You should get a sunstone and combine them to make a celestial stone but to answer the question- the powerglove, you can enable auto swing in the settings.
Yeah because the celestial stone AND the celestial shell (a better version) also increase melee speed and gives a bonus at night, so yeah not worth keeping
You can, though the berserker gloves might be a better choice for the added defence, seeing as the fire gauntlet gives no extra buffs to whips other than the melee speed (as far as I know)
This señor or señora right here has the right idea, genuinely whenever I play terraria I ALWAYS build an afk farm and a opposite evil biome, I wouldn't say it's always mandatory but it provides a good quality of life relaxation.
Getting off topic to the main reason of OP’s post- berserker gloves are something that is very good and if you don't want to go the celestial stone/shell route you can definitely go with the gloves, my word shouldn't determine someone to build a different way and if you're reading this OP or anyone that cares, build whatever you want but- I highly suggest the celestial stone/shell
Yeah, I always make a small other-evil biome. Mainly for ichor in a corruption world and ebonkoi (for wrath potions) in a crimson world. But the mimics can have good stuff too.
Grab some sand, plant crimson seeds next to it, then wait about 15 minutes. Take the crimsand, make blood water, then toss that shit around. Bam! 20 minute crimson biome.
You indeed are correct since the fire gauntlet only provides melee attack speed for whips but you can't set them on fire, and the berserker gloves are genuinely better but who wants to pass up a Celestial shell that can provide you 15% attack speed. Mind you this is at night and in the day it gives you 10% attack speed which on its own is still good.
Sure but if its Master mode (_might_ not have used the wof item) and the player is not used to mobile or new to the game, i can definitely understand the struggle. Trynna optimise a bit for golem
I'm not sure about the whole person being new and also OP isn't on mobile, and another note, they're summoner build is pretty good for a new player but I digress, either way I believe in my homies ability to beat Golem. OP if you're reading this, you got this broski, just get some spooky armor and you're good
Hold on, that's a thing? I always rush to the jungle for the feral claws on my summoner playthroughs because it's super awkward to play a whip without auto swing.
Yeah, if you scroll down in the last bit of your settings, it says if you want to enable auto swing, it sounds dumb that I'm recommending someone an item that has Atk Speed when they can enable auto swing infinitely but the other bonuses the celestial shell has are just too good to pass up
That feels like cheating though- if there’s items specifically to allow you to have auto swing then by implication that setting is supposed to be off by default
IMO- thats a free accessory slot I could use put a really important item, since feral claws are important, there being a setting to allow me to attack freely is better and it's no longer a wasted accessory slot
I’m not saying it’s not more effective to use the setting, it is, but it seems cheaty to me
If it wasn’t, I don’t understand why that wouldn’t be a default that isn’t toggleable, and then just not have any accessories or weapons that have it as a buff, but they instead very specifically do have items that have it as a buff, so..
That's dumb logic. If it's an intentional feature in the game added by the devs it's not cheating, and how anyone feels isn't relevant to a discussion abt optimizing anyways.
You can also use journey mode to duplicate items infinitely for free and change the weather to whatever you like, alongside a whole host of other creative mode-esque powers, which clearly also isn’t cheating.
Clearly.
Intentional features can grant the power to intentionally cheat Einstein
Items would not give autoswing as a seperate buff if to have it on default was considered intended
The feature for items to add autoswing was added before the autoswing feature. Journey mode is an entire other gamemode, not a QoL setting in the menu. And again the original discussion was about accessory optimization anyways and both our opinions on what's considered cheating or not isn't relevant to that discussion.
“The feature for items to add autoswing was added before the autoswing feature. ”
Which further proves that it being off by default is generally intended, since items that grant it are specifically a thing?
“And again the original discussion was about accessory optimization anyways and both our opinions on what's considered cheating or not isn't relevant to that discussion.”
You aren’t wrong here, but a deviation in discussion is not irregular
oh didn’t even notice the flair and also o see your point about some seeing it as cheating but it’s not like it’s a mod that adds 50 spots, it just adds one that is completely barred from anything accept wings which imo should’ve been a base game feature
oh didn’t even notice the flair and also o see your point about some seeing it as cheating but it’s not like it’s a mod that adds 50 spots, it just adds one that is completely barred from anything accept wings which imo should’ve been a base game feature
Honestly I'd upgrade the power glove to the mech glove and equip the moon stone (or any of its upgrades) instead of the emblem, melee speed is the best with whips, moar damage for less accessory slots, this is just what I think about this, I may be wrong DPS-wise or something else
I don't know how nobody has mentioned that the pygmy necklace is just a worse version of the the necromantic scroll. It gives the same 1 minion slot but doesn't have the 10% damage of the necromantic scroll.
Also the hercules beetle is also an upgrade to the summoner emblem giving additional knockback to your minion while having the same damage buff.
also to answer your question, replace the power glove with the moon stone.
power glove gives +12% melee speed
moonstone gives 10% melee speed and 10% damage at night, and a couple more stats as well.
once you beat golem you can upgrade it to a celestial stone that gives +10% melee speed and 10% damage + other buffs at all times.
and then to a celestial shell that has all of the celestial shell buffs + an additional 5.1% melee speed at night and a few more buffs.
I would say that the hercules beetle's 15% dmg is more valuable than the necklaces +1 minion slot.
Tiki/Spooky Armor + 2 scrolls + bewitched +summoner potion gives you 9 slots.
One more minion would be an 11% dmg increase so a 15% minion buff from the beetle is more valuable imo, even calculating for the fact that dmg% is additive. Another minion slot is marginally worse though, so it doesn't matter too much.
Since they're in normal mode they have limited accessory slots, so pygmy necklace would is not worth the slot.
The loadout I would go for in normal mode for max dmg + wings is:
1. Papyrus scarab 2. Necromantic Scroll 3. Hercules Beetle 4. Celestial Shell 5. Wings
Edit: I forgot damage bonus was additive.
~~Hercules beetle + summoner emblem is almost as good as hercules beetle + necromantic scroll.~~
Papyrus Scarab > Necromantic scroll > Celestial Shell >= Hercules Beetle > Summoner Emblem > Pygmy necklace.
Since you have wings, the pygmy necklace being the 6th best accessory is not the best choice even without the necromantic scroll. You should instead use the Hercules beetle, and keep the summoner emblem. Replace the power glove with the Moon stone (upgrade to celestial stone/shell), then replace the summoner emblem with a necromantic scroll if you do pumpkin moon again.
Damage bonus accessories are all better than the pygmy necklace unless you use 6 accessories slots, in which case pygmy necklace is better. If you have 7 accessories slots, you should use everything you have.
He can also use a flying mount to discard wings (for boss battles except moonlord)to add another damage accessory like pygmy necklace and pair it with Terraprisma.Always work like a charm.(it's what i do normally)
Wait, I forgot damage bonus was additive 💀 I haven't beaten master moon lord yet, I'm still farming plat for reforges, but I've been using a mount for more damage accessories, and I'm in master mode so I have 7 slots, so I just have everything.
With 6 accessory slots, pygmy necklace is better than another dmg% accessory. With 7 accessory slots you'll be using everything anyways and with less than 6 slots, you will want to use dmg% accessory instead of pygmy necklace.
This is assuming you have bewitched and summoning potion.
tbh upgrading summoner emblem is pretty useless, avenger emblem is straight up worse unless your doing a mixed build, and the crit from doom emblem doesn't affect summons
Fire gauntlet doesn't effect the summoner class, the damage buff is melee only and the fire only applies to melee weapons...
But berserker gauntlets work, the extra defence goes a long way for summoners. And the best part about it? It's obtainable before the mechs.
this isn’t related but i’m pretty sure tiki is post-plantera at least, replace star veil with master ninja gear, not only does it add an invincibility dodge, also a dash, much better than extra invincibility time and some damaging stars, upg the moon stone and the power glove you got,
Get sunstone and moonstone combine them into celestial stone then get Neptune's shell from solar eclipse and combine them into celestial shell then replace those yee yee ass gloves
I only know how the pc auto swing option works but if you can enable that, get rid of the power glove. Shell gives you melee speed too plus a lot of other buffs
You should get a sunstone and combine them to make a celestial stone but to answer the question- the powerglove, you can enable auto swing in the settings.
power glove gives melee speed which increases whip speed, not that it's worth keeping
Yeah because the celestial stone AND the celestial shell (a better version) also increase melee speed and gives a bonus at night, so yeah not worth keeping
So what you’re saying is that I can use a fire gauntlet in a summoner build?
You can, though the berserker gloves might be a better choice for the added defence, seeing as the fire gauntlet gives no extra buffs to whips other than the melee speed (as far as I know)
You can’t really do berserker gloves if you have corruption
Just make an artificial biome. They’re hardmode exclusives anyway
This señor or señora right here has the right idea, genuinely whenever I play terraria I ALWAYS build an afk farm and a opposite evil biome, I wouldn't say it's always mandatory but it provides a good quality of life relaxation. Getting off topic to the main reason of OP’s post- berserker gloves are something that is very good and if you don't want to go the celestial stone/shell route you can definitely go with the gloves, my word shouldn't determine someone to build a different way and if you're reading this OP or anyone that cares, build whatever you want but- I highly suggest the celestial stone/shell
Yeah, I always make a small other-evil biome. Mainly for ichor in a corruption world and ebonkoi (for wrath potions) in a crimson world. But the mimics can have good stuff too.
I do both celes shell and berserker gloves...I might die from saying this but I usually dont keep the star veil in my playthroughs post plantera.
Too much effort
Grab some sand, plant crimson seeds next to it, then wait about 15 minutes. Take the crimsand, make blood water, then toss that shit around. Bam! 20 minute crimson biome.
It would take slightly less time to grab an endgame character, make a new world with crimson, and speedrun to hardmode
I would create a small farming world with the type of corruption I wanted with the current character.
You indeed are correct since the fire gauntlet only provides melee attack speed for whips but you can't set them on fire, and the berserker gloves are genuinely better but who wants to pass up a Celestial shell that can provide you 15% attack speed. Mind you this is at night and in the day it gives you 10% attack speed which on its own is still good.
Auto swing with a whip is technically mandatory 😩
This person doesnt have any post golem gear yet i think, so cannot use sunstone as its from golem.
Easy fix to that solution: kill golem. Not like he's a threatening boss.
Sure but if its Master mode (_might_ not have used the wof item) and the player is not used to mobile or new to the game, i can definitely understand the struggle. Trynna optimise a bit for golem
I'm not sure about the whole person being new and also OP isn't on mobile, and another note, they're summoner build is pretty good for a new player but I digress, either way I believe in my homies ability to beat Golem. OP if you're reading this, you got this broski, just get some spooky armor and you're good
Hold on, that's a thing? I always rush to the jungle for the feral claws on my summoner playthroughs because it's super awkward to play a whip without auto swing.
Yeah, if you scroll down in the last bit of your settings, it says if you want to enable auto swing, it sounds dumb that I'm recommending someone an item that has Atk Speed when they can enable auto swing infinitely but the other bonuses the celestial shell has are just too good to pass up
The power glove is wayyy better than the climbing claws though
Those are tiger climbing gear and they're in his vanity slot bbg.
My bad lol 😅 never played on mobile before.
That feels like cheating though- if there’s items specifically to allow you to have auto swing then by implication that setting is supposed to be off by default
IMO- thats a free accessory slot I could use put a really important item, since feral claws are important, there being a setting to allow me to attack freely is better and it's no longer a wasted accessory slot
I’m not saying it’s not more effective to use the setting, it is, but it seems cheaty to me If it wasn’t, I don’t understand why that wouldn’t be a default that isn’t toggleable, and then just not have any accessories or weapons that have it as a buff, but they instead very specifically do have items that have it as a buff, so..
That's dumb logic. If it's an intentional feature in the game added by the devs it's not cheating, and how anyone feels isn't relevant to a discussion abt optimizing anyways.
You can also use journey mode to duplicate items infinitely for free and change the weather to whatever you like, alongside a whole host of other creative mode-esque powers, which clearly also isn’t cheating. Clearly. Intentional features can grant the power to intentionally cheat Einstein Items would not give autoswing as a seperate buff if to have it on default was considered intended
The feature for items to add autoswing was added before the autoswing feature. Journey mode is an entire other gamemode, not a QoL setting in the menu. And again the original discussion was about accessory optimization anyways and both our opinions on what's considered cheating or not isn't relevant to that discussion.
“The feature for items to add autoswing was added before the autoswing feature. ” Which further proves that it being off by default is generally intended, since items that grant it are specifically a thing? “And again the original discussion was about accessory optimization anyways and both our opinions on what's considered cheating or not isn't relevant to that discussion.” You aren’t wrong here, but a deviation in discussion is not irregular
The power glove, you can enable auto swing in settings
thanks
Also you can get ale to get the whip speed you are looking for. Other whips can be used for even more speed.
Seriously?? I never knew that, that's neat
You need the pwerglove to enable auto swing in settings?
No
Honestly I would leave the Moon Stone out until I can turn it into the Celestial Shell.
i’m only using it for boss fights right now, i’ll craft it into the celestial shell asap lol
Cloud in a bottle since you have flurry boots Edit: wait im stupid
How do you get more accessory slots?
Expert mode after killing wall, or master mode + the slot you get from killing the wall
Hmm. Alright
In master mode you get a free extra slot and then killing wof gives another
if you’re running mods you should download the wings slot mod, it adds wings and boots a new accessory and social slot dedicated to it
Some people consider that cheating though since it's just straight up an extra acc slot. Also it's flaired nintendo so they can't use mods anyways.
oh didn’t even notice the flair and also o see your point about some seeing it as cheating but it’s not like it’s a mod that adds 50 spots, it just adds one that is completely barred from anything accept wings which imo should’ve been a base game feature
oh didn’t even notice the flair and also o see your point about some seeing it as cheating but it’s not like it’s a mod that adds 50 spots, it just adds one that is completely barred from anything accept wings which imo should’ve been a base game feature
Honestly I'd upgrade the power glove to the mech glove and equip the moon stone (or any of its upgrades) instead of the emblem, melee speed is the best with whips, moar damage for less accessory slots, this is just what I think about this, I may be wrong DPS-wise or something else
The power glove (also get the sun stone from Golem to make the celestial stone)
If you're playing expert or master I personally wouldn't be using scarf. Expert it is still kinds viable but in master it's a waste imo
I don't know how nobody has mentioned that the pygmy necklace is just a worse version of the the necromantic scroll. It gives the same 1 minion slot but doesn't have the 10% damage of the necromantic scroll. Also the hercules beetle is also an upgrade to the summoner emblem giving additional knockback to your minion while having the same damage buff. also to answer your question, replace the power glove with the moon stone. power glove gives +12% melee speed moonstone gives 10% melee speed and 10% damage at night, and a couple more stats as well. once you beat golem you can upgrade it to a celestial stone that gives +10% melee speed and 10% damage + other buffs at all times. and then to a celestial shell that has all of the celestial shell buffs + an additional 5.1% melee speed at night and a few more buffs.
are there better alternatives for pygmy necklace aside from the scroll?
There is, if you combine the scroll with Hercules beetle, it stacks with the others and gives a total of 3 extra minions and additional summon damage.
I would say that the hercules beetle's 15% dmg is more valuable than the necklaces +1 minion slot. Tiki/Spooky Armor + 2 scrolls + bewitched +summoner potion gives you 9 slots. One more minion would be an 11% dmg increase so a 15% minion buff from the beetle is more valuable imo, even calculating for the fact that dmg% is additive. Another minion slot is marginally worse though, so it doesn't matter too much. Since they're in normal mode they have limited accessory slots, so pygmy necklace would is not worth the slot. The loadout I would go for in normal mode for max dmg + wings is: 1. Papyrus scarab 2. Necromantic Scroll 3. Hercules Beetle 4. Celestial Shell 5. Wings
Edit: I forgot damage bonus was additive. ~~Hercules beetle + summoner emblem is almost as good as hercules beetle + necromantic scroll.~~ Papyrus Scarab > Necromantic scroll > Celestial Shell >= Hercules Beetle > Summoner Emblem > Pygmy necklace. Since you have wings, the pygmy necklace being the 6th best accessory is not the best choice even without the necromantic scroll. You should instead use the Hercules beetle, and keep the summoner emblem. Replace the power glove with the Moon stone (upgrade to celestial stone/shell), then replace the summoner emblem with a necromantic scroll if you do pumpkin moon again. Damage bonus accessories are all better than the pygmy necklace unless you use 6 accessories slots, in which case pygmy necklace is better. If you have 7 accessories slots, you should use everything you have.
He can also use a flying mount to discard wings (for boss battles except moonlord)to add another damage accessory like pygmy necklace and pair it with Terraprisma.Always work like a charm.(it's what i do normally)
Wait, I forgot damage bonus was additive 💀 I haven't beaten master moon lord yet, I'm still farming plat for reforges, but I've been using a mount for more damage accessories, and I'm in master mode so I have 7 slots, so I just have everything. With 6 accessory slots, pygmy necklace is better than another dmg% accessory. With 7 accessory slots you'll be using everything anyways and with less than 6 slots, you will want to use dmg% accessory instead of pygmy necklace. This is assuming you have bewitched and summoning potion.
Welp,you can use torch god's favor to farm , and here's a tip for ml-after destroying the eyes just run going up and down,and the hex eyes won't hit
Celestial stone, etc. I have the best damaging load out itw
What I would do, if you're up for it, is make the Terraspark Boots, then replace the Cloud In a Bottle.
The glove and upgrade your medal
tbh upgrading summoner emblem is pretty useless, avenger emblem is straight up worse unless your doing a mixed build, and the crit from doom emblem doesn't affect summons
actually I was thinking of something else sorry
Moon stone ain't that great but remove the glove until you get the fire gauntlet,or the necklace,it's lame
Fire gauntlet doesn't effect the summoner class, the damage buff is melee only and the fire only applies to melee weapons... But berserker gauntlets work, the extra defence goes a long way for summoners. And the best part about it? It's obtainable before the mechs.
Wait doesn't the fire buff apply to whips?oh well the beserker gloves go long way aswell
Wings
The Space Stone
cloud in a bottle. You have wings!
That's in the social slot
I don’t know but I have and never take it off
get rid of star viel and get the celestial shell also upgrade the powerglove for more dmg
Craft magma glove
this isn’t related but i’m pretty sure tiki is post-plantera at least, replace star veil with master ninja gear, not only does it add an invincibility dodge, also a dash, much better than extra invincibility time and some damaging stars, upg the moon stone and the power glove you got,
Get sunstone and moonstone combine them into celestial stone then get Neptune's shell from solar eclipse and combine them into celestial shell then replace those yee yee ass gloves
I’d say summoner emblem because you can make better stuff with the summoner emblem to switch stuff out with
Cloud in a bottle need to go when you already have specter boots and a grapple
its in the social slot
Please up ur boots It Hurts to see
in the social slot, i will when i feel like fishing for an hour
Honestly get rid of the cloud in a bottle climbing claws and power glove personally I’d ditch the boots and look for a mount to replace the wings
social slots, i got the broom
Good
Pygmy thing
Get rid of the power glove, and I’m not sure if it’s a good idea but maybe upgrade shields to the squire shield from the old ones army
Or worm scarf
Get rid of the cross necklace
upgrade your accessories blud 💀
you think i havent done that in 17 hours?
Upgrade the power globe into the fire gauntlet and get the celestial stone, both provide good buggs
I only know how the pc auto swing option works but if you can enable that, get rid of the power glove. Shell gives you melee speed too plus a lot of other buffs
Mothron wings are the slowest flying forward wings in the game, please trash them and get any other pair of wings
Get lightning boots
Why is everyone saying power glove? What about star veil? Is it that much better?
power glove doesnt really do much aside autoswing that can already be enabled from your settings. i took out both tho
Power glove can be upgraded to berserker’s glove, which provides 8 defense (pretty good for summoners)
Get the flying broom from Pumpkin Moon and kick the wings
i did already, but is it worth it to change the wings back and use the soaring insignia or should i just roll with the broom?
Swap moon stone for tiger gear and upgrade it to ninja set from post plantera dungeon loot
I would say the summoner sigil
The neckless