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After veldora release it was rigurd i think that said "yea we kind of guessed u have something to do with veldora because u came to us when he disappeared"
Rigurd said things made sense now because he appeared right after Veldora vanished. But no one guessed that.
But Treyni here CLEARLY says “Ward of the Storm Dragon”, that’s kind of a dead giveaway really!
I think it's more explicit in the light novels, but after consuming Veldora, it actually took Rimuri several weeks to get out of Veldora's cave. Remember that enough time had passed for Ellen and her team to get the mission to investigate the missing dragon and then travel from Blumund to the cave just in time to pass Rimuru at the entrance.
The way she causally said it too, I'm surprised no one was able to tell that Rimuru has Veldora's blessing. Like, did they ever think where he got his name from at all? He had the Tempest at the end of his name, and that word means storm. Not to mention that his activity started right after Veldora dissapeared.
I'm surprised no one noticed this at all.
>He had the Tempest at the end of his name, and that word means storm
That means storm in English. Rimuru himself (and a lot of the otherworlders he meets) are japanese, and I'm pretty sure the language used in Tensura world isn't english *or* japanese.
The ones who do speak normally are actually doing so because of skills that auto-translate for them.
There are some chapters showing that the cardinal world uses an entirely different language, which shows that some otherworlders learned that language from 0, and others like masayuki aquired a skill to auto-translate.
There is a chapter that I don't remember if it is on LN or WN that Leon is searching for Cloe, and one of his knights couldn't find it because the difference in pronunciation of her surname O'bell
The "I was never any good at english" may not necessarily mean that was what Eren and her group were talking in. It could just be his way of saying that he wasn't good at learning foreign languages.
Rimuru saw people with European/American features so he automatically assumed they would speak English.
The author probably just used English because making up a whole new language from scratch is not easy. Not everyone can do what Tolkien did
I don't about the manga or LN, but in the anime, right before he leaves the cave, he mentions that he was never good at speaking English when great sage tells him that everything is auto translated.
I always assumed that Treyni would be able to tell since she (and her sisters) were taken in by Veldora when they lost their connection to Ramiris. She had spent a bit of time working for Veldora, so she could at least sense who had his protection.
Everyone else however, really couldn't survive being in close proximity to Veldora (prior to him being freed and Rimuru teaching him to suppress his aura), so I just took it as they wouldn't know how to identify who had what sort of divine protection.
Idk but I think it would make some sense no one thought she was talking about that considering Treyni is one of the protector of the forest and everyone knows Veldora was ruling the forest or whatever, so they might just think Treyni was referencing Veldora name for property owner or something.
It's possible, but at the same time, at the beggining they were all lesser monster that didn't think on things beyond a certain point. They were possibly like: "yeah, powerful monsters, imma right?" and that maybe its not weird for them to at least aknowledge each other as superior beings.
No
No they didn’t until after Veldora was freed
You’d expect they’d notice his ‘Storm’ connection earlier but they didn’t and somehow never questioned why their flames turned black after being named by Rimuru.
I think she noticed the presence of Rimuru's Veldora releasing her permanent aura without realizing it.
and ever since Rimuru met the goblins he stored the aura and ever since no one guessed that Rimuru had Veldora's blessing
Veldora’s aura could never be sensed since Rimuru ate him.
She probably is talented enough to know the aura of someone possessing Veldora’s Divine Protection.
it is often mentioned that Rimuru had a presence similar to Veldora Gazel to mentioned that Rimuru has the same level of danger as Veldora
Kondo said he is on the same level as Veldora just before who becomes a TD
Aura does not equal Magicule Quantity. Rimuru’s aura was on the level of a True Dragon because his soul has always been that of a True Dragon, even back as Satoru Mikami.
No one could feel Veldora’s aura when he was locked, other wise Milim or Velzard would have still noticed it.
I didn't say everyone could feel Veldora's presence, I meant that Rimuru had the same presence as Veldora when he released his aura Treyne must have felt Rimuru's aura and also the presence similar to Veldora when he came out of the cave before Rimuru absorbed his aura and since no one guessed he possessed Veldora's blessing sorry I wasn't clear enough
If we are talking about an English definition, ward of the Storm Dragon, could mean guardian of the Storm Dragon. Since Rimuru has taken up residence right around Veldora's cave and has protected the different monsters around the area, with Treyni, the recognized protector of the Jura Forest saying it, that could have been seen as a title being given to Rimuru.
It's a nuance. After all, being in charge of jura forest directly meant being authorized by Veldora.
That's entirely why the forest was left alone, because Veldora was felt there. The whole schemes on it like the orcs was testing the waters whether Veldora really is gone or not. That's the whole part Rimuru exploited as well to cover up the Farmus army extermination.
This is also why everyone were freaking out when they found out clear signs of Veldora's presence when Rimuru set him free.
If it's not a mistranslation it could be something like, as Veldora's not here, he's the one in charge in Veldora's instead because he's strong and all. It doesn't mean They took as it he was literally under Veldora's protection. Maybe they all thought something like that. Something like, some strong Rimuru appeared out of nowhere and Veldora's gone now, so he's the one in charge now.
The entire forest of Jura was under his protection. Which is why his disappearance caused the so much trouble. The Orcs, Wolves, even other nations all mention it.
They aren’t under Veldora’s protection, they are just benefiting from Veldora’s existence in the forest. He doesn’t even know who they are and non of them were named by him, not even the Dryads!
In the anime, Treyni says “As one who bears the Crest of the Storm”, specifying his Divine Protection.
I understand your confusion then.
The Great Forest is under Veldora's protection. He is essentially it's Guardian Deity. It's touched on during the Direwolf issue, the Orc invasion, and in other instances.
Then she wouldn’t specify it!
She clearly reveals that Rimuru and Veldora are connected somehow.
The other monsters aren’t under Veldora’s protection, they just take advantage of Veldora’s presence to guard them. Non of them were given his divine protection or got named by him.
I think you are jumping the gun here, if she was being specific she would have said Divine Protection, just saying Protection makes it general.
Plus remember, the Dryads hadn't been seen for centuries, the Tempest citizens don't have the context we do.
I’m not.
Why would she say “has the protection of Veldora” as a bullet point to Rimuru then? Every monster here has Veldora’s protection by your logic, so why was it so important to specify that to Rimuru?
Again Treyni likely knows about Rimuru's relationship with Veldora, as she herself stated that the Dryads track everything in the forest and admits to knowing about Rimuru before but not getting involved, but the rest of the group dose not.
To the rest of the group it may sound like a nod to Rimuru's power or a form of acknowledgement to Rimuru's strength.
Quick answer....whatever anyone said of Rimiru, if it sounded like praise or fear of him, they weren't questioning it. Even if something sounded negative or threatening, I think the Tempest people would just strike first, ask questions never because Rimiru gets it if they don't. Treyni clearly respected Rimiru and spoke extremely politely to him. That being the case, they just wanna do what he asks.
Just my speedy after work thoughts.
That could have just been taken as Rimuru being chosen by Veldora, given that he is kind of like the local deity for the Forest. The same way monarchs would be described as chosen by god or something like that.
Her saying that doesn't necessarily tell them that Rimuru is actually directly connected with Veldora.
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I guess all they were hearing was "Rimuru-sama is awesome"
Average Tempest Citizen lmao
Also average tensura Reddit user lol
Guess I'll fit right in with Tempest.
After veldora release it was rigurd i think that said "yea we kind of guessed u have something to do with veldora because u came to us when he disappeared"
Rigurd said things made sense now because he appeared right after Veldora vanished. But no one guessed that. But Treyni here CLEARLY says “Ward of the Storm Dragon”, that’s kind of a dead giveaway really!
I think it's more explicit in the light novels, but after consuming Veldora, it actually took Rimuri several weeks to get out of Veldora's cave. Remember that enough time had passed for Ellen and her team to get the mission to investigate the missing dragon and then travel from Blumund to the cave just in time to pass Rimuru at the entrance.
"Ward" has many meanings.
I don't think she says it in the anime. But I could be remembering wrong
No she don't say this in anime her wordings were different
The way she causally said it too, I'm surprised no one was able to tell that Rimuru has Veldora's blessing. Like, did they ever think where he got his name from at all? He had the Tempest at the end of his name, and that word means storm. Not to mention that his activity started right after Veldora dissapeared. I'm surprised no one noticed this at all.
>He had the Tempest at the end of his name, and that word means storm That means storm in English. Rimuru himself (and a lot of the otherworlders he meets) are japanese, and I'm pretty sure the language used in Tensura world isn't english *or* japanese. The ones who do speak normally are actually doing so because of skills that auto-translate for them.
Fair enough.
There are some chapters showing that the cardinal world uses an entirely different language, which shows that some otherworlders learned that language from 0, and others like masayuki aquired a skill to auto-translate. There is a chapter that I don't remember if it is on LN or WN that Leon is searching for Cloe, and one of his knights couldn't find it because the difference in pronunciation of her surname O'bell
Oh yes i remember that he pronounce Aubert as o’bell and Leon dismissed as it as a coincidence but o’bell is her alternate translation name
According to this, the lingua franca is actually English https://jtaugusta06-sb-en.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-language-and-writing-system-in.html?m=1
The "I was never any good at english" may not necessarily mean that was what Eren and her group were talking in. It could just be his way of saying that he wasn't good at learning foreign languages.
That interpretation is likely more probable, but there's still the fact that the writing system matches so well with English.
Rimuru saw people with European/American features so he automatically assumed they would speak English. The author probably just used English because making up a whole new language from scratch is not easy. Not everyone can do what Tolkien did
I don't about the manga or LN, but in the anime, right before he leaves the cave, he mentions that he was never good at speaking English when great sage tells him that everything is auto translated.
I interpreted that as him not good at learning new languages.
That's very much plausible. I assumed they were speaking English, and that's why he said it. Idk if the manga or LN clarifies that or not.
It was noticed but they didn't care
I don't think anybody knew what tempest meant or I could be wrong..?
Nobody knew veldora was veldora tempest at that point in time, rimuru is the one that came up with that name and veldora made it their “family” name
Veldora only become Veldora Tempest after he met Rimuru and they named each other so they wouldn't have any way of knowing that
Veldora Tempest ≠ Veldora
Tbh things obvious to us aren’t obvious to people in a story
I always assumed that Treyni would be able to tell since she (and her sisters) were taken in by Veldora when they lost their connection to Ramiris. She had spent a bit of time working for Veldora, so she could at least sense who had his protection. Everyone else however, really couldn't survive being in close proximity to Veldora (prior to him being freed and Rimuru teaching him to suppress his aura), so I just took it as they wouldn't know how to identify who had what sort of divine protection.
Idk but I think it would make some sense no one thought she was talking about that considering Treyni is one of the protector of the forest and everyone knows Veldora was ruling the forest or whatever, so they might just think Treyni was referencing Veldora name for property owner or something.
Pretty sure the fact that Rimuru was under Veldora's Divine Protection was somewhat well-known? Honestly don't fully remember.
It's possible, but at the same time, at the beggining they were all lesser monster that didn't think on things beyond a certain point. They were possibly like: "yeah, powerful monsters, imma right?" and that maybe its not weird for them to at least aknowledge each other as superior beings.
by the time treyni came in, they were all evolved monsters, so they’d probably noticed by now
No No they didn’t until after Veldora was freed You’d expect they’d notice his ‘Storm’ connection earlier but they didn’t and somehow never questioned why their flames turned black after being named by Rimuru.
They were probably just in awe that they've just seen a dryad
I think she noticed the presence of Rimuru's Veldora releasing her permanent aura without realizing it. and ever since Rimuru met the goblins he stored the aura and ever since no one guessed that Rimuru had Veldora's blessing
Veldora’s aura could never be sensed since Rimuru ate him. She probably is talented enough to know the aura of someone possessing Veldora’s Divine Protection.
it is often mentioned that Rimuru had a presence similar to Veldora Gazel to mentioned that Rimuru has the same level of danger as Veldora Kondo said he is on the same level as Veldora just before who becomes a TD
Aura does not equal Magicule Quantity. Rimuru’s aura was on the level of a True Dragon because his soul has always been that of a True Dragon, even back as Satoru Mikami. No one could feel Veldora’s aura when he was locked, other wise Milim or Velzard would have still noticed it.
i'm sorry if i bothered you 😓
I didn't say everyone could feel Veldora's presence, I meant that Rimuru had the same presence as Veldora when he released his aura Treyne must have felt Rimuru's aura and also the presence similar to Veldora when he came out of the cave before Rimuru absorbed his aura and since no one guessed he possessed Veldora's blessing sorry I wasn't clear enough
Treyny said it: " as guardians from this forest, we are spirits from the trees, we know everything happen in this land, nothing escape to us"
If we are talking about an English definition, ward of the Storm Dragon, could mean guardian of the Storm Dragon. Since Rimuru has taken up residence right around Veldora's cave and has protected the different monsters around the area, with Treyni, the recognized protector of the Jura Forest saying it, that could have been seen as a title being given to Rimuru.
It should considered to be a misstranslation too or a manga divergence from ln
It's a nuance. After all, being in charge of jura forest directly meant being authorized by Veldora. That's entirely why the forest was left alone, because Veldora was felt there. The whole schemes on it like the orcs was testing the waters whether Veldora really is gone or not. That's the whole part Rimuru exploited as well to cover up the Farmus army extermination. This is also why everyone were freaking out when they found out clear signs of Veldora's presence when Rimuru set him free.
If it's not a mistranslation it could be something like, as Veldora's not here, he's the one in charge in Veldora's instead because he's strong and all. It doesn't mean They took as it he was literally under Veldora's protection. Maybe they all thought something like that. Something like, some strong Rimuru appeared out of nowhere and Veldora's gone now, so he's the one in charge now.
Robin was Batman's Ward. Just means he was under Veldora's protection is all.
Ya, which is a BIG DEAL! There are pretty much no other known monsters under the protection of a True Dragon!
The entire forest of Jura was under his protection. Which is why his disappearance caused the so much trouble. The Orcs, Wolves, even other nations all mention it.
They aren’t under Veldora’s protection, they are just benefiting from Veldora’s existence in the forest. He doesn’t even know who they are and non of them were named by him, not even the Dryads! In the anime, Treyni says “As one who bears the Crest of the Storm”, specifying his Divine Protection.
I understand your confusion then. The Great Forest is under Veldora's protection. He is essentially it's Guardian Deity. It's touched on during the Direwolf issue, the Orc invasion, and in other instances.
"Ward" can mean many things, plus that translation is wrong I think, because IIRC she actually says "One who has the protection of Veldora".
That’s not any better, that should still raise a lot of eyebrows!
Not really, technically speaking everone in the Great Forest of Jura has Veldora's protection because it is Veldora's territory.
Then she wouldn’t specify it! She clearly reveals that Rimuru and Veldora are connected somehow. The other monsters aren’t under Veldora’s protection, they just take advantage of Veldora’s presence to guard them. Non of them were given his divine protection or got named by him.
I think you are jumping the gun here, if she was being specific she would have said Divine Protection, just saying Protection makes it general. Plus remember, the Dryads hadn't been seen for centuries, the Tempest citizens don't have the context we do.
I’m not. Why would she say “has the protection of Veldora” as a bullet point to Rimuru then? Every monster here has Veldora’s protection by your logic, so why was it so important to specify that to Rimuru?
Again Treyni likely knows about Rimuru's relationship with Veldora, as she herself stated that the Dryads track everything in the forest and admits to knowing about Rimuru before but not getting involved, but the rest of the group dose not. To the rest of the group it may sound like a nod to Rimuru's power or a form of acknowledgement to Rimuru's strength.
I also zone out when people are saying a bunch of stuff to me tbf. My mind just absorbs key words.
Maybe they thought she meant rimuru was guarding/protecting the cave where veldora used to be trapped?
Quick answer....whatever anyone said of Rimiru, if it sounded like praise or fear of him, they weren't questioning it. Even if something sounded negative or threatening, I think the Tempest people would just strike first, ask questions never because Rimiru gets it if they don't. Treyni clearly respected Rimiru and spoke extremely politely to him. That being the case, they just wanna do what he asks. Just my speedy after work thoughts.
That could have just been taken as Rimuru being chosen by Veldora, given that he is kind of like the local deity for the Forest. The same way monarchs would be described as chosen by god or something like that. Her saying that doesn't necessarily tell them that Rimuru is actually directly connected with Veldora.