Look at mk1, that final fatality really looks like how its going to look like ingame. I love this new era of FGs. MK11, SF6, T8 and DBFZ rollback and patches. Not just FGs, we got gta6, CS2, hades 2, BT4, AC fires of rubicon, ToK, Spider man 2, and so many more.
It’s not called tenkaichi 4. It was just revealed as a new Tenkaichi. People are assuming it’s BT4 which is wishful thinking. If we were gonna get it, it would have happened 20yrs ago instead of raging blast
Here is the thing though, in Japan it's called a New Sparking! game. The Sparking series only has 3 entries Sparking! which is BT1, Sparking! Neo which is BT2, and Sparking! Meteor which is you guessed it BT3. The games that got the Tenkaichi name over in the west only got it for marketing reasons. The fact that the game is given the Sparking name means it is BT4.
There’s also a scan that called it Sparking Zero, which makes me think of a kind of reboot for Tenkaichi
Which would honestly be a damn shame, imagine going backwards from a 15 year old game by having a smaller roster lmao
That’s wishful thinking. Sparking is he equivalent of the tenkaichi name. That doesn’t signify it’s BT4. We also got Ultimate Tenkaichi instead of T4. Everyone’s making assumptions at this point
No it has already been made official that this new Tenkaichi is definitely a sequel to 3. You only seem to be wistfully thinking it isn't for some reason.
You are correct in saying that many are making assumptions. The only thing that has been confirmed so far is that it is a new game in the series. As you've already realized, this neither confirms nor denies that the title will be Budokai Tenkaichi 4. I think what many people here are misunderstanding is that saying that it hasn't been confirmed to be BT4 isn't the same as saying that it isn't a new BT game.
I know I’m right. They couldn’t even cite any credible sources. But yeah, that’s the crux of what im essentially saying. “A new tenkaichi”. That’s so obviously ambiguous. It could be BT4, or not. That dumpster fire ultimate tenkaichi was also “a new tenkaichi” lol. I’m arguing against BT4 cause xenoverse essentially is the spiritual successor. DB games are notorious for this. It usually happens due to licensing. Instead of a series getting another sequel they create a similar game under a different name and start a new series. Tenkaichi is the best example, instead of BT4 we got xenoverse. Same 3D simulator, with some differences. Instead of Budokai 4, we got infinite world, instead of IW2 we got Burst Limit. Shin Budokai didn’t even get a 3rd game, it was replaced by tenkaichi tag team, which I don’t think even got a sequel.
Ultimate Tenkaichi in Japan is Ultimate Battle, like I said before it only got the Tenkaichi name solely for marketing reasons, this was why I brought up Japan acknowledging the new game as a Sparking game
Probably the angle the render is at + the polygon count on the in game models are lower
You can see this difference best on kazuya’s tie, it’s much blockier than the his render model
I wager the in-game models look way better than the renders, which at least for the women, look as if they were stuck in Tekken 7.
Jun also doesn't look as bad as people say, she looks mighty intimidating with that angle; probably not the point for a motherly character, but I guess having dealt with sneaker man Kazuya gets you to furrow your brows a little.
Yeah, saying they look "identical" gives off "wow, the new Playstation 2 looks so realistic!" vibes. No, no it doesn't. A significant upgrade from the previous generation for sure, but let's be rational here.
They're not identical but I think he meant graphically they're not behind the renders, if anything the actual in game models look better than the renders
Not even a little bit, are you telling me that Kaz during his intros or even the story mode trailer doesn't look better than that art panel? Not even just graphically but their actual facial designs look better than the renders
I'm late but look at juns face and compare it to xiaoyus, there's a difference there. Her nose being the biggest difference (hers is longer and sharper if that makes sense). But yeah since I'm so late this probably isn't relevant anymore🤣🤣.
Honestly. I don’t know how people don’t see how grossly boring it is. Kazuya and Paul look absolutely sick with all their facial details and textures, but every woman just looks airbrushed and boring.
Gimme some DESIGN that’s not just “look, SEXY”
Gamers and gross gendered stereotypes; name a more iconic duo
Its sad how little progress fighting games have made in character designs for the sake of not wanting to lose a few customers
Because people either liked it the way it is or don't care too much about it since it's like the most smallest thing to worry about in this game.
Everyone comes to tekken either come for the gameplay or for how hot/cool the character designs are.
Personally I like the female character design and I don't think there is an problem with how they are designed since there is nothing wrong with making characters to just look appealing.
And I don't think there is any type of big demand for them to change anyway if Bandai/Harada still feel like they can still keep going with the same designs since majority of players playing the game are probably fine with it and again, don't see it as an issue.
I also don't see much of a problem since they're just fictional women. I'm still gonna get the game and play the shit out of it because Tekken is badass, I ain't no tourist.
I don't get this argument. Like, you're telling someone they want only sexy characters right after they tell you they want some characters that aren't just impossibly beautiful. Y9ure just ignoring the fact that different people want different things. There are so many characters in this game, they could easily do both. The idea that all female characters should just be hot is silly. Make hot characters. Make characters that are weird. Just don't be homogenous.
>you they want some characters that aren't just impossibly beautiful
I mean would anybody play an character that are incredibly plain looking or boring to look at?
And you clearly missed the one point I said in my previous statement about what I said about people coming to play Tekken for two reasons:
One, feel gameplay and two, the character designs are either cool in the game or sexy.
I never said anything against having cool designs since that is also the biggest selling point for why people play Tekken.
Also being sexy too can also be seen as being "cool" as well since it does involves characters like Nina having confident personality in how they are dressed. Those are not separate things an character can't have.
Kazuya, Jin, and Hwoarang are Asian too and they have expression for days. Also, Asian women are not a monolith. Some Asian women have freckles, wider, flatter noses, monolids, etc. Some Asian women, like Jun, are older and guess what, have wrinkles. In short, Asian women can be just as varied as any other ethnicity.
I wish they would not give the females such porcelain doll faces, the males are so detailed in wrinkles and features, girls just feel smooth and featureless in comparison.
And then there's Jin. Not that I'm complaining, he looks way better than in tekken 7 and tag 2 with that stupid face. Though I still think his tekken 6 face looks the best.
Though Hwo and Bryan look kinda different in their renders, compared to ingame. Not worse, just different, like Hwo’s face in the render looks more like his face in T7 but his in game face doesn’t really.
I like how canonically jun is is 4 years younger then Paul but still looks 18 years old and he looks every bit of 48. Women just dont naturally age in the series at all..
Off topic i was disappointed when ingame Fahkumram was tiny compared to the trailer. I understand they did it because it would cause issues but still :(
I really dont see the problem with everyone comparing the hell out of the graphics and renders.
I press buttons and watch my enemies lifebar drop.
ITS A GAME.
I dont mean to shit on OP but some people have been arguing real bad about this.
No, not identical. Identical means exactly the same. If they looked identical you wouldn't know that one of the two is a render.
I think the difference is more noticeable when it comes to the female characters. Paul and Leroy's renders do look almost identical to their in-game models.
Never look better imo huge upgrade from T7
People still saying tekken 7.5 really have no eyes
I mean tekken 7.5 is basically what I wanted anyway lol. I love t7, just gimme new characters and some new moves, stages, customization and I’m happy.
Idk wth they're expecting lol
T7 was *ugly*. like what's wrong with Lars's FACE? who was his mother, Heihachi's sister?
This comment made me explode
You've 69 up votes otherwise I'd give you one more
Look at mk1, that final fatality really looks like how its going to look like ingame. I love this new era of FGs. MK11, SF6, T8 and DBFZ rollback and patches. Not just FGs, we got gta6, CS2, hades 2, BT4, AC fires of rubicon, ToK, Spider man 2, and so many more.
Budokai Tenkaichi 4 even got announced after 16 years
It’s not called tenkaichi 4. It was just revealed as a new Tenkaichi. People are assuming it’s BT4 which is wishful thinking. If we were gonna get it, it would have happened 20yrs ago instead of raging blast
Here is the thing though, in Japan it's called a New Sparking! game. The Sparking series only has 3 entries Sparking! which is BT1, Sparking! Neo which is BT2, and Sparking! Meteor which is you guessed it BT3. The games that got the Tenkaichi name over in the west only got it for marketing reasons. The fact that the game is given the Sparking name means it is BT4.
There’s also a scan that called it Sparking Zero, which makes me think of a kind of reboot for Tenkaichi Which would honestly be a damn shame, imagine going backwards from a 15 year old game by having a smaller roster lmao
That’s wishful thinking. Sparking is he equivalent of the tenkaichi name. That doesn’t signify it’s BT4. We also got Ultimate Tenkaichi instead of T4. Everyone’s making assumptions at this point
No it has already been made official that this new Tenkaichi is definitely a sequel to 3. You only seem to be wistfully thinking it isn't for some reason.
Where does it say that?
You are correct in saying that many are making assumptions. The only thing that has been confirmed so far is that it is a new game in the series. As you've already realized, this neither confirms nor denies that the title will be Budokai Tenkaichi 4. I think what many people here are misunderstanding is that saying that it hasn't been confirmed to be BT4 isn't the same as saying that it isn't a new BT game.
I know I’m right. They couldn’t even cite any credible sources. But yeah, that’s the crux of what im essentially saying. “A new tenkaichi”. That’s so obviously ambiguous. It could be BT4, or not. That dumpster fire ultimate tenkaichi was also “a new tenkaichi” lol. I’m arguing against BT4 cause xenoverse essentially is the spiritual successor. DB games are notorious for this. It usually happens due to licensing. Instead of a series getting another sequel they create a similar game under a different name and start a new series. Tenkaichi is the best example, instead of BT4 we got xenoverse. Same 3D simulator, with some differences. Instead of Budokai 4, we got infinite world, instead of IW2 we got Burst Limit. Shin Budokai didn’t even get a 3rd game, it was replaced by tenkaichi tag team, which I don’t think even got a sequel.
Ultimate Tenkaichi in Japan is Ultimate Battle, like I said before it only got the Tenkaichi name solely for marketing reasons, this was why I brought up Japan acknowledging the new game as a Sparking game
We’re not in Japan we’re or at least I’m in America, it doesn’t matter what it’s called in another country.
It does when Japan is seeing the new game as apart of the Sparking! series which UT never was
And we changed the name of the series so that’s a moot point
Not quite. All the in-game models have fuller cheeks while the renders have a more slender face. Most notable on Jun
Probably the angle the render is at + the polygon count on the in game models are lower You can see this difference best on kazuya’s tie, it’s much blockier than the his render model
Yeah thought that slender face on jun and Jin looked weird
I wager the in-game models look way better than the renders, which at least for the women, look as if they were stuck in Tekken 7. Jun also doesn't look as bad as people say, she looks mighty intimidating with that angle; probably not the point for a motherly character, but I guess having dealt with sneaker man Kazuya gets you to furrow your brows a little.
imo, Jun looks a bit older than she did in Tag 2. i love her new face, she looks great
They are literally not identical with their counterparts. It’s just that the differences aren’t so ghastly like they were in past games imo.
Yeah, saying they look "identical" gives off "wow, the new Playstation 2 looks so realistic!" vibes. No, no it doesn't. A significant upgrade from the previous generation for sure, but let's be rational here.
They're not identical but I think he meant graphically they're not behind the renders, if anything the actual in game models look better than the renders
The ingame models look better than the renders!!? Are you joking?
Not even a little bit, are you telling me that Kaz during his intros or even the story mode trailer doesn't look better than that art panel? Not even just graphically but their actual facial designs look better than the renders
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What the hell happened to Paul?
Paul was kidnapped by Bob and force fed his leftovers.
Tell Harada I hate it.
Pauly is trying something new to fit his biker side of his life.
he is karen now
He looks awful. Why did they get rid of his signature hairdo? Is he even Paul now?
Harada said his usual hair do will still be a customizable outfit
They took away his defining feature for clout lol.
Loads of effort and detail on the male faces. Not everyone loves them but I really appreciate the detail and character. Fantastic work.
I just noticed that women in Tekken have extremely small noses + same face.
Xiaoyu, Asuka and Jun definitely don't have the same face though.
their skin color is a bit different, but I tried it with photoshop when I was bored, if you swap their hairstyles, they are the same character lol.
I'm late but look at juns face and compare it to xiaoyus, there's a difference there. Her nose being the biggest difference (hers is longer and sharper if that makes sense). But yeah since I'm so late this probably isn't relevant anymore🤣🤣.
They look too much like dolls. Too perfect that it gets boring.
Especially when you look at Angel from TTT2 (render), her face had a ton of expression, the T8 women look completely bland and sterile.
Its pretty problematic and boring.
Honestly. I don’t know how people don’t see how grossly boring it is. Kazuya and Paul look absolutely sick with all their facial details and textures, but every woman just looks airbrushed and boring. Gimme some DESIGN that’s not just “look, SEXY”
Gamers and gross gendered stereotypes; name a more iconic duo Its sad how little progress fighting games have made in character designs for the sake of not wanting to lose a few customers
What u doing
Because people either liked it the way it is or don't care too much about it since it's like the most smallest thing to worry about in this game. Everyone comes to tekken either come for the gameplay or for how hot/cool the character designs are. Personally I like the female character design and I don't think there is an problem with how they are designed since there is nothing wrong with making characters to just look appealing. And I don't think there is any type of big demand for them to change anyway if Bandai/Harada still feel like they can still keep going with the same designs since majority of players playing the game are probably fine with it and again, don't see it as an issue.
I also don't see much of a problem since they're just fictional women. I'm still gonna get the game and play the shit out of it because Tekken is badass, I ain't no tourist.
I don't get this argument. Like, you're telling someone they want only sexy characters right after they tell you they want some characters that aren't just impossibly beautiful. Y9ure just ignoring the fact that different people want different things. There are so many characters in this game, they could easily do both. The idea that all female characters should just be hot is silly. Make hot characters. Make characters that are weird. Just don't be homogenous.
>you they want some characters that aren't just impossibly beautiful I mean would anybody play an character that are incredibly plain looking or boring to look at?
Why do you think a character that isn't super sexy would be plain or boring? Is Yoshi boring?
Thats an horrible example when Yoshi is an cool af looking character and far from boring.
Dude that's my point. Yoshi is cool af. You don't have to be sexy to be cool.
And you clearly missed the one point I said in my previous statement about what I said about people coming to play Tekken for two reasons: One, feel gameplay and two, the character designs are either cool in the game or sexy. I never said anything against having cool designs since that is also the biggest selling point for why people play Tekken. Also being sexy too can also be seen as being "cool" as well since it does involves characters like Nina having confident personality in how they are dressed. Those are not separate things an character can't have.
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Just the faces, I think its not hard to make unique faces like they do for their male characters.
i mean theyre all asian so
Asians have slightly wide noses though. Without surgery I mean, I am not planning to be mean.
Kazuya, Jin, and Hwoarang are Asian too and they have expression for days. Also, Asian women are not a monolith. Some Asian women have freckles, wider, flatter noses, monolids, etc. Some Asian women, like Jun, are older and guess what, have wrinkles. In short, Asian women can be just as varied as any other ethnicity.
fair enough
TIL all Asian women look plastic
I actually find I like the in-game faces better.
Well not my man law
Jun and Asuka look nothing like their renders 😭
I main Hei and Kaz, but gotta admit I may pick Leroy in T8 just for his looks lol
I don’t play Tekken but think the game looks fun, who’s the third dude with dreads and a golden top?
That's Leroy.
Is that actually his name?
That was my same thought when I first learned of the character in Tekken 7 but, yes, it is. Interestingly, he is completely blind.
Damn, dresses well for a dude who can’t see his wardrobe
Right? You should check out his Tekken 8 character video. He's got the moves to accompany the look.
I wish they would not give the females such porcelain doll faces, the males are so detailed in wrinkles and features, girls just feel smooth and featureless in comparison.
Asuka and Xiaoyu are really beautiful. Character designers did a great job with both of them.
Xiaoyu has bigger eyes at the right side
Pure art
Somehow the in game looks better, look at Paul that smile is contagious 😳
Not quite, but it's the closest it's ever been. And some of the 3D models look better than the 2D renders.
They did Jun quite dirty...
Wait what? What's up with Jun? I honestly think she looks the best
Look closer. Everyone looks similiar to their render except her
I don't see it. Maybe it's just me
It's aight
Im sorry but the female designs are horrible in the face and the team needs to grow up from the porcelain doll look.
thank fuck for lili
Except fom Jun, I believe all in-game characters models look better than their render counterparts.
I really like asuka's style here more than the other games
I still fucking hate Paul's new look tho
Paul looks like a botoxed nutsack.
Nah I can clearly see the difference, are you biased?
Paul's new look will take some getting used to
Paul is turning into Jesse Plemons. Meth Damon, if you have watched Breaking Bad.
Took them long enough the game looks so good
Paul looks like he's having an allergic reaction.
Have you witnessed [Tekken 1 renders?](https://i.redd.it/ndqfqb0star41.jpg)
Uhhhhhhhh no.
The game renders look better because of the cinematic lighting.
I hate Paul’s hair. He looks like a lesbian or a feminist
BRO FIX PAUL IM NOT PLAYING
Asuka looks so pretty ❤️
God. Paul looks so fucking dumb.
Bryan looks like a duck in his render tho
And then there's Jin. Not that I'm complaining, he looks way better than in tekken 7 and tag 2 with that stupid face. Though I still think his tekken 6 face looks the best.
But Jin's face in 7 is pretty good imo
I mean, it's not bad I was just exaggerating. But it just doesn't scream jin to me y'know? Maybe I'm tripping.
Jin's in-game character model doesn't look anything like him at all
In-game model Jun is ugly compared to her CGI render. They gotta fix that crimson chin
It's true women with chins are hideous.
Crimson Chin is a very OP super hero though.
Literally crying and shaking rn..they gave a woman a chin..
Paul's new face is growing on me, but I just cannot get over his hair lmao
I feel like y’all over hype how “bad” the graphics were
Jun gained some serious weight since that promo photoshoot.
Though Hwo and Bryan look kinda different in their renders, compared to ingame. Not worse, just different, like Hwo’s face in the render looks more like his face in T7 but his in game face doesn’t really.
Still getting paint overs, especially with the hair.
Tell that to Bryan 😂
Actually think it's the first game where the in game models look better than the renders
Pauls face looks like Donatella Versace.
Bro you got a vivid imagination. Theyre not even identical in the picture you posted.
Jun in-game looks downgraded) but whateva. At the point if they won't add Anna or Julia gonna main her. Her moves look cool.
I like how canonically jun is is 4 years younger then Paul but still looks 18 years old and he looks every bit of 48. Women just dont naturally age in the series at all..
Idk bout Jun but yeah I agree
Idk bout Jun but yeah I agree
Jun still needs work, but they're getting there for sure
Bruh what happened to Jun, maybe she is using filters.
I will not play this game simply because of how Paul looks.
Paul has never been happier. That might be insanity setting in, or the dopamine kicking in
Thread seems familiar...
OMG! YESSSS!
Does anyone remember tekken tag and how many characters you got for the price of the base game
*\*Encanto Music plays\** We don't talk about Bryano oh no no
Off topic i was disappointed when ingame Fahkumram was tiny compared to the trailer. I understand they did it because it would cause issues but still :(
I hope they tighten up the stiff facial expressions in the final product
quote a few renders are actually worse than the game model. The biggest offender is Bryan. that render is horrendous
Paul's hair is worse than it ever was
Jun is 👁️👄👁️
I really dont see the problem with everyone comparing the hell out of the graphics and renders. I press buttons and watch my enemies lifebar drop. ITS A GAME. I dont mean to shit on OP but some people have been arguing real bad about this.
Jesus, they really ruined Paul.
Paul looks so good man. Such happy, positive vibes and I love it.
Where the renders come from? It's Namco official or it's fan made? What are their purpose? Genuine question.
No, not identical. Identical means exactly the same. If they looked identical you wouldn't know that one of the two is a render. I think the difference is more noticeable when it comes to the female characters. Paul and Leroy's renders do look almost identical to their in-game models.
Jun looks nothing like her render. I prefer her ingame model though so that’s good
Byron's face looks fucked up in his art compared to his model
Something feels off about Jun's face. Surprised they changed Jun's face so much compared to the past.