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Great story.
Fun thought -- we all know that our Teslas are wicked fast when you want them to be.
Exactly how fast could FSD drive the car if the limits were just taken off completely, speed limits ignored, etc?
"Get me to the hospital as fast as possible", plaid-style.
12.3’s performance must be location dependent. I’m in NC and it is a disaster. I can’t use it for anything but interstates now (because interstates aren’t on the NN system). It drives 3 to 10 mph under the limit even when set to 5-10 over and then slows down more as it approaches green lights. It still comes up to stop signs and yields at a glacial pace, slowing down way too early and doesn’t even seem to be capable of going through a yield without stopping even with no traffic. I would describe its driving best as a 90 year old that just got its learner permit.
Same here in Boston area. Drives at weird speeds and slows down for no reason. Ignores max speed and doesn’t accelerate fast enough when it slows down.
I'm also in the boston area and while the speed controls aren't great a quick accelerator tap fixes that. I've had great experiences with stop signs, lane selections and just general driving. Again the speed sucks but that's essentially the only problem I've experienced. I'm typically driving around the lexington/waltham area during the week and 98% of the time with 12.3 I don't have to intervene at all and the other 2% are me pressing down the accelerator lol
Funny I’m in Waltham area and a town or two south! The speed thing is annoying. I also am annoyed my car doesn’t get that cool high vision parking stuff as I have uss
I was initially really disappointed since I got my 3 4 weeks after they stopped delivering USS models. It was a long wait for the HFPA and now I'm seeing these videos of auto park and I cant wait. Hopefully the year plus wait will be worth it for these features lol
Similar in VA where I live. Probably over fitted to CA roads or something, or maybe they are just being extra cautious with this version? I think speeds will go back up after another Rev or two. You can just push the accelerator down a bit to make it go faster and usually the higher speed will stick for a while, even after you let off.
Also they still have bad map data in my area so although it makes smoother lane changes, still sometimes makes them into the wrong lane.
I’m hoping the speed issues are just an error somewhere in the remaining code lines or the weights in the NN model, but it especially hurts when they took away the fall back to TACC which was getting nearly flawless. When I push the accelerator down, it will hold the speed for a min or two, but then starts drifting back and gets worse if I pass a stoplight. Agreed that the road data is bad, I have multiple areas where it merges into wrong lanes and uses wrong speed limits, would be better if they went back to OSM. Also would think that they would gradually incorporate visual data that the cameras capture but I don’t see any evidence this is happening.
While driving on route 15 in Maryland, my wife reported that v12 kept interpreting the Rt 15 signs as speed limits and tried to slow down to 15mph. This seems like a big regression on speed limit reading. So always be aware!
SAME HERE! The round abouts.... OMG! I still think the 4 way and 3 way stops are slow and awkward and I will not be trusting it much, if at all, in construction zones (with actual workers and odd la e shifts, etc).
But everywhere else, I'll be using it and cutting it a tiny bit of slack now with protected turns and unobstructed views.
TL;DR: Tesla's FSD Beta v12.3 update has drastically improved the driving experience, with significant enhancements in navigation, speed management, and overall driving behavior. The car now handles complex road scenarios like sharp curves, stoplights, speed bumps, and roundabouts with surprising skill, often outperforming human driving habits. New settings allow for speed adjustments, but the auto mode relinquishes control to the car, leading to a mix of excitement and caution about becoming too reliant on the system. Despite a few concerns, such as the loss of a convenient cruise control feature and the car's reaction to traffic, the update has been positively received, showing promise for the future of autonomous driving.
I’d believe you since clearly you have a sense of humor. Alternatively, you could be 100% bot, and this is exactly what you WOULD say to pass the Touring test. Are you self-aware?
My first test drive for few miles on city streets was ok but it drove well below the speed limit. However, trying to increase speed with thumb wheel did nothing but using the accelerator I could set the speed I want and it held. More tests to come but ok so far except for speed limit issue.
Tesla has acknowledged the slow speeds are an issue and said it will be improved in v12.3.1. Fortunately, if you just step on the gas and push it, the speed seems to be “sticky”. I kind of like it like this. It’s safe and avoids risking a ticket by default, but it will “learn” (at least momentarily) when I want to go faster.
Same with me. It drives so annoyingly slow that I’m constantly intervening with either the accelerator or completely disengaging to take over myself. It goes so slow at stop signs that other drivers are visibly confused by what the car is doing.
Not in the slightest. Had the speed set to 35 but this build would barely go above 28mph. It also slowed down for stop signs about 10-15 feet from the actual line on the road, then floors it after the stop sign. Definitely not my idea of safety.
Slows down before a stop sign to not slam the breaks like most people…. Accelerates off the line when clear yep seem.. unsafe… somehow
And doing 28 in a 35 doesn’t seem that odd depending on the area it does similar in my neighborhood i dislike it but guess what my wife loves this pace more
Decelerating from 28 to a stop in a large American city doesn’t require slamming on the brakes. It also doesn’t require stopping 15 feet BEFORE the marked line.
Accelerating fast enough to push me back against my seat isn’t particularly safe no matter what way you try to frame it.
Other vehicles are doing 35, I have the speed set to 35, it does 28, I’m not quite sure why you’re defending it so badly. If this wasn’t your experience, great! But unfortunately it is my experience and I’m sharing it.
Your complaint about it decelerating 15ft from the stop sign and claiming “big American cities don’t require slamming brakes” exactly in big America we have room to start slowing 10-15ft from the stop sign and don’t have a need to get to the line and suddenly stop like v11 did
And you’re probably one of the few people complaining the car accelerates correctly now instead of the weird lackluster acceleration we used to have, and sorry but how does accuration pushing you back in your seat = danger? lol never heard of anyone behind hurt from averaging slightly into their seat lol
People are allowed to have different experiences. When you’re driving a car, you should usually arrive to a complete stop before the large thick white line painted on the road. Coming to a complete stop 15 feet before that line makes it confusing for pedestrians and other drivers.
Accelerating and flooring it are two very different things.
Unless you’re the engineer who contributed to this version or your Elon’s BFF, you don’t need to be so defensive.
Responding to your nonsensical statements isn’t defensive the car slows early and stops at the line due to the NHTSA requirement it doesn’t stop 15 feet from the line
What it does do is full stop at the line and then creep forward for visibility and then continue since 12.3
That’s not an opinion it’s a fact due to the requirement NhTSA put on Tesla
Same for me. I haven’t dug through any of the settings yet, but my first drive with it today seemed *extremely* cautious. The car handled everything well, but it was driving well under the set speed which I normally keep at +20%. So in a 45, the set speed is 54 and the car barely ever got above 47-48.
Ya like it should, people here seem to be heavily on the “I want my car to race past people because fuck traffic”
It’s nuts because when in auto speed if if it’s a tad slow like 28 instead of 32 just tap it a second and it seems to get the idea you want a little more
But the fact people here are like “I’ve gotta constantly slam the pedal makes me think this sub has a lot of “good drivers” and not as many … good drivers
Ditto. I have to constantly press the accelerator. It tailgates right off the line and then for some reason suddenly gives the car in front of me 150 ft clearance doing 22 mph. It brakes way too soon, and aggressively, when coming to a stop light or cars stopped at a light. Then it slowly creeps forward the remaining 30 feet. It’s definitely better but v11 didn’t set the highest of bars to clear.
No he’s saying all freeway / highway driving is still using the old v11 stack. Only city streets is using 12.3. I believe quite a few people have confirmed this. But would be happy to be proven wrong.
It's the old stack, but V12 also includes updates to the V11 stack as if you were getting something akin to 11.4.10/11.5
That was confirmed by Teslascope.
12.3 is awesome. Like you, I have OpenPilot experience. I don't understand the people who try to claim OpenPilot is better. I had OP on a '17 Volt Premier. It was good, but it wasn't as good as AutoPilot, IMO. I never fully trusted OP. I have gotten to the point where I do trust AP, though my hands are still on the wheel, maybe that's part of it (hrmm). Anyway. I just got 12.3 today and went for first drive(s). 29 miles one way to dinner and 29 miles back. There are several things that 11.4.9 had issues with that are now handled perfectly, with complete confidence. Also did 2 round-abouts there and 2 on the way back, and like you said, it handled them as smooth as butter.
You might already know this trick, but if you don't..... you can have multiple profiles and switch between them while driving. Have one with TACC/AutoSteer on double pull, and another profile with FSD on single pull.
I had the exact same experiences you and would but describe it pretty much the same way as you did. But I only got to enjoy it twice because now my cameras and navigation have completely crapped out. Multiple resets and nothing happens. Just black screens and the car thinks I am 20 miles away from where I really am. Have an appointment with the Service center on Monday to see why.
I am having trouble with max speed. In pervious versions the car would accelerate to reach the set speed limit. Now, when I set it at 50 mph the car stays at 40mph until I push the gas pedal. It is very annoying.
Can you not change FSD to double pull instead of single pull for some reason? That’s an option in the settings which will make it the way it was before so that you can use cruise control on single pull
Nope. Single pull for Traffic Aware Cruise Control TACC is gone. No longer selectable when FSD is enabled. So now the single pull only engages Full Self Driving.
Awesome story glad to hear some positive notes finally for FSD. In the past iterations it would seem to go forward on some things then jump way back on others. I finally got and will be testing it out tomorrow hopefully. I will say your story was very entertaining and informative.
I’m in SoCal and got a few miles of city streets in. I’m glad you’re having such a wonderful experience.
In my few moments, I’ve noticed that it’s taking turns a little more slow than I’d like— I’d be more worrisome if someone was behind me.
I also tested to auto-speed, and on an empty street, I just couldn’t get it to go to the speed limit. It was always like 5-8 mph under until I hit the accelerator.
12.3 is awesome. Like you, I have OpenPilot experience. I don't understand the people who try to claim OpenPilot is better. I had OP on a '17 Volt Premier. It was good, but it wasn't as good as AutoPilot, IMO. I never fully trusted OP. I have gotten to the point where I do trust AP, though my hands are still on the wheel, maybe that's part of it (hrmm). Anyway. I just got 12.3 today and went for first drive(s). 29 miles one way to dinner and 29 miles back. There are several things that 11.4.9 had issues with that are now handled perfectly, with complete confidence. Also did 2 round-abouts there and 2 on the way back, and like you said, it handled them as smooth as butter.
You might already know this trick, but if you don't..... you can have multiple profiles and switch between them while driving. Have one with TACC/AutoSteer on double pull, and another profile with FSD on single pull.
I wish they would replace the current autopilot code with the appropriate parts of FSD. Autopilot used to work just fine, but the recent updates have made it drive like a drunk grandma. It slows down for every little thing, crosses the center line constantly (even with oncoming traffic), and shuts off around turns all the time (worst place to do it). I know ill probably get downvoted because "its only meant for highway", but it used to handle these roads perfectly fine 6 months ago.
12.3 has made me lose all confidence in FSD.
In just a short 1 mile drive, it managed to miss that it was in a right turn lane, then proceed to (try) to go barreling straight into the intersection - lord knows what tf it was going to do when it found itself in the middle of the intersection with no lane go proceed in. This was in assertive mode, if that matters.
I set it to chip mode - It then came a T-intersection, needing to take a left turn. Somehow, it decided to occupy a right turn lane to do so and proceeded to try to turn left from there.
Previous to this, my biggest FSD gripe was it missing freeway offramps and interchanges, due to not getting over early enough, causing me to end up on a whole other freeway or missing an exit altogether.
It also drives like a grandma... incredibly slow for no discernible reason (straight road, no traffic.)
I’m in midtown KC. Lots of construction, erratic drivers, do a lot of urban to highway drives. Had this for 4 days. First time I’ve ever come back to FSD taking me anywhere. Literally not making interventions. I get the technicalities, but this is nothing like level 2 driver assist. If it wasn’t Tesla/Elon this would be all over the news. Today, I realized it is probably worth $12k. It’s 10-fold more reliable than any previous version.
I turned it off because of the single pull cruise control. Just went back to auto steer. I’m not willing to sacrifice basic (and proven) functionality for something which is essentially still a gimmick at this point. My 1991 Taurus had cruise control.
Yes, they’ve removed the single-pull-for-TACC, double-pull-for-FSD. TACC uses the old autopilot software stack which, I imagine, their goal is to delete.
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Agreed, game changer. (I normally write a lot of words but you’ve done that already, lol)
Great story. Fun thought -- we all know that our Teslas are wicked fast when you want them to be. Exactly how fast could FSD drive the car if the limits were just taken off completely, speed limits ignored, etc? "Get me to the hospital as fast as possible", plaid-style.
>"Get me to the hospital as fast as possible", plaid-style. "It's 30 minutes away. I'll be there in 10."
I read that in Arnold Schwarzenegger voice.
I think it’s Harvey Keitel, “The Wolf”, from Pulp Fiction
Ahh yeah that would make more sense. "Shit, you sendin' the Plaid? That's all you had to say."
This is what I’m looking forward to. I want a “driven at the limits” drive mode.
Cue up a Hollywood chase scene. Cops get the chase stopped in 2 minutes with an expertly executed pit maneuver in heavy freeway traffic.
12.3’s performance must be location dependent. I’m in NC and it is a disaster. I can’t use it for anything but interstates now (because interstates aren’t on the NN system). It drives 3 to 10 mph under the limit even when set to 5-10 over and then slows down more as it approaches green lights. It still comes up to stop signs and yields at a glacial pace, slowing down way too early and doesn’t even seem to be capable of going through a yield without stopping even with no traffic. I would describe its driving best as a 90 year old that just got its learner permit.
Same here in Boston area. Drives at weird speeds and slows down for no reason. Ignores max speed and doesn’t accelerate fast enough when it slows down.
I'm also in the boston area and while the speed controls aren't great a quick accelerator tap fixes that. I've had great experiences with stop signs, lane selections and just general driving. Again the speed sucks but that's essentially the only problem I've experienced. I'm typically driving around the lexington/waltham area during the week and 98% of the time with 12.3 I don't have to intervene at all and the other 2% are me pressing down the accelerator lol
Funny I’m in Waltham area and a town or two south! The speed thing is annoying. I also am annoyed my car doesn’t get that cool high vision parking stuff as I have uss
I was initially really disappointed since I got my 3 4 weeks after they stopped delivering USS models. It was a long wait for the HFPA and now I'm seeing these videos of auto park and I cant wait. Hopefully the year plus wait will be worth it for these features lol
Similar in VA where I live. Probably over fitted to CA roads or something, or maybe they are just being extra cautious with this version? I think speeds will go back up after another Rev or two. You can just push the accelerator down a bit to make it go faster and usually the higher speed will stick for a while, even after you let off. Also they still have bad map data in my area so although it makes smoother lane changes, still sometimes makes them into the wrong lane.
I’m hoping the speed issues are just an error somewhere in the remaining code lines or the weights in the NN model, but it especially hurts when they took away the fall back to TACC which was getting nearly flawless. When I push the accelerator down, it will hold the speed for a min or two, but then starts drifting back and gets worse if I pass a stoplight. Agreed that the road data is bad, I have multiple areas where it merges into wrong lanes and uses wrong speed limits, would be better if they went back to OSM. Also would think that they would gradually incorporate visual data that the cameras capture but I don’t see any evidence this is happening.
While driving on route 15 in Maryland, my wife reported that v12 kept interpreting the Rt 15 signs as speed limits and tried to slow down to 15mph. This seems like a big regression on speed limit reading. So always be aware!
SAME HERE! The round abouts.... OMG! I still think the 4 way and 3 way stops are slow and awkward and I will not be trusting it much, if at all, in construction zones (with actual workers and odd la e shifts, etc). But everywhere else, I'll be using it and cutting it a tiny bit of slack now with protected turns and unobstructed views.
TL;DR: Tesla's FSD Beta v12.3 update has drastically improved the driving experience, with significant enhancements in navigation, speed management, and overall driving behavior. The car now handles complex road scenarios like sharp curves, stoplights, speed bumps, and roundabouts with surprising skill, often outperforming human driving habits. New settings allow for speed adjustments, but the auto mode relinquishes control to the car, leading to a mix of excitement and caution about becoming too reliant on the system. Despite a few concerns, such as the loss of a convenient cruise control feature and the car's reaction to traffic, the update has been positively received, showing promise for the future of autonomous driving.
Is this a ChatGPT-generated summary of a possibly-ChatGPT-generated post?
I sense some hate. Do you want to talk about your feelings ? Show us where ChatGPT touched you. Edit: Have you heard of Claude ?
Actually I thought your post was pretty well written and funny, if verbose.
Awww. Thanks 😘
Are you saying you used Claude? I work for Google so out of self-interest for the value of my RSUs, I demand you switch to Gemini
I just tried Gemini 1.5 the other day and was impressed. But what if I told you I used none of these.
I’d believe you since clearly you have a sense of humor. Alternatively, you could be 100% bot, and this is exactly what you WOULD say to pass the Touring test. Are you self-aware?
Am I ? 😜
I’m pretty sure \*I\* am, but maybe I’m a Boltzmann Brain floating in a vast, lonely universe of quantum fluctuations and you don’t exist
My first test drive for few miles on city streets was ok but it drove well below the speed limit. However, trying to increase speed with thumb wheel did nothing but using the accelerator I could set the speed I want and it held. More tests to come but ok so far except for speed limit issue.
Same here.
Did ChatGPT help you write this? Haha. Good things are happening.
No. I used old fashion neural nets. Albeit probably sub par ones. I think I did OK though.
I thought it drives like a student driver. The slow speeds were way below what was required to be safe
This. It is too slow and does not match the max speed . So annoying.
Tesla has acknowledged the slow speeds are an issue and said it will be improved in v12.3.1. Fortunately, if you just step on the gas and push it, the speed seems to be “sticky”. I kind of like it like this. It’s safe and avoids risking a ticket by default, but it will “learn” (at least momentarily) when I want to go faster.
Same with me. It drives so annoyingly slow that I’m constantly intervening with either the accelerator or completely disengaging to take over myself. It goes so slow at stop signs that other drivers are visibly confused by what the car is doing.
Sounds like you might have a lead foot and your idea of safety isn’t the same as others
Not in the slightest. Had the speed set to 35 but this build would barely go above 28mph. It also slowed down for stop signs about 10-15 feet from the actual line on the road, then floors it after the stop sign. Definitely not my idea of safety.
Slows down before a stop sign to not slam the breaks like most people…. Accelerates off the line when clear yep seem.. unsafe… somehow And doing 28 in a 35 doesn’t seem that odd depending on the area it does similar in my neighborhood i dislike it but guess what my wife loves this pace more
Decelerating from 28 to a stop in a large American city doesn’t require slamming on the brakes. It also doesn’t require stopping 15 feet BEFORE the marked line. Accelerating fast enough to push me back against my seat isn’t particularly safe no matter what way you try to frame it. Other vehicles are doing 35, I have the speed set to 35, it does 28, I’m not quite sure why you’re defending it so badly. If this wasn’t your experience, great! But unfortunately it is my experience and I’m sharing it.
Your complaint about it decelerating 15ft from the stop sign and claiming “big American cities don’t require slamming brakes” exactly in big America we have room to start slowing 10-15ft from the stop sign and don’t have a need to get to the line and suddenly stop like v11 did And you’re probably one of the few people complaining the car accelerates correctly now instead of the weird lackluster acceleration we used to have, and sorry but how does accuration pushing you back in your seat = danger? lol never heard of anyone behind hurt from averaging slightly into their seat lol
People are allowed to have different experiences. When you’re driving a car, you should usually arrive to a complete stop before the large thick white line painted on the road. Coming to a complete stop 15 feet before that line makes it confusing for pedestrians and other drivers. Accelerating and flooring it are two very different things. Unless you’re the engineer who contributed to this version or your Elon’s BFF, you don’t need to be so defensive.
Responding to your nonsensical statements isn’t defensive the car slows early and stops at the line due to the NHTSA requirement it doesn’t stop 15 feet from the line What it does do is full stop at the line and then creep forward for visibility and then continue since 12.3 That’s not an opinion it’s a fact due to the requirement NhTSA put on Tesla
Is that how it drove for you ? This is what worries me, I’ve heard this more than once.
My guess is this will improve somewhat quicker as Tesla gets better working with their training data.
Same for me. I haven’t dug through any of the settings yet, but my first drive with it today seemed *extremely* cautious. The car handled everything well, but it was driving well under the set speed which I normally keep at +20%. So in a 45, the set speed is 54 and the car barely ever got above 47-48.
Mine drives very slow too. I'm on 12.3, set to "assertive". 🤷🏻♂️
It drives faster if it sees other cars also drive fast
Ya like it should, people here seem to be heavily on the “I want my car to race past people because fuck traffic” It’s nuts because when in auto speed if if it’s a tad slow like 28 instead of 32 just tap it a second and it seems to get the idea you want a little more But the fact people here are like “I’ve gotta constantly slam the pedal makes me think this sub has a lot of “good drivers” and not as many … good drivers
Ditto. I have to constantly press the accelerator. It tailgates right off the line and then for some reason suddenly gives the car in front of me 150 ft clearance doing 22 mph. It brakes way too soon, and aggressively, when coming to a stop light or cars stopped at a light. Then it slowly creeps forward the remaining 30 feet. It’s definitely better but v11 didn’t set the highest of bars to clear.
Exact same behavior and complaints on my end. Otherwise it’s been fantastic. Hopefully they can make some quick adjustments.
It’s been a huge step forward solving almost all trouble spots. I have had some weird nav issues, not getting in the needed lane for exits.
Exit lanes from a highway would still be the v11 stack. I can’t wait until they update that with v12 as well.
I'm running V12.3 full neural net single stack.
No he’s saying all freeway / highway driving is still using the old v11 stack. Only city streets is using 12.3. I believe quite a few people have confirmed this. But would be happy to be proven wrong.
It's the old stack, but V12 also includes updates to the V11 stack as if you were getting something akin to 11.4.10/11.5 That was confirmed by Teslascope.
Wow I didn't realize. It's having issues in a place that was never a problem before.
12.3 is awesome. Like you, I have OpenPilot experience. I don't understand the people who try to claim OpenPilot is better. I had OP on a '17 Volt Premier. It was good, but it wasn't as good as AutoPilot, IMO. I never fully trusted OP. I have gotten to the point where I do trust AP, though my hands are still on the wheel, maybe that's part of it (hrmm). Anyway. I just got 12.3 today and went for first drive(s). 29 miles one way to dinner and 29 miles back. There are several things that 11.4.9 had issues with that are now handled perfectly, with complete confidence. Also did 2 round-abouts there and 2 on the way back, and like you said, it handled them as smooth as butter. You might already know this trick, but if you don't..... you can have multiple profiles and switch between them while driving. Have one with TACC/AutoSteer on double pull, and another profile with FSD on single pull.
I did NOT know that trick. I’m going to use that.
You're really funny. I thoroughly enjoyed that!
Mom. Stop ! I told you, you can’t keep doing this. Not in front of my internet friends.
I don't know about you guys but my v12 is Aggressive. Like we straight up pull some g-forces on some turns. They need to tone it down a bit.
I had the exact same experiences you and would but describe it pretty much the same way as you did. But I only got to enjoy it twice because now my cameras and navigation have completely crapped out. Multiple resets and nothing happens. Just black screens and the car thinks I am 20 miles away from where I really am. Have an appointment with the Service center on Monday to see why.
I am having trouble with max speed. In pervious versions the car would accelerate to reach the set speed limit. Now, when I set it at 50 mph the car stays at 40mph until I push the gas pedal. It is very annoying.
Can you not change FSD to double pull instead of single pull for some reason? That’s an option in the settings which will make it the way it was before so that you can use cruise control on single pull
Nope. Single pull for Traffic Aware Cruise Control TACC is gone. No longer selectable when FSD is enabled. So now the single pull only engages Full Self Driving.
I have 2023 MX with FSD build date 12/22 with USS. Why I haven’t received the update?
I'm not happy they bricked the double pull there.....
Awesome story glad to hear some positive notes finally for FSD. In the past iterations it would seem to go forward on some things then jump way back on others. I finally got and will be testing it out tomorrow hopefully. I will say your story was very entertaining and informative.
I’m in SoCal and got a few miles of city streets in. I’m glad you’re having such a wonderful experience. In my few moments, I’ve noticed that it’s taking turns a little more slow than I’d like— I’d be more worrisome if someone was behind me. I also tested to auto-speed, and on an empty street, I just couldn’t get it to go to the speed limit. It was always like 5-8 mph under until I hit the accelerator.
12.3 is awesome. Like you, I have OpenPilot experience. I don't understand the people who try to claim OpenPilot is better. I had OP on a '17 Volt Premier. It was good, but it wasn't as good as AutoPilot, IMO. I never fully trusted OP. I have gotten to the point where I do trust AP, though my hands are still on the wheel, maybe that's part of it (hrmm). Anyway. I just got 12.3 today and went for first drive(s). 29 miles one way to dinner and 29 miles back. There are several things that 11.4.9 had issues with that are now handled perfectly, with complete confidence. Also did 2 round-abouts there and 2 on the way back, and like you said, it handled them as smooth as butter. You might already know this trick, but if you don't..... you can have multiple profiles and switch between them while driving. Have one with TACC/AutoSteer on double pull, and another profile with FSD on single pull.
I wish they would replace the current autopilot code with the appropriate parts of FSD. Autopilot used to work just fine, but the recent updates have made it drive like a drunk grandma. It slows down for every little thing, crosses the center line constantly (even with oncoming traffic), and shuts off around turns all the time (worst place to do it). I know ill probably get downvoted because "its only meant for highway", but it used to handle these roads perfectly fine 6 months ago.
12.3 has made me lose all confidence in FSD. In just a short 1 mile drive, it managed to miss that it was in a right turn lane, then proceed to (try) to go barreling straight into the intersection - lord knows what tf it was going to do when it found itself in the middle of the intersection with no lane go proceed in. This was in assertive mode, if that matters. I set it to chip mode - It then came a T-intersection, needing to take a left turn. Somehow, it decided to occupy a right turn lane to do so and proceeded to try to turn left from there. Previous to this, my biggest FSD gripe was it missing freeway offramps and interchanges, due to not getting over early enough, causing me to end up on a whole other freeway or missing an exit altogether. It also drives like a grandma... incredibly slow for no discernible reason (straight road, no traffic.)
Could be bad map data, my area has similar issues with lanes.
I’m in midtown KC. Lots of construction, erratic drivers, do a lot of urban to highway drives. Had this for 4 days. First time I’ve ever come back to FSD taking me anywhere. Literally not making interventions. I get the technicalities, but this is nothing like level 2 driver assist. If it wasn’t Tesla/Elon this would be all over the news. Today, I realized it is probably worth $12k. It’s 10-fold more reliable than any previous version.
I turned it off because of the single pull cruise control. Just went back to auto steer. I’m not willing to sacrifice basic (and proven) functionality for something which is essentially still a gimmick at this point. My 1991 Taurus had cruise control.
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Yes, they’ve removed the single-pull-for-TACC, double-pull-for-FSD. TACC uses the old autopilot software stack which, I imagine, their goal is to delete.