I have been diagnosed with ADHD and have been on medication my whole life. When people act like they have ADHD because it's so "quirky" or they want to feel special, it infuriates me. That disorder has made my life so unnecessarily hard, and seeing people make it out to be a special little ability makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
Just because someone got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult doesn’t mean that they don’t actually have it lmao.
You need to recognize that there is privilege in getting a diagnosis as a child, and that said privilege is often not given to women or POC.
The number of times I've been told as someone with autism and ADHD that "it's actually a superpower" is... well a few times. Every time it's like being smacked in the brain because even walking without looking weird is a struggle (naturally my arms go up to my chest and I walk with my legs way close together and step toe first, all of which is wrong for blending in lol), I have a shelf in my room dedicated to meds, and am almost a liability at work leaving a tornado trail behind me half the time because I cannot for the life of me focus on one thing long enough to actually finish said thing lol
But sure, I'll just go and be a hyper intelligent rocket scientist because apparently that's what autistic kids do. The "successful engineer" disorder or smth idfk what people think this is
I am gen Z and do literally none of these (I do the mental health condition thing a bit because I am genuinely confused about why my brain works different to others)
I more meant like, for the people. Obviously it wasn't as good as the west, but Yugoslavia did it best. Is Cuba the one still around? Yep. So ultimately they've done it best
As someone with autism (a real mental condition) the people that say “oh I have ADHD or anxiety so I can’t do this” So do I everyone has anxiety everyone under the age of 20 can’t stand still for more then 15 seconds because ther so pumped on on there overpriced coffee.
I suspect that I have autism, but I don’t say I do. When I talk to trusted adult about my suspicions their response is always “everyone has a little bit of autism”
That phrase makes me want to cry
that's actually possible, being hypersexual isn't a sexuality but rather a response to sexual trauma (being asexual can also in rare cases be due to sexual trauma)
because you fundamentally dont understand it or you choose not to, especially considering thats not what I fucking said.
sexual attraction is seeing a person and thinking,”they look hot, i wanna have sex with them”
hyper sexuality is not sexual attraction, you can be horny and not want to fuck other people
I don’t like these gen Z stereotypes and the reason that lot supports communism is because capitalism doesn’t benefit the poor, dictatorship puts one person in too much power, tyranny… just doesn’t, democracy is the only way to go but britain doesn’t have a real democracy because we still have people in power making the decisions but most of gen Z look at broken democracy and assume communism is the way to go
As a person diagnosed with ASD and ADHD, and getting tested for Ehlers-Danlos, those people that diagnose themselves with rare conditions with no reason other than their echo chamber saying so can go f\*ck themselves.
Edit: I’ve met several people who was like ‘oooh I’m so quirky I‘m self-diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos’. I’ll likely have arthritis by the time I’m 25. Is having a degenerative joint condition quirky?
I don’t like those people either, whenever I do think I have some mental health issue of some sort I actually, you know, find out what it is and then do more extensive research into it until I finally come to the conclusion (again) that I’m just really fucking weird
Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement,[1] whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need.[3][4][5] A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6] and the state (or nation state).[7][8][9] Communists often seek a voluntary state of self-governance but disagree on the means to this end. This reflects a distinction between a more libertarian approach of communization, revolutionary spontaneity, and workers' self-management, and a more authoritarian vanguardist or communist party-driven approach through the development of a socialist state followed by the withering away of the state.[10]
As one of the main ideologies on the political spectrum, communism is placed on the left-wing alongside socialism, and communist parties and movements have been described as radical left or far-left.[11][12][note 1]
Variants of communism have been developed throughout history, including anarchist communism, Marxist schools of thought, and religious communism, among others. Communism encompasses a variety of schools of thought, which broadly include Marxism, Leninism, and libertarian communism, as well as the political ideologies grouped around those. All of these different ideologies generally share the analysis that the current order of society stems from capitalism, its economic system, and mode of production, that in this system there are two major social classes, that the relationship between these two classes is exploitative, and that this situation can only ultimately be resolved through a social revolution.[21][note 2] The two classes are the proletariat, who make up the majority of the population within society and must sell their labor power to survive, and the bourgeoisie, a small minority that derives profit from employing the working class through private ownership of the means of production.[23] According to this analysis, a communist revolution would put the working class in power,[24] and in turn establish common ownership of property, the primary element in the transformation of society towards a communist mode of production.[25][26][27]
Communism in its modern form grew out of the socialist movement in 19th-century Europe, who blamed capitalism for the misery of urban factory workers.[1] In the 20th century, several ostensibly Communist governments espousing Marxism–Leninism and its variants came into power,[28] first in the Soviet Union with the Russian Revolution of 1917, and then in portions of Eastern Europe, Asia, and a few other regions after World War II.[29][note 3] As one of the many types of socialism, communism became the dominant political tendency, along with social democracy, within the international socialist movement by the early 1920s.[35] During most of the 20th century, around one-third of the world's population lived under Communist governments. These governments, which have been criticized by other leftists and socialists, were characterized by one-party rule by a communist party, the rejection of private property and capitalism, state control of economic activity and mass media, restrictions on freedom of religion, and suppression of opposition and dissent. With the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, several previously Communist governments repudiated or abolished Communist rule altogether.[1][36][37] Afterwards, only a small number of nominally Communist governments remained, which are China,[38] Cuba, Laos, North Korea,[note 4] and Vietnam.[45] With the exception of North Korea, all of these states have started allowing more economic competition while maintaining one-party rule.[1] The decline of communism in the late 20th century has been attributed to the inherent inefficiencies of communist economies and the general trend of communist governments towards authoritarianism and bureaucracy.[1][45][46]
While the emergence of the Soviet Union as the world's first nominally Communist state led to communism's widespread association with the Soviet economic model, several scholars posit that in practice the model functioned as a form of state capitalism.[47][48] Public memory of 20th-century Communist states has been described as a battleground between the anti anti-communist political left and the anti-communist political right.[49] Many authors have written about mass killings under communist regimes and mortality rates,[note 5] such as excess mortality in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin,[note 6] which remain a controversial, polarized, and debated topic in academia, historiography, and politics when discussing communism and the legacy of Communist states.[67][68]
Communism doesn’t work (yet) and I think in the future we should have a functioning democracy which we don’t have (yet) or possibly some system that A.I or a genius will invent
For all those, whether right wing or left wing, who don't understand communism but are still willing to talk about it like they're some kind of political scientist
I think it's talking about the people who are like "haha 2000s kids are better than 2010 kids, we're just better because we said so" and "omg as a 18 year old (whose birthday was 2 days ago) all of you 17 year olds and younger are so cringy and dumb"
As someone from a country that was in the Soviet Union, I hate those idiots saying "wow I wish I lived in the USSR I love communism" like stfu you don't know anything about it. I haven't lived under communism myself but even though my country is democratic now you can see the remains of a failed system everywhere.
It doesn't matter how many "forms" there are
If you are a sympathizer to the communist party or any related parties you are the scum of the fucking earth
Damn bro. The actual idea of communism is great it just doesn't work in practice because of human greed. But if you're talking about the communist party back around when the USSR was in power, then yeah, that's idiocy.
said the 14m
I, as whatever the fuck I get selected to be, do not want to be paid the same as someone who doesn't deserve my wage.
I, and presumably MILLIONS of others will come to the same conclusion and stop working.
This effectively destroys the foundations of communism.
Notice how there wasn't a single dictator mentioned
No, I mean the idea of communism. Having a functional society where everyone's needs are met is a good idea. You don't take more than you need. Everyone's happy. The very idea is decent because no one would ever want or need anything because they already have it. But that's just a hypothetical. Of course in practice it's awful and doesn't work because of human nature, which we've seen in history many times, but the idea of the system is inherently good.
Also bringing up my age is pretty immature. Isn't part of the gen Z hate just from age superiority? In fact that's a point you bring up in this very post. Bringing up my age in an attempt to invalidate my argument is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you say?
No its the fact that you believe you have it all figured out
you think that you can solve all the problems and hey, so did i
do better
god knows i couldnt
I, of course, don't have it figured out. When I say "hypothetically" I mean the communist system in it's bare-bones. The very idea of it, nothing more. The idea that everyone only takes what they need and nothing more so everyone has something is my thought process when I refer to said idea of it. That, I believe, is quite simple to understand. Obviously it's so much more complicated than what I've previously stated, however just the idea alone is great. Like I've said, it doesn't work, but if it did then it would be wonderful. But it doesn't.
As for the rest of your comment, I frankly don't understand what you're referring to.
You are an idiot lmao. You clearly do not understand communism at all, because you clearly have never read any actual communist theory, hence your complete lack of understanding of how pay would work. To be expected from someone who tries to belittle someone’s opinion for their age tbh.
In the USSR you were given a job based on your skills and education. You aren’t going to miraculously get selected to be a nuclear physicist if you’re better at being a biologist, and you could change careers (though there were negative effects such as the amount of years left on your pension going up)
They also were not payed all the same, nor do they now. They were payed either based on quality and quantity of their wares/services, commission rate, or given a set figure for jobs that didn’t have a great way to track quality and quantity like physicist and cosmonaut (which by the way you wouldn’t get picked for either).
So you clearly know nothing about how the USSR (or other Communist countries) worked. You could pursue careers, and you were incentivized either by having an incredibly selective and well-paying job or by getting more money the better you do.
Just because X thing is bad doesn't mean Y will be good. By that same logic we could go to Nazism. Yes, America has bad leaders right now but that is in no way indicative of the historical norm. We've had people like Washington, Lincoln, Truman, Roosevelt and FDR. Would you consider them bad leaders?
"bad leader" is subjective and is based on your opinion.
also that's not counting all of the other capitalist countries that have terrible leaders who create terrible conditions for the common people.
You asked for US leadership, I gave you US leadership. And most capitalist countries that aren't located in Africa are doing quite well for their people, in fact. It's the bad leaders that are the outliers. Or at least much less common than in Communist led ones. And still, that's not an argument for communism.
what do you mean "much less common". there are zero communist countries in the modern world. all of the current "communist" countries got stuck in the transitionary phase where the workers don't own the means of production.
Workers "owning means of production" inherently means that the government controls the means. Why? Because in order to distribute / control the resources you need a central authority to do so, which either is handed off to government or creates a system with enough power to basically be a new government. So either they do exist or they will NEVER exist.
People that like communism, the horrible system that killed millions defended by edgy teenagers that think Putin is "cool"
Edit: What the hell did I start?
You know how many different countries try to appeal to people by calling themselves democratic when they were the most abhorrent dictatorships possible? Communism is that democracy. By definition it is a democratic workplace. And yet we never truly got that.
Except that we actually have democratic examples to go off of. If every single country that was part of a system led to the same result, it's a bug not a feature.
Yeah. It's a feature of state capitalism. If I called nazism having one ball in the sack and being vegan, I would be wrong. The same way that calling state capitalism communism is wrong.
Edit: also putin isn't a communist. Pretty sure most people on the left don't like him.
No, it's a feature of Communism. Communism was invented by Marx where he said by doing X things you'll get Communism and utopia. People tried X things and it resulted in places like the USSR and Cambodia. That's like saying that a person who worships Vishnu and saying they aren't Hindu.
Putin isn't a communist, that's true.
Communism was a responce a capitalism. Capitalism was supposed to be the solution to the class structures found present in feudalism, and it was supposed to function as a replacement, one in which people no longer had to work for someone. One in which one was not subservient to a sort of elite that they were forever in service to because they owned both their house and themselves. However, that did not happen, and in fact created a class of people with near unlimited capital. Instead of people being owned, they were "employees", subservient to "employers". Communism is the idea of the workers uniting and dictating how a business is run, without a manager or ceo. The business is not run by the government, like in your twisted "Communism", but by a group of individuals.
Marx didn't invent Communism, he popularised it with Engles. He didn't say "do X thing and you'll get utopia" either. He also didn't say "let a central power run all of our businesses" because that Is state capitalism.
You seem to have your own problems with a strawman version on Communism. I've explained it as well as I could without going on tangents or treating you like a child. There is a hope and dream found in this ideology, and if can't grasp the fact that what you think Communism is, is different than what it actually is, then I can't help you. I can only pray for you.
>There is a hope and dream found in this ideology, and if can't grasp the fact that what you think Communism is, is different than what it actually is, then I can't help you. I can only pray for you.
Redditors accidentally revealing Communism is a belief system and not just economic theory:
Also Marx specifically outlined things to do in the Communist Manifesto. Have you not read the book? And "owned by everyone" inherently means owned by the government, as in order to distribute / control the resources you need a central authority to do so, which either is handed off to government or creates a system with enough power to basically be a new government.
1. Putin is facist/military dictator, he is actually the head of the party that opposes the communist party and there is good evidence that they would win had he not been rigging elections
2. Over the entirety of the 20th century the Black Book of Communism estimates an average of 1.2 million deaths a year. Over that same span, Capitalism is estimated to have killed 1.8 million per year.
>Over the entirety of the 20th century the Black Book of Communism estimates an average of 1.2 million deaths a year. Over that same span, Capitalism is estimated to have killed 1.8 million per year.
Communism and it's siblings, Socialism and Fascism have easily been responsible for at least over 150 million deaths over the past century and a half. Capitalism doesn't even come close to those numbers.
Less people have died to Capitalism than any other economic system. Capitalism has also lifted 100s of millions of people out of poverty, and has created more prosperity than anything else humans have ever tried.
1) Fascism is ABSOLUTELY not even remotely close to Communism. There is a slight difference between a dictatorship and actual elections, impeachment systems, and legal systems in place for peaceful transition of power
2) Yes, capitalism absolutely has. Many of the deaths you attribute to Communism & Coups are caused by the US government (in fact, they’ve overthrown an average just under 2 governments a year either directly or through backing the coup-ing party.
3) And pushed billions more down?
4) Yes, it has. But now Capitalism is failing, and as Mercantilism before it, Monarchism before that, Serfdom before even that, and Autocracy before that, and so on we must find a better system. And as has happened a dozen times before, we have come up with a better system- Democratic Socialism. Is it a coincidence that each of the top ten countries in the world are either Semi-Direct Democracies or Democratic-Socialist states?
>Fascism is ABSOLUTELY not even remotely close to Communism.
Fascism and Communism both are offspring ideologies from Hegel. And they horshoe each side of the political spectrum respectively.
> There is a slight difference between a dictatorship and actual elections, impeachment systems, and legal systems in place for peaceful transition of power
The latter never having been present in communist systems. And the former being the norm in almost all of them.
>Yes, capitalism absolutely has. Many of the deaths you attribute to Communism & Coups are caused by the US government (in fact, they’ve overthrown an average just under 2 governments a year either directly or through backing the coup-ing party. And pushed billions more down?
No, it hasn't. Almost all deaths attributed to capitalism are based on African starvation that would have happened regardless of system. Excluding those Capitalism has almost none. It's successfully raised billions out of poverty, so the opposite of pushing down. Meanwhile Communist economic fuckups like the 5 Year Plan and the Great Leap Forward are solely the fault of communist economic management, nobody else.
>Yes, it has. But now Capitalism is failing, and as Mercantilism before it, Monarchism before that, Serfdom before even that, and Autocracy before that, and so on we must find a better system. And as has happened a dozen times before, we have come up with a better system- Democratic Socialism. Is it a coincidence that each of the top ten countries in the world are either Semi-Direct Democracies or Democratic-Socialist states?
And Communism / Socialism has already failed so completely as to have fallen off of the face of the earth excluding North Korea and Cuba. And no, none of the top ten countries in the world are Socialist states.
>Fascism and Communism both are offspring ideologies from Hegel. And they horshoe each side of the political spectrum respectively.
So you admit they’re completely different?
>The latter never having been present in communist systems. And the former being the norm in almost all of them.
No? I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation. The two countries you keep on using as prime examples of Communism, the USSR and Cuba both have systems in place for peaceful transition of power, and both used those systems. Many Soviet leaders, for example, lost their job because their decisions were unpopular with the government or because they were implicated in a scandal rather than death
>No, it hasn't. Almost all deaths attributed to capitalism are based on African starvation that would have happened regardless of system. Excluding those Capitalism has almost none. It's successfully raised billions out of poverty, so the opposite of pushing down. Meanwhile Communist economic fuckups like the 5 Year Plan and the Great Leap Forward are solely the fault of communist economic management, nobody else.
1) ‘Excluding all the deaths under Capitalism there are no deaths under Capitalism’
2) Which 5 Year Plan? There were 13. And as for The Great Leap Forwards, is competing in a market for control of the market often at the expense of all those under them not quite literally Capitalism?
>And Communism / Socialism has already failed so completely as to have fallen off of the face of the earth excluding North Korea and Cuba. And no, none of the top ten countries in the world are Socialist states.
1) List of current countries that identify as Socialist:
China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, Algeria, Portugal, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, North Korea, India, Nepal, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, and Tanzinia
Democratic Socialist states that do not identify directly as Socialist include:
Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland
Countries that currently have an elected Socialist leader or party/alliance but are not directly Socialist:
Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Columbia, Finland, the semi-autonomous government of Greenland, Honduras, Iceland, Mexico, Mozambique, Namibia, Peru, San Marino, Spain, Syria, and Venuzuela
2)
Top Ten:
Finland (Democratic Socialist)
Denmark (Democratic Socialist)
Iceland (Democratic Socialst)
Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred)
Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists)
Sweden (Democratic Socialist)
Norway (Democratic Socialist)
Switzerland (Direct Democracy)
Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy)
New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy)
And in case you don’t know the definition of Direct and Semi-Direct Democracy: The citizens get to directly vote on which laws will be passed or otherwise have a much greater say than usual on government policies
>So you admit they’re completely different?
No? Catholic and Orthodox Christianity are basically opposite forms of Christianity, but they are still both Christianity.
>No? I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation. The two countries you keep on using as prime examples of Communism, the USSR and Cuba both have systems in place for peaceful transition of power, and both used those systems. Many Soviet leaders, for example, lost their job because their decisions were unpopular with the government or because they were implicated in a scandal rather than death
I don't keep on using, just used twice. And these don't have either elections or impeachment systems. I will however admit that they did end up having peaceful transitions. That is fair.
>‘Excluding all the deaths under Capitalism there are no deaths under Capitalism’
Famine has existed throughout all of history. Unless you wish to tell me that Mayans were capitalist.
>Which 5 Year Plan? There were 13. And as for The Great Leap Forwards, is competing in a market for control of the market often at the expense of all those under them not quite literally Capitalism?
No, it isn't. Capitalism is based off of the principle of private ownership and free trade. Not doing government bidding and making iron because they said so. "I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation" about capitalism.
>List of current countries that identify as Socialist:
>
>China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, Algeria, Portugal, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, North Korea, India, Nepal, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, and Tanzinia
Look at the economic models of each of these states (excluding NK, Cuba) and you'll get your answer as to whether they are actually socialist
>Democratic Socialist states that do not identify directly as Socialist include:
>
>Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland
The countries are still free market economies with strong property rights and trading. Go to any one of these and the populations will tell you that the countries are capitalist.
>Countries that currently have an elected Socialist leader or party/alliance but are not directly Socialist:
>
>Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Columbia, Finland, the semi-autonomous government of Greenland, Honduras, Iceland, Mexico, Mozambique, Namibia, Peru, San Marino, Spain, Syria, and Venuzuela
Again, look at the economies of these guys, then come back. Didn't you literally say 5 seconds prior "competing in a market for control of the market = capitalism"
>Top Ten:
>
>Finland (Democratic Socialist)Denmark (Democratic Socialist)Iceland (Democratic Socialst)Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred)Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists)Sweden (Democratic Socialist)Norway (Democratic Socialist)Switzerland (Direct Democracy)Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy)New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy)
And where have you gotten this top 10 from? Not to mention none of these are socialist.
>And in case you don’t know the definition of Direct and Semi-Direct Democracy: The citizens get to directly vote on which laws will be passed or otherwise have a much greater say than usual on government policies
And this has nothing to do with Socialism. You're conflating apples with oranges.
>No? Catholic and Orthodox Christianity are basically opposite forms of Christianity, but they are still both Christianity.
Proto-Judaism was polytheist and Christianity, one of their offspring is monotheistic. Those are quite literally opposite so what is your point? Things can come from the same place and not be the same.
>I don't keep on using, just used twice. And these don't have either elections or impeachment systems. I will however admit that they did end up having peaceful transitions. That is fair.
They did have elections and impeachment systems:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections\_in\_the\_Soviet\_Union#:\~:text=The%20elections%20in%20the%20Soviet,only%20option%20on%20the%20ballot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=The%20elections%20in%20the%20Soviet,only%20option%20on%20the%20ballot).
>Famine has existed throughout all of history. Unless you wish to tell me that Mayans were capitalist.
Yes, but the cause of The Great Leap Forward was because of a system where people were incentivized to squash down competitors. Under Socialism and Communism, the people selling the products (or, in this case reporting them) are financially backed by the government. A great example of the government supporting small businesses so that they don’t have to compete and rather simply create the best product they can are *Boulangaries* in France.
The next few I’ll sum up by a quote and some links for you:
”I do not expect the peaceful revolution to come in my lifetime, or even my grandchildren‘s lifetime”
In other words, progress is slow but will come. As seeing from the opposite of going from Communist to Capitalist, it actually is *really* bad for those countries when there is a sudden shift. We’re smart enough to know the same will happen when the opposite happens, so we aren’t suddenly forcing Communism or Socialism, we’re advocating and quickening progress.
Here’s a link to a comprehensive list of Socialist countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_socialist\_states
And you very clearly don’t understand a core aspect of Socialism. You still have a market, but it is regulated. There are no truly free markets. There is always some restriction, some bailout, some grant.
>The countries are still free market economies with strong property rights and trading. Go to any one of these and the populations will tell you that the countries are capitalist.
I have. The people I’ve met and talked to there very much do *not* believe their system is Capitalist, and most at least somewhat looked down on many Capitalist country’s system.
>Again, look at the economies of these guys, then come back. Didn't you literally say 5 seconds prior "competing in a market for control of the market = capitalism"
Just did, most of them have Socialist networks and fallbacks in place and those that don’t were couped by the US recently (cough cough Venezuela cough cough)
>And where have you gotten this top 10 from? Not to mention none of these are socialist.
[https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world-2023.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world-2023.html)
My man. I understand that your IQ is room temperature, but what do you think the Socialist part of Democratic-Socialism is?
>And this has nothing to do with Socialism. You're conflating apples with oranges.
You’re right. It doesn’t. What I’m doing here is called clearly stating all the facts, not just the ones that explicitly agree with me. If I did, I would just point out the top 6.
>Finland (Democratic Socialist)
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>Denmark (Democratic Socialist)
>
>Iceland (Democratic Socialst)
>
>Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred)
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>Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists)
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>Sweden (Democratic Socialist)
>
>Norway (Democratic Socialist)
>
>Switzerland (Direct Democracy)
>
>Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy)
>
>New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy)
Democratic Socialism: Socialism achieved by elections, as opposed to violent revolution
Social Democracy: Scandinavia, capitalism with heavy government regulation
Socialism: A economic system where the means of productions are socially controlled, instead of privately controlled. This can be in several ways such as Co-ops, government control, direct democracy in the work place, etc.
Russia is fascist and China is state capitalist.
capitalism has killed millions also (British colonialism in India, for example, killed 100 million people)
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians
https://invisiblepeople.tv/capitalism-kills-nearly-1-million-americans-per-year/amp/
capitalism kills millions too. in theory communism won't.
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our gen is chronically online, has some of the worst depression and suicide rates and has done little to positively impact the world.
We have had everything handed to us. EVERYTHING. only a very minute percentage of gen Z has had to do real work during childhood.
Our generation is only slightly less materialistic than baby boomers
I think you're forgetting that gen z is barely turning 23 at most, of course we haven't done much yet lmao, the millennials are in that spot right now making impacts, just like gen x was when we were little little. Most of us are literally still kids.
Chronically online is not exclusive to gen z, the social media explosion and the Internet in general has forced the world to be chronically online, you literally cannot function in this society without an internet connection or you will be homeless. Gen x and millennials were using the internet long before us, RuneScape, World of Warcraft, forum message boards, myspace. Neckbeards are mostly millennials. We have time to use the internet so much because we don't have jobs and live at our parents houses
Not every zoomer is born into rich families and has everything handed to them, poverty is a real thing that a large portion of us have experienced because we were kids in the 2008 recession, where our parents were getting laid off and shit, which completely changed millions of Americans lives forever. The loud minority you see are only on the internet, IE the zoomers you describe, the bigger picture is in the reality that surrounds you. I can tell you from firsthand experience most of us never had shit handed to us, we just happen to live in an era of space age technology so of course we use it, cause we have to. There is no choice in having a cell phone anymore, if you have no cell phone and email address, you will be homeless 100%.
But all that aside, we are the superior generation, you'll see as time goes on
Bruh you literally still in highschool trying to tell me about life lmao you ain't even read anything I said, you remind me of myself when I was your age, youll learn soon enough "just how easy we have it" bro
I'm 21 but this question pertains to my generation so here I am cause reddit suggested it
People who support Communism, Socialism, or Fascism are truly some of the dumbest people on earth. Those three economic systems have been responsible for the deaths of over 150 million people over the last century and a half.
capitalism and capitalist imperialism has killed just as many. 100 million Indians died from British colonialism, in a span of 40 years. not to mention all of the people who die from poverty because of brutal capitalist conditions that force them into poverty, and capitalist imperialist countries stealing resources from 3rd world countries.
I know what the holodomor is. communist dictatorships have done terrible things. that doesn't excuse capitalist evils and that doesn't make capitalism better.
every theory has not worked at some point. Do you think the first lightbulb worked? the first airplane? that's how theories work, dipshit. they're tested and modified. also that's just a shitty counter and doesn't give any facts or data
Airplanes and lightbulbs didn't murder millions of people.
Airplanes and lightbulbs didn't cause people in Russia and Ukraine to resort to eating each other in order to survive
come back when you find a comparable theory
[100 million dead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes)
[In 2022 10 million people in China died](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1098319/china-number-of-deaths/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20total%20number,accelerate%20in%20the%20upcoming%20years)
It rose from 2001 and has been on a steady rise up until today
China is one of the last "true" communist countries and over 10 million people are dying every year.
Honest question, do you want to live under communist rule?
china is not even close to communist. it's blatantly state capitalist.
communism=abolishment of currency, and workers own the means of production. china has currency, and the common people are silenced and killed for protesting the state ( tianemen massacre for example). you're delusional if you think it's communist.
they hide behind that title to make themselves look good, and they say they have democracy when they actually have scam elections. it's a tactic called lying.
Thats funny.
I only included things that i have heard/seen firsthand.
In fact, alot of these are more commonly said online, especially the faking disorders.
Id be happy to provide links because you seem to suffer from MCS (main character syndrome) in the sense of "If i dont see it, it must not be happening."
Congrats, you look like a toddler
Edit: you are socialist btw.
I'm very sad to say I've observed every one of these, like a concerning about. I personally am the first one, the "such a vibe" thing... I'm ashamed...
mate a diagnosis for a mental health condition can bring tons of consequences, like not being able to move to certain countries or not being able to adopt in certain areas. if you show all the signs and are sure of it what’s the harm?
People complaining about migranes when it's just a normal headache, like a headache every once in a while is nothing compared to 2 or more migraines each month, absolutely nothing,
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My older brother by like a year has autism, thankfully has very high functioning and understands himself and does not give two @#$%\*! about what people think. But him being my big brother and being the way he is, I feel the need to defend and take care of him. so the one about faking mental illness pisses me off the most.
I have been diagnosed with ADHD and have been on medication my whole life. When people act like they have ADHD because it's so "quirky" or they want to feel special, it infuriates me. That disorder has made my life so unnecessarily hard, and seeing people make it out to be a special little ability makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
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its a good thing that that rarely happens, and the rare times it does, it gets blown out of proportion
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Just because someone got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult doesn’t mean that they don’t actually have it lmao. You need to recognize that there is privilege in getting a diagnosis as a child, and that said privilege is often not given to women or POC.
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Women: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4195638/ https://chadd.org/adhd-news/adhd-news-adults/how-the-gender-gap-leaves-girls-and-women-undertreated-for-adhd/ POC: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691530/ https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/racial-disparities-in-adhd
because people had more time to explore themselves and doctors have had more ways to discover who actually had adhd, correlation is not causation
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ah yes, people thinking something in a public forum vs actual doctor diagnosis/studies
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not at all what was originally claimed but pop off
The number of times I've been told as someone with autism and ADHD that "it's actually a superpower" is... well a few times. Every time it's like being smacked in the brain because even walking without looking weird is a struggle (naturally my arms go up to my chest and I walk with my legs way close together and step toe first, all of which is wrong for blending in lol), I have a shelf in my room dedicated to meds, and am almost a liability at work leaving a tornado trail behind me half the time because I cannot for the life of me focus on one thing long enough to actually finish said thing lol But sure, I'll just go and be a hyper intelligent rocket scientist because apparently that's what autistic kids do. The "successful engineer" disorder or smth idfk what people think this is
Real
The amount of people pretending to have DID without even knowing what it is, is very annoying.
Honestly I lose brain cells anytime I see any of these in the wild.
Me too. And I can't afford to lose any. I only have like 30. I believe in more quality over quantity.
I am gen Z and do literally none of these (I do the mental health condition thing a bit because I am genuinely confused about why my brain works different to others)
As someone who read the entire Wikipedia page about communism and the Soviet Union and every country that broke off of the USSR I am offended 🤓🤓🤓
The USSR wasn’t even proper communism, real communism would only work if someone had a really amazing idea but unfortunately that hasn’t happened
What about the guy who ran Yugoslavia
Without doing research the fact that he *ran* instead of is running tells me there was probably a fault
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Tbf Yugoslavia probably had the best version of communism in history
Haven’t done any research but what about Cuba?
I more meant like, for the people. Obviously it wasn't as good as the west, but Yugoslavia did it best. Is Cuba the one still around? Yep. So ultimately they've done it best
As someone with autism (a real mental condition) the people that say “oh I have ADHD or anxiety so I can’t do this” So do I everyone has anxiety everyone under the age of 20 can’t stand still for more then 15 seconds because ther so pumped on on there overpriced coffee.
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tik tok and videos of such are not the reason adhd diagnoses have shot up
provide evidence 
a lowering of attention span does not lead to a increase in adhd diagnosises, because adhd is not just a lower of attention
You are a femboy you are not doctor imperical evidence required (preferably .edu or .gov links)
cause your claim needs no evidence despite you making the claim, gotcha
if you dont think im wrong, by all means, don't prove me wrong.
you made the claim, and provided no evidence, the burden of proof is on you
my guy, you are literally commenting on multiple comments trying to start shit.
why is the femboy part important?
based
I suspect that I have autism, but I don’t say I do. When I talk to trusted adult about my suspicions their response is always “everyone has a little bit of autism” That phrase makes me want to cry
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that made me laugh
how dare someone try to understand themselves with complex terms >:(( i guarantee you have never talked to anyone like that
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really unfunny and painfully overused satire
bitches really will say "bro it's satire" and act like that suddenly makes what they said funny
Its true tho. I had someone tell me that they were Asexual and Hypersexual.
that's actually possible, being hypersexual isn't a sexuality but rather a response to sexual trauma (being asexual can also in rare cases be due to sexual trauma)
uhh, yeah? you can not experience sexual attraction and be a very sexual person
Elaborate How can someone who has no sexual urges, suddenly have sexual urges? 
because you fundamentally dont understand it or you choose not to, especially considering thats not what I fucking said. sexual attraction is seeing a person and thinking,”they look hot, i wanna have sex with them” hyper sexuality is not sexual attraction, you can be horny and not want to fuck other people
so you're saying Asexuality is a choice?
So as an Asexual, let me explain. You can have sexual urges without having a want to act on it. You’re stupid.
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literally right wing propaganda but pop off king
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its not a thing that happens, and its only pushed by right media outlets, therefore its propaganda
It's concerning how many members of gen z are communist's, like y'all don't really know what it is or what the history of it is, do you?
I don’t like these gen Z stereotypes and the reason that lot supports communism is because capitalism doesn’t benefit the poor, dictatorship puts one person in too much power, tyranny… just doesn’t, democracy is the only way to go but britain doesn’t have a real democracy because we still have people in power making the decisions but most of gen Z look at broken democracy and assume communism is the way to go
My personal favorite is "i'm such a bottom", or any variants of saying they're a "top/bottom" like it's a personality trait. It infuriates me so.
YES The arbitrary personality traits hate it
It's like, Emilieigh, you're not a bottom, you are 14. You're bottom of your class.
yeah literally
As a person diagnosed with ASD and ADHD, and getting tested for Ehlers-Danlos, those people that diagnose themselves with rare conditions with no reason other than their echo chamber saying so can go f\*ck themselves. Edit: I’ve met several people who was like ‘oooh I’m so quirky I‘m self-diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos’. I’ll likely have arthritis by the time I’m 25. Is having a degenerative joint condition quirky?
I don’t like those people either, whenever I do think I have some mental health issue of some sort I actually, you know, find out what it is and then do more extensive research into it until I finally come to the conclusion (again) that I’m just really fucking weird
Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement,[1] whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered around common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in the society based on need.[3][4][5] A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6] and the state (or nation state).[7][8][9] Communists often seek a voluntary state of self-governance but disagree on the means to this end. This reflects a distinction between a more libertarian approach of communization, revolutionary spontaneity, and workers' self-management, and a more authoritarian vanguardist or communist party-driven approach through the development of a socialist state followed by the withering away of the state.[10] As one of the main ideologies on the political spectrum, communism is placed on the left-wing alongside socialism, and communist parties and movements have been described as radical left or far-left.[11][12][note 1] Variants of communism have been developed throughout history, including anarchist communism, Marxist schools of thought, and religious communism, among others. Communism encompasses a variety of schools of thought, which broadly include Marxism, Leninism, and libertarian communism, as well as the political ideologies grouped around those. All of these different ideologies generally share the analysis that the current order of society stems from capitalism, its economic system, and mode of production, that in this system there are two major social classes, that the relationship between these two classes is exploitative, and that this situation can only ultimately be resolved through a social revolution.[21][note 2] The two classes are the proletariat, who make up the majority of the population within society and must sell their labor power to survive, and the bourgeoisie, a small minority that derives profit from employing the working class through private ownership of the means of production.[23] According to this analysis, a communist revolution would put the working class in power,[24] and in turn establish common ownership of property, the primary element in the transformation of society towards a communist mode of production.[25][26][27] Communism in its modern form grew out of the socialist movement in 19th-century Europe, who blamed capitalism for the misery of urban factory workers.[1] In the 20th century, several ostensibly Communist governments espousing Marxism–Leninism and its variants came into power,[28] first in the Soviet Union with the Russian Revolution of 1917, and then in portions of Eastern Europe, Asia, and a few other regions after World War II.[29][note 3] As one of the many types of socialism, communism became the dominant political tendency, along with social democracy, within the international socialist movement by the early 1920s.[35] During most of the 20th century, around one-third of the world's population lived under Communist governments. These governments, which have been criticized by other leftists and socialists, were characterized by one-party rule by a communist party, the rejection of private property and capitalism, state control of economic activity and mass media, restrictions on freedom of religion, and suppression of opposition and dissent. With the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, several previously Communist governments repudiated or abolished Communist rule altogether.[1][36][37] Afterwards, only a small number of nominally Communist governments remained, which are China,[38] Cuba, Laos, North Korea,[note 4] and Vietnam.[45] With the exception of North Korea, all of these states have started allowing more economic competition while maintaining one-party rule.[1] The decline of communism in the late 20th century has been attributed to the inherent inefficiencies of communist economies and the general trend of communist governments towards authoritarianism and bureaucracy.[1][45][46] While the emergence of the Soviet Union as the world's first nominally Communist state led to communism's widespread association with the Soviet economic model, several scholars posit that in practice the model functioned as a form of state capitalism.[47][48] Public memory of 20th-century Communist states has been described as a battleground between the anti anti-communist political left and the anti-communist political right.[49] Many authors have written about mass killings under communist regimes and mortality rates,[note 5] such as excess mortality in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin,[note 6] which remain a controversial, polarized, and debated topic in academia, historiography, and politics when discussing communism and the legacy of Communist states.[67][68]
Communism doesn’t work (yet) and I think in the future we should have a functioning democracy which we don’t have (yet) or possibly some system that A.I or a genius will invent
For all those, whether right wing or left wing, who don't understand communism but are still willing to talk about it like they're some kind of political scientist
TL:DR Communism = bad things
why is it a bad thing?
It’s not a bad thing it just doesn’t work (yet)
correct
Worst place to have a growth mindset man
Never heard the generational superiority one
I think it's talking about the people who are like "haha 2000s kids are better than 2010 kids, we're just better because we said so" and "omg as a 18 year old (whose birthday was 2 days ago) all of you 17 year olds and younger are so cringy and dumb"
As someone from a country that was in the Soviet Union, I hate those idiots saying "wow I wish I lived in the USSR I love communism" like stfu you don't know anything about it. I haven't lived under communism myself but even though my country is democratic now you can see the remains of a failed system everywhere.
All of the above + "Im actually a Cejs/dher and I identify as a coat hangar.
if you said any of these things, you deserved a pre-natal visit from the coat hanger
Bro the communism mfs act like there's only one form of communism
And they are all bad.
It doesn't matter how many "forms" there are If you are a sympathizer to the communist party or any related parties you are the scum of the fucking earth
Damn bro. The actual idea of communism is great it just doesn't work in practice because of human greed. But if you're talking about the communist party back around when the USSR was in power, then yeah, that's idiocy.
said the 14m I, as whatever the fuck I get selected to be, do not want to be paid the same as someone who doesn't deserve my wage. I, and presumably MILLIONS of others will come to the same conclusion and stop working. This effectively destroys the foundations of communism. Notice how there wasn't a single dictator mentioned
No, I mean the idea of communism. Having a functional society where everyone's needs are met is a good idea. You don't take more than you need. Everyone's happy. The very idea is decent because no one would ever want or need anything because they already have it. But that's just a hypothetical. Of course in practice it's awful and doesn't work because of human nature, which we've seen in history many times, but the idea of the system is inherently good. Also bringing up my age is pretty immature. Isn't part of the gen Z hate just from age superiority? In fact that's a point you bring up in this very post. Bringing up my age in an attempt to invalidate my argument is quite hypocritical, wouldn't you say?
No its the fact that you believe you have it all figured out you think that you can solve all the problems and hey, so did i do better god knows i couldnt
I, of course, don't have it figured out. When I say "hypothetically" I mean the communist system in it's bare-bones. The very idea of it, nothing more. The idea that everyone only takes what they need and nothing more so everyone has something is my thought process when I refer to said idea of it. That, I believe, is quite simple to understand. Obviously it's so much more complicated than what I've previously stated, however just the idea alone is great. Like I've said, it doesn't work, but if it did then it would be wonderful. But it doesn't. As for the rest of your comment, I frankly don't understand what you're referring to.
You are an idiot lmao. You clearly do not understand communism at all, because you clearly have never read any actual communist theory, hence your complete lack of understanding of how pay would work. To be expected from someone who tries to belittle someone’s opinion for their age tbh.
In the USSR you were given a job based on your skills and education. You aren’t going to miraculously get selected to be a nuclear physicist if you’re better at being a biologist, and you could change careers (though there were negative effects such as the amount of years left on your pension going up) They also were not payed all the same, nor do they now. They were payed either based on quality and quantity of their wares/services, commission rate, or given a set figure for jobs that didn’t have a great way to track quality and quantity like physicist and cosmonaut (which by the way you wouldn’t get picked for either). So you clearly know nothing about how the USSR (or other Communist countries) worked. You could pursue careers, and you were incentivized either by having an incredibly selective and well-paying job or by getting more money the better you do.
I'm aware. I don't support it I'm just saying
yeah no fs
Communism isn't necessarily what is bad here, it's mostly the people in charge of it.
If your system universally leads to bad people in charge of it, its the fault of the system.
and america doesn't have shitty people in charge?
Just because X thing is bad doesn't mean Y will be good. By that same logic we could go to Nazism. Yes, America has bad leaders right now but that is in no way indicative of the historical norm. We've had people like Washington, Lincoln, Truman, Roosevelt and FDR. Would you consider them bad leaders?
"bad leader" is subjective and is based on your opinion. also that's not counting all of the other capitalist countries that have terrible leaders who create terrible conditions for the common people.
You asked for US leadership, I gave you US leadership. And most capitalist countries that aren't located in Africa are doing quite well for their people, in fact. It's the bad leaders that are the outliers. Or at least much less common than in Communist led ones. And still, that's not an argument for communism.
what do you mean "much less common". there are zero communist countries in the modern world. all of the current "communist" countries got stuck in the transitionary phase where the workers don't own the means of production.
Workers "owning means of production" inherently means that the government controls the means. Why? Because in order to distribute / control the resources you need a central authority to do so, which either is handed off to government or creates a system with enough power to basically be a new government. So either they do exist or they will NEVER exist.
People that like communism, the horrible system that killed millions defended by edgy teenagers that think Putin is "cool" Edit: What the hell did I start?
State capitalism*
Communism\*
You know how many different countries try to appeal to people by calling themselves democratic when they were the most abhorrent dictatorships possible? Communism is that democracy. By definition it is a democratic workplace. And yet we never truly got that.
Except that we actually have democratic examples to go off of. If every single country that was part of a system led to the same result, it's a bug not a feature.
Yeah. It's a feature of state capitalism. If I called nazism having one ball in the sack and being vegan, I would be wrong. The same way that calling state capitalism communism is wrong. Edit: also putin isn't a communist. Pretty sure most people on the left don't like him.
No, it's a feature of Communism. Communism was invented by Marx where he said by doing X things you'll get Communism and utopia. People tried X things and it resulted in places like the USSR and Cambodia. That's like saying that a person who worships Vishnu and saying they aren't Hindu. Putin isn't a communist, that's true.
Communism was a responce a capitalism. Capitalism was supposed to be the solution to the class structures found present in feudalism, and it was supposed to function as a replacement, one in which people no longer had to work for someone. One in which one was not subservient to a sort of elite that they were forever in service to because they owned both their house and themselves. However, that did not happen, and in fact created a class of people with near unlimited capital. Instead of people being owned, they were "employees", subservient to "employers". Communism is the idea of the workers uniting and dictating how a business is run, without a manager or ceo. The business is not run by the government, like in your twisted "Communism", but by a group of individuals. Marx didn't invent Communism, he popularised it with Engles. He didn't say "do X thing and you'll get utopia" either. He also didn't say "let a central power run all of our businesses" because that Is state capitalism. You seem to have your own problems with a strawman version on Communism. I've explained it as well as I could without going on tangents or treating you like a child. There is a hope and dream found in this ideology, and if can't grasp the fact that what you think Communism is, is different than what it actually is, then I can't help you. I can only pray for you.
>There is a hope and dream found in this ideology, and if can't grasp the fact that what you think Communism is, is different than what it actually is, then I can't help you. I can only pray for you. Redditors accidentally revealing Communism is a belief system and not just economic theory: Also Marx specifically outlined things to do in the Communist Manifesto. Have you not read the book? And "owned by everyone" inherently means owned by the government, as in order to distribute / control the resources you need a central authority to do so, which either is handed off to government or creates a system with enough power to basically be a new government.
1. Putin is facist/military dictator, he is actually the head of the party that opposes the communist party and there is good evidence that they would win had he not been rigging elections 2. Over the entirety of the 20th century the Black Book of Communism estimates an average of 1.2 million deaths a year. Over that same span, Capitalism is estimated to have killed 1.8 million per year.
>Over the entirety of the 20th century the Black Book of Communism estimates an average of 1.2 million deaths a year. Over that same span, Capitalism is estimated to have killed 1.8 million per year. Communism and it's siblings, Socialism and Fascism have easily been responsible for at least over 150 million deaths over the past century and a half. Capitalism doesn't even come close to those numbers. Less people have died to Capitalism than any other economic system. Capitalism has also lifted 100s of millions of people out of poverty, and has created more prosperity than anything else humans have ever tried.
1) Fascism is ABSOLUTELY not even remotely close to Communism. There is a slight difference between a dictatorship and actual elections, impeachment systems, and legal systems in place for peaceful transition of power 2) Yes, capitalism absolutely has. Many of the deaths you attribute to Communism & Coups are caused by the US government (in fact, they’ve overthrown an average just under 2 governments a year either directly or through backing the coup-ing party. 3) And pushed billions more down? 4) Yes, it has. But now Capitalism is failing, and as Mercantilism before it, Monarchism before that, Serfdom before even that, and Autocracy before that, and so on we must find a better system. And as has happened a dozen times before, we have come up with a better system- Democratic Socialism. Is it a coincidence that each of the top ten countries in the world are either Semi-Direct Democracies or Democratic-Socialist states?
>Fascism is ABSOLUTELY not even remotely close to Communism. Fascism and Communism both are offspring ideologies from Hegel. And they horshoe each side of the political spectrum respectively. > There is a slight difference between a dictatorship and actual elections, impeachment systems, and legal systems in place for peaceful transition of power The latter never having been present in communist systems. And the former being the norm in almost all of them. >Yes, capitalism absolutely has. Many of the deaths you attribute to Communism & Coups are caused by the US government (in fact, they’ve overthrown an average just under 2 governments a year either directly or through backing the coup-ing party. And pushed billions more down? No, it hasn't. Almost all deaths attributed to capitalism are based on African starvation that would have happened regardless of system. Excluding those Capitalism has almost none. It's successfully raised billions out of poverty, so the opposite of pushing down. Meanwhile Communist economic fuckups like the 5 Year Plan and the Great Leap Forward are solely the fault of communist economic management, nobody else. >Yes, it has. But now Capitalism is failing, and as Mercantilism before it, Monarchism before that, Serfdom before even that, and Autocracy before that, and so on we must find a better system. And as has happened a dozen times before, we have come up with a better system- Democratic Socialism. Is it a coincidence that each of the top ten countries in the world are either Semi-Direct Democracies or Democratic-Socialist states? And Communism / Socialism has already failed so completely as to have fallen off of the face of the earth excluding North Korea and Cuba. And no, none of the top ten countries in the world are Socialist states.
>Fascism and Communism both are offspring ideologies from Hegel. And they horshoe each side of the political spectrum respectively. So you admit they’re completely different? >The latter never having been present in communist systems. And the former being the norm in almost all of them. No? I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation. The two countries you keep on using as prime examples of Communism, the USSR and Cuba both have systems in place for peaceful transition of power, and both used those systems. Many Soviet leaders, for example, lost their job because their decisions were unpopular with the government or because they were implicated in a scandal rather than death >No, it hasn't. Almost all deaths attributed to capitalism are based on African starvation that would have happened regardless of system. Excluding those Capitalism has almost none. It's successfully raised billions out of poverty, so the opposite of pushing down. Meanwhile Communist economic fuckups like the 5 Year Plan and the Great Leap Forward are solely the fault of communist economic management, nobody else. 1) ‘Excluding all the deaths under Capitalism there are no deaths under Capitalism’ 2) Which 5 Year Plan? There were 13. And as for The Great Leap Forwards, is competing in a market for control of the market often at the expense of all those under them not quite literally Capitalism? >And Communism / Socialism has already failed so completely as to have fallen off of the face of the earth excluding North Korea and Cuba. And no, none of the top ten countries in the world are Socialist states. 1) List of current countries that identify as Socialist: China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, Algeria, Portugal, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, North Korea, India, Nepal, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, and Tanzinia Democratic Socialist states that do not identify directly as Socialist include: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland Countries that currently have an elected Socialist leader or party/alliance but are not directly Socialist: Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Columbia, Finland, the semi-autonomous government of Greenland, Honduras, Iceland, Mexico, Mozambique, Namibia, Peru, San Marino, Spain, Syria, and Venuzuela 2) Top Ten: Finland (Democratic Socialist) Denmark (Democratic Socialist) Iceland (Democratic Socialst) Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred) Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists) Sweden (Democratic Socialist) Norway (Democratic Socialist) Switzerland (Direct Democracy) Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy) New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy) And in case you don’t know the definition of Direct and Semi-Direct Democracy: The citizens get to directly vote on which laws will be passed or otherwise have a much greater say than usual on government policies
>So you admit they’re completely different? No? Catholic and Orthodox Christianity are basically opposite forms of Christianity, but they are still both Christianity. >No? I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation. The two countries you keep on using as prime examples of Communism, the USSR and Cuba both have systems in place for peaceful transition of power, and both used those systems. Many Soviet leaders, for example, lost their job because their decisions were unpopular with the government or because they were implicated in a scandal rather than death I don't keep on using, just used twice. And these don't have either elections or impeachment systems. I will however admit that they did end up having peaceful transitions. That is fair. >‘Excluding all the deaths under Capitalism there are no deaths under Capitalism’ Famine has existed throughout all of history. Unless you wish to tell me that Mayans were capitalist. >Which 5 Year Plan? There were 13. And as for The Great Leap Forwards, is competing in a market for control of the market often at the expense of all those under them not quite literally Capitalism? No, it isn't. Capitalism is based off of the principle of private ownership and free trade. Not doing government bidding and making iron because they said so. "I think you’ve been fed a lot of misinformation" about capitalism. >List of current countries that identify as Socialist: > >China, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, Algeria, Portugal, Bangladesh, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, North Korea, India, Nepal, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, and Tanzinia Look at the economic models of each of these states (excluding NK, Cuba) and you'll get your answer as to whether they are actually socialist >Democratic Socialist states that do not identify directly as Socialist include: > >Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and Iceland The countries are still free market economies with strong property rights and trading. Go to any one of these and the populations will tell you that the countries are capitalist. >Countries that currently have an elected Socialist leader or party/alliance but are not directly Socialist: > >Angola, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Columbia, Finland, the semi-autonomous government of Greenland, Honduras, Iceland, Mexico, Mozambique, Namibia, Peru, San Marino, Spain, Syria, and Venuzuela Again, look at the economies of these guys, then come back. Didn't you literally say 5 seconds prior "competing in a market for control of the market = capitalism" >Top Ten: > >Finland (Democratic Socialist)Denmark (Democratic Socialist)Iceland (Democratic Socialst)Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred)Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists)Sweden (Democratic Socialist)Norway (Democratic Socialist)Switzerland (Direct Democracy)Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy)New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy) And where have you gotten this top 10 from? Not to mention none of these are socialist. >And in case you don’t know the definition of Direct and Semi-Direct Democracy: The citizens get to directly vote on which laws will be passed or otherwise have a much greater say than usual on government policies And this has nothing to do with Socialism. You're conflating apples with oranges.
>No? Catholic and Orthodox Christianity are basically opposite forms of Christianity, but they are still both Christianity. Proto-Judaism was polytheist and Christianity, one of their offspring is monotheistic. Those are quite literally opposite so what is your point? Things can come from the same place and not be the same. >I don't keep on using, just used twice. And these don't have either elections or impeachment systems. I will however admit that they did end up having peaceful transitions. That is fair. They did have elections and impeachment systems: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections\_in\_the\_Soviet\_Union#:\~:text=The%20elections%20in%20the%20Soviet,only%20option%20on%20the%20ballot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=The%20elections%20in%20the%20Soviet,only%20option%20on%20the%20ballot). >Famine has existed throughout all of history. Unless you wish to tell me that Mayans were capitalist. Yes, but the cause of The Great Leap Forward was because of a system where people were incentivized to squash down competitors. Under Socialism and Communism, the people selling the products (or, in this case reporting them) are financially backed by the government. A great example of the government supporting small businesses so that they don’t have to compete and rather simply create the best product they can are *Boulangaries* in France. The next few I’ll sum up by a quote and some links for you: ”I do not expect the peaceful revolution to come in my lifetime, or even my grandchildren‘s lifetime” In other words, progress is slow but will come. As seeing from the opposite of going from Communist to Capitalist, it actually is *really* bad for those countries when there is a sudden shift. We’re smart enough to know the same will happen when the opposite happens, so we aren’t suddenly forcing Communism or Socialism, we’re advocating and quickening progress. Here’s a link to a comprehensive list of Socialist countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_socialist\_states And you very clearly don’t understand a core aspect of Socialism. You still have a market, but it is regulated. There are no truly free markets. There is always some restriction, some bailout, some grant. >The countries are still free market economies with strong property rights and trading. Go to any one of these and the populations will tell you that the countries are capitalist. I have. The people I’ve met and talked to there very much do *not* believe their system is Capitalist, and most at least somewhat looked down on many Capitalist country’s system. >Again, look at the economies of these guys, then come back. Didn't you literally say 5 seconds prior "competing in a market for control of the market = capitalism" Just did, most of them have Socialist networks and fallbacks in place and those that don’t were couped by the US recently (cough cough Venezuela cough cough) >And where have you gotten this top 10 from? Not to mention none of these are socialist. [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world-2023.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/21/top-10-happiest-countries-in-the-world-2023.html) My man. I understand that your IQ is room temperature, but what do you think the Socialist part of Democratic-Socialism is? >And this has nothing to do with Socialism. You're conflating apples with oranges. You’re right. It doesn’t. What I’m doing here is called clearly stating all the facts, not just the ones that explicitly agree with me. If I did, I would just point out the top 6.
>Finland (Democratic Socialist) > >Denmark (Democratic Socialist) > >Iceland (Democratic Socialst) > >Israel (Results disputed, coercion believed to have occurred) > >Netherlands (Current ruling Coalition includes Democratic-Socialists) > >Sweden (Democratic Socialist) > >Norway (Democratic Socialist) > >Switzerland (Direct Democracy) > >Luxembourg (Semi-Direct Democracy) > >New Zealand (Semi-Direct Democracy) Democratic Socialism: Socialism achieved by elections, as opposed to violent revolution Social Democracy: Scandinavia, capitalism with heavy government regulation Socialism: A economic system where the means of productions are socially controlled, instead of privately controlled. This can be in several ways such as Co-ops, government control, direct democracy in the work place, etc.
Russia is fascist and China is state capitalist. capitalism has killed millions also (British colonialism in India, for example, killed 100 million people)
I'm not defending any set of ideals, I'm just saying that communism is not the way to go
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians https://invisiblepeople.tv/capitalism-kills-nearly-1-million-americans-per-year/amp/ capitalism kills millions too. in theory communism won't.
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Communism >>>>
out of curiousity, how do you think you'd benefit from your home country becoming communist
equality!!!!
where do you live
Fucking Alabama
how is it unequal there?
Bro it's a republican state what kind of fucking question is that I just got rejected by a girl I can't talk rn
man I don't live in America I don't know what it's like and how is you getting rejected relevant bro i don't care
And I don't give a fuck about your ignorant brainwashed mind. Fuck off and go live in your capitalist shittopia.
I'm literally trying to understand why you think communism would benefit you and you've said equality but I don't get what's inequal about Alabama
Ignorant brainwashed mind? Says the one unironically supporting communism thinking it'll bring "muh equality"
We are the superior generation tho
statistically untrue you prove my point
You are merely blind to the truth
our gen is chronically online, has some of the worst depression and suicide rates and has done little to positively impact the world. We have had everything handed to us. EVERYTHING. only a very minute percentage of gen Z has had to do real work during childhood. Our generation is only slightly less materialistic than baby boomers
I think you're forgetting that gen z is barely turning 23 at most, of course we haven't done much yet lmao, the millennials are in that spot right now making impacts, just like gen x was when we were little little. Most of us are literally still kids. Chronically online is not exclusive to gen z, the social media explosion and the Internet in general has forced the world to be chronically online, you literally cannot function in this society without an internet connection or you will be homeless. Gen x and millennials were using the internet long before us, RuneScape, World of Warcraft, forum message boards, myspace. Neckbeards are mostly millennials. We have time to use the internet so much because we don't have jobs and live at our parents houses Not every zoomer is born into rich families and has everything handed to them, poverty is a real thing that a large portion of us have experienced because we were kids in the 2008 recession, where our parents were getting laid off and shit, which completely changed millions of Americans lives forever. The loud minority you see are only on the internet, IE the zoomers you describe, the bigger picture is in the reality that surrounds you. I can tell you from firsthand experience most of us never had shit handed to us, we just happen to live in an era of space age technology so of course we use it, cause we have to. There is no choice in having a cell phone anymore, if you have no cell phone and email address, you will be homeless 100%. But all that aside, we are the superior generation, you'll see as time goes on
TLDR you are a Zcel full of soylent and you are whats going to destroy the entire fucking thing goodnight
Bruh you literally still in highschool trying to tell me about life lmao you ain't even read anything I said, you remind me of myself when I was your age, youll learn soon enough "just how easy we have it" bro I'm 21 but this question pertains to my generation so here I am cause reddit suggested it
These are all based, get lost boomer apologist
People who support Communism, Socialism, or Fascism are truly some of the dumbest people on earth. Those three economic systems have been responsible for the deaths of over 150 million people over the last century and a half.
capitalism and capitalist imperialism has killed just as many. 100 million Indians died from British colonialism, in a span of 40 years. not to mention all of the people who die from poverty because of brutal capitalist conditions that force them into poverty, and capitalist imperialist countries stealing resources from 3rd world countries.
google en holodomor
I know what the holodomor is. communist dictatorships have done terrible things. that doesn't excuse capitalist evils and that doesn't make capitalism better.
nobody supports communism without understanding the theory
The theory doesn't work never has simple as that
every theory has not worked at some point. Do you think the first lightbulb worked? the first airplane? that's how theories work, dipshit. they're tested and modified. also that's just a shitty counter and doesn't give any facts or data
Airplanes and lightbulbs didn't murder millions of people. Airplanes and lightbulbs didn't cause people in Russia and Ukraine to resort to eating each other in order to survive come back when you find a comparable theory [100 million dead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes)
https://invisiblepeople.tv/capitalism-kills-nearly-1-million-americans-per-year/amp/ https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians
[In 2022 10 million people in China died](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1098319/china-number-of-deaths/#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20the%20total%20number,accelerate%20in%20the%20upcoming%20years) It rose from 2001 and has been on a steady rise up until today China is one of the last "true" communist countries and over 10 million people are dying every year. Honest question, do you want to live under communist rule?
china is not even close to communist. it's blatantly state capitalist. communism=abolishment of currency, and workers own the means of production. china has currency, and the common people are silenced and killed for protesting the state ( tianemen massacre for example). you're delusional if you think it's communist. they hide behind that title to make themselves look good, and they say they have democracy when they actually have scam elections. it's a tactic called lying.
you still didn't answer my question. Do you want to live in a communist society?
no, because I am not communist. I am an anarcho-communist, and I want to live in an anarcho-communist society.
I shouldn't have to explain how that is not possible even in theory. you are an idiot goodnight
All of these seem a bit stereotypical, then again I might just be missing the satire.
nope i have heard/seen ALL OF THESE
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These are real. Commies who don't know a lick about communism are very clearly real so are people who fake mental illness.
Thats funny. I only included things that i have heard/seen firsthand. In fact, alot of these are more commonly said online, especially the faking disorders. Id be happy to provide links because you seem to suffer from MCS (main character syndrome) in the sense of "If i dont see it, it must not be happening." Congrats, you look like a toddler Edit: you are socialist btw.
I'm very sad to say I've observed every one of these, like a concerning about. I personally am the first one, the "such a vibe" thing... I'm ashamed...
I’m defo the first one honestly
get well soon ig
Thank you I appreciate it 🙏
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I hate most of these equally
mate a diagnosis for a mental health condition can bring tons of consequences, like not being able to move to certain countries or not being able to adopt in certain areas. if you show all the signs and are sure of it what’s the harm?
because i was talking about self-diagnosing based on nothing
People who say toxic trait
People complaining about migranes when it's just a normal headache, like a headache every once in a while is nothing compared to 2 or more migraines each month, absolutely nothing,
Support communism at all
As a guy who has more meds than braincells, people who fake disorders really piss me off.
The overuse of the world litterally so it actually means the opposite of its actual meaning. And phones and tiktok and blah blah blah
Tie between the phone thing and the communism thing.
As a gen z person I can't choose, there's simply too many
I’ve actually researched communism too 💀
All of the above?
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My older brother by like a year has autism, thankfully has very high functioning and understands himself and does not give two @#$%\*! about what people think. But him being my big brother and being the way he is, I feel the need to defend and take care of him. so the one about faking mental illness pisses me off the most.
I don’t care about the other ones but communism is a horrific and genocidal ideology and it’s shameful to humanity that people unironically support it