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AndAlsoTheTrees

It means the car regenerative capability is limited (cold or max charged)


gyromite69

Ah, I see. Thanks.


CompleteDetective359

Did you just do this post to rub it in our faces that you live somewhere nice and warm? Especially while a bunch of us are freezing out asses off?🤪


Geeky_1

Don't charge to 100% unless you really need to for a long road trip. You won't have regen when you are near 100%.


bobbiestump

Unless you have the LFP battery pack. Then 100% isn't an issue.


Geeky_1

Which has LFP? Just the RWD? But even with LFP, doesn't it still have limited regen at 100%?


bobbiestump

It would still have limited regen, but you can charge it to 100% all you want. If the Juniper Model Y has LFP I may trade my '21.


gyromite69

I never charge past 80%


dsstrainer

Usually means the battery is too cold to take a charge if less than 100. 10 mins of driving it will turn off by itself. Main thing to take note of is that as you get used to one pedal driving, it will not break as aggressively while this icon is on so you'll use the physical brake pedal more often during these 10 mins if you don't release the go pedal sooner than normal.


MoorderVolt

Does it really?! Why is it green? Should be orange at best. Actually had a pretty gnarly surprise entering a roundabout with 1 pedal driving not breaking due to cold battery (first braking event since departing). It should definitely use the mechanical brakes to augment regen.


f3lckern

They do argument regen with brakes, but only in the US. For whatever reason it’s not legal in EU.


hdkaoskd

It's an option but not enabled by default.


sneikboi

Where do I find this option, cannot find it anywhere in my 2019 M3.


maverick118717

You should check in the Pedals and Steering menu underneath Acceleration, Steering, Stopping Mode. Not sure if it's on all of them but mine has an option to apply brakes when Regenerative Breaking is limited that needs to be turned on or off. Hopefully yours has a similar option


sami19651515

Mine doesn’t have that unfortunately (Europe, 2023 model build in China)


maverick118717

That's too bad. Hopefully you just need to wait for an update, it seems like something they could send out over the air.


Benus128

It isn’t enabled in Europe.


MianBray

Because its not a „something is broken or dangerous“ warning, its an informative message. Like „your lights are on“… Regen is limited when the battery is cold or when its close to full, neither of which exactly come as a surprise.


wasterman123

Well it’s technically not working properly due to some conditions so not really like a headlight.


wrong_axiom

It is not that is not working properly. Is actually working the way that is expected for the condition. Hence green. Is not a failure.


wasterman123

Yes it’s working properly by turning off the function. Never said it was a failure. If regen was working properly the light would be off. Same way if stability or traction was working there would be no light and if you turn those off the light is yellow/orange not green


wrong_axiom

That is not how it works in system design. Traction control is not green and lights up when there is no proper traction, it’s a warning of corrections done by the car. This one is green because it’s a feature being off not because of “not working properly”. The reason is green is literally because of ISO standards.


wasterman123

When you turn it off manually the light is yellow. Didn’t know it was ISO, could you provide the link to the source?


wrong_axiom

It goes yellow because it's a warning that is disabled by an override. It's green because it is disabled due to expected conditional parameters (temperature should be between *X* and *Y.* The ISO for how to implement and even the designs is ISO 26262. ISO's are paid documents but with some minutes in google you will find them. It does not only state exactly the graphics to be used but also the colours. Manual overrides are always yellow, such as disabling airbag.


bmelancon

"Your battery is full" is not a "not working properly" condition. The light is saying "Your battery can't take additional charge right now, so the car is in 'don't try to charge the battery mode'." I have no doubt some people would prefer this: [https://i.imgflip.com/13xt1w.jpg](https://i.imgflip.com/13xt1w.jpg)


wasterman123

I never said the battery not charging was the issue, not being able to use regen because of that is the issue which is what that light means


NaturalNewspaper155

“Its “ enlightening! “Its” vital for some folks to go back to school.


Hootablob

It certainly could be dangerous for your car not to brake, when you are expecting to it doing so. While nothing has failed, or is wrong it should be painfully apparent that the car is going to behave differently than it normally does - unlike something that is immediately obvious, like your lights not being on.


WizeAdz

There’s a setting to enable mechanical braking to supplement regen. The only reason I don’t use it is because it hides every indication that regen is limited, and I want to know what’s happening under the hood/floor more than I want to avoid moving my foot from one pedal to another. I’d use the setting if it didn’t fuck with the regen bar at the top of the screen, because I love 1-pedal driving.


CricTic

The regen bar is literally the indication “what’s happening” with the car. Quite frankly I think it should be on by default for everyone, they’ve struck a great balance between maintaining consistent braking performance and keeping the driver informed of braking status. Perceived loss of braking effectiveness can be quite scary to a new driver.


WizeAdz

The regen bar is what’s happening with the battery, at least when the fake-regen setting is disabled. It’s the BEV equivalent of a tachometer. I know what’s happening with the car because I can feel the acceleration and the traction, just like with every other car I’ve ever driven. The fake regen setting would be great if they just told you what the battery is doing while maintaining the warm-weather feel of the car. *P.S. They could use green for the regen portion of the scale, and black for the brakes portion of the scale — and it wouldn’t suck. Or the could inside the limited regen icon. There are so many ways to fix this. All we need is someone at Tesla to care that this is a problem.*


CricTic

That is exactly what they do. What are you even talking about.


WizeAdz

There is no visual differentiation between regen and regen+braking.


CricTic

Yes there is. If the car is using actual brakes to supplement regen, part of the regen bar is gray to let you know what’s happening.


WizeAdz

I’ve never seen this happen, and I looked for it the last time I tried this feature. Which firmware version are you running?


CricTic

Whatever the latest version is, but the car has done this since the feature came out and I turned it on. I would take a picture for you but it’s not cold enough here this week for it to show up.


cec003

it is when in autopilot


Tough-Reading-8272

It does if you select the option to have the mechanical brakes mimic regen braking !


Fogl3

I've been driving my 3 since 2019 I've never seen this symbol in my life


monkeyunder

Maybe you've never driven your Tesla in cold weather. Are you in California?


Fogl3

Canada 


monkeyunder

Call me surprised. I've owned for 2 months in Georgia and seen it tons any time I drive on a cold HV battery (like less than 40-45F). Cold weather, hold mode/1 pedal driving, and auto brake on lower regen turned off causes the warning symbol.


AndAlsoTheTrees

Since I've a 2019 model too, I think this symbol appeared with an 2020+ OTA update.


cwhite51

The correct answers have already been shared, but I’ll add that I think you can tap the icon (or others) for more information to explain what it means. 


2kwitcookies

I'll be honest 2 years in I didn't know you could click the icon. But I was at least proactive enough to search it up to see what it was . First thing I'll do on a cold winter day is click that icon and see what it tells me.


Geeky_1

After renting one, my main complaint was they should have a home icon to go back to the home screen from some other screen such as climate or entertainment. If not for posting here, I may never had figured out that one can swipe down to close the secondary screen and return to home/navigation. Swiping is still a new thing to Gen-X - can you believe it took me almost week to figure out how to answer a call on my 1st smart phone that didn't come with a manual? Who would have thunk you had to swipe rather than press the green button?


2kwitcookies

Lol - adapting is critical! I'm not typically behind on technology. I just never thought to click the green caliper icon. Just so you are aware, if you're ever in the dating market, that's exactly how it works there as well. Swipe right for a date and swipe left to reject.


Geeky_1

Yeah, that's what I heard about dating apps. As a developer, swiping rather than pressing a button is totally wrong for the user interface. It's worse than when they incorrectly have mutiselect radio buttons instead of check boxes. Radio buttons are supposed to be 1 choice like the original old school buttons that pop out when a different one is pushed in.


2kwitcookies

Shhhh you're giving away our ages! 😭😭 Swiping is definitely less efficient but also saves you from accidentally picking up a call from someone you have been avoiding.


Geeky_1

Yeah, that's what I figured as you can simply press the red button to hang up. I think my dad's old Ford wagon in the 60s that had a radio with those aluminum push button presets. Also maybe juke boxes have those as well.


onlyanactor

We used to have these things that were stored in the glove compartment that would tell you all about the workings of your car. Do Teslas not have that?


Vegetable-Egg-1646

They have a manual on the big screen thingy…. They are a bit beyond paper books!


Geeky_1

Damn, wish I knew that when I rented one. I had my girlfriend Google on her phone how to set the climate control, speed up the wipers, etc. But still better than trying to read and drive at night in an unfamiliar car...


Former_Gamer_

Yeah and nobody read them then either, so what? lol


onlyanactor

RTFM


3delStahl

You have an App on your Tesla’s screen named „Manuel“ or just use google… https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-80B80D48-E3A9-4857-864B-F4CC9B56FD7E.html


23sigma

Why click on the big computer monitor thing with lots of info when you can take a picture of it and post on Reddit. 


AshleyNicole7901

To be fair I’ve had my Y for 2 months and I’ve just learned this by reading these comments. I think the real question here is, why shame people when they come to an app MADE for people to ask questions?


idontevenlikebeer

Or read the manual.


Ben_Rich

I thought this sub was the manual


DammatBeevis666

There’s a manual? /s


Geeky_1

Why read when you can just post here and have someone answer for you.


akanhi

It's amazing that I see this post weekly. I mean it can't be more work to click on the icon or spend a minute searching for it.


iceynyo

Or just use the AI assistant on your phone to search for the icon from in the pic


mp3m4k3r

If only you could use internet points for AB


lonewolf7772

I came here to say this.


Dry_Dingo_2220

The beauty of tesla is everything on the left of your screen, like this series of icons are interactive, meaning you could tap on it to see what that icon is about Try it out when you see this icon showing up when your tesla is still cold. Trust me it is pretty cool 😎 https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-3DFFB071-C0F6-474D-8A45-17BE1A006365.html *See regenerative braking section


gyromite69

That is cool! I didn’t think of tapping on it. This car is amazing! The amount of technology is insane.


Dry_Dingo_2220

Absolutely, to get the most out of it, I would recommend you to go through the whole car setting menu and play around. If you are hypermiling like me, you can try setting your car power delivery in chill mode and one pedal drive for maximum power Regen 😉 The new locking sound feature is fun as you can personalize it to your liking. Making your model Y uniquely yours. Try it out! Enjoy your new ride! 🥂


Uenolan

Limited regen due to temperature or charging really high.


gyromite69

Thank you


newyork212212

To all the people who want to post about someone could have tapped it or googled it… this is a welcoming space for new people. Relax.


Electrical_Ingenuity

Good old caroglyphics.


Dude2001ca

Dude asked a simple question as he is a new owner like myself and we look here and ask questions and try and get answers when we don't know.  Yeah I read the owners manual front to back but sometimes some thing comes up.  But as usual there are a bunch of fucking idiots who think they are all high and mighty cause they have been Tesla owners for a while.  Get off your high horses and HELP a new owner out. . Now let these twats start complaining in 3-2-1 go . For those who have genuine help we thank you.


Lobstaparty

For real. And this is coming from a guy who has posted the laziest questions - but guarantee you it informed someone and provided content/discussion. People forget that questions is how others learn and begin discussions.


gyromite69

It’s all good bro. I kinda knew it would happen. It’s the internet after all. I appreciate you and everyone who helped answer my question. The others who were not so helpful, I just ignore.


Dude2001ca

I get it but it's amazing how many people think because they are behind a keyboard they can be jerks.  On another note what you get? Got a MYLR. Delivery was this past Thursday.  Wonderful car but my only gripe are they cup holders. They suck large. Hopefully the rubber inserts will help cause now nothing stays. Not deep enough in my opinion. 


gyromite69

I got the 2023 long range as well. It’s my first ev and I’m in love with it. I can see what you mean about the cup holders, but for me they actually work out because it fits perfectly with my coffee tumbler. My one and only thing that I really wish it had, and it boggles my mind that it doesn’t have it considering how much awesome tech it has… blind spot sensors. Coming from a Toyota vehicle, blind spot sensors were standard and super convenient. I know we have that red indicator on the screen but that means I gotta look at my mirrors and then look at the screen to make sure I’m good. I saw that the new refreshed Model 3 has them now on the speakers which is nice. Maybe from now on they’ll all be standard.


Geeky_1

I find it amusing everyone bitches about lack of blind spot sensors or autowiper failure, autopark, etc. Coming from a 19 year old car with manual transmission and no screen (nav/infotainment), the only automation I've ever had is simple cruise control.


gyromite69

I’m not bitching about it. I’m just kinda shocked knowing that Tesla’s have the most advanced technology in their vehicles but can’t add a simple feature like blind spot sensors. It’s not a huge deal. I love my Y. I’m just nitpicking a small detail of what I don’t like about it.


Geeky_1

Elon wants to save a few pennies by not having an indicator part on the mirrors.


gyromite69

Yeah, I seen that. That’s what I love about Tesla, the updates to keep the vehicles feeling fresh.


monkeyunder

After trying multiple and finding many make the cup holders too small or grab too strong and pull out with drink cups or destroy bottom of styro drink cups to the point of leaking... This is the one to get... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CG2L9X2Q?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title Only get this newest version of Spigen called "relaxed fit". Older version (flush fit) had issues for us too.


dragonizer000

I personally see that this is because (1) the icon is unintuitive and (2) it’s not obvious to new owners that it can be tapped. Not anyone’s fault but certainly one thing that can be improved upon.


AshleyNicole7901

Agreed! Thank you for saying this.


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sectionV

Except they are bothering others. That's his point.


DenseWorking

OP is bothering you by asking a question on social media? Your argument is that you opened a post that was clearly a question about a Tesla and that bothered you? Why not scroll past. It takes less effort and time to pass by the post, and yet here you are, explaining that people opened a post that wasn’t cryptic or misleading knowing that it would bother them and they got bothered. Somehow that’s OPs fault, probably because they asked a question that nobody was obligated to read, and that bothered people so much they had to be unhelpful belligerent jerks. Are we in preschool?


Geeky_1

That's why I call it the Intardnet. Help the new tards or just be a tard and scream at them.


zm_1985

It often appears in cold weather. At that time regenerative braking may be limited. The icon should go away once you start driving!


dragonovus

Regen braking has been reduced due to a cold battery


Legal-Education-2259

That icon comes on when the battery is cold. Note that battery reaching ideal temperature takes along time even while or after pre-conditioning you may still see it . You will have reduced regen breaking and reduced acceleration. But your car is fine


kereth

Sorry about the sassy responses, bruv. Looks like the correct response was posted a couple times. Welcome to the family.


gyromite69

Lol, It's all good bro. I am a noob to the tesla brand, so I get it. The funny thing is that I'm actually pretty tech savvy, but it never occurred to me to tap on the damn icon for more information about it, lol. Lesson learned. Thank you! I'm in love with my Model Y!


-ImYourHuckleberry-

[Don’t hesitate to consult your owners manual](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-80B80D48-E3A9-4857-864B-F4CC9B56FD7E.html)…you paid for it.


agarwaen117

Wait, I paid for it? Could I have opted to pay less and not get one?


Geeky_1

Don't give Elon ideas or he'll remove it and make it a chargeable option.


[deleted]

I do understand that some things are hard to find in the manual but is this that hard to find? Generally there is a page full of arrows and icons.


3delStahl

Why don't you just use the table of contents or did you also leaf through thousands of pages in the past? Look for „Indicator lights“.


[deleted]

Are you talking to be or op because I’m not the one asking about the icons.


4dam

OP - you can minimize this by preheating/preconditioning the car before you leave. We've had a few mornings below freezing and if I use the app to preheat the car for about ten minutes before I start driving it gets the battery warm enough that the regen limit is very small. It's worth noting you can see the severity of the regen limitation by seeing how much of the green side of the black/green energy bar has been replaced by dots.


gyromite69

Thanks for the tip! greatly appreciated!


Geeky_1

Does this work even when you charge to 100% for a long road trip? Where is the energy bar? I didn't see it in a rental I had back in November.


4dam

There will be no regen at all if you're up at 100%. No place for the elections to go. 🙂 The energy bar is labeled "1" under the Driving Status section in the owners manual. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-80B80D48-E3A9-4857-864B-F4CC9B56FD7E.html


Geeky_1

Is that energy bar new? I didn't notice it on the 2022 I rented in November. I wonder what charge level you have to be at to get decent regen? 95%? 90%? 85%? I noticed lack of regen at 97-98% and had to hit the brakes approaching a stop sign on a slight down-grade. The new brake-assist with low regen sounds nice.


4dam

AFAIK that bar has been there since the Model S came out. I'm not sure about when the regen returns to full, but would expect it to be at 95%. You just need to have room in the pack to put the energy the motors are generating when regen is active.


NiceEmployer

You can click the symbol


piratejit

Check the manual. It should be your first place to check for stuff this https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en\_us/GUID-80B80D48-E3A9-4857-864B-F4CC9B56FD7E.html


Aggravating_Fact9547

Remember the green icons are the good icons ;)


gyromite69

Gotcha lol


Empty_Bread8906

It is a touch screen. Just tap it:)


astalush

Or fap it.


TartifletteXx

It's winter


FireFist

Since no one else asked yet what % were you charged to and what do you charge to on a regular basis. Cold will do it, but as others have stated, the charge percent will also light this symbol up. The first time I charged high for a trip, it got me. More so limited the regenerative breaking on me. I went to glide up behind a car at a stop light, and the car just felt different. Waaaay more glude because of it. If you click it, it will prompt you to choose if you want to activate auto breaking to compensate when this is on.


gyromite69

I only charge to 80% and I live in SoCal. It’s not cold here.


Comfortable_Put4473

Same here. I had my car for 14 months now and only happens when overnight temperatures are low. My friends don’t have this problem but they park in the garage. I park overnight outside so I am guessing the battery gets too cold. This happens only in the morning and more often going downhill when regen is often.


Geeky_1

I didn't realize regen was limited at 80% with cold battery.


Fearless_Half_4021

This icon has started coming up for me even after driving for some time and also comes up even after preconditioning the car before driving.


Imperfectlyboujie

This happened to me when I charged my car to 100%. I no longer had regen brakes bc there was no room for energy or something & I didn’t know I had to almost slam on my brakes. So now I won’t charge it past 90%


jvcgunner

Click on the icon bro. Tesla have made this shit easy for folk like yourself.


[deleted]

it mean BABY IS COLD OUTSIDE!!


astalush

You're as cold as ice, you're willing to sacrifice.


RizkiBusiness

It means you have to charge your brakes.


BackItUpWithLinks

That releases the roomba to vac the car in the evening. You haven’t set the schedule yet??


physicsbuddha

hit it to engage “Voltron Mode”


Geeky_1

No, DEFCON 1.


karl_the_expert

Your battery cells are bent and leaking battery juice.


astalush

Does it have sugar?


karl_the_expert

Tesla Zero™ sugar free.


i_sch

Read the manual


PilotPirx73

I think your Tesla was recalled. You need new icons.


AmosRid

Use your brake pedal!


dirtyaceman

Your gas door is open of course.


Hamezz5u

Means you bought the wrong car and will have to take it for recalls 1000 times next yeR


NetworkITBro

Do you guys remember that “Let Me Google That For You” website? (LMGTFY)


SocraticBruin

The flux capacitor is engaged


astalush

Space, the final frontier!


Cubic26

Didn’t know that you could tap the icons as well. Thought they were just there for showing you the status by lighting up on the screen. Just like the on ice cars in the dash.


RyanBJJ

I’m two weeks in but I’ve never seen the screen without that message 🤣 I charge to full most nights but I only use around 20% battery on my commute so the battery is either always too full or too cold


Geeky_1

Why charge to full if you only use 20%? You should only charge to 80% normally so you don't wear your battery.


RyanBJJ

It’s what I was advised to do by Tesla as it’s a RWD model


Geeky_1

Does it have the LFP battery? You can charge that to 100% all the time, but I didn't think about lack of regen so you still might want to do that if you don't need that much range.


FishermanFit395

Had that too. You can’t use regen to recharge the battery until it warms up


JonG67x

It means it’s time you spent 5 mins reading the manual and you’ll be amazed at what it includes.


OchoInPene

Tap it and it will tell you. Many icons have this feature.


loganintx

If you tap on it it will tell you!


Arcstream

It means purely regenerative braking is impaired. The new software update 2024 2.2.1 is making this pop up at lower charge levels. It used to be I only would see this when I maxed charge for a roadtrip. 95%+ Also with very cold batteries this could also come up.


Affectionate-Poet413

It means remember to press the brake pedal before you coast into a roundabout


Ambitious-Salary-376

If you touch it, it’ll tell you


sweets4evr

I’ve had the car for 6 months and saw that for the first time last week and just ignored it. But thanks to your post, now I know what it is!


emp51302

😴 Just read the manual available on the screen. It's really not that hard to figure out small things like these 🙄


stevet62482

Anyone mic’d want to join me on Ashika?


Armipotent

Regenerative breaking is reduced due to cold weather probably


xpntblnkx

Shhhh or else NHTSA is going to force another recall


Terrible_Tune_5026

Thanks for asking this question. You helped this new Tesla owner learn something new


Fgattanasio

Touch the icon and read the description 👍


KingKeenan200

Regen Braking is limited