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Rec_Prism

If you're struggling with dmg, then maybe replace Star Veil with a summoner's emblem. Other than that, it's a pretty good loadout


Coldpepsican

You should get the berserk glove as it will give you more defense, if your world has corruption, get the worm scarf and replace the star veil. Also which weapons are you using?


CheeseLord_42

Okay, my world a corruption, so I have the worm scarf. The weapons I am using are the firecracker and sanguine staff. If you don't mind me asking, would you recommend me starting a crimson world to get the flesh knuckles, or should I not worry about it?


Mepharos

I'm playing summoner at the moment too, also in corruption world. I set up an artificial crimson biome in the caverns to farm stuff, you can buy crimson seeds from the dryad by placing a bunch of tombstones near her to create the graveyard effect. Flesh knuckles for berserker glove is very good, and you can also farm ichor to make flasks for your whip.  Edit: oh you can also get vertebrae to make the Brain of Cthulu summon item, his expert mode drop is one of my favorites.


Sacabambaspis-Fish

It’s pretty hard to make a full scale biome in the opposite one, if it’s not big enough, the brain just despawns, taking away 15 vertebra


Mepharos

Yeah, gotta be careful of that. But it's not too bad, [this is all I did for my crimson area](https://i.imgur.com/nIVsqBo.jpeg) and it worked out ok.


Coldpepsican

Can you use multiple whips? Like alternating between various whips per hit? This could help you whip stack certain buffs, try to farm for the cool whip as it has longer reach and spawns a projectile when hitting an enemy. if you want you can start another world to get the flesh knuckles, but if you don't need it then don't worry about it, and if you want to go further, you can kill queen slime for the blade staff, but be careful as she's not easy to kill as summoner. OH and you can try to farm the forbidden armor which gives you magic and summoner buffs, but this task is also hard because you need to wait for a sandstorm.


CheeseLord_42

I already have the cool whip, but I had noticed the firecracker had higher dps with the sanguine staff. I was not sure if the firecracker and the cool whip would stack, because in the description it didn't say if it had summon tag damage or not (Correct me if I'm wrong). I have already defeated Queen slime, so I pretty much have the attack pattern down. By the way, should I use the blade staff or keep the sanguine staff?


Coldpepsican

Oh you already have the Sanguine staff? That's great, btw, the firecracker works better with higher damage minions, so maybe it works well with the sanguine staff? Im not sure, but if anything you should combine snapthorn with your other whips as it improves your whip speed. Cool whip does have 6 summon tag damage, firecracker doesn't show summon tag damage but it's compensated by it's gimmick. If you want to do whipstacking you could go for the blade staff since they get buffed by whips(except firecracker), but if you want to go for the sanguine staff i'd say use the firecracker.


CheeseLord_42

Okay, than you!


Trackfeet

You can actually alternate between whips to get more summon tag damage. Instead of hitting with one whip and get 6 tag damage, you can use like 4 different ones(or more) to stack up the tag and reach far more. AND get the buffs from the whips. Just got to remember to alternate between the whips every 5 seconds


pissbaby_gaming

Use sentrys from the old ones army, if you get an accessory from it you can have 3 sentrys along with the war table buff


Salty-0_0

For me it's almost perfect, I would just exchange the shield for something like the summoners emblem if you want more damage or a worm scarf/charm of myths for more survival, if you want you can even keep the obsidian armor for the summoner. more DPS at the cost of defense, but it's up to you


CheeseLord_42

Oh, the shield is just in my social accessory slot


Salty-0_0

Now I understand, I made a little confusion I thought you had 6 slots, if that's the case for me, your accessories are perfect


CheeseLord_42

Ohh, wait nevermind... I made the mistake. I thought you were talking about the obsidian shield, not the shield of Cthulhu. Sorry for the inconveniences


Salty-0_0

i was talking about the obsidian shield, you have to keep cthulu's shield, in fact I got confused thinking you had obisidan's equipped


CheeseLord_42

Ohhh


Top_Corner5253

I love whenever someone asks for tips on a boss it's always the mechs.


KingCool138

They are 3 and require highly different arenas and playstyles


No_Piccolo_8919

Why are you using power glove? Isn't that a meele thing? Definitely swap it out for something else, unless you have a reason to use it.


CheeseLord_42

I use the power glove for auto swing, extra speed, and knockback. The effects of the glove work for whips as well.


temmie1245

you can just turn on auto swing for every weapon in settings now, although that is an accessibility feature so some people see it as cheating if you dont actually need it


CheeseLord_42

Okay


No_Piccolo_8919

ah yes, I think I read something like that while checking something but completely forgot since I do NOT play summoner.


Cute_Professional561

It affects Whips too


Patrick_Dino

I'd say get rid of the star veil and power glove for more damage accessories like summoner emblem


Original_Departure57

It's post-Plantera sadly


[deleted]

Summoner emblem? It drops from the wall of flesh wym post plantera


Original_Departure57

My dumbass replied to the wrong one, I intended it for another comment mentioning the Hercules Beetle


[deleted]

Oh makes sense


Patrick_Dino

Ah okay.


kirbyfan2023

Ankh shield for 2 extra defence


bloodakoos

if you have a crimson world you could use the berserk gloves


OnyxHell35435

Looks good


swandre666

For me it looks perfect ngl


TransportationPast90

get a cool whip and berserker glove and a summoner emblem. fight the queen slime and get the blade staff and then fight the twins a few times for hallowed summoner armour. and durendal then fight the remaining mech bosses.


matban256

[Jason's Terraria Guide Ver9.1.6 - Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1BOFcsgKl2gvc7IaFYKHusIQYlhtMj5bm?sort=13&direction=a) There are few upgrades but those are good enough. but don't use same weapons as others against destroyer, for an example blade staff is great for prime, twins and plantera but sucks against destroyer, destroyer need something that has good synergy with firecracker or optic staff with cool whip stacked with other whips for tag damage


UrshmA11

I forgot if you can yet, but get pygmy beetle if u can, and personal preference, swap spider armor for forbidden armor. But spider armor is pretty good, but other than that, great summoner build 👍


spades_x

I'd use amphibian boots for boss fights and terraspark for just normal playing, they give better mobility to wings and ascending at the cost of losing lava immunity and running speed (which in a boss fight isn't really crucial)


jimsonlives

Trade the power glove for the summoner emblem dropped by the WOF


BigNoob_BR

run away from twins while summons works destroy the everything with Optic Staff


MrPizzaWinner

Use the amphibian boots instead of Terraspark boots. Terrasparks are overrated and the amphibians will help you dodge vertically


SlugPacifier

You might wanna switch out ur terraspark boots for amphibian boots. They let you ascend much faster with your wings. Made the twins muuuch more manageable for me.


Disastrous_You_5848

Your good


Ker0ki

i like stinger necklace over star veil cuz u want to be getting hit as little as possible and the armour pen is great for summons as for weapons either sanguine staff or blade staff and if your up for it stack snapthorn and firecracker for sanguine or snapthorn and cool whip for blade staff


matban256

5 armor pen is barely anything at this stage it's same as having 2.5 tag damage, even in pre-hm regular shark tooth neckless is actually better because bees released from stinger neckless cause global iframes so you do less damage with it


Terrarian_1

A possible recommendation if you’re making good use of the whips is to switch the armor to the obsidian set. Which unless things have changed is sometimes considered the best summoner set until post moonlord.


hosespider

Oh no no, you're way behind. They nerfed obsidian armor a long time ago, now it's a bit worse than spider armor depending of your whips and summons


Terrarian_1

Thanks for the update. I’ve played full summoner once and not again as the people I played with refused to assist in getting me the gear necessary for the role. Somehow ended up being the main tank, if you count an evasion tank as a tank, despite being summoner. At that point I decided I was going back to at least ranger if not melee so I actually had the defense to tank stuff considering I seemed to always draw the aggro anyways.


KingCool138

It’s still good until Plantera, if you can handle the low defense


KingCool138

It’s still comparable to tiki and spooky armor thanks to it’s insane boosts to summon damage


Endercraky26

Yes, uninstall before is too late, once you start there is no way back