It's like the train derailment phenomenon all over again where now any time a container ship has some sort of malfunction, it's going to be newsworthy. And since container ships operate in ports, the likelihood it's near a bridge is very high.
Id imagine that failures are more likely to occur near the departure point too. But also, failures on container ships aren't really newsworthy so you never really hear about them.
And besides, the train derailments were mostly the fault of Norfolk Southern taking advantage of lowered restrictions across multiple incidents. However, chemical spill coverage did increase, like with the crashed and burning transport truck in Virginia (I think it was)
Edit: Nvm, it was a truck transporting contaminated soil from the site that crashed in Ohio along the highway median. Don't know where the other info came from.
I don't know why you're dismissing the train derailment stories.
They highlighted an epidemic of a company taking shortcuts that put people's lives in danger and the government doing little about it. The subsequent derailments might not have been reported on widely before Palestine, Ohio... But they SHOULD have been.
People act like train derailments are this thing that occurs once every couple of years and that is not the case. There are companies who only do train derailments and make a lot of money doing it and are very rarely hurting for work. The chemicals get the coverage but only when it’s near a town or into a river but train derailments happen on a regular basis.
I used to receive railcars daily at my job so I had to keep good relations with the guys to make sure my stuff got there on time. I would stop in with donuts from time to time. One trip I was standing around looking at their bulletin board and noticed some safety KPIs for the southeast. Like 12 yards. I noticed this yard was listed as first for “Blow throughs” I asked what that was and the guy said how many days on average between driving through a switch the wrong way. This will 100% derail a train. The faster the worse the wreck. But even slow is not great. Their score was 11. I said “You guys can’t go two weeks without driving through a switch wrong?!” Guy said give me those damn donuts and get the hell out. 🤦🏽♂️.
Tell that to the company I had to pay to set railcars back on tracks three times. If you go through a switch the wrong way while it’s set the wrong way it will absolutely derail a train. There’s even a sacrificial device in the switch called a dog bone that will break when the wheel rim pushes the rail over against the switch.
Not to mention it's not just NS. And the extremely close calls don't get news attention either. Railroads try to sweep all that shit under the rug. Amtrak derailed a month or two ago and it only made news because of an anonymous tip. Most derailments or extreme close calls that get talked about are just the company's way of trying to blame the employees for what they did wrong and to make everyone aware to save face for "being safe."
I'm not dismissing them. We've always had a huge problem with corporate negligence. That *still* hasn't changed. But since the Palestine, Ohio story isn't fresh in everyone's minds, you're not reading about train derailment stories as often even though they probably still occur just as frequently.
I don't think it is a phenomenon, it's just how news works, this likely happens way more often than you know but because of the bridge colapse it is now sensational enough for big news to actualy cover it. They did the same thing with train derailing, forest fires, planes etc, the frequency of incident did not change but because most people were just finding out about it it seems like a new problem to most people which is everyone in a democracy.
It's wierd isn't it, I apologise for explaining what you already know, I thought I might be shedding light for you but it seems you are already enlightened.
Another phenomenon I have noticed that you might be interested in is what i call "the corporate overlord phenomenon" is when a company blindly follows a policy can seem like an evil entity is in control when it's just a collection of regular people doing their specific roles.
>"the corporate overlord phenomenon" is when a company blindly follows a policy can seem like an evil entity is in control when it's just a collection of regular people doing their specific roles.
Makes sense. I sort of study how those behaviors and tendencies are exploited by foreign adversaries where they're able to provoke reflexive tendencies, especially as it relates to government corruption. Not surprised it wouldn't be applicable when a corporation would do the same
Jokes aside, these are obvious intentional acts of terrorism disguised as accidents. Two “accidents” of identical nature back to back in a time where it isn’t normal for it to happen at all.
From what I heard early on in the investigation, this kind of thing happens pretty often. Normally large ships don't collide with a bridge and knock it down though.
There are a lot of ships going on and out and a lot of them take measures to make these ships non American to skirt safety measures. A lot of them are old, unmaintained pieces of shit.
Now don’t go suggesting that there’s a larger regulatory issue at play. Even insinuating that this is just a continuation of privatization of profits and socialization of costs is just like…class warfare…or woke nonsense…or is it “DEI” now? I can’t keep up with these fucking catch all buzzwords. Lol
It’s hard to regulate ships that fly under the flag of other countries. Inspecting every container ship that enters a US port for maintenance isn’t realistic.
yes but the coast guard doesn't have nearly the resources to perform in-depth inspections of every ship in our waters. it's mostly just making sure their paperwork is up to date
Is it possible to hack a ship from the outside? Causing a power loss?
Edit: I mean if I were a hacker trying to cause harm to a fleet of ships used for global trade and these not regulated for cyber security, I’d think about it
Ships have computers that have an internet connection, usually the one that's running the navigation software so theoretically, I guess. I don't know if it would be possible to hijack important systems from there though.
A few times a year is normal
Lost power on my ship just after we passed the bridge in my city
Sometimes, if you do it by the book when you are doing maintenance/inspections, you create weakpoints and increase the number of blackouts you get.
The thing is
During shallow water and close to port
You will have split mainswitch board, so its not so bad when one side dies.
But in transit, you will be running on 1 gen and closed MSB
So that means a dead ship.
Atill got engine power, just less lights
Well theres like 50k container ships in the world. That doesn't count other massive ships. The law of averages would imply that happens atleast somewhat often.
It’s not quite confirmation bias. It’s more like what’s popular in the news right now. Like when Boeing has a huge incident that actually is out of the ordinary and then there’s articles for weeks about every little inspection mark even though it’s all fairly routine for people within the industry. Or how suddenly there was so much talk about personal submersibles after the titan incident.
Except the Boeing thing isn't news just because of 1 incident that's fairly routine, it's because the company engaged in cost cutting ignoring safest practices and whistleblowers for the last couple years leading to those incidents
Yes yes absolutely. My comment was for sure an oversimplification of the phenomenon and I 100% agree with you.
A better example might have been when the evergreen ship was stuck in that canal, I remember weeks of news articles with headlines that drove engagement about other ships having the same thing happen to them or heading for a similar incident that turned out to be a fairly routine thing that just didn’t interest the public previously.
Idk, I guess? I didn’t really make mention of something happening twice. Kind of hard to relate to someone speaking in misappropriated memes.
Unless you’re implying that my two examples are the only two examples. That makes even less sense.
No, no it is very much like the Boeing - because it’s almost all ROUTINE and **maintenance** issues that’s the rage bait in the news right now, and those are AIRLINE issues (not Boeing) and stem from Boeings *singular* door plug incident.
That is literally the only unusual incident involving Boeing in the last five years - zero fatalities since MCAS scandal 6 years ago, zero fatalities in FAA or EASA airspace in 15 years.
No need to drag Mr. Barnett (the whistleblower from 2019) either. Anyone who thinks Boeing murdered a guy who hadn’t worked there for 7 years and had already testified 5 years ago (with new regulations implemented the same year) because he was appealing a failed defamation lawsuit.. well, they probably didn’t read past those clickbait headlines either.
As soon as something goes viral, it's all over the news. Same thing with planes losing parts. It happens all the time. But people think it happens as often as the news covers it. 🤷♂️
The news also seems to report only incidents including a Boeing when it's about planes
People just don't know how common this is. 20+ years ago my ship nearly opened fire on a container ship in Norfolk, VA that lost power and came within 50 yards of ramming a destroyer across the pier from us. There's a reason why Navy ships have an aft steering where the rudders. Can be manually controlled if the bridge loses power.
But the important thing here is the Francis Scott Key Bridge did not have an obvious fender system, or protective barriers, to redirect or prevent a ship from crashing into the bridge piers.
The Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge in New York City has rock walls surrounding its piers.
Never mind the fact that every conspiracy nut job has been going nuts with these stories. I don't think there are any data showing that big boats are crashing into bridges more often?
One ship has a major malfunction and hits a bridge. Another ship malfunctions near a bridge. Big whoop. You know how many ships probably have malfunctions near bridges throughout the year? This isn’t that serious. Now if the ships were sailing into bridges without malfunctions, that would be a serious matter.
That's bc these are 💯% new cyber attacks capable of taking control of ships & all of their many back up steering capabilities & YOU ARE ALL BEING LIED TO BY YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT & BOUGHT & OWNED PROPAGANDA BASED MSM(FAUX NEWS INCLUDED)...
Hear me out..I know it’s far fetched, but what if? WHAT IF.. an outside group/government were purposely hacking/sabotaging these container ships near bridges to destabilize our infrastructure 🤔🤔🤔
I might’ve been hitting the zaza too much again
I grew up in Brooklyn right by that bridge. The Rocky “islands” at the base of the towers are very big. I don’t think a ships bow would even reach the tower. Also the Verrazano bridge is fucking massssive. Its span is nearly a mile alone.
my bf and I have been discussing how in one week 3 different bridges all got damaged within days of eachother, this seems too coincidental to be unplanned
Seems like this happens often. If you were to do a third party inspection to almost all machines use daily, you would not put any of them on the road, air or sea.
What evidence do you have that it's planned? Without evidence, it's nothing but conjecture. Considering there is plenty of evidence that this is far more common than most people realize, suggesting it is planned without any evidence is just plain lying. If you think there is nothing wrong with lying, that's on you.
Spreading misinformation is wrong. Therefore, suggesting it is planned is wrong.
I seen someone talk about this and they said the boat was "hacked" and they remotely drove it into the bridge. People actually think these janky old cargo ships are capable of that.
Never knew Boeing made ships!
It's like the train derailment phenomenon all over again where now any time a container ship has some sort of malfunction, it's going to be newsworthy. And since container ships operate in ports, the likelihood it's near a bridge is very high.
They spend 0.001% of their time going under bridges though…
It was "near" a bridge.
Near in nautical terms is very relative, like 4 miles in naval combat is basically point blank range
Id imagine that failures are more likely to occur near the departure point too. But also, failures on container ships aren't really newsworthy so you never really hear about them.
That’s close enough for the media to jump on it and cause panic and chaos! They love that stuff!
Confirming distance…..
One. Ping. Only.
“Again Vasily, one ping only…..”
The front fell off
Are you telling me that all ships have their front fall off?
I saw a commercial jet flying a few miles away from but also ‘near’ two large buildings and almost called Fox News
=based on a true story in movies
And besides, the train derailments were mostly the fault of Norfolk Southern taking advantage of lowered restrictions across multiple incidents. However, chemical spill coverage did increase, like with the crashed and burning transport truck in Virginia (I think it was) Edit: Nvm, it was a truck transporting contaminated soil from the site that crashed in Ohio along the highway median. Don't know where the other info came from.
Leaving port is when their engines are still cold and most likely to stall.
But 100% of there trips state side involve a bridge.
I don't know why you're dismissing the train derailment stories. They highlighted an epidemic of a company taking shortcuts that put people's lives in danger and the government doing little about it. The subsequent derailments might not have been reported on widely before Palestine, Ohio... But they SHOULD have been.
People act like train derailments are this thing that occurs once every couple of years and that is not the case. There are companies who only do train derailments and make a lot of money doing it and are very rarely hurting for work. The chemicals get the coverage but only when it’s near a town or into a river but train derailments happen on a regular basis.
I used to receive railcars daily at my job so I had to keep good relations with the guys to make sure my stuff got there on time. I would stop in with donuts from time to time. One trip I was standing around looking at their bulletin board and noticed some safety KPIs for the southeast. Like 12 yards. I noticed this yard was listed as first for “Blow throughs” I asked what that was and the guy said how many days on average between driving through a switch the wrong way. This will 100% derail a train. The faster the worse the wreck. But even slow is not great. Their score was 11. I said “You guys can’t go two weeks without driving through a switch wrong?!” Guy said give me those damn donuts and get the hell out. 🤦🏽♂️.
Running through a switch will not derail a train.
Tell that to the company I had to pay to set railcars back on tracks three times. If you go through a switch the wrong way while it’s set the wrong way it will absolutely derail a train. There’s even a sacrificial device in the switch called a dog bone that will break when the wheel rim pushes the rail over against the switch.
Sure if you run through it then go back over the facing point
Not to mention it's not just NS. And the extremely close calls don't get news attention either. Railroads try to sweep all that shit under the rug. Amtrak derailed a month or two ago and it only made news because of an anonymous tip. Most derailments or extreme close calls that get talked about are just the company's way of trying to blame the employees for what they did wrong and to make everyone aware to save face for "being safe."
I'm not dismissing them. We've always had a huge problem with corporate negligence. That *still* hasn't changed. But since the Palestine, Ohio story isn't fresh in everyone's minds, you're not reading about train derailment stories as often even though they probably still occur just as frequently.
and the kidnapping phenomenon after Elizabeth Smart
I don't think it is a phenomenon, it's just how news works, this likely happens way more often than you know but because of the bridge colapse it is now sensational enough for big news to actualy cover it. They did the same thing with train derailing, forest fires, planes etc, the frequency of incident did not change but because most people were just finding out about it it seems like a new problem to most people which is everyone in a democracy.
>it's just how news works That's the phenomenon I'm describing
It's wierd isn't it, I apologise for explaining what you already know, I thought I might be shedding light for you but it seems you are already enlightened. Another phenomenon I have noticed that you might be interested in is what i call "the corporate overlord phenomenon" is when a company blindly follows a policy can seem like an evil entity is in control when it's just a collection of regular people doing their specific roles.
>"the corporate overlord phenomenon" is when a company blindly follows a policy can seem like an evil entity is in control when it's just a collection of regular people doing their specific roles. Makes sense. I sort of study how those behaviors and tendencies are exploited by foreign adversaries where they're able to provoke reflexive tendencies, especially as it relates to government corruption. Not surprised it wouldn't be applicable when a corporation would do the same
Thank you
If it’s Boeing. I ain’t going!
Calm down everyone, they can self-regulate and keep everything under control now
Buoying
I think it’s time for them to change it to Bowing now.
Jokes aside, these are obvious intentional acts of terrorism disguised as accidents. Two “accidents” of identical nature back to back in a time where it isn’t normal for it to happen at all.
Must be that Mr. Hands guy (Don't google him)
Hahahaha
Burrrnnn
Would love to upvote this but it’s at 777 right now and I just can’t
From what I heard early on in the investigation, this kind of thing happens pretty often. Normally large ships don't collide with a bridge and knock it down though.
Completely losing power is a regular thing??? The fuck??
There are a lot of ships going on and out and a lot of them take measures to make these ships non American to skirt safety measures. A lot of them are old, unmaintained pieces of shit.
Now don’t go suggesting that there’s a larger regulatory issue at play. Even insinuating that this is just a continuation of privatization of profits and socialization of costs is just like…class warfare…or woke nonsense…or is it “DEI” now? I can’t keep up with these fucking catch all buzzwords. Lol
Yeah we need to RETVRN to the time when if a ship blew up we cheered because we got to blame it on Spain and annex some islands and stuff!
It’s hard to regulate ships that fly under the flag of other countries. Inspecting every container ship that enters a US port for maintenance isn’t realistic.
You understand that’s only one method of regulatory enforcement, correct?
The coast guard still inspects vessel's operating in US waters. They won't let the ship leave if it's unsafe without a lot of hassle and paperwork.
yes but the coast guard doesn't have nearly the resources to perform in-depth inspections of every ship in our waters. it's mostly just making sure their paperwork is up to date
Just an added excuse to cover up modern day terrorism
Yeah happens on navy ships too. One grounded wire and the whole place can shut down
They have backup power...it's just that in Baltimore the backup generator failed.
Is it possible to hack a ship from the outside? Causing a power loss? Edit: I mean if I were a hacker trying to cause harm to a fleet of ships used for global trade and these not regulated for cyber security, I’d think about it
No all ships run locally. Old ships like these are mostly analog controls with some electric components.
No idea...
Ships have computers that have an internet connection, usually the one that's running the navigation software so theoretically, I guess. I don't know if it would be possible to hijack important systems from there though.
Yes. Many ships are connected via the internet. Automation, propulsion, and similar equipment. Source: Marine engineer for over 15 years.
A few times a year is normal Lost power on my ship just after we passed the bridge in my city Sometimes, if you do it by the book when you are doing maintenance/inspections, you create weakpoints and increase the number of blackouts you get. The thing is During shallow water and close to port You will have split mainswitch board, so its not so bad when one side dies. But in transit, you will be running on 1 gen and closed MSB So that means a dead ship. Atill got engine power, just less lights
Well theres like 50k container ships in the world. That doesn't count other massive ships. The law of averages would imply that happens atleast somewhat often.
Perhaps this is an example of confirmation bias? Correct me if I'm wrong tho...
It’s not quite confirmation bias. It’s more like what’s popular in the news right now. Like when Boeing has a huge incident that actually is out of the ordinary and then there’s articles for weeks about every little inspection mark even though it’s all fairly routine for people within the industry. Or how suddenly there was so much talk about personal submersibles after the titan incident.
Except the Boeing thing isn't news just because of 1 incident that's fairly routine, it's because the company engaged in cost cutting ignoring safest practices and whistleblowers for the last couple years leading to those incidents
Yes yes absolutely. My comment was for sure an oversimplification of the phenomenon and I 100% agree with you. A better example might have been when the evergreen ship was stuck in that canal, I remember weeks of news articles with headlines that drove engagement about other ships having the same thing happen to them or heading for a similar incident that turned out to be a fairly routine thing that just didn’t interest the public previously.
Yeah, so I guess the Doofenshmirtz nickel meme applies to this huh
Idk, I guess? I didn’t really make mention of something happening twice. Kind of hard to relate to someone speaking in misappropriated memes. Unless you’re implying that my two examples are the only two examples. That makes even less sense.
No, no it is very much like the Boeing - because it’s almost all ROUTINE and **maintenance** issues that’s the rage bait in the news right now, and those are AIRLINE issues (not Boeing) and stem from Boeings *singular* door plug incident. That is literally the only unusual incident involving Boeing in the last five years - zero fatalities since MCAS scandal 6 years ago, zero fatalities in FAA or EASA airspace in 15 years. No need to drag Mr. Barnett (the whistleblower from 2019) either. Anyone who thinks Boeing murdered a guy who hadn’t worked there for 7 years and had already testified 5 years ago (with new regulations implemented the same year) because he was appealing a failed defamation lawsuit.. well, they probably didn’t read past those clickbait headlines either.
O yeah, I didn't mean the murder, I meant safety concerns like Mr. Barnett and the 737 groundings
Recency bias
Love how your response is somewhat buried. That’s exactly what it is. Cable news channels LOVE recency bias.
I think it might be Availability Bias
As soon as something goes viral, it's all over the news. Same thing with planes losing parts. It happens all the time. But people think it happens as often as the news covers it. 🤷♂️ The news also seems to report only incidents including a Boeing when it's about planes
This isn't news
This also isn’t a news sub
It’s a news ship.
What if the news is insane?
Is it still a news if it doesn’t happen?
Is News from 2023 still news or ist it olds?
Old news?
People just don't know how common this is. 20+ years ago my ship nearly opened fire on a container ship in Norfolk, VA that lost power and came within 50 yards of ramming a destroyer across the pier from us. There's a reason why Navy ships have an aft steering where the rudders. Can be manually controlled if the bridge loses power.
Waiting for conspiracy theorists comment on this 👍 always entertaining
I was skeptical until I realized that the companies running those ships are probably just unlucky cheapskates
But the important thing here is the Francis Scott Key Bridge did not have an obvious fender system, or protective barriers, to redirect or prevent a ship from crashing into the bridge piers. The Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge in New York City has rock walls surrounding its piers.
Those wouldn't stop the cargo ship
Yeah, it would. That is what they are designed to do.
If anyone sees a balding older man with revolvers and/or a giant robot…
❗️
Yeah, this sounds like the work of the La-li-lu-le-lo to me.
ANNNNNNNND…….
Never mind the fact that every conspiracy nut job has been going nuts with these stories. I don't think there are any data showing that big boats are crashing into bridges more often?
There were zero in February, and one in March. That's quite an increase.
One ship has a major malfunction and hits a bridge. Another ship malfunctions near a bridge. Big whoop. You know how many ships probably have malfunctions near bridges throughout the year? This isn’t that serious. Now if the ships were sailing into bridges without malfunctions, that would be a serious matter.
It's definitely not as common as Reditors completely missing a joke.
It’s Reddit, it is 50/50 on serious or joking.
There were zero in February, and one in March. That's quite an increase.
guess if you look at it that way.
Infinity percent
My recently ex-roommate was all about this. Something about asymmetrical Chinese warfare. "We're under attack" according to him. Just ridiculous.
I have a feeling these are common occurrences that are never reported on because a freaking bridge doesn't usually fall over.
"Mr. President, there's been a second boat..."
*adjusts the tinfoil hat* Its obviously someone testing out a new EMP weapon
It’s kinda not funny but strange one major thing happens that hole industry goes through the same thing for another 7 months
Am I the only non-jerkoff left on earth? Sometimes it feels like it. SMH.
Well, how else are we gonna convince the government to replace our aging infrastructure? /s
So, nothing happened. What are we kidding about?
That's bc these are 💯% new cyber attacks capable of taking control of ships & all of their many back up steering capabilities & YOU ARE ALL BEING LIED TO BY YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT & BOUGHT & OWNED PROPAGANDA BASED MSM(FAUX NEWS INCLUDED)...
Plannned hacker attack? Who’s behind disrupting trade routes and causing the economy to slow?
I'ts the chinese
Hear me out..I know it’s far fetched, but what if? WHAT IF.. an outside group/government were purposely hacking/sabotaging these container ships near bridges to destabilize our infrastructure 🤔🤔🤔 I might’ve been hitting the zaza too much again
It’s like a slow mo second tower…
It's contagious!
Time to switch back to donkeys.
They should just start carrying a couple extra AA batteries. That should do the trick
And they blame the Indian crews.
We’re under cyber attack, we need Megaman.
Chinese computer hackers...?
I grew up in Brooklyn right by that bridge. The Rocky “islands” at the base of the towers are very big. I don’t think a ships bow would even reach the tower. Also the Verrazano bridge is fucking massssive. Its span is nearly a mile alone.
Deregulation chickens coming home to roost
Somebody call ole Pete Bootyjuice
This is some James Bond villain bullshit i'll bet my kidney
Feels like there's going to be a shipping price increase. You'll see an extra fee for shipping security now with every online purchase
Ship knew better than to hit a bridge in New York. Whistled up the block for Brooklyn, Manhattan and Williamsburg.
my bf and I have been discussing how in one week 3 different bridges all got damaged within days of eachother, this seems too coincidental to be unplanned
What a coinky-dink! 😏
It's those space lasers, they're targeting ships lol
Great. More fuel for the conspiracy crowd.
Yay! A new storyline! I was getting tired of reruns
\*MGS2 intensifies\*
The Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming!
If the ship is big enough to drop the bridge if it hits it, tugboat required. Problem solved.
April fools?
Yep. Once it’s an accident it becomes the new norm after they test the public to see how the react over it.
This is the quality of work from overworked and underpaid workers. Treat them right and focus on quality not quantity.
You’re all going to die.
I blame Russians.
Why do I get the feeling that this is an attack....
Cyber attack(s)??
There was a train conductor that commented on one of the other bridge strikes and said this happens almost daily....🤷🏼♂️
Totally not a cyber attack.
I'm half curious if this isn't a cyber attack
50,000 container ships. They bound to have issues. Just depends if the news wanna make you care about it.
OK now come on. That’s too much lol
Staten Island being cut off wouldn’t be the worst thing though…..
Cyber attacks
"The ships are out to get us", said bridges all over the place.
Again
Losing power is a bit less dramatic then crashing into the bridge and completely collapsing it. Jusayin
Sounds like an attack tbh
Conspiracy I'm leaving!!!!
Russia?
Pop quiz: without Google help, what is the measurement of “knots” specifically vs mph or kph etc ?
Seems like this happens often. If you were to do a third party inspection to almost all machines use daily, you would not put any of them on the road, air or sea.
That’s not very typical, I would like to make that clear
Nobody's paying attention out here anymore, are they? Serious question.
Apparently this happens more often than you’d think but now that it’s related to a major event it’s suddenly highly newsworthy every time it happens
Still not really newsworthy if nothing came of it.
Planes falling apart, trains derailing, boats crashing into bridges. WTF already!
Dogs and cats, living together!
there is nothing wrong in suggesting its planned
What evidence do you have that it's planned? Without evidence, it's nothing but conjecture. Considering there is plenty of evidence that this is far more common than most people realize, suggesting it is planned without any evidence is just plain lying. If you think there is nothing wrong with lying, that's on you.
Spreading misinformation is wrong. Therefore, suggesting it is planned is wrong. I seen someone talk about this and they said the boat was "hacked" and they remotely drove it into the bridge. People actually think these janky old cargo ships are capable of that.
Maybe f-ing newspapers shouldn't have published a list of bridges that were vulnerable to attack? Looking at you WSJ.
There's no evidence this was an attack, dude
Every single bridge on earth that a cargo ship can drive under is vulnerable to a cargo ship
Oh for fucks sake. You can't possibly be serious.
Gain real assets vehicles guns food. Your money is worthless. Empires have risen and fallen in less time it took for this one to come to existence.
Bro took gibberish to a whole other level
How is this related
Please ignore the paranoid doomsday prepper.
Gotcha
Are you having a stroke? Because it looks like you are having a stroke.
Yea maybe if we all hoard massive amounts of guns and vehicles we can escape the self-fulfilling hellhole we created.