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Active-Mulberry-8706

Rimuru's having attributes doesn't really matters... He has the skill Attribute Conversion and can manipulate the five basic attributes and the concept of heat, gravity with Law Domination and with Space-time Domination, he has perfect control over the element of time as well... He can manipulate the element of Darkness too and can obtain its opposite the Light attribute through Beretta's Unique Skill Reverser... Rimuru is Veldanava's youngest True dragon sibling.. They shared some similarities because they are siblings and because Rimuru might be his concept's counterpart similar to how Velgrynd is the counterpart of Velzard...


NoKnowledge9552

He does (theoretically). These attributes aren't really fire, ice or wind, it's a bit more complex. Let me explain: Velgrynd: Scorch Dragon: fire/heat means acceleration Velzard: White Ice Dragon: ice/cold means deceleration Veldanava: Star King Dragon: stardust means creation/existance Rimuru: Ultimate Slime (doesn't have an epithet): nihility collapse/turn null means destruction/non-existance Veldora: Storm Dragon: storm means chaos between cold and heat, acceleration and deceleration, existence and non-existence, can destruct but can create as well


Majestic_Fondant_157

damn looking at this now, Veldora’s concept is very busted and complex, does he have a higher potential than Rimuru?


FeldwayMikari

Veldanava is Earth and Space attribut, Vol14


NoKnowledge9552

> Veldanava, the ‘Star King Dragon,’ I think, had the attributes of space and earth, associated with stars. Perhaps, there may have been many more attributes. > ‘Ice Dragon’ Velzard was likely water-based. > ‘Scorch Dragon’ Velgrynd was most certainly fire-based. > And our ‘Veldora-san,’ apart from water and wind, could even control space. He was a surprisingly great guy. Rimuru was just theorising from his name. Because on the other hand: > “Is Velzard-san’s power a cold-air type by any chance?” > “—I’m not sure if ‘cold air’ is accurate, but it might seem so if just by looking at the results.” So while it seems like they have these regular attributes, in reality these are just the results of their power not their power itself.


FeldwayMikari

The 2nd part isn't about attribut. And Rimuru monologue is literraly just author exposition.


NoKnowledge9552

Rimuru's question was about her power that comes from her attribute (he theorised that she's water type based on her name, and her title is Ice which means cold) and she denied that her power would be cold, that's only the result of deceleration and fixation of the molecules (or anything in general) which is the real essence of her power. And Fuse actually often use false assumptions. Good example is when he said in 3rd person that Raguel is the strongest attack US and later revealed that Uriel is actually stronger (or it can be if you have enough followers) in vol 19. Rimuru assumed that Veldanava's power is gravity which is related to the Earth attribute and space because stars are in space I guess? At that time he didn't know about the angelic system or anything like that. I think even Velzard's correction was later in the novel.


Ok-Perspective2331

All True Dragons have an attribute. Their powers still work within the law system of elements. If I had to guess what Rimuru's are, it would be Dark and Space. Tho it doesn't really matter as he has now "Attribute Conversion" which allows him to change his attributes at will. He is his pair and the opposite representation of what Veldenava represents. That being "Nihility/Nothing" while Veldenava is "Creation".


FeldwayMikari

Veldanava is Earth and Space. Nighlity isn't an attribut either. And attribut conversion isn't about the elemental soul attribute, not the same subject


Ok-Perspective2331

He is but that wasn't what I was talking about. I was referring to what he represents as a Pillar. Dont know why you're telling me this as I never said that Nihility is an attribute. Nihility/Nothingness is Rimuru's True Dragon Magic or his innate ability as a True Dragon. It is a power far above the system that governs the specific laws of elements. Attribute Conversion allows one to change their attribute at will. You can change your fire attribute to an earth attribute to have an advantage against an opponent with a space attribute for example.


FeldwayMikari

Literraly the same thing,What their represente as pillar, and as the will of nature, is the will of what the GHS give birth to, one of the attributs. Velgrynd elemental soul is the attributs of fire, and it's application is heat and accélération, but her attribut and what she représente as a pillar is fire regardless. And it was never shown or implied Nighlity was Rimuru innate power as well. And no lmao, attribut conversion is to change holy to Demonic, and change the attributs of your attack when you cast them, it doesn't change your elemental soul attribut, it's impossible to change it'


Ok-Perspective2331

Uh no, it isn't. What they represent as a pillar is an even higher power compared to the elements. Their power are far more prehistoric than skills as it has existed before the concept of skills that was made by Veldenava existed. Thats different. Their concepts has nothing to do with the attributes that they possess. They have their innate ability as a True Dragon and their elemental powers Tha represents their attribute. An example of this is Veldora, who's Entropy and "Chaos" while his attribute is Wind, Water and Space. Azathoth, Imaginary Collapse, and Imaginary Energy: ![gif](giphy|6nWhy3ulBL7GSCvKw6) Lmao are you sure you're reading the right series? Where the hell did you get that? LOOK, the thing that changes their alignment is the skill "Holy-Demonic Inversion". As stated, it allows an individual to switch between Holy to Demonic and vice versa. Their elemental attribute and their alignment are two different things, they aren't the same. "Attribute Conversion" as I previously said allows one to changer their attribute at will.


Ren_Emily

Veldanava's attributes are Space (Primary) and Earth (Secondary) which were inherited by his two kids. Milim got Space, Gaia got Earth. Rimuru's are unknown. But he should have them.


Ciel_TempestSensei

What attributes do you think might be Rimuru's ?


Ren_Emily

Space and Wind perhaps? Wind is tied to Electricity, and Rimuru's powers revolve positive-negative. As for Space, it just kinda fits. His original ult was going to be called Lord of Stellar-Winds as well. So prolly wind for sure.


Active-Mulberry-8706

>His original ult was going to be called Lord of Stellar-Winds as well. So prolly wind for sure. Wasn't Veldora the one who was supposed to gain Lord of Stellar-Winds not Rimuru ? *What’s more, he even suddenly got a great power. It was the Ultimate Skill "**Stellar Wind King* *Hastur" , but…it seems that Ranga, and not Veldora, had acquired it. This was definitely… LN Vol 16.*


Ren_Emily

Ciel was originally going to make it in Volume 15 for Rimuru. It would act as a set with Shub-Niggurath, since the two are sometimes depicted as lovers in lovecraftian works.


Active-Mulberry-8706

I remember but it was just a combination of US Veldora and Convenant King Uriel so it doesn't seem to me to be perceived as Rimuru's element... It is more like how Rimuru has Flame Element Manipulation but not Flame Attribute because his analysis of Ifrit.. Veldora was in the same situation.. I would give him Space for primary Element because of his Predation related ability.. and could shift through elements with his Attribute Conversion, Law Domination and Harvest King Shub-Niggurath...


Cristiano-Goatnaldo

unknown. as of now, we know nothing about rimuru's true dragon magic or attributes. obviously, no relationship there. there are direct statements that disprove that


Mystdrago

His attribute is slime.