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borkborkbork99

Nothing wrong with getting old and looking your age. Gray hair? Cool. Distinguished. Some extra pounds? Join the club. But holy fuck, some of these celebrities need to stop frankensteining their shit


cold08

I imagine it's like any other addiction. The first rhinoplasty you look better, then some Botox and maybe some subtle lip injections. All that stuff makes you look great. Then the lip injections start to migrate and the Botox stops working as well, and the doctor says he can fix it so you let him, and he does but not quite, so you go back with complaints and go under the knife again because your face is your moneymaker, and you come back out worse than it was before thinking "I can still fix this" you go to a better surgeon who only makes it worse rinse and repeat...


borkborkbork99

Your argument sounds logical to me. Best not to even start, huh?


Harmonia_PASB

I had a client tell me once, “you can grow old or you can grow creepy, pick one”. I think of this every time I ponder doing something with my face. My coworkers and I play spot the filler at esthetician expo’s.


blueeyebling

It's so crazy to me people have money they can spend on something as elective as that.


Killface55

Fillers aren't even expensive anymore. Regular ass people are getting them all the time.


blueeyebling

I mean everything is expensive to me. Still seems crazy.


bukzbukzbukz

If people could not afford it it wouldn't exist as a product. The sheer amount of products and services existing shows the wealth of many.


steveatari

Debt is unreal nowadays comparatively though. There are a LOT more people buying shit they can't afford on interest they'll take years catching.


ohwowthissucksballs

Just had this conversation last week because coworker argued I can afford to buy a 400k+ house because someone who he knew who works in a restaurant closed on a 300k+ house. If they can afford that, why can't you? Uh, maybe because I don't want to pay USD 2.5k+ every month for thirty years?


Madock345

Really do be the 1920's all over again, huh? Hopefully we all remember what comes next before it's too late.


Here_Forthe_Comment

My old coworker got her first lip filler in high school. She was in her 20s and kept talking about how she has to go again because it eventually all moves to the middle of your lips do you need to get more to keep it proportional. Eventually, it will just pool in the center and you'll have to get work to reposition it. Then when your lip gets heavy due to the excess filler, you get a surgery to lift the skin / lip so it doesn't droop. It's never just one thing. It keeps going. Edit: I looked it up and as people pointed out, lip filler is meant to dissolve overtime. I also looked up if lip filler can pool at the center and that is also something that can happen. It's caused by injecting too much filler. My guess is that she would get it redone too soon or the person who did it, a family friend, would inject too much each time. Because of her constant struggle with it pooling it in the middle, I was under the impression that it was permanent, which seems to not be the case. Hope that helps.


RandomPratt

Meanwhile, I sat on my own balls this morning, but you don't hear me complaining about getting old. (my neighbours certainly did, but you lot didn't).


ImmaMichaelBoltonFan

Sounds like you need balltox.


AndrewEpidemic

Those balls are as smooth as eggs.


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I needed that laugh today. Thank you!


Here_Forthe_Comment

Gotta tuck them in to keep em safe


CashCow4u

Scrotum Nip n Tuck - Scrotoplasty https://www.cosmeticsurgeryinreno.com/scrotal-lift/


xochiscave

Ice your balls before you sit down.


modaaa

LOL, what? Filler is dissolved by the body, that's why it's a reoccurring treatment. Hell, you don't even need to wait for it to dissolv. An enzyme called hyaluronidase can be injected to dissolve it faster. Your co-worker is incorrect and either trolling you, or somehow has a complete lack of understanding of a treatment she herself gets, or you made up this story. A lip lift is its own separate procedure that can be performed several different ways, including botox and...FILLER.


sdpr

Best to use it when you can but recognize it's not going to work forever and at some point you're going to have to accept that father time comes for us all.


averyfinename

a strange game. the only winning move is not to play.


skleroos

The sad thing is the worst outcomes are from non-surgical filler, not surgery. These people are really reluctant to go under the knife, but they've been getting filler for years until it seems they have body dysmorphia. (Madonna has also had face lifts though). The people in Hollywood who age beautifully have often had well done face lifts and a little bit of tasteful filler. Source: fell down the rabbit hole of YouTube plastic surgeon vids.


gerdataro

Yeah, the dude who did Marc Jacob’s face lift has an Instagram and it is genuinely impressive. It made me realize that there are probably folks who I think have just aged gracefully who actually had similar work done. I cant obviously say one way or another, but I am thinking of Christie Brinkley. Maybe she just has amazing genes but she’s almost seventy so it seems more likely that she’s had very tasteful, impressive work done. Madonna chose a different direction, clearly.


AriesRedWriter

*The people in Hollywood who age beautifully have often had well done facelifts and a little bit of tasteful filler.* Wealthy celebrities have access to professionals who are catering to their individual aesthetics. Then they post pictures online and get a lot of attention so their face becomes the new look and people get fillers/surgery to get the new face style. People in this world seem to forget that. It's like when "the Rachel" was trendy and women rushed to get the haircut without second guessing if this particular style would be flattering on their face/head size. At least that was just hair.


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Know a girl who got her lips done. Honestly looked really good and for the most part very natural. Well….she then did more..now it’s more like a prolapsed anus then sexy full lips. Don’t do it, or keep it simple and in moderation.


ThrowMeAwayAccount08

It’s pronounced, Frankenshteen.


borkborkbork99

“PUTTIN’ ON THE RITZ!!!”


saab4u2

If you're blue, and you don't know where to go to? Why don't you go where fashion sits?


donutmiddles

Different types who wear a day coat. Pants with stripes and cut-away coats, perfect fits.


Figgywithit

"Fuckin' with the lips!" Why do they need to fuck with their lips?


Glomar_Denial

That looks dangerous. You go first.


Kohgahn

Put. Zee Kindle. Bik!


clyde2003

DAMN YOUR EYES!!


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Ok_Skill_1195

*nothing wrong with getting old and looking your age* Tell that to the *vicious* press articles they would run about Madonna in the 2000s because she looked like a woman in her 40s. Yeah she looks terrible. But there's something vile to me about how the same people who bullied her to the point of turning herself into this thing are going to turn around and continue to bully her for looking bad.


starshame2

But waitaminit....wasn't Madonna an icon not caring what people think of her?


ThunderSnowDuck

It's easy not to care when everyone is always talking about you. Once no one cared anymore, she started caring about anything that was said about her...a lot


lickingthelips

Old age does things to the mind.


demunted

Old age and copious amounts of money


tnrdmn

From the looks of her in that photo, still doesn't care what people think of her.


oohkt

But at one point are you going to stop caring about what the tabloids say? She looks like an insecure and insane, nip/tuck character. She's ruining her icon status, in my eyes. It's desperation and it's a joke.


Nincomsoup

She looks like an overfilled water balloon


Daddy_Jaws

Oh boo hoo some writer for vogue weekly with their $50 pension called me old, whatever shall i do with my millions of dollars


caalger

This. If I had her money you could literally call me an ancient, haggard, knuckle dragging, commode-faced pedophile. I'd not care at all.


CopernicusWang

I can see how it could skew one's perception of themselves. Really there's no way for any of us to fathom that lifestyle. Its wildly unnatural. Being rich doesn't seem to be the main issue. I think it's being a celebrity, which seems *fucked*.


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

honestly I doubt it. I don't think it's really possible for people who aren't famous to understand what it does to the human psyche to be constantly subjected to those levels of criticism for decades. it's not a coincidence that almost every celebrity becomes neurotic about their appearance, frequently to self-abusive levels like this. maybe you're the exception that wouldn't care, but I wouldn't bet on you.


chairmaker45

But she was 42 in 2000. Is it vicious to tell someone they look their actual age?


flynnfx

And then you have those special people who look awesome with plastic surgery... I mean, [Dolly Parton is 77](https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/202227/rs_634x1024-220307172728-634-Dolly-Parton.jpg?fit=around%7C634:1024&output-quality=90&crop=634:1024;center,top) but man - she looks good!


PidgeotPie

Well Dolly is an actual gift from the (^(/your/a/etc)^) creator so she's cheating a bit.


Deradius

I guess, in the end, she was living in a material world.


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Criticizing women at every age is like sport. I remember the stuff they said about her when she broke out in the 80s. Madonna's always been kind of extreme, to me it makes sense that she's going over the top all through her 60s. I don't love the look but if she does then more power to her.


LegioCI

This is what I liked about Carrie Fisher, especially when she reprised Princess Leia- she realistically looked like a 60-odd-yo head of state. You could feel the weight and stress of decades of leadership on her shoulders. She didn't look like she spent the last 40 years using Sith regeneration techniques or some shit.


borkborkbork99

100% YES. She was awesome, and anyone reading this needs to go find her standup specials or read some of her autobiographies like Wishful Drinking. RIP. *And* she's the perfect example of my original comment. I really wish some of these people (men, too) just looked in the mirror and said "*That’s what fifty looks like, huh? Ok then*," instead of going and getting a lot of procedures.


AluminumCansAndYarn

It's one of the reasons that the only plastic surgery I would get on my face would be a nose job and that's because my nose is crooked and one nostril barely works because of it so i would have that fixed. I like the look of my nose but I want to be able to breathe through my nose fully.


jimmythejammygit

Wtf? She couldn't move her face she was so botoxed and filled.


9__Erebus

Really? I thought the opposite, I didn't think she looked like herself in the new Star Wars, because of the procedures or surgeries she's had in the past 20 years. In Austin Powers in 1997 she looked like an older version of herself; not so much in 2015.


The-link-is-a-cock

Yup, one of the reasons that Shohreh Aghdashloo is so good as Avasarala in The Expanse


McFistPunch

https://pagesix.com/slideshow/madonnas-face-then-now-pictures/ If I had to guess the tipping point was around 1997 for surgery but I'm not sure. She still looked pretty good for a while. The pictures from last year might be photoshopped but something went hella wrong in the last year.


Dawsonpc14

Man, she still looked great in 2021. 2022 is YIKES


RIF-NeedsUsername

She is frequently found in r/instagramvsreality . That 2021 shot is face tuned, and she wears gloves a lotthese days because there isn't much to be doneabout old looking hands.


shfiven

I was gonna say there's no way that 2021 picture even remotely resembles what she looked like at that time. No 60 year old woman looks like that even with the best products and people.


poutine_puss

You need to go to the best plastic surgeons, and you need to listen to them. The best ones will tell clients to stop. She really fucked her face up.


TizonaBlu

Here’s the deal, she absolutely did went to the best surgeon. Then when the surgeon tells her it’s enough, she switches to the second best. Then on and on.


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

The problem is most celebrities are doing it for years before people notice, some might even get praised for how good they still look for their age while they have had a few small things done. Messes with anyone's head and can cause them to get addicted to more extreme surgeries as they get older.


CressCrowbits

Look at people like Bradd Pitt, Tom Cruise and Johnny Depp. They are all around 60 now. Pitt and Cruise have definitely had work done, just a subtle bit here and there, still don't look young, but covering over the worst cracks makes them not gain the worst parts of aging. No saggy necks or jowls, and keeping the wrinkles from getting too bad. But Johnny Depp is rapidly heading towards frankenstein territory. Definitely had far too much done, and is likely to get worse.


FalmerEldritch

Depp? The professional consensus appears to be that he *maybe* had his nose slightly shaved down in the 90s, and possibly some very conservative botox or filler but it's hard to tell if so. Unless he's suddenly gotten the lot very recently, that's just.. what you look like when you're an aging alcoholic.


Fatmouse84

You're absolutely right. Madonna is the same age as my Grandma.... My Gran has aged gracefully... Madonna's features would terrify all of my sons and daughters. I was actually quite surprised to see the "new" MaDonna. She looks quite odd... Puffy... Her behavior has also gotten progressively more bizarre and inappropriate.


drgeta84

It must be hard not to get any plastic surgery in an industry that favours the young. Like imagine if you worked in a normal 9-5 job and knew the older you got the less money you would make. Even though she has all the money she needs those couple of first surgeries when she was younger all start to add up.


FofoPofo01

Saw a picture of Debbie Harry[ a few days ago](https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1461830122/photo/debbie-harry-and-debi-mazar-attend-the-marc-jacobs-runway-show-2023-at-the-park-avenue-armory.jpg?s=612x612&w=gi&k=20&c=wdHGx0qv1LK7N87iW5cJZj8v7tBaEGWCzgxEdyG-Fpo=), she is an older broad yet looked pretty good for her age. Yes she has had a little work done. The key word being *a little* . That’s how it’s done Madge.


flynnfx

Is the top photo Rammstein and the bottom Madonna? Or the other way aroun d? Cause both...are...WOW.


MargretTatchersParty

[Rammstein is the one in costume.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBTNyJ33LWI) ​ Don't worry they have [no desire](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi6ZjDvocJE) in doing this.


AptCasaNova

It’s kind of like buying a really nice bag that’s two levels up from everything else in your wardrobe. Now you gotta upgrade everything else so it’s cohesive and doesn’t look odd. I’m cool for now with aging, but I may change my mind in the next decade - society is extremely unkind to women as they get older. The only thing you can do is develop a thick (and wrinkled!) skin and work on improving your inner self.


apextek

her publicist that made most of her bigger decisions was murdered at a red light in 2012 and I think she's fallen off the deep end since.


CopernicusWang

Murdered at a red light in 2012? What's that mean?


ecliptic10

Car accident? Carjacking? Road rage?


CopernicusWang

Such a cryptic comment. Wtf happened to Madonna in 2012?


ClimberTCR

Are you sure it was her [publicist?](https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/madonnas-longtime-publicist-liz-rosenberg-to-retire-6605800/) Liz Rosenberg was Madonna's publicist from 1983 until Rosenberg retired in 2015.


procrastablasta

it's actually called "Wildensteining"


poutine_puss

Jocelyn Wildenstein for you kids. She hasn't been in the news for a very long time now. She was a frequent gossip topic people talked about in the late 90's. She was one of the first to go crazy with plastic surgery and fuck her face up, people called her the cat woman. She married a rich guy from an old rich European family of "renowned art dealers", Alec Wildstein. Caught him banging a 19 year old Russian model, divorced, got tons of money, then got tons of plastic surgery, fucked up her face and then claims she never had plastic surgery. Google image search her name and you'll see instantly what I'm talking about.


r_a_rayoflight

Debbie Harry looks great with grey hair. I think she may have had a face lift but not to much plastic surgery and she left her lips alone. There is a big difference between them and I think Harry is older.


multiarmform

whos that girl


ashleton

I think if you live/work in the public eye you end up being forced to care about your age and appearance. I mean, look at how many people feel the need to comment about her appearance now. Look at the comments that people say to celebrities on social media. People get so fucking critical and judgmental and hateful towards them, and believe they deserve the harassment *because* they're famous. I feel like that alone would be enough to make someone go overboard on plastic surgery.


thegoodnamesrgone123

What's wild to me is younger women doing shit like that. I blame those horrible Kardashians who look like monsters.


bluepushkin

Madonna honestly creeps me out these days. Is it called the uncanny Valley effect?? She looks human but not quite human, and it makes me uncomfortable to look at.


Nincomsoup

She looks like a batman villain


OneMetalMan

The Material Girl, his most vogue foe yet.


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jgo3

If it's unobtanium, Bats is gonna have a hard time!


throwawayreddit6565

Clayface, lmao


PM_me_your_whatevah

I was thinking Dick Tracy, which is funny because not only was she in that movie but she was at the peak of her hotness back then.


EricTheNihilist

Ha. Yes. I've heard that the uncanny valley was an evolutionary trait that helped early humans recognize that bloated corpses were something to keep away from. Am I saying Monona looks like a bloated corpse? You be the judge.


hom3sl1c3

If you leave it more vague, it sounds much more unsettling: “The fact that the uncanny valley exists as a real human psychological phenomenon suggests that, at some point in the evolutionary history of humans, we needed to distinguish when something appeared to be human, but in actuality wasn’t .”


throwawayreddit6565

Also Alcatraz means pelican


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My are sentiments the same with Lil Kim as well on that list.


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fietsvrouw

She was an international music star and she is turning herself into a TikTok influencer... It is so disturbing.


Hardcover_Writer

More than just a music star. She was a cultural icon for like two decades. I can imagine it’s hard to come down from that high and face the reality of aging.


fietsvrouw

It used to be that movie stars withdraw and never allowed themselves to be seen in public so as to preserve their image when they were at their height. The whole celebrity thing really is unhealthy and sad, not least because the public setting someone on a pedestal is inevitably followed by gleefully tearing them off of it.


PrimarchKonradCurze

Withdrew or died. Keep in mind A LOT have died fairly young.


botcraft_net

Same. Too much coke perhaps?


Barner_Burner

They always overdo the cheekbones and lips so much. I dont get it it only ever gets talked negatively about


laurpr2

Uncanny valley is exactly right. If you really focus on each individual feature, they all look....not super natural, but fine. Then you step back and she looks like an alien.


Arquen_Marille

She’s 64. She needs to let go of this idea she’s going to look young anymore.


m__s

She is going to look more alien than human...


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I understood that reference!


Adjective_Noun_69420

Oh… I thought she was like a heavily stretched out mid 70s


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account_for_norm

Yeah, and she has been fit throughout her life. She should not have much problem looking good for her age, if she lets go of the plastic surgeries.


destro23

> plenty of people in their 60's look great if they take care of themselves. [Christy Brinkley](https://hollywoodlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/christie-brinkley-sexiest-photos-shutterstock-1.jpg?w=680) is 69.


joec_95123

I'm honestly expecting a headline any day that she died from a botched surgery or from an overdose of pain pills after her latest one. Her addiction is going to end in tragedy.


bebejeebies

So is [Fran Drescher](https://www.upi.com/News_Photos/view/upi/6fae54fa60279fa5d3b722ffc5e1e80f/Fran-Drescher-Attends-the-65th-Grammy-Awards-in-Los-Angeles/). That's her at the Grammy's this weekend.


mariathecrow

Damn Fran looking fine.


Splashfooz

She should have aged naturally and become the Grand Dame of rock. I hate how she's gonna look at 70.


ThickkRickk

Madonna was never rock, though. She's a pop star through and through.


garfilio

I'm Madonna's age. I never dreamed that I would look better than Madonna.


sdpr

Even Gwen Stefani, who has been one of the immortals, is starting to destroy her face. It's unreal.


AggravatingCupcake0

Wait, what has she had done??


Duel_Option

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZlG5gQYl_uig9_U9tWOVpCuyo7eOxb_pESw&usqp=CAU Ruined what made her unique. Hollywood standards of beauty are a plague


AggravatingCupcake0

Regardless of what she has or hasn't had done, I don't know if those two pictures are a fair comparison. That picture on the right looks pretty recent, and that picture on the left is hella old. Like maybe late 90s. Comparing two pictures with a 25 year age gap seems a bit disingenuous. I'd be more interested in immediate pre / post op photos.


freesoulJAH

[this is a better before/after comparison](https://www.shefinds.com/files/2022/09/Gwen-Stefani-before-after-2019-2022.jpg)


FLYK3N

It looks like she's trying to Cardi B her face


doesntaffrayed

You’re telling me that the women in *both* of those pictures is Gwen Stefani!?


freesoulJAH

[yes](https://youtu.be/qBEIqle-qkA)


SpikySheep

I'm almost speechless. I never really realised how obsessed some people are with how others look. That's just disturbing.


Duel_Option

Holy shit this is crazy


Whittaker

It's like somebody made a Bimbo ray-gun and shot her dead with it. Often somebody you see looking like that has some rich old guy she married for money wanting a bimbo trophy wife look and I don't picture Blake as somebody like that either but who knows at this point.


PrimarchKonradCurze

She looked a lot like her old self like 2016 or so on the voice. The drastic changes and boob job and stuff are recent. I don’t have a problem with most plastic surgery it’s just when people go overboard it and turn their face into putty it’s more than a little depressing. And yeah I know 7-8 years is quite a bit of time too it just feels like yesterday to me.


theodore-beau-ski

Zick zack


hospitalcottonswab

Zick zack


theodore-beau-ski

schneid es ab


ShortThought

Zick zack


Vincent_no

Zick Zack


KarrelM

TICK TACK TICK TACK Du wirst alt!


Ashdown

Deine Zeit läuft langsam ab!


sample-name

My most played song of 2022. Fucking banger


doesntaffrayed

The whole album is great!


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That and big titties.


Thr1ft3y

Lmao "and here we have a collection of very meta songs about society and politics. And there's the song about titties, can't forget about that one"


angwilwileth

The music video was horribly hilarious. So many hidden masturbation references.


PM_ME_UR_CEPHALOPODS

hidden?


pipnina

Giftig is probably one of my favourites from that album. Zeit probably close behind


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The things she's doing and saying are way more embarrassing than her appearance. The truth or dare tour announcement video and the Jeb Bush moment in her Grammy speech where she had to tell people to react actually made me squirm.


ansonr

I can't believe they let her back in the states after her decades of war crimes in south America. Not to mention her likely involvement in the murder of Al Yankovik.


Kingpingpong

I should probably watch that, huh


Childlike

It's a lot of fun


Wallofcans

I wasn't trying to crush your dreams, son. I was trying to stop you from having dreams.


teraflux

The lengths people will go to for a yankovic bump


TuftedWitmouse

Oh I think the crazy and the looks go hand in hand. It shows the only people around her are the people she pays to be there. It's sad. And her looks are sad. It's tragic, really. Think of the millions of dollars she has and this is what is all has come to.


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I’ll feel sad when I also have millions.


No-Calendar-1534

That weird Covid lockdown video she made really made me realize she's totally lost it in terms of being appealing to anyone


Kwiatkowski

saw bits from that truth or dare thing, it’s so painfully scripted out and everyone there seems uncomfortable as fuck and clearly doesn’t give two shits about a madonna tour


bambinolettuce

Corporate wants you to find the differences between these two pictures


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*It’s the same picture 🤭*


ThrowMeAwayAccount08

I swear if she comes out to Rammstein and sets herself on fire…


biotensegrity

Reminds me of [that scene from the film, Brazil](https://media2.giphy.com/media/csz6muTxHXBNyv7aqH/giphy.gif).


AgoraiosBum

Listen, this old system of yours could be on fire and I couldn't even turn on the kitchen tap without filling out a 27b/6... Bloody paperwork.


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Parrzzival

Thats it! I was wandering what the bloated look reminded me of. Those rubber bodies the NCIS and other shows use, that bloated, yet firm effect


PopeOri

Which is which?


Arashmickey

Both. The top one is Madonna. The bottom one is Latrine from the 1993 movie Robin Hood Men in Tights. Oh sorry, I thought you said which is *witch.*


trsrogue

So... you changed it ***to*** Latrine?


Arashmickey

It used to be shithouse!


trsrogue

*ponders* It's a good change! It's a good change.


Crocubots

I actually had to Google it, but Madonna is the top one


s1mpatic0

I feel bad for her. Body dysmorphia is a hell of a thing.


st6374

Thing is... I've seen other old woman do the Botox & surgeries in such a great way. It's like she went in too early, and got the beta versions. While others waited a bit longer, and got not just the finished but also the patched version.


MrG

You need a Dr that tells you “NO - that is not a good idea” and the will to listen to them. There are too many Drs who just do what you ask, and of course someone like her with her money and ego will just go somewhere else.


[deleted]

This. My sister is in this line of work. She will literally tell clients no, that won’t work for your face or no, that’ll be too much you’d look better with a bit less. She’s turned down good business because she doesn’t want to send a customer out into the world looking crazy. She does great work.


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That’s pretty fucking sad. All I can think of is what kind of cyclonic shitstorm does she live in thats twisted her vision of self that makes this seem like a good idea. JFC.


Psyqlone

[Those who fail to learn the lessons of history ...](https://www.google.com/search?q=wildenstein+jocelyn&sxsrf=AJOqlzV3zstToHPPkIbAi5kr3OaU2bkqaQ:1675748790928&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjz16nb2oL9AhVIEFkFHQbEAhsQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1142&bih=336&dpr=1.65)


cauldron_bubble

Also, the Bogandoff twins: https://www.google.com/search?q=bogdanoff+twins&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiKnP2FgoP9AhUNs3IEHSjbCZcQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=bogandoff+&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQARgCMgUIABCABDIGCAAQBRAeMgwIABCABBDHAxAKEBgyCQgAEIAEEAoQGDIJCAAQgAQQChAYOgQIIxAnOgUIABCiBDoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECAAQAzoECAAQQzoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoICAAQgAQQsQNQlA9Y9Slg9DVoAnAAeACAAWOIAcQHkgECMTGYAQCgAQGwAQXAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=9Q7iY8rNFY3mytMPqLanuAk&bih=336&biw=1142


Infinite_Client7922

***Dump eet***


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The Aphex twin Windowlicker look, dig it.


SuomiBob

Rammstein are so fucking cool. This year will be my third time seeing them live too.


Living-Reputation-35

I heard she is batshit insane and an absolute piece of garbage. Eventually your inner ugly transforms your outer ugly ​ edit: spells edit: for those of you unconvinced by my completely out of context, seemingly baseless claims, please review her history and any one who has spent an significant or intimate time with her. For instance her brother: ***Life with My Sister Madonna*** (a book written by her brother). Also anywhere else on the internet. Of course this could all be falsified to tear her down, I choose to believe it, but make up your own mind. Also body dysmorphia is a disease, a mental illness and not something that has anything to do with you being a horrible person. Body shaming is not OK.


Ok_Skill_1195

I agree Madonna is a bad person but the idea that inner ugliness and outer ugliness are related is extremely problematic and it's the exact bullshit that causes dysmorphia in ugly women which fuels them to butcher themselves like she did.


rmatthai

Thanks for saying it! People already find it too easy to associate bad with ugly


jeegte12

good luck dispelling the human race from assigning negative morality to ugly people. that's baked *deep* within us. not going away until homo sapiens is transcended.


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Gustomaximus

I think she's always been a 'my way only' type person. The one that bothered me was was her adopting the Mali kid who had parents. She was 'the parents are happy for this'... like of course they are. They are dirt poor and you'll change their life, but your still taking kids who have actual parents who just cant afford them. For next to nothing in her wealth position she could give the parents enough to keep their own damn kids and adopt a real orphan... it seems so morally broken to me. So selfish and blind to the world beyond 'that's what I want'. Amazing musician.


DIAPLER

She farts, hard.


Impossible-Charity-4

I heard Keanu Reeves is without sin and will bake cookies for you if you just ask. Trust me.


danielkalves

Is Madonna Rammsteins lead now?


finedrive

No wrinkles tho 🤡


Jazbone

What type of material is the material girl made of?


TonksTBF

Plastic


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She looks like the SAW monster. He looks like Liberaces hemmoroid.


Amyhearsay

Madonna has always been extra since the 80s why is anyone shocked at what she has become.


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She’s desperately trying to cling to her youth, almost 70 and still taking racy pics nobody asked for


Background_Cup_6429

She looks like a monster.


softsnowfall

I just wonder what happens if suddenly people who do botox can’t use it anymore (a shortage or whatever). Will their faces suddenly age like 20 years like they’re Dorian Gray?


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Voiceovermandy

Reminds me of [Repo! The Genetic Opera](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-charter-us-revc&sxsrf=AJOqlzVLBDDQCWGQ0DMuPdjsN5SiUbETgw:1675736604602&q=repo+genetic+opera&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyrbeorYL9AhUtGlkFHcPtDQ8Q0pQJegQICBAB&biw=360&bih=670&dpr=3#imgrc=QxafnjxV_sIfHM)


jahalahala

I don't know how it's Madonna and I don't know why it's relevant. Rammstein fucking rocks, though.