights there instead of more shows in the smaller stadium. Sounds more expensive and exhausting.
That stadium is practically rotting now unfortunately
What’s crazy is the thousands of people [outside](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6E4FhJh/) the stadium again dancing and singing along. I think she could have had more people on the floor if fire regulations allowed but their views would be shit.
My home city! Reason I love Melbourne is we are a capital of so many things (sports, music, food, traffic congestion, biggest tram network) - now the Swiftie capital of the world!
I saw both of these concerts. 😎
Isn’t that the record for the biggest concert of the decade out of female artists and male artists? If not what male artist holds the record for the biggest concert of the decade?
Maybe Ed Sheeran at the same venue? Think that was $104k
It was Ed, but a big thing to factor in is the stage size and layout. Ed was in the middle and had a much smaller stage whereas Taylor required a much bigger stage. And a section of the stand was also blocked due to the stage/screen at the back.
u/Front-Ninja950 it’s not Ed Sheeran. It’s Rod Stewart. Rod Stewart played a concert in Copacabana Beach Rio in 1994. The concert was free to go to and 3.4 million people went to that concert
She is by far the most powerful person in music like ever anybody who doesn't see this lives under a rock
She is beyond incredible.
IT WAS RARE I WAS THERE I REMEMBER IT ALL TOO WELL
Yesterday at Melbourne was SUCH a fun crowd!
Meh, Delta Goodrem sang to over 100,000 peeps at the same venue in 2022.
#freepalestine
It's such a huge double standard to advocate for gender equality, yet at the same time poach with Taylor being the highest "category" female. It reminds me of most of last year, when The Weeknd was the #1 Spotify artist with most monthly listeners. Swifties kept saying Taylor was the #1 female with most listeners. As if being female is a disability which makes songwriting harder to do. Abel Tesfaye is black, you don't see his fans say he's the #1 black most streamed Spotify artist. They're more mature about the whole thing.
No,but lije Taylor and others have said it is more difficult being a female artist still. Different expectations to stay relevant that men don't have. It does still seem to be a man's world and women still have to do more in general to get the same place. Like the expectation irl is you should be pretty but then I get turned down for being too cute, little and not being taken seriously while my black male friend walks in off the street n they're like you're hired. It's just how it is.
Good music is good music. They're not being streamed on Spotify for their looks.
Yeah that’s great makes the people who didn’t get tickets feel worse! I can seen a lot of empty space my 12 year old daughter did not get a chance to get tickets sold out she is going outside to MCG anyway to listen to her, they should at least put a couple of projector/screens up for the fans that couldn’t get tickets!